TL Mafia L - Page 153

Cyber_Cheese

Australia3615 Posts

January 20 2012 23:03 GMT

#3041

I feel like it's been a bit overblown that the bomb is in a bad place due to BM hating on town.
BM said he missed his actions night 2, on night 1 protractinium hadn't been proven to have found any scum, and he clearly didn't become mayor so he can't have been the most townie candidate.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

January 20 2012 23:05 GMT

#3042

On January 21 2012 07:56 blahz0r wrote:

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On January 21 2012 07:07 Foolishness wrote:

On January 21 2012 07:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On January 21 2012 06:51 p4NDemik wrote:
Seriously these three are beyond reason right now. This is super fucking fishy.

Ok ok ok everyone hold your horses. We'd all like to hear a coherent case out of the triumvirate. However let's not let things get blown out of porportion. Yes, we'd all like them just to spell it out, yes we are frustrated at their collective inability to explain wtf is going on. However now is not the time for veiled attacks on their credibility. This is the kinda thing I called out opz (still scum btw) for. We can be frustrated but it's not necessary to start spreading doubt yet. If they can't get their shit together by the lynch and the lynch falls apart and one or two townies die then we can start calling for some heat. Until then let's give them an oppertunity to respond to our requests. I think we (and by we I once again mean the recently active people) have made it clear what we need to hear. Let's not go overboard and start heaving accusations till we've heard their responses.

I think we're all blowing this out of proportion and thinking too hard about this.

Why are we saying let's not kill BM? Well what if he is a hatter and telling the truth? We not only killed a townie but lost our best scumhunter as well.

Do I think it's likely BM is telling the truth? No, but it's a possibility. Is town in a desperate situation where we need to take chances? No

If BM is mafia, then mafia will not kill Incog cause they want to keep BM from getting lynched. That's okay cause Incog can stay around to find the rest of the mafia team. If the mafia do decide to kill Incog, then we can go straight ahead and kill BM, and I will not ask questions lol

This isn't supposed to be complicated. We don't need to be taking chances at this point so why bother?

Incog and BC have both been suspicious of sandroba, and sandroba has yet to contribute all game so we have decided to go with that. Do I think there are better lynches than sandroba? Yes. But that's okay because sandroba fits the theme. I'm not going to sit and argue for better targets, it's important that we are all on the same page. Incog and BC know who I think is mafia, and that will be the starting point for tomorrow's lynch.

What chances? If he was a mad hatter, why would he waste putting a bomb on someone who has and still is actively finding mafia. His bombs would be better used on these other mafia targets that you have all believed to be mafia.

To me he went from "oh I don't have much time and effort so whatevers" to "oh I'm gonna kill our scum hunter if you lynch me lols". WTF is this ?

I'm voting Bill Murray, this looks like bullshit to me.

BM claims a story as following:

a) he thought protact was scum n1. Tbh, protact wasn't as established as he is now with his scum finds. in my previous post you'll find a list that states that.

b) he forgot to submit any n2 actions which is why there is no second bomb and he didn't remove his first.

I don't know if I should believe that, but it isn't completely unbelievable. The risk is really high. If he sticks to his story, he'll remove the bomb n3 and place somewhere better. Then, town can decide again on d4 if we want that lynch.

If he doesn't remove the bomb, well, he's lynched.

so it just makes sense to postpone his lynch even though he might be buying time. risk vs reward + scenario analysis.

jaj22

United Kingdom1376 Posts

January 20 2012 23:05 GMT

#3043

Ugh, long day. On the plus side, I now have loads of people that I want to kill:

GGQ: Still alive. Still dodging modkills.

Kingjames01: Changed my mind on him. He's been trying to wind people up all day and his posting is generally anti-town. There are valid reasons for scum to make weak anti-L posts in the situation.

Sandroba: I wanted him to start posting at his Mini Mafia X level. He produced one drunken one-liner in three days. White flag stuff.

Bill Murray: Only reason not to kill him is that allegedly he always plays this badly. Great. Still, if Protact doesn't want to kill him today then I'll respect that because it's his ass on the potential bomb.

Also a bunch of lurkers and near-lurkers. If Chaosquo shows up while I'm still conscious then I may switch to him.

Voting Kingjames01 and Sandroba because lynching GGQ is information-free. Voting double lynch for obvious reasons.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

January 20 2012 23:07 GMT

#3044

On January 21 2012 08:02 Bill Murray wrote:

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WBG I am leaning town on. However, when I caught up on the thread, I saw something around him I didn't like. When he was
talking to supersoft, revolving around the GGQ/L shit, I feel like 2 of them are probably mafia. It was a fishy situation.

BC has been the most contributing person in the thread so far, and I don't want to lose that, if he's town. If Protactinium would have bussed Ciryandor d1, would we be where we're at?

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Why would I claim hatter when I didn't have 2 bombs out? You can say "oh, you already did that", but when I'm a serious mislynch, I have to claim my role. There is no way I would have claimed my role to those masons. The only reason I claimed the BGs was in case me/BC both died, or just me? I'm not really sure how it would work - because mafia substituted them

I assumed I had to choose. I had a red or blue read on Lanaia, hence why she was a scum read d1 and isn't now.

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No, only in my head, but I can rectify that

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On January 21 2012 07:56 blahz0r wrote:

On January 21 2012 07:07 Foolishness wrote:

On January 21 2012 07:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On January 21 2012 06:51 p4NDemik wrote:
Seriously these three are beyond reason right now. This is super fucking fishy.

Go ahead. You're wrong, though. Either BC or Protactinium is mafia, 100%, book it, one is fooling the other.
Incognito is better at blending in than BC. Incognito is Protactinium, by the way. If you've noticed, reading my filter, I have grilled BC a few times. I didn't really get much out of it, but his actions up until now have seemed sooo protown. He has made huge walls, and has been a very good mayor. I want him to be town. I hope I'm not just being naive.

I also hope I'm not being naive in that you guys aren't going to lynch me after I put forth all the effort reading 40 pages of text walls last night, but if you do, I guess I should improve my town game. It wouldn't be the first game I've been mislynched as town on Teamliquid.

Speaking of that, a little WIFOM for you - I am always lynched as town, and not ever as mafia

Calling BS. 100% Book it.

See how dumb that sounds when I don't back it up with evidence? What was that nonsense D2 about "BC is Mafia. I'm voting for BC"? The only thing that's different is that he's come in here and advised against lynching YOU, is that literally the only reason BC goes from a scum-read who reads protown to a town read that you fail to mention your previous suspicion on?

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

January 20 2012 23:08 GMT

#3045

On January 21 2012 08:05 jaj22 wrote:
Ugh, long day. On the plus side, I now have loads of people that I want to kill:

GGQ: Still alive. Still dodging modkills.

Kingjames01: Changed my mind on him. He's been trying to wind people up all day and his posting is generally anti-town. There are valid reasons for scum to make weak anti-L posts in the situation.

Sandroba: I wanted him to start posting at his Mini Mafia X level. He produced one drunken one-liner in three days. White flag stuff.

Bill Murray: Only reason not to kill him is that allegedly he always plays this badly. Great. Still, if Protact doesn't want to kill him today then I'll respect that because it's his ass on the potential bomb.

Also a bunch of lurkers and near-lurkers. If Chaosquo shows up while I'm still conscious then I may switch to him.

Voting Kingjames01 and Sandroba because lynching GGQ is information-free. Voting double lynch for obvious reasons.

how is a GGQ lynch information free? if he flips red, chaos is red too. I don't see how a KJ or BM lynch provides more information.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

January 20 2012 23:08 GMT

#3046

On January 21 2012 08:05 Jayjay54 wrote:

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On January 21 2012 07:56 blahz0r wrote:

On January 21 2012 07:07 Foolishness wrote:

On January 21 2012 07:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On January 21 2012 06:51 p4NDemik wrote:
Seriously these three are beyond reason right now. This is super fucking fishy.

Ok I can buy this. I didn't know mad hatters could move thier bombs. That really does make some ideas about risk/reward make alot more sense.

That puts GGQ back into the sites for me.

##unvote Bill Murray
##vote GGQ

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

January 20 2012 23:08 GMT

#3047

I guess I have to switch to kingjames, after I counted up all the votes
im at 12 and he's at 11 i think, but if GGQ gets 3 or 4 more votes, or votes start coming off of me, I'd rather lynch GGQ than kingjames

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

January 20 2012 23:10 GMT

#3048

rofl at the timing of you saying that + my last post.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

January 20 2012 23:10 GMT

#3049

I missed our newest replacement vader. sorry. here you go <3

+ Show Spoiler +

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

January 20 2012 23:12 GMT

#3050

@vaderseven im lovin u right now

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

January 20 2012 23:13 GMT

#3051

I still think you are scummy!

♥

p4NDemik

United States13896 Posts

January 20 2012 23:14 GMT

#3052

flamewheel we could really really use a recount atm.

I'm pretty sure sandroba is actually going to be lynched as the current votes stand just by eyeballing it. Please the people who are saying "either sandroba is mafia or BC is mafia" go back and look at my filter and arguments for the supersoft lynch. If supersoft is mafia, (of which I'm like 99% on) then BC is ALSO mafia. Please don't hedge your bets by going for the either-or scenario when we can go 2/2 today and then have a solid follow-up lynch tomorrow. And don't let BM off the hook. He's putting on the charm now in the most crucial time but he's been anti town for ages now and this is a cheap ruse after all the shit he's pulled.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

January 20 2012 23:15 GMT

#3053

oh BM and we know now that you read my post,

so better remove that protact bomb or you definitely will be punished. You can't threaten him twice.

jaj22

United Kingdom1376 Posts

January 20 2012 23:20 GMT

#3054

On January 21 2012 08:08 vaderseven wrote:
Ok I can buy this. I didn't know mad hatters could move thier bombs.

Shit, I completely missed that. Definitely don't kill Bill Murray tonight.

I repeat, DO NOT KILL BILL TONIGHT

If he is town, I'm pretty sure he's trying to be pro-town. Therefore he will remove his bomb from Protactinium tonight.

risk.nuke

Sweden2825 Posts

January 20 2012 23:20 GMT

#3055

I need to know what's fucking going on about sandroba? His tunneling after he announced he wanted to lynch ciryandor if he won the election.

--> No new evidence has been added <-- (or have I missed something)

People keep tunneling him with the only case beeing his playstyle.

wanting to lynch red + nothing = lynch... NO, Sandroba voters. you're going to first take your vote of him NOW. And then TELL the thread why the shit you were voting for him or I'll have your heads!!

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

January 20 2012 23:22 GMT

#3056

wow someone really voted vanilla and without a post:

QUOTE]On January 21 2012 07:39 Slardar wrote:
##Vote: GGQ
##Vote: KingJames01[/QUOTE]

Slardar protip: if you see your name popping up on more and more scum lists, make sure to not silently vote the most voted players without saying anything.

get your ass in here and say why. and say it with your own words.

jaj22

United Kingdom1376 Posts

January 20 2012 23:23 GMT

#3057

On January 21 2012 08:08 Jayjay54 wrote:
how is a GGQ lynch information free? if he flips red, chaos is red too. I don't see how a KJ or BM lynch provides more information.

Yeah, you're right. If Chaosquo shows up, I'll switch to GGQ.

supersoft

Germany3729 Posts

January 20 2012 23:27 GMT

#3058

lol sandroba dude. I've been in Skype for like 40 hours now...

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

January 20 2012 23:32 GMT

#3059

On January 21 2012 08:27 supersoft wrote:
lol sandroba dude. I've been in Skype for like 40 hours now...

did he show up?