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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On January 21 2012 08:22 Jayjay54 wrote: wow someone really voted vanilla and without a post: QUOTE]On January 21 2012 07:39 Slardar wrote: ##Vote: GGQ ##Vote: KingJames01 Slardar protip: if you see your name popping up on more and more scum lists, make sure to not silently vote the most voted players without saying anything. get your ass in here and say why. and say it with your own words.[/QUOTE] Seems to be too much tension between the "big guns", obviously some are scum or else there would be more of a unilateral stance on a few people going left and right. Protract always seems pro-town yet for some reason, I feel fine wiping him out if BM is who he says he is (Mad Hatter), yet I don't want to lynch BM yet. BM has said he hasn't taken action for 2 nights, and only jailed Lanaia(who is fervently trying to get me killed, for reasons I cannot fully grasp yet). Is there anyone else to claim he/she was jailed to show BM is lying about that? | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
Since when is the length of time it takes me to post an indication of my Alignment? The PM's are really staggered. Below are the pertinent ones that involve me explaining the idea. Some are under different Subjects, but below are the ones that gave him my idea, him responding. Bill can confirm it as well. RE: Vader No, he never claimed it. RE: Lynches I don't know to vote for for the lynch. I'm starting to get into the mindset that GGQ might be scum, and I really want to put my other vote on glurio. It might be an unwarranted tunnel, but I have a red tint to his gameplay. + Show Spoiler + (From me to BM) Let me give you my plan. It my help you make you're decision. You have the name of the two Bodyguard's that we're ordered to protect you. In short, I want you to give me those names. Let me explain: I will know the names of the two Bodyguards. If they are both town, they do their job and protect you. If they are mafia, obviously both you and BC will die together, the two people that know their identities. We [read: Town] will have no idea who they are and they will disappear, and we will lose our two elected positions. However, if you give me the names, I can bring their identities out at that time, and they will be lynched. What is preventing you from thinking I am Mafia? Nothing. Save you're analysis. If you deem me town, I urge you to think of this. Say the two Bodyguard's are killed the next day; it would lean stronger to the fact that I might be Mafia, but I urge you to consider my history/ect. I am not Mafia. I am Town. I thought about this plan and I think it's a beneficial play that the Mason's could do, instead of being "totally useless to town." Please think about this plan, logically, and get back to me. Don't immediately think this is a Mafia ploy to kill the two Bodyguard's. If it was, it's trading two for one. Not a very good trade, Mafia-wise. Think. About. It. ~Jitsu _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ (From BM to Me) I already messaged the other mason them the fact he hasn't messaged me, after masoning me, makes him clearly town to me He hasn't outted AT ALL that I've seen I trust him more than you, sorry. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ (From me to BM) That's fine. Doesn't matter whether it's me or him, as long as you have him under a stronger town-read. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ **From this point, I gain his trust by trying to figure out if BC/OpZ are Jack's instead of Mason's. Bill says I townslipped because of Jackhunting, and that I must be town. Than he sends me a message of the BG's.** Bill can also confirm this. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
would you all be adverse to me putting my 2nd bomb out first? I'd rather have a bomb on incog and a bomb on risk.nuke, before I think about moving my bomb off incog, to keep my utility The reason I claimed 1 bomb now is because I can move my 2nd bomb out tonight If you all want me to move my 1 bomb tonight, I can't maximize having both bombs out tonight. What if I'm roleblocked? This is all a bunch of shit. I don't see why I had to be pressured today, this really hurt our play TREMENDOUSLY. I was thinking about the Risk.Nuke situation when I was showering, and he really sucks. OMGUS all over the place, considering his tunneling started after I put him as #3 on my scumspects list. He's defending scummy Sandroba now? He can hang next. I would either put my 2nd bomb or move my bomb on GGQQ, but it seems like he's going to get lynched, and I don't want to lose it. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
I seriously think behind our 3 heads are 2 mafia, or worse, all three of Foolishness,BM,BC are mafia. Foolishness may have supported BM because Foolish is very readable as scum, and thus tried to hide behind mattchew and BM, and also beacause BM had a real chance at mayorship from the start and that if he fucked up, due to his style he is unlikely to give trails. Pretty much a win-win for foolish here. BC has retracted his vote on BM, seemed pretty scared of Protact dying.He does a great job of mimicking scumhunting, while being wishy washy. Protact has found a third of the red team, including L which I did not highly suspect.His posts have been pretty focused apart from the day 1 switches.It would be moronic to kill him. On the other hand, I would have to be a complete idiot to believe BM's hatter claim. Reasons: 1.Why would you lay a bomb night 1 and forget night 2?? You're very likely to miss here,day 1 reads are unpolished at best.Apparently, you want us to believe that you assumed scum was running for the elections and you thought that was Protact. IMO you would not have done that if you were town, because it would have payed off to put a bomb on BC, or save your bombs for later: Think about it: If I die the first night as sheriff , WHO DO I WANT TO OUT : The mayor.That's right folks, BM can't die unless bodyguards are known or substituted both, 2nd case is crap, since then both sherrif and mayor would have died, or else mayor should have denounced bodyguards as SCUM. I pointed out a major flaw in BM's claim. Also posts like this I didn't get to send in anything last night, and I'm like 80 pages behind on reading I don't mind being lynched I've failed you all as a Sheriff Tries to accentuate he's sheriff and important without saying so. Anyone would disagree being lynched, but a townie sheriff more than scum sheriff.Why? Because as town, your ability per se helps town, no matter what.Scum, OTOH have to justify using incarcerate. Lanaia case? He gave a poor explanation, that it would help lower kp when it couldn't(First night, 10 reds). And scum, if they're not power scum, can and should sacrifice themselves should the need arrive. BM is scum, he has been throwing out trash posts including suspicion of both masons who masoned him, while if they were both scum, only one would have bothered.A few trash posts on my suspicion of protact, i said I believed he was bussing macpo, as the latter seemed pretty obvious as scum, perfect target for busses. Also, I wanted to see how protact would react. In conclusion, town wants to lynch KJ, so be it.Null on him atm. But GTF off sandro and ggq, cuz BM is SCUM. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2012 08:56 Bill Murray wrote: tonight I'm going to move my bomb to risk.nuke, since you all don't like it being on my top suspect would you all be adverse to me putting my 2nd bomb out first? I'd rather have a bomb on incog and a bomb on risk.nuke, before I think about moving my bomb off incog, to keep my utility The reason I claimed 1 bomb now is because I can move my 2nd bomb out tonight If you all want me to move my 1 bomb tonight, I can't maximize having both bombs out tonight. What if I'm roleblocked? This is all a bunch of shit. I don't see why I had to be pressured today, this really hurt our play TREMENDOUSLY. I was thinking about the Risk.Nuke situation when I was showering, and he really sucks. OMGUS all over the place, considering his tunneling started after I put him as #3 on my scumspects list. He's defending scummy Sandroba now? He can hang next. I would either put my 2nd bomb or move my bomb on GGQQ, but it seems like he's going to get lynched, and I don't want to lose it. you're immune to RB as far as I know. Quit whining about the possibility to be roleblocked :p | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On January 21 2012 08:58 Slardar wrote: Put an additional Bomb out (if you get to live) imo. wait why? protact is clearly town so why keep the bomb at him and risk him? There is NOOO benefit whatsover. Unless you say protact is scum. also @ BM, you don't lose your bomb when you put it on GGQ, since he's already dead then. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
And of course ##Vote: Bill Murray. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
##Vote ~Opz~ I voted these two guys right now. Opz is kind of a placeholder, but he was red on my list before and I saw kita and i spontaniously agreed. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:00 rgTheSchworz wrote: But GTF off sandro and ggq, cuz BM is SCUM. wait what? you're suggesting that we unvote GGQ and sandro because you think BM is scum. How is that logical? I for example have my votes on both of them and I think BM is scummy. If you look at this post, you'll find an explanation why to note vote BM on d3, but on d4, if he's still suspicious. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote: who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?) I did | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Unofficial Vote Count] + Day 3 Double Lynch Vote Tally Votes for Bill Murray (10) Cyber_Cheese wherebugsgo bumatlarge p4NDemik Nisani201 Jackal58 Cwave glurio risk.nuke VisceraEyes Votes for sandroba (15) Toadesstern Bill Murray hiro protagonist Nisani201 Protactinium Foolishness BloodyC0bbler (x3) Toadesstern Jackal58 Bill Murray Jayjay54 VisceraEyes jaj22 Votes for GGQ (9) Meapak_Ziphh Jayjay54 Lanaia Scamp Cyber_Cheese Slardar vaderseven kitaman27 Jitsu Votes for kingjames01 (13) Foolishness hiro protagonist Protactinium BloodyC0bbler (x3) Scamp Toadesstern glurio vaderseven Slardar jaj22 Bill Murray Votes for Toadesstern (1) wherebugsgo Votes for supersoft (2) p4NDemik BrownBear Votes for Meapak_Ziphh (2) bumatlarge Kenpachi Votes for p4NDemik (1) kingjames01 Votes for Kenpachi (1) BrownBear Votes for bumatlarge (1) Kenpachi Votes for Slardar (1) Lanaia Votes for ~OpZ~ (1) kitaman27 Votes for Double Lynch (3/20) Protactinium Cyber_Cheese jaj22 I don't know how these ghosts of days past are gaining momentum but this makes no sense. We've had no analysis on these people. GGQ should not be close to kingjames at all. I've been successfully relegated to the "he's pro town, but his analysis is bad" zone -_- Disappointing to see that so many are following sheepishly in this election. For the love of everything that is holy lets rally town. sandroba/GGQ are 2 day old theories that are stale and hollow, without significant analysis today. kingjames, BM, and supersoft have FRESH argumentation, logic, and activity/defenses to judge them on. They are mafia and we cannot let them off the hook lets go! | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:04 rgTheSchworz wrote: Forgot ##Vote: Kingjames01 since he is getting lynched no matter what, plus, we'll have info on this Cobbler. just no. he's not getting lynched no matter what. kingjames is a close one to sandro and ggq. even if he were, think about that vote a little longer and vote whatever you think it's right. That attitude is horrible. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Also BM you said early on that you trust me to be town right? I won't say I trust risk to be town but I don't think he's scum. What about a bomb on evantrees? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
This is a town decision, with everything hanging in the balance and the fact that this is a double-lynch day, I feel like this is an important lynch. What's it gonna be guys? | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:09 p4NDemik wrote: Really hope its ok to post this in here at least as flamewheel isn't around atm I fear. Or he's too absorbed in DotA -_- + Show Spoiler [Unofficial Vote Count] + Day 3 Double Lynch Vote Tally Votes for Bill Murray (11) Cyber_Cheese wherebugsgo bumatlarge p4NDemik Nisani201 Jackal58 Cwave glurio risk.nuke VisceraEyes rgTheSchworz Votes for sandroba (15) Toadesstern Bill Murray hiro protagonist Nisani201 Protactinium Foolishness BloodyC0bbler (x3) Toadesstern Jackal58 Bill Murray Jayjay54 VisceraEyes jaj22 Votes for GGQ (9) Meapak_Ziphh Jayjay54 Lanaia Scamp Cyber_Cheese Slardar vaderseven kitaman27 Jitsu Votes for kingjames01 (15) Foolishness hiro protagonist Protactinium BloodyC0bbler (x3) Scamp Toadesstern glurio vaderseven Slardar jaj22 Bill Murray supersoft rgTheSchworz Votes for Toadesstern (1) wherebugsgo Votes for supersoft (2) p4NDemik BrownBear Votes for Meapak_Ziphh (2) bumatlarge Kenpachi Votes for p4NDemik (1) kingjames01 Votes for Kenpachi (1) BrownBear Votes for bumatlarge (1) Kenpachi Votes for Slardar (1) Lanaia Votes for ~OpZ~ (2) kitaman27 supersoft Votes for Double Lynch (3/20) Protactinium Cyber_Cheese jaj22 I don't know how these ghosts of days past are gaining momentum but this makes no sense. We've had no analysis on these people. GGQ should not be close to kingjames at all. I've been successfully relegated to the "he's pro town, but his analysis is bad" zone -_- Disappointing to see that so many are following sheepishly in this election. For the love of everything that is holy lets rally town. sandroba/GGQ are 2 day old theories that are stale and hollow, without significant analysis today. kingjames, BM, and supersoft have FRESH argumentation, logic, and activity/defenses to judge them on. They are mafia and we cannot let them off the hook lets go! +2 votes for kingjames, +1 for OpZ, and +1 for BillMurray in this, votes were added as I was tabulating | ||
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