EPTFunny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-( | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:23 p4NDemik wrote: Don't lynch lurkers over people we have made enormous headway in analyzing today. BM gave up on this game at two different points, and had been expressing an incredible amount of apathy and irrational thought processes up until this play to go for sandroba. This is the last ditch effort of someone who decided he finally wanted to give a shit. Not the defense of genuine town. Throwing this away in favor of going for a lurker sandroba is irresponsible and can give a mafia BM another day to do as he pleases with immunity. Don't allow him this luxury. He has NOT earned it. This is not about luxury. BM is known for being an irrational player. BM "gave up" twice, but he didn't just give up. He spilled information while "giving up". Not something mafia does. His argumentation needs work, but he doesn't seem to be hiding anything. BM is far from a clear lynch. His reappearance since yesterday makes his alignment uncertain. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6789 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:31 rgTheSchworz wrote: 1.You are suspicious already. 2. Get off BM??Can't you see he is BS-ing about being hatter and playing on your fear?Read my last post. You are being watched lol | ||
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:22 EchelonTee wrote: Hold off on sandroba for now... there's nothing conclusive on him. From his filter, he does hardline against L at one point, in a short post. atm, I don't think scum engaged in a massive bussing scheme involving multiple players and what not... he's just playing lurky. flips will give a lot more information on people leading the lynch, because atm, there are a lot of people with town influence who are relatively unquestioned. meh. He doesn't hardline against L, he just makes one comment about him. L was already under suspicion from my first big post anyway. This has nothing to do with bussing. It has to do with the fact that sandroba's day 2-3 posting is far off from his day 1. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote: Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-( Funnier still that I like to lurk as scum, and give no reads... ^__^ | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote: Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-( He stayed in the 80p game, didn't he? Thought I bussed him that game. I've made up my mind and am changing to kj. He feels scummy in a way that intimidates me. Sorry I haven't said much today. Friday is my busy day. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:38 hiro protagonist wrote: Funnier still that I like to lurk as scum, and give no reads... ^__^ yes okay. I just looked up erandorrs posts and i had the impression that he's town back then. Well. He might have been had different reasons to quit the game this time... | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote: Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-( he was mafia in that 80 player game. I made a case about him early on (like d2?), placed a fos on him, telling him to start playing. Still remember it because I was really pissed later on that I did not push for his lynch :p | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:44 Toadesstern wrote: he was mafia in that 80 player game. I made a case about him early on (like d2?), placed a fos on him, telling him to start playing. Still remember it because I was really pissed later on that I did not push for his lynch :p I need your read on sandroba now!!! :D sorry. I need to gather some informations. I might mason you tomorrow. Discussing this game in german is much easier. Otherwise I'll have to take jayjay. :-/ | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
If he's newb, I think he got coached there: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote: Candidates and their main platform post+summary: kitaman bumatlarge-(also made a post here) Wiggles - town CC Foolishness (for BM) risk.nuke BM BC sandroba VE Meapak Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy. Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers. CC 1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform. 2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all. 3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it. 4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly. 5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy. 6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive. Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese. Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:49 supersoft wrote: Futhermore, I want to know if echlontree has already played a few games so far, and if so I need the gamenames/links would be extremely kind. ;-) If he's newb, I think he got coached there: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote: Candidates and their main platform post+summary: kitaman bumatlarge-(also made a post here) Wiggles - town CC Foolishness (for BM) risk.nuke BM BC sandroba VE Meapak Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy. Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers. CC 1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform. 2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all. 3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it. 4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly. 5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy. 6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive. Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese. Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol. ah forget what i said. I think this guy is legit. Painting him green. I kind of buy his "forgot the towntag"-story .... However it's remarkable that he accuses CC together with BM... | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
I got to go, let me leave you with this thought: If Bill is telling the truth, then mafia would get the chance of a life time if they could Mislynch him. They Kill an elected townie, and His Bomb goes off on the best scumhunter in the game, whom they know is town. Its win win for them and there is plenty of reasons to take big risks to getting him mislynched. Just look at some of the players that came out of the woodwork in the last hour to put there vote on BM. Mafia is taking the risk and its obvious. Please, vote for who you think is scum, but dont lynch BM. that is all. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:49 supersoft wrote: Futhermore, I want to know if echlontree has already played a few games so far, and if so I need the gamenames/links would be extremely kind. ;-) If he's newb, I think he got coached there: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote: Candidates and their main platform post+summary: kitaman bumatlarge-(also made a post here) Wiggles - town CC Foolishness (for BM) risk.nuke BM BC sandroba VE Meapak Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy. Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers. CC 1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform. 2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all. 3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it. 4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly. 5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy. 6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive. Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese. Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol. He was on a scum team with me and Adam4167 in Wiggles mini (Somewhere in my filter, ctrl+f Sephirotharg and it's in that post.) That was the format I was using in that game for my arguments. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Scum decided BM was doomed, and decided to just go along with it to avoid suspicion. Which caused a few townies unease because everyone were agreeing on BM (aka seemed to easy). Combination with BM's bullshit-claim, which is just the worlds worst dumbest lie. Because you don't let yourself get elected mayor as a Mad Hatter to begin with. It's like getting elected when you're a veteran... ONLY MUCH WORSE. The only reason he bloody said it was fearmongering that we might loose protact who was looking pro-town. Comeon If he actually were a mad hatter why on earth would he even had set a bomb on protect. And do you think he would had missed the damn second night action if he had an that important role? LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES, + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://zambooieproductimgprod.s3.amazonaws.com/446/953/full.jpg) And 15 votes on sandroba. What? Where is the reasoning and logic to support 15 votes. the guy is leading jesus. and you're worried about reds wagoning BM!! + Show Spoiler + Townies, get of Sandroba or start singing why? Because if sandroba flips town I'll be going after sandroba voters with apocalyptic fury. TLDR: Get the damn votes back on BM & get your damn votes off sandroba or give me a satisfying reason to lynch him. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:47 supersoft wrote: I need your read on sandroba now!!! :D sorry. I need to gather some informations. I might mason you tomorrow. Discussing this game in german is much easier. Otherwise I'll have to take jayjay. :-/ as mentioned if this sandroba switch would not have happened so fast I'd be all over him. I think sandroba is as scummy as someone can get but I'm quite scared about those 3 switching so "orchestrated". I already said it somewhere earlier it's like everyone in this thread was like "yeah white sounds good" and 10 seconds later it's "yeah, black it is". Just a complete change within seconds and that bothers me. However now that GGQ has caught up as well I'm pretty comfortable lynching sandroba. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:54 hiro protagonist wrote: yes toad, you need to put your vote where you read is and vote Sandroba plz ^__^ I got to go, let me leave you with this thought: If Bill is telling the truth, then mafia would get the chance of a life time if they could Mislynch him. They Kill an elected townie, and His Bomb goes off on the best scumhunter in the game, whom they know is town. Its win win for them and there is plenty of reasons to take big risks to getting him mislynched. Just look at some of the players that came out of the woodwork in the last hour to put there vote on BM. Mafia is taking the risk and its obvious. Please, vote for who you think is scum, but dont lynch BM. that is all. According to p4N I already voted Sandroba twice. Want me to place a 3rd vote on him? :D | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 21 2012 09:54 risk.nuke wrote: Let me tell you what happend. Someone set up us the bomb? | ||
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