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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:34 GMT
#3101
On January 21 2012 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote:
who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?)

I did


Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 21 2012 00:34 GMT
#3102
Sorry guys I was tied up at the business school all day. Tabulating votes now.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
January 21 2012 00:35 GMT
#3103
On January 21 2012 09:23 p4NDemik wrote:
Don't lynch lurkers over people we have made enormous headway in analyzing today.

BM gave up on this game at two different points, and had been expressing an incredible amount of apathy and irrational thought processes up until this play to go for sandroba. This is the last ditch effort of someone who decided he finally wanted to give a shit. Not the defense of genuine town. Throwing this away in favor of going for a lurker sandroba is irresponsible and can give a mafia BM another day to do as he pleases with immunity. Don't allow him this luxury. He has NOT earned it.

This is not about luxury. BM is known for being an irrational player. BM "gave up" twice, but he didn't just give up. He spilled information while "giving up". Not something mafia does.

His argumentation needs work, but he doesn't seem to be hiding anything. BM is far from a clear lynch. His reappearance since yesterday makes his alignment uncertain.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 21 2012 00:37 GMT
#3104
On January 21 2012 09:31 rgTheSchworz wrote:
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On January 21 2012 09:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok we're not going to lynch BM. The risk of him being hatter is way to high. Protact is probably the most valuable asset town has at the moment, there's no point putting that in jeoprody. Here's what's going to happen. BM moves him bomb tonight to Bum or BrownBear. we vote DL tomorrow and tomorrow night BM puts his other bomb on whichever person he hadn't previously. Then we lynch BM. This utilizes BM's role properly, and it also gives a set date for BM to die so he won't just get away from this if he's scum.

People seriously need to get off BM now.


1.You are suspicious already.
2. Get off BM??Can't you see he is BS-ing about being hatter and playing on your fear?Read my last post.

You are being watched

lol
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Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
January 21 2012 00:38 GMT
#3105
On January 21 2012 09:22 EchelonTee wrote:
Hold off on sandroba for now... there's nothing conclusive on him. From his filter, he does hardline against L at one point, in a short post. atm, I don't think scum engaged in a massive bussing scheme involving multiple players and what not... he's just playing lurky.

flips will give a lot more information on people leading the lynch, because atm, there are a lot of people with town influence who are relatively unquestioned. meh.

He doesn't hardline against L, he just makes one comment about him. L was already under suspicion from my first big post anyway. This has nothing to do with bussing. It has to do with the fact that sandroba's day 2-3 posting is far off from his day 1.
And so, we find the Sublime.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
January 21 2012 00:38 GMT
#3106
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote:
who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?)

I did


Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(


Funnier still that I like to lurk as scum, and give no reads... ^__^
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 21 2012 00:42 GMT
#3107
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote:
who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?)

I did


Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(


He stayed in the 80p game, didn't he? Thought I bussed him that game.

I've made up my mind and am changing to kj. He feels scummy in a way that intimidates me.

Sorry I haven't said much today. Friday is my busy day.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:42 GMT
#3108
On January 21 2012 09:38 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote:
who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?)

I did


Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(


Funnier still that I like to lurk as scum, and give no reads... ^__^


yes okay. I just looked up erandorrs posts and i had the impression that he's town back then. Well. He might have been had different reasons to quit the game this time...
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2012 00:44 GMT
#3109
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote:
who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?)

I did


Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(


he was mafia in that 80 player game. I made a case about him early on (like d2?), placed a fos on him, telling him to start playing. Still remember it because I was really pissed later on that I did not push for his lynch :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:47 GMT
#3110
On January 21 2012 09:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote:
who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?)

I did


Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(


he was mafia in that 80 player game. I made a case about him early on (like d2?), placed a fos on him, telling him to start playing. Still remember it because I was really pissed later on that I did not push for his lynch :p


I need your read on sandroba now!!! :D
sorry. I need to gather some informations. I might mason you tomorrow. Discussing this game in german is much easier.
Otherwise I'll have to take jayjay. :-/
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:49 GMT
#3111
Futhermore, I want to know if echlontree has already played a few games so far, and if so I need the gamenames/links would be extremely kind. ;-)
If he's newb, I think he got coached there:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote:
Candidates and their main platform post+summary:

kitaman
bumatlarge-(also made a post here)
Wiggles - town
CC
Foolishness (for BM)
risk.nuke
BM
BC
sandroba
VE
Meapak

Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy.

Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers.

CC

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Cheese for mare!
Campaign unofficially endorsed by flamewheel

As you all know, my scum play is pretty bad, and I have the time to put into the game to discern the scum from the town. Giving me those extra votes is securing a safe town future.

I'm going to lynch the scummiest mayorial candidate, and my vote will go to the person that seems to have the most time to (effectively) put into the game.1


1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform.

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On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.2

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. 3

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... 4

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all.

3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it.

4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly.


Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.

At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted.
I made a joke about lynching Wiggles.
Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.5


On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced.
Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me
Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.6


5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy.

6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive.

Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese.

Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol.

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:53 GMT
#3112
On January 21 2012 09:49 supersoft wrote:
Futhermore, I want to know if echlontree has already played a few games so far, and if so I need the gamenames/links would be extremely kind. ;-)
If he's newb, I think he got coached there:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote:
Candidates and their main platform post+summary:

kitaman
bumatlarge-(also made a post here)
Wiggles - town
CC
Foolishness (for BM)
risk.nuke
BM
BC
sandroba
VE
Meapak

Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy.

Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers.

CC

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Cheese for mare!
Campaign unofficially endorsed by flamewheel

As you all know, my scum play is pretty bad, and I have the time to put into the game to discern the scum from the town. Giving me those extra votes is securing a safe town future.

I'm going to lynch the scummiest mayorial candidate, and my vote will go to the person that seems to have the most time to (effectively) put into the game.1


1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform.

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.2

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. 3

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... 4

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all.

3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it.

4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly.


Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.

At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted.
I made a joke about lynching Wiggles.
Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.5


On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced.
Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me
Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.6


5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy.

6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive.

Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese.

Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol.



ah forget what i said. I think this guy is legit. Painting him green.
I kind of buy his "forgot the towntag"-story ....

However it's remarkable that he accuses CC together with BM...
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#3113
Protact I still want your thoughts on WBG please. Don't think I've ignored the fact that you've ignored this request sir.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
January 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#3114
yes toad, you need to put your vote where you read is and vote Sandroba plz ^__^

I got to go, let me leave you with this thought:

If Bill is telling the truth, then mafia would get the chance of a life time if they could Mislynch him. They Kill an elected townie, and His Bomb goes off on the best scumhunter in the game, whom they know is town. Its win win for them and there is plenty of reasons to take big risks to getting him mislynched. Just look at some of the players that came out of the woodwork in the last hour to put there vote on BM. Mafia is taking the risk and its obvious.

Please, vote for who you think is scum, but dont lynch BM. that is all.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#3115
On January 21 2012 09:49 supersoft wrote:
Futhermore, I want to know if echlontree has already played a few games so far, and if so I need the gamenames/links would be extremely kind. ;-)
If he's newb, I think he got coached there:

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On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote:
Candidates and their main platform post+summary:

kitaman
bumatlarge-(also made a post here)
Wiggles - town
CC
Foolishness (for BM)
risk.nuke
BM
BC
sandroba
VE
Meapak

Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy.

Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers.

CC

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On January 13 2012 14:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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Cheese for mare!
Campaign unofficially endorsed by flamewheel

As you all know, my scum play is pretty bad, and I have the time to put into the game to discern the scum from the town. Giving me those extra votes is securing a safe town future.

I'm going to lynch the scummiest mayorial candidate, and my vote will go to the person that seems to have the most time to (effectively) put into the game.1


1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform.

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On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.2

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. 3

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
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On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... 4

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all.

3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it.

4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly.


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On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.

At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted.
I made a joke about lynching Wiggles.
Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.5


On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced.
Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me
Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.6


5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy.

6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive.

Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese.

Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol.


He was on a scum team with me and Adam4167 in Wiggles mini (Somewhere in my filter, ctrl+f Sephirotharg and it's in that post.) That was the format I was using in that game for my arguments.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#3116
Let me tell you what happend.

Scum decided BM was doomed, and decided to just go along with it to avoid suspicion. Which caused a few townies unease because everyone were agreeing on BM (aka seemed to easy). Combination with BM's bullshit-claim, which is just the worlds worst dumbest lie. Because you don't let yourself get elected mayor as a Mad Hatter to begin with. It's like getting elected when you're a veteran... ONLY MUCH WORSE. The only reason he bloody said it was fearmongering that we might loose protact who was looking pro-town. Comeon If he actually were a mad hatter why on earth would he even had set a bomb on protect. And do you think he would had missed the damn second night action if he had an that important role? LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES, + Show Spoiler +
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And 15 votes on sandroba. What? Where is the reasoning and logic to support 15 votes. the guy is leading jesus. and you're worried about reds wagoning BM!!
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Townies, get of Sandroba or start singing why? Because if sandroba flips town I'll be going after sandroba voters with apocalyptic fury.

TLDR: Get the damn votes back on BM & get your damn votes off sandroba or give me a satisfying reason to lynch him.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2012 00:55 GMT
#3117
On January 21 2012 09:47 supersoft wrote:
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On January 21 2012 09:44 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote:
who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?)

I did


Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(


he was mafia in that 80 player game. I made a case about him early on (like d2?), placed a fos on him, telling him to start playing. Still remember it because I was really pissed later on that I did not push for his lynch :p


I need your read on sandroba now!!! :D
sorry. I need to gather some informations. I might mason you tomorrow. Discussing this game in german is much easier.
Otherwise I'll have to take jayjay. :-/


as mentioned if this sandroba switch would not have happened so fast I'd be all over him. I think sandroba is as scummy as someone can get but I'm quite scared about those 3 switching so "orchestrated".
I already said it somewhere earlier it's like everyone in this thread was like "yeah white sounds good" and 10 seconds later it's "yeah, black it is". Just a complete change within seconds and that bothers me.

However now that GGQ has caught up as well I'm pretty comfortable lynching sandroba.
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
January 21 2012 00:55 GMT
#3118
and risk.nuke is scum. good to know, thanks risk!
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2012 00:56 GMT
#3119
On January 21 2012 09:54 hiro protagonist wrote:
yes toad, you need to put your vote where you read is and vote Sandroba plz ^__^

I got to go, let me leave you with this thought:

If Bill is telling the truth, then mafia would get the chance of a life time if they could Mislynch him. They Kill an elected townie, and His Bomb goes off on the best scumhunter in the game, whom they know is town. Its win win for them and there is plenty of reasons to take big risks to getting him mislynched. Just look at some of the players that came out of the woodwork in the last hour to put there vote on BM. Mafia is taking the risk and its obvious.

Please, vote for who you think is scum, but dont lynch BM. that is all.


According to p4N I already voted Sandroba twice. Want me to place a 3rd vote on him? :D
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 00:57 GMT
#3120
On January 21 2012 09:54 risk.nuke wrote:
Let me tell you what happend.

Someone set up us the bomb?
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