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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2012 00:14 GMT
#3081
how the fuck did GGQ get 9 votes oO
I am no longer scared to lynch sandro + KJ.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 21 2012 00:15 GMT
#3082
To clarify, I meant to say that I suspect that Protact's interest in lynching Sandroba has to do with Sandroba's complete absence...it came across as I think bumatlarge being missing has to do with Sandroba being absent, which isn't what I meant. That is all.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 21 2012 00:16 GMT
#3083
Didnt count the votes, but voting on a guy who posts drunk 1 -liners and funny stories when wanting to be mayor isnt the best bet.
He could be an uninterested townie, could also be scum.Not the best lynch today
GGQ isn't getting lynched today, nearly all votes have been distributed.
And priority nr 1 for me is to get BM lynched for the reasons above.

Plus, I am interested in seeing how KJ flips, because of BC's virulent response to KJ's accusations.

I'll say it again :Vote BM if you think and care.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
January 21 2012 00:17 GMT
#3084
On January 21 2012 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here and my votes are for sale. Protact pushing Sandroba so hard is SOOOOOOOO suspicious to me. Like, think about it: he's been "scumhunting" all game - why lynch Sandroba? There's no new information (although arguably that is part of Protact's problem with him), so what makes him more likely to flip red today than yesterday BEFORE Macpo got lynched? I mean, if it's about his activity, why not go after someone like BrownBear or evantrees or something? Because Sandroba "should know better"? So should bum! Where the hell is bumatlarge during all this? No idea - but I suspect that it has to do with Sandroba's complete absence.

This is a town decision, with everything hanging in the balance and the fact that this is a double-lynch day, I feel like this is an important lynch. What's it gonna be guys?

If you notice, bum is on my list too. But of course, we can only lynch 2 people today. And yes, sandroba's post-day 1 posting is utterly atrocious, which is the primary motivation behind his lynch.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2012 00:18 GMT
#3085
On January 21 2012 09:14 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:09 p4NDemik wrote:
Really hope its ok to post this in here at least as flamewheel isn't around atm I fear. Or he's too absorbed in DotA -_-

+ Show Spoiler [Unofficial Vote Count] +
Day 3 Double Lynch Vote Tally

Votes for Bill Murray (11)
Cyber_Cheese
wherebugsgo
bumatlarge
p4NDemik
Nisani201
Jackal58
Cwave
glurio
risk.nuke
VisceraEyes
rgTheSchworz

Votes for sandroba (15)
Toadesstern
Bill Murray
hiro protagonist
Nisani201
Protactinium
Foolishness
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Toadesstern
Jackal58
Bill Murray
Jayjay54
VisceraEyes
jaj22

Votes for GGQ (9)
Meapak_Ziphh
Jayjay54
Lanaia
Scamp
Cyber_Cheese
Slardar
vaderseven
kitaman27
Jitsu

Votes for kingjames01 (15)
Foolishness
hiro protagonist
Protactinium
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Scamp
Toadesstern
glurio
vaderseven
Slardar
jaj22
Bill Murray
supersoft
rgTheSchworz

Votes for Toadesstern (1)
wherebugsgo

Votes for supersoft (2)
p4NDemik
BrownBear

Votes for Meapak_Ziphh (2)
bumatlarge
Kenpachi

Votes for p4NDemik (1)
kingjames01

Votes for Kenpachi (1)
BrownBear

Votes for bumatlarge (1)
Kenpachi

Votes for Slardar (1)
Lanaia

Votes for ~OpZ~ (2)
kitaman27
supersoft

Votes for Double Lynch (3/20)
Protactinium
Cyber_Cheese
jaj22

I don't know how these ghosts of days past are gaining momentum but this makes no sense. We've had no analysis on these people. GGQ should not be close to kingjames at all. I've been successfully relegated to the "he's pro town, but his analysis is bad" zone -_-

Disappointing to see that so many are following sheepishly in this election. For the love of everything that is holy lets rally town. sandroba/GGQ are 2 day old theories that are stale and hollow, without significant analysis today. kingjames, BM, and supersoft have FRESH argumentation, logic, and activity/defenses to judge them on. They are mafia and we cannot let them off the hook lets go!

+2 votes for kingjames, +1 for OpZ, and +1 for BillMurray in this, votes were added as I was tabulating


I like that you trust me but I'm not actually half a mayor. I can only vote 2 people and I most certainly can't vote sandroba twice :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 21 2012 00:18 GMT
#3086
On January 21 2012 09:09 p4NDemik wrote:

I don't know how these ghosts of days past are gaining momentum but this makes no sense. We've had no analysis on these people. GGQ should not be close to kingjames at all. I've been successfully relegated to the "he's pro town, but his analysis is bad" zone -_-

Disappointing to see that so many are following sheepishly in this election. For the love of everything that is holy lets rally town. sandroba/GGQ are 2 day old theories that are stale and hollow, without significant analysis today. kingjames, BM, and supersoft have FRESH argumentation, logic, and activity/defenses to judge them on. They are mafia and we cannot let them off the hook lets go!


Oh, so going to lurk mode is now actively protecting you from being lynched? How convenient.

GGQ has done shit to prove his innocence. He posted 3 times in 4 days. Look at the post and tell me that the old theory is wrong now.

Sandro is entirely different....wait....they are not. he did two drunk posts and that's it.

It would be very bad if people can just hide and they get innocent. Furthermore, we'll get like none information out of a KJ lynch, while we do get informatio on GGQ and sandro...
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 00:19 GMT
#3087
There are actually something like 15 votes that haven't been cast yet. we're at like 61 and there are 78 total votes. A lot can change. People we need to consolidate on KJ and BM here. They have been the strongest cases all day long and going for yesterday's 2nd best lynch on the whim of proact (even if he has a good track record) is not a wise move. Stay the course and vote BM out.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
January 21 2012 00:22 GMT
#3088
Hold off on sandroba for now... there's nothing conclusive on him. From his filter, he does hardline against L at one point, in a short post. atm, I don't think scum engaged in a massive bussing scheme involving multiple players and what not... he's just playing lurky.

flips will give a lot more information on people leading the lynch, because atm, there are a lot of people with town influence who are relatively unquestioned. meh.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 00:23 GMT
#3089
Don't lynch lurkers over people we have made enormous headway in analyzing today.

BM gave up on this game at two different points, and had been expressing an incredible amount of apathy and irrational thought processes up until this play to go for sandroba. This is the last ditch effort of someone who decided he finally wanted to give a shit. Not the defense of genuine town. Throwing this away in favor of going for a lurker sandroba is irresponsible and can give a mafia BM another day to do as he pleases with immunity. Don't allow him this luxury. He has NOT earned it.
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7595 Posts
January 21 2012 00:25 GMT
#3090
Interesting to note BC, Protract and Foolishness all immediately have taken votes off BM.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 21 2012 00:25 GMT
#3091
On January 21 2012 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here and my votes are for sale. Protact pushing Sandroba so hard is SOOOOOOOO suspicious to me. Like, think about it: he's been "scumhunting" all game - why lynch Sandroba? There's no new information (although arguably that is part of Protact's problem with him), so what makes him more likely to flip red today than yesterday BEFORE Macpo got lynched? I mean, if it's about his activity, why not go after someone like BrownBear or evantrees or something?

Sandroba's recent inactivity is certainly my problem with him. There are a whole bunch of lurkers including BrownBear and Evantrees with little to choose between them, so voting for them is like half a vote for Bill Murray.

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 21 2012 00:26 GMT
#3092
On January 21 2012 09:17 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here and my votes are for sale. Protact pushing Sandroba so hard is SOOOOOOOO suspicious to me. Like, think about it: he's been "scumhunting" all game - why lynch Sandroba? There's no new information (although arguably that is part of Protact's problem with him), so what makes him more likely to flip red today than yesterday BEFORE Macpo got lynched? I mean, if it's about his activity, why not go after someone like BrownBear or evantrees or something? Because Sandroba "should know better"? So should bum! Where the hell is bumatlarge during all this? No idea - but I suspect that it has to do with Sandroba's complete absence.

This is a town decision, with everything hanging in the balance and the fact that this is a double-lynch day, I feel like this is an important lynch. What's it gonna be guys?

If you notice, bum is on my list too. But of course, we can only lynch 2 people today. And yes, sandroba's post-day 1 posting is utterly atrocious, which is the primary motivation behind his lynch.


Dude his D1 posting was atrocious too, why not push him D2? As he knows what he's doing, it seems he'd be a higher-priority than Macpo was, yet you "had" to get Macpo lynched first? Why? What am I missing?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7595 Posts
January 21 2012 00:27 GMT
#3093
Scratch that, misread the thread.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 21 2012 00:28 GMT
#3094
Ok we're not going to lynch BM. The risk of him being hatter is way to high. Protact is probably the most valuable asset town has at the moment, there's no point putting that in jeoprody. Here's what's going to happen. BM moves him bomb tonight to Bum or BrownBear. we vote DL tomorrow and tomorrow night BM puts his other bomb on whichever person he hadn't previously. Then we lynch BM. This utilizes BM's role properly, and it also gives a set date for BM to die so he won't just get away from this if he's scum.

People seriously need to get off BM now.
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 21 2012 00:28 GMT
#3095
On January 21 2012 09:23 p4NDemik wrote:
Don't lynch lurkers over people we have made enormous headway in analyzing today.

BM gave up on this game at two different points, and had been expressing an incredible amount of apathy and irrational thought processes up until this play to go for sandroba. This is the last ditch effort of someone who decided he finally wanted to give a shit. Not the defense of genuine town. Throwing this away in favor of going for a lurker sandroba is irresponsible and can give a mafia BM another day to do as he pleases with immunity. Don't allow him this luxury. He has NOT earned it.


alright, I got a scenario for you. He actually IS town, since we are never sure. Then we would not only lose our sheriff, but also our prob best scum hunter. Have you considered that?

People are saying he is playing crazy.

So he should remove his bomb. Then we discuss again.

I think he is scummy too, but there is no real reason to push him that badly, when there a 3 other candidates and protact is on the line here.

again, if you haven't read it:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=153#3042

his story makes sense in a way. It's not really a nice story, but it is not as easy to dismiss.


please think before you push that hard.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
January 21 2012 00:29 GMT
#3096
BM is not the best lynch today.

The hatter claim makes sense given that nobody has claimed to have been incarcerated last night. Now while it is possible that a mafia BM just didn't incarcerate anyone, it doesn't make sense given the night kills. Neither Foolishness or I were shot, and if BM were mafia, he would have known that. Why would he not take the opportunity to show he is pro-town by actually jailing us then? BM misses an opportunity to show he is pro-town, when the mafia agenda is to look pro-town. Thus, BM's hatter claim makes sense. Furthermore, I was #1 on BM's long list of "Lynch lynch lynch!" candidates. So that bomb placement makes sense from his viewpoint.

Finally, his activity has picked up today and he has been throwing around reads. While they are pretty atrocious, mafia don't just pop out and volunteer a bunch of information.

Given these factors, I'm willing to give BM the benefit of the doubt for today. Lynch Sandroba/kingjames please.
And so, we find the Sublime.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:30 GMT
#3097
On January 21 2012 09:25 Slardar wrote:
Interesting to note BC, Protract and Foolishness all immediately have taken votes off BM.


They're all scum? Is that what you want to say? pfff You guys. Sometimes I don't know what you're thinking.
This setup is somehow balanced.
I am 100% sure that at least 2 of these guys are town.
I am working throgh the thread right from the beginning and sorting my lists and copy quotes. it's incredibly annoying to deal with stupid things like this all the time.

I mean. If I reread your filter in endgame. What do I think? If no funny coincidence confirms you as town, you're free to lynch in my eyes. You're unjudgeable. We have to get rid of people like this.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 21 2012 00:31 GMT
#3098
On January 21 2012 09:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok we're not going to lynch BM. The risk of him being hatter is way to high. Protact is probably the most valuable asset town has at the moment, there's no point putting that in jeoprody. Here's what's going to happen. BM moves him bomb tonight to Bum or BrownBear. we vote DL tomorrow and tomorrow night BM puts his other bomb on whichever person he hadn't previously. Then we lynch BM. This utilizes BM's role properly, and it also gives a set date for BM to die so he won't just get away from this if he's scum.

People seriously need to get off BM now.


1.You are suspicious already.
2. Get off BM??Can't you see he is BS-ing about being hatter and playing on your fear?Read my last post.

You are being watched
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
January 21 2012 00:33 GMT
#3099
On January 21 2012 09:09 p4NDemik wrote:
Really hope its ok to post this in here at least as flamewheel isn't around atm I fear. Or he's too absorbed in DotA -_-

+ Show Spoiler [Unofficial Vote Count] +
Day 3 Double Lynch Vote Tally

Votes for Bill Murray (10)
Cyber_Cheese
wherebugsgo
bumatlarge
p4NDemik
Nisani201
Jackal58
Cwave
glurio
risk.nuke
VisceraEyes

Votes for sandroba (15)
Toadesstern
Bill Murray
hiro protagonist
Nisani201
Protactinium
Foolishness
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Toadesstern
Jackal58
Bill Murray
Jayjay54
VisceraEyes
jaj22

Votes for GGQ (9)
Meapak_Ziphh
Jayjay54
Lanaia
Scamp
Cyber_Cheese
Slardar
vaderseven
kitaman27
Jitsu

Votes for kingjames01 (13)
Foolishness
hiro protagonist
Protactinium
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Scamp
Toadesstern
glurio
vaderseven
Slardar
jaj22
Bill Murray

Votes for Toadesstern (1)
wherebugsgo

Votes for supersoft (2)
p4NDemik
BrownBear

Votes for Meapak_Ziphh (2)
bumatlarge
Kenpachi

Votes for p4NDemik (1)
kingjames01

Votes for Kenpachi (1)
BrownBear

Votes for bumatlarge (1)
Kenpachi

Votes for Slardar (1)
Lanaia

Votes for ~OpZ~ (1)
kitaman27

Votes for Double Lynch (3/20)
Protactinium
Cyber_Cheese
jaj22

I don't know how these ghosts of days past are gaining momentum but this makes no sense. We've had no analysis on these people. GGQ should not be close to kingjames at all. I've been successfully relegated to the "he's pro town, but his analysis is bad" zone -_-

Disappointing to see that so many are following sheepishly in this election. For the love of everything that is holy lets rally town. sandroba/GGQ are 2 day old theories that are stale and hollow, without significant analysis today. kingjames, BM, and supersoft have FRESH argumentation, logic, and activity/defenses to judge them on. They are mafia and we cannot let them off the hook lets go!


Why are you so dead set on not getting Sandro lynched? He is not old news. I put forth a very Logical analysis against him at the start of day 2. Sense then, His actions have only cemented my thoughts that He is red. We have just about everyone still playing to form an opinion on him, and his flip will provide Tremendous amounts of Info.

To say that my arguments are old and thus not worth attention is something I disagree with. Not only do I feel that Sandro has the best chance at flipping scum, but we will get buttloads of info from his flip. Sandro and Kingjames are simply the best choses in my eyes.

I disagree with your stance on BM. I have no idea on his aliment yet, so I would rather lynch scum than someone Im not sure on.

I can see your case on supersoft, but again, I think Sandro is more likely scum right now. I will totally give supersoft the once over in the coming days, but my vote will stay on Sandro/kingjames for today.
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Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 21 2012 00:34 GMT
#3100
I'll consider switching my vote on slardar for the day, but the vote on GGQ stays.

However, I'm not sure who to switch to. I'm not touching the BM wagon. I'm not touching sandro.
Quickly rereading KJ to see how I feel about lynching him.


On January 21 2012 09:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok we're not going to lynch BM. The risk of him being hatter is way to high. Protact is probably the most valuable asset town has at the moment, there's no point putting that in jeoprody. Here's what's going to happen. BM moves him bomb tonight to Bum or BrownBear. we vote DL tomorrow and tomorrow night BM puts his other bomb on whichever person he hadn't previously. Then we lynch BM. This utilizes BM's role properly, and it also gives a set date for BM to die so he won't just get away from this if he's scum.

People seriously need to get off BM now.


I agree with this; however bum may not be the best choice.
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1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
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