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Let's try to sum it up for those who are trying to understand something to this whole mess.
The Law
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One and only thing I know about law is that common sense or wishful thinking have nothing to do with it, and 99% of comments here are nothing but that (I believe this, someone told me that, etc). In this matter, until we can read the contract and have the opinion of professional lawyers used to international law issues, any comment is basically pointless. We don't even know which law can apply here, maybe French law applies in France, maybe coL contract is not even valid in France regarding french law (very likely), maybe US law applies in US and coL contract is valid in US regarding US law (very likely as well), maybe both these things are true, maybe none of them. This is, all things taken into perspective, quite similar to the Polanski issue (and let me assure you I was on the US side on this one, Europe don't need 13 y.o. girls rapists, even if they make good movies), and you all saw the mess it was.
I just hope all this won't prevent Stephano to play in incoming US events, because he really is a great player, extremly skilled, easily one of the top foreign zerg playing along with Sen, Idra, Ret, Nerchio or Dimaga.
The Morale
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Let's face it, what bothers most people here is that Stephano came back on his world, and that Millenium tried to speak Stephano out of coL. Law doesn't care about the morale, but us humans do, that makes or breaks reputations, so that's kind of a big deal.
Let's take a look at the chain of events :
1) Stephano plays for M without any contract and has some success in various online and LAN events. (Go4SC2, HSC, Dreamhack, IPL qualifiers, etc)
2) A lot of teams are interested in Stephano and try to sign him. (among those teams, Mouz, coL and Millenium, Millenium is at this point no different than any other team)
3) Stephano speaks with those teams, then gives his word to Millenium that he will spend another year with them, this time under a contract. He even said so in an online interview on a france esports information website (esportsfrance.com).You could call this an oral contract.
4) Teams others than Millenium, especially coL, keep asking Stephano to join them. This is where it starts to be fishy. Contacts should have been made with the current team of Stephano (as he has no agent) as well so the 3 could discuss it together. This never happened. The so called bidding war was with Stephano as a "man in the middle". Maybe he even never told Millenium which team was making him offers.
5) coL makes a final offer, probably a big one, and Stephano signs at 3 AM without talking to Millenium first. They learn it the morning while browsing on the internet (last thing they knew about this was Stephano telling them he declined all other teams and would sign with them), drinking their coffee. You can imagine their surprise.
6) Millenium makes another proposition to Stephano and talks him out of coL.
7) Stephano signs with Millenium, Internet drama follows.
What coL did was at best not very classy. They tried to poach Stephano. Why do you think they never directly contacted Millenium before signing Stephano : because they thought they would have a better chance signing it doing so. On top of it, internet threats are out of place in a debate like this one.
What Millenium did was at best not very classy. They basically did the same thing as coL, not speaking directly to the other team before signing the player, using the "you do it to me, I do it to you" excuse I guess. On top of it, the announcement of their top manager is too aggressive, a fact that was recognize by their SC2 manager, Llwellys, on his stream last night.
Ultimately, what Stephano did was simply wrong. You don't give your world to come back on it a few hours later. It is imho the main reason all this happened, clearly he is at fault. He'll be punished enough by the reputation it will give him, though.
From my point of view, the three have a part of responsibility, and their actions are morally questionable. They probably acted at any point of time in what seemed to be their best interest.
I want to emphasize the point that this whole paragraph is about the morale, not the law. The law doesn't care if something is morally right or wrong.
As a transition, some words about Stephano, Millenium and the french and EU esports scenes.
Millenium is the top french esports organization at the time being. They do have some money and long terms plans to develop esports in France and in the world. Their webTV is quite active and they have a good number of sponsors who thus acquire nice french visibility. This is quite important for those sponsors, because french esports scene is actually big in term of number of gamers, and not easily reachable via english-speaking organizations. (Don't get me started on the teaching of English in France and the French nationalism, it's almost as bad as the US nationalism  <= this is humor, tyvm)
Stephano is their top player and they have big plans for him (including sending him to a gaming house in France so he can focus on SC2 and train with not only other M players, but also with other European players - think HSC here, and from what I saw Europe is a at least as good if not better place than US to practice SC2). They also plan to send him to most world events he is able to qualify, and a 2 months travel in Korea is planned so he can train and test his skills. As opposed to ToD who wanted to go in Korea for 6 months, Stephano is more than fine with 2. This is why ToD left and Stephano didn't. All this was said by Millenium SC2 manager Llewelys on his stream last night.
Additionally, with his CDI contract with Millenium, Stephano becomes the first real french pro-gamer, and starts to collect for his pension at the age of 18. That is a very big deal. This is why I'm not sure coL would be a better place than Millenium for Stephano to continue his career. You could also add the fact that the Millenium staff knows Stephano and his irl needs pretty well now.
The future
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First, wait for Millenium (and maybe Stephano) announcement. It will happen. Don't believe any misinformation you may have read here about what the M SC2 manager said last night (like not reading and not answering at all), he actually said they wouldn't answer in a hurry and would read coL mails and answer them with a cold head. An official statement on the subject will also be made. This actually seems sensible to me. He also said he thinks the drama will be forgotten in 2 weeks, a matter I tend to disagree with, but that's what he thinks and it doesn't affect much how he acts.
Then, wait for Millenium and coL to speak together. I'm almost sure it will happen before law is involved. Llewelys is actually a nice guy, very professional, with a lot of recognition in the french and EU esports scene, and I have no doubt he'll make the right choice in this matter. I hope both teams will stop the cat-fight (to not to use the epeen fight word) and come to their senses. Maybe coL will decide to sue Millenium, but I highly doubt it will take place without some negotiations first.
On a larger level, that this drama actually takes place is the sign esports need more solid bases to deal with this kind of issues. That means players' agents, international organization (KESPA II ?), etc. That is actually a good sign for esports. Now the question is, will esports take the leap ? If yes, how and when ?
Finally, put things into perspective. This is hardly a life or death issue and doesn't deserve all the hate that is going around. Yes, a contract breach / termination is a serious deal, but let coL and M deal with that, and anyway internet bashing and defamation is a serious thing as well. Even if Stephano is 18 and very clever, he is quite young and probably not mature enough to avoid mistakes like this while making those kind of decisions. I'm sure he'll learn a lot from this and I can only hope this won't affect his level of play in a nearly future. As I said before, I think the reputation drop is enough of a punishment for him, and I can only wish him all the best in his future esports career, he imho deserves it.
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On September 20 2011 18:26 Paladia wrote:
These kinds of legal threats on the internet a few hours after the dispute arises, are highly unprofessional.
They signed a contract with an 18-year old at 3 AM, in the middle of night. The next morning, the 18 year-old wakes up and realizes that perhaps it isn't such a good idea to quit med school and move to a different country. A mistake by him for sure, and poorly done, as he tries to back out of it.
Any reasonable person would cut the guy some slack, nor would they even let an 18-year old sign a contract at 3 AM which isn't even in his own language. CoL hasn't lost anything or invested anything in Stephano, yet they immediately decide to start legal threats over the Internet. Not because there is anything to gain from it but just in an attempt to show power.
While it is poorly done by Stephano for sure, one could certainly think that a professional esports organisation would be able to handle this better. They should just have stated "Stephano decided to stay with Millenium instead" and handled the contract issues with Millenium. There is no reason to start an internet flame war over it. Legal issues should be handled with care and discreetly, not over twitter.
You don't see General Electric, Manchested United or any other professional company post legal threats on forums or on Twitter. This is despite the fact that they likely have different disputes every day. All in all, everyone just looks like an amateur in this case. I would certainly not do business with either CoL or Stephano, as they have both showcased that they are unable to handle this professionally.
If the contract was valid, then they have every right to take legal action. It would be a very bad thing for the growth of eSports if un-honored contracts were taken lightly....
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On September 20 2011 19:25 JohnMatrix wrote:
"Wait what is Complexity guilty of?"
to don't talk to millenium about stephano's on the point of signing a contract in an another team ever
Imagine EG making the same shadow move to Huk, what would be your thoughts about that?
That's the opposing party in your bidding war. Why the fuck would they be obligated to talk to them? If Millenium had no idea Complexity was bidding for Stephano then it's Stephano's fault for not informing them. I have no problem with what EG did with Huk or Puma. No law states that you HAVE to inform a rival that you are recruiting their employee. When I interview for another job I don't want the company interviewing me to call my current boss. At the end of the day you're running a business, not a daycare. Moan all you want but Complexity did nothing wrong.
What I see here is this
1. Stephano fucked up.
2. Everyone's trying to cover Stephano/Millenium's ass by grasping for weakass excuses to deflect the blame to Complexity.
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On September 20 2011 19:27 JohnMatrix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 19:26 mdpopescu wrote:
In my country, all contracts not written in the local language are void. No exceptions. (That means no EULAs can have any power, incidentally.)
I find it hard to believe that the same thing doesn't happen in France... where they are so obsessed with the language that Microsoft has to translate their whole suite to sell there.
Anybody from France who can confirm or deny this? same in france, it must be written in french as well
That's not true. A country can't just ignore international law, especially not a member of the EU.
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About signing contract at 3 AM. I wouldn't call it a psychophysical trick by Col.
Remember that we are talking about people from the US and Europe. Sadly due to the fact that Earth is round and due to some canadian guy called Sandford Fleming we have a few hour gap between the two.
Now look at the process of signing.
From player side we need only Stephano.
From Col side we need more than one representative of the board, a lawyer and god knows who else to be represented at the same time.
Would it be easier for one person to wake up in the middle of the night or more people (not to mention you future employer)?
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Since there are people who asks what Millenium's point of view is...:
Just to summarize what Lewellys, Millenium's manager, said yesterday night (Europe timezone) on stream: (updated since yesterday)
– There is indeed a signed legal document that binds Stephano and compLexity. Millenium's staff reviewed it, and told Stephano that there were loopholes in the contract, and that it didn’t comply with French labor law. Subsequently, Lewellys and Millenium's staff advised Stephano to ignore it, which he eventually did. When viewers asked what the loopholes were, he talked about one example, which was the lack of a mention of a probation period.
– Lewellys also stated that Stephano was under employment contract with Millenium, and that he was currently earning wages. It should be reminded that Stephano, who just got off high school, has decided to dedicate himself to StarCraft II for one year, therefore delaying his entry in med school.
– Lewellys stated that Stephano didn’t get a raise from Millenium in response to coL’s offer. Stephano just ignored the contract he signed with coL.
– Lewellys stated that he didn't know about coL's intentions before the announcement of the transfer on TL Forum. However, he also said that he doesn't know if other people in Millenium's staff were in contact with coL or not. He also said that Stephano told him at least one time before the announcement of the transfer that he negociated with coL, but eventually prefered to stay with Millenium.
– If he does answer to coL's mails, he would probably just advises them to talk to a French court. He stated that, quote : « if coL wanted so badly to talk with Millenium, they should have done that before the announcement of the transfer, not after. » He also said that he was confident that Millenium is covered by French law on that matters, and that he thought that if coL tried to sue Millenium in a French court, coL could even be convicted for, quote, « illegal work ».
– He doesn't plan on explaining Millenium’s reasoning to the Internet community. He made it very clear that, for him, it would be pointless, and that the community would probably forget all this drama in about two weeks.
– Contrary to Cedrix's (Millenium boss) statement (which can be found in the OP), there were no "disorienting actions" from coL. The so-called disorienting actions was that they signed the contract during the night (in Europe time zone), and that Stephano is only 18.
– Lewellys’s plans for Stephano’s future participations in international events are probably the most unclear matter. During the first part of the stream, Lwl expressed Millenium’s will to see Stephano traveling across the world to attempt to win many tournaments, from Asia to the USA (which was also Cedrix’s statement).
BUT
Near the end of the stream, Lewellys explained that, a few times ago, he got in touch with Korean organisation in order to find a way to send ToD in Korea (it was ToD’s wish, in order to be ready for WCG 2011), and that he eventually dropped his attempts because (leading ToD to part ways with Millenium), quote : « There are not as many minor tournaments in Korea as in Europe, hence the foreigners who are in Korea suffer from a lack of visibility, that’s why we didn’t do something realted to Korea ». He also made it very clear that Millenium’s primary purpose is to develop esports in France, that’s why they don’t stream their tournaments in English for instance.
Given that the two claims are contradictory, there were two understandings of Lwl’s words :
- He is indeed planning on sending Stephano in many international events, and what he said near the end of the stream was just talking on other matters, which is what the majority of French viewers understood.
Or
- He was doing some spin doctor work in the first part of the stream (by telling people what they wanting to hear, i.e. Stephano in Korea), and expressed his real views (i.e. focusing on France/Europe) in the second part of the stream.
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I don't claim that this is an exhaustive summary, as you can see some claims wasn't interpreted the same way by all viewers, but it is accurate enough to explain Millenium's reasonning on Stephano's matter.
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On September 20 2011 19:34 Ylrahc wrote:
Let's try to sum it up for those who are trying to understand something to this whole mess.
One and only thing I know about law is that common sense or wishful thinking have nothing to do with it,
As I've said before this is absolutely not true in France.
In France a contract saying one guy will pay another guy 10 Million dollars if he mows his lawn is completely illegal.
It is written in the french law that one cannot be expected to honor a contract that is clearly unreasonable.
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On September 20 2011 15:43 johnprospekt wrote:
HuK said at in interview @ IEM (Cologne i think) that oGsMC has a salary of $250,000. Idra has said on State of the game that his Salary is above $100,000 and it was rumored that HuK was offered 6 digits from EG when they picked him up. I really wouldn't be surprised if Stephano was offered around 100,000 from Complexity, looking at their sponsor list.
everything you said is wrong. lol.
also, idra once said his contract with EG is good because "he does not have to win a tournament to eat" i would not consider those the words of someone who's making 100k rotfl.
also, for whoever is posting BW salaries of top players like flash.. those do not compare at all.
are you joking ?
there is no way on earth huk is making as much as flash, please people.. stop being so retarded T.T
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What does french law have to do with someone signing a contract with an US team/employer?
And i dont even think that the contract coL offered is unreasonable at all.
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On September 20 2011 19:41 Frankon wrote:About signing contract at 3 AM. I wouldn't call it a psychophysical trick by Col. Remember that we are talking about people from the US and Europe. Sadly due to the fact that Earth is round and due to some canadian guy called Sandford Fleming we have a few hour gap between the two. Now look at the process of signing. From player side we need only Stephano. From Col side we need more than one representative of the board, a lawyer and god knows who else to be represented at the same time. Would it be easier for one person to wake up in the middle of the night or more people (not to mention you future employer)?
What's wrong with signing the contract at 7PM french time / 1PM US time ?
On September 20 2011 19:46 gTank wrote:
What does french law have to do with someone signing a contract with an US team/employer?
And i dont even think that the contract coL offered is unreasonable at all.
That's what everyone here (including lawyers) are trying to figure out... Which law applies where...
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On September 20 2011 13:53 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 13:34 Crosswind wrote:On September 20 2011 13:07 Ryder. wrote:On September 20 2011 12:30 Crosswind wrote:
Dear Citizens of the Internet,
It may shock some of you to hear that sometimes 18-year olds are inconsistent. It may amaze you that teams run by people who are largely ex-gamers and self-taught amateur businessmen may not live up to your standards of professionalism. But rest assured - this is not the first time these things have happened, and it will not be the last. Some might go so far as to say that these things happen
all the time.
Hating 18-year-olds for changing their minds or fledgling organizations for lacking professionalism is like hating a dog for chasing cars. Probably justifiable, but ultimately silly.
Smile, and cheer for Stephano, who is a fantastic and promising player, or for Mill/CoL, who are excellent teams giving young players opportunities.
-Cross Dear uninformed citizen of the internet, It may shock you to hear this but at 18 years old (at least where I live) you have full capacity to contract and you are legally bound by the terms you enter into in contracts. ... I mean if you are 18 and you commit murder you are able to be punished as an adult because you ARE an adult. Doesn't matter if you were 17 four months ago, you gotta draw the line somewhere. Sure these acts are different... teams run by people who are largely ex-gamers and self-taught amateur businessmen may not live up to your standards of professionalism. No excuse champ, if you are gonna play with the big boys then you abide by their rules. Ignorance is no excuse. Just FYI, in case you missed it, you just compared an 18 year old going back on a contract, something that it is not even clear is illegal, to murdering somebody. How much of a douchebag are you going to feel like when it turns out that what he did wasn't even illegal, so not only are you flipping out over some amateur hour teams and a kid, but you're flipping out incorrectly? A little perspective here, people. -Cross (P.S. I have no opinion on accountability. But the amount of hate going on for parties involved is disproportionate. You all are making far too much out of a bunch of commonplace, unsurprising events.) As I said, I don't know shit about French law, if they have some dodgy loopholes to help people avoid their contractual obligations good for them. But in most countries breach of contract IS illegal and you are legally obliged to either fulfill the contract or pay damages. Of course the severity of the act is nothing close to murder, why the fuck would you try and act like it is? The point is both of these actions are illegal, and you can't just let one of them go unpunished because it is less severe. As I said I am going by what is law in Australia (as well as a lot of other places). If French law lets you get out of this then fine, but the point I was addressing is that you think it's ok for 18 year olds to renege on their promises because they feel like changing their mind, and that is wrong*. *excluding gay loopholes in French lawEdit: Just because it is a 'commonplace, unsurprising event' doesn't mean there shouldn't be consequences. Show nested quote +
I want to say I'm worried that stephano hurt his image by making a silly choice, but I know people will forget in a week. I am kind of disappointed that stephano went back on his word
You can bet your ass future, prospective teams won't though... I'm sure it will factor into their decisions in the future. How aren't you banned for this yet ? :/
Also, people who are saying that you can evade contractual obligations under French law are starting to get annoying. As a general rule, you can't. Someone said you have seven days to change your mind about buying a house : that is true, but is an exception. This provision, known as droit de repentir (right to renege ?), only applies to a set of specific contracts, of which buying a house is one, but Stephano's contract certainly is not. A related clause, known as période d'essai (trial period ?), can be specified in employment cotnracts, but it is not mandatory nor implicit.
The only way for Stephano to evade his contractual obligations with coL is if the contract is deemed illegal in the first place. While it certainly doesn't qualify as a proper employment contract under French law (for numerous reasons - coL even somewhat admitted to this), it is designed as an international contract, and it may very well be legal as such, especially under Texan law (which it defines as its ruling law).
The last issue here is enforceability. If the contract is deemed legal by the Texan judge (which is very likely), and the French judge deems it an illegal employment contract (which is also very likely), then the contract will be null on French soil. What can be done if, and when, Stephano sets foot in the US, is another matter.
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How did He "just sign a contract at 3m and woke up to regret it"?
Isn't it supposed to be a bit of paper with a signature involved somehow? Did he post the contract to col in the middle of the night, or is this just talk about a digital picture of a contract that might not exist anymore?
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On September 20 2011 19:43 Geiko wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 19:34 Ylrahc wrote:
Let's try to sum it up for those who are trying to understand something to this whole mess.
One and only thing I know about law is that common sense or wishful thinking have nothing to do with it, As I've said before this is absolutely not true in France. In France a contract saying one guy will pay another guy 10 Million dollars if he mows his lawn is completely illegal. It is written in the french law that one cannot be expected to honor a contract that is clearly unreasonable.
Yes my dear, you said it yourself, it is written. Thus it is not common sense or wishful thinking per se, it is the law itself explaining that in some cases common sense can be taken into account. It is a very important distinction : if the law didn't mention common sense could be taken into account, your example would be false.
For further details about french law, you should go to www.maitre-eolas.fr 
The last issue here is enforceability. If the contract is deemed legal by the Texan judge (which is very likely), and the French judge deems it an illegal employment contract (which is also very likely), then the contract will be null on French soil. What can be done if, and when, Stephano sets foot in the US, is another matter.
This is indeed what will most likely happen. I hope M & coL can come to an agreement to avoid this to allow Stephano to play on US soil though.
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On September 20 2011 19:34 D.Devil wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 19:27 JohnMatrix wrote:On September 20 2011 19:26 mdpopescu wrote:
In my country, all contracts not written in the local language are void. No exceptions. (That means no EULAs can have any power, incidentally.)
I find it hard to believe that the same thing doesn't happen in France... where they are so obsessed with the language that Microsoft has to translate their whole suite to sell there.
Anybody from France who can confirm or deny this? same in france, it must be written in french as well That's not true. A country can't just ignore international law, especially not a member of the EU.
International law is very weak. National laws can easily "override" anything another party tries to envoke.
Bottom line is if we ever want these contracts to actually matter we need an international sc2 organization for all pro teams or national ones that can meet and agree to terms. Enforcing these contracts in the current state would be difficult at best, impossible at worst (probably closer to the truth).
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On September 20 2011 19:34 Horse...falcon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 19:25 JohnMatrix wrote:
"Wait what is Complexity guilty of?"
to don't talk to millenium about stephano's on the point of signing a contract in an another team ever
Imagine EG making the same shadow move to Huk, what would be your thoughts about that? That's the opposing party in your bidding war. Why the fuck would they be obligated to talk to them? If Millenium had no idea Complexity was bidding for Stephano then it's Stephano's fault for not informing them. I have no problem with what EG did with Huk or Puma. No law states that you HAVE to inform a rival that you are recruiting their employee. When I interview for another job I don't want the company interviewing me to call my current boss. At the end of the day you're running a business, not a daycare. Moan all you want but Complexity did nothing wrong. What I see here is this 1. Stephano fucked up. 2. Everyone's trying to cover Stephano/Millenium's ass by grasping for weakass excuses to deflect the blame to Complexity.
That's funny, because all I see is people siding with the butthurt lawyer and demonizing the horrible french turncoats.
1. is correct though, but I'm not sure why anyone would expect some random naive 18 year old kid that's pretty damn good at starcraft to know what to do under the circumstances.
On September 20 2011 19:51 gruff wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 19:34 D.Devil wrote:On September 20 2011 19:27 JohnMatrix wrote:On September 20 2011 19:26 mdpopescu wrote:
In my country, all contracts not written in the local language are void. No exceptions. (That means no EULAs can have any power, incidentally.)
I find it hard to believe that the same thing doesn't happen in France... where they are so obsessed with the language that Microsoft has to translate their whole suite to sell there.
Anybody from France who can confirm or deny this? same in france, it must be written in french as well That's not true. A country can't just ignore international law, especially not a member of the EU. International law is very weak. National laws can easily "override" anything another party tries to envoke. Bottom line is if we ever want these contracts to actually matter we need an international sc2 organization for all pro teams or national ones that can meet and agree to terms. Enforcing these contracts in the current state would be difficult at best, impossible at worst (probably closer to the truth).
lol I'll be having nightmares about this international scale kespa bureaucracy organ
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On September 20 2011 19:34 D.Devil wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 19:27 JohnMatrix wrote:On September 20 2011 19:26 mdpopescu wrote:
In my country, all contracts not written in the local language are void. No exceptions. (That means no EULAs can have any power, incidentally.)
I find it hard to believe that the same thing doesn't happen in France... where they are so obsessed with the language that Microsoft has to translate their whole suite to sell there.
Anybody from France who can confirm or deny this? same in france, it must be written in french as well That's not true. A country can't just ignore international law, especially not a member of the EU.
i guess you know this very well since your organisation already scammed a couple of players in hoorai 
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On September 20 2011 19:49 Jiddra wrote:
How did He "just sign a contract at 3m and woke up to regret it"?
Isn't it supposed to be a bit of paper with a signature involved somehow? Did he post the contract to col in the middle of the night, or is this just talk about a digital picture of a contract that might not exist anymore?
Was wondering this as well. Was someone from Col there in person? Did he fax it? Was it more of a verbal "I agree to this" kind of deal?
From below:
On September 20 2011 19:57 cost2010 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 19:56 nam nam wrote:On September 20 2011 19:49 Jiddra wrote:
How did He "just sign a contract at 3m and woke up to regret it"?
Isn't it supposed to be a bit of paper with a signature involved somehow? Did he post the contract to col in the middle of the night, or is this just talk about a digital picture of a contract that might not exist anymore? Was wondering this as well. Was someone from Col there in person? Did he fax it? Was it more of a verbal "I agree to this" kind of deal? according to Col they used a specialized web-service: http://www.docusign.com/
Thanks.
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On September 20 2011 19:56 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 19:49 Jiddra wrote:
How did He "just sign a contract at 3m and woke up to regret it"?
Isn't it supposed to be a bit of paper with a signature involved somehow? Did he post the contract to col in the middle of the night, or is this just talk about a digital picture of a contract that might not exist anymore? Was wondering this as well. Was someone from Col there in person? Did he fax it? Was it more of a verbal "I agree to this" kind of deal?
according to Col they used a specialized web-service: http://www.docusign.com/
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On September 20 2011 19:53 hifriend wrote:
lol I'll be having nightmares about this international scale kespa bureaucracy organ
What international organization doesn't give us nightmares? 
Still we need them at times. Might be other smaller-scale solutions though.
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they should cut Stephano in half and give each a piece
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