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On June 07 2012 06:41 Hyaach wrote:
I would like a third party to flip through Toad's filter because he claim to answer me three times but i can't find it.
And if its 3 times today, it does not count.

I'm fine with Maju and Manason. Manason moreso tho.

On June 07 2012 07:57 Probulous wrote:


Why does it matter to you? Either you think Toad is scum (in which case give us a reasonable scenario where this is possible) or you are digging for useless information and discrediting Toad for no reason.

If you think Toad is town, than tell me why this information is so important to you?

On June 06 2012 17:17 EchelonTee wrote:
About the whole "there needs to be veterans in scum team" or whatever.

I spam that because it's important to be aware of the possibilty, and not to be complacent, but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. In MTG mafia recently, it was Navilus, Katina, HiroPro, and Zealos. They are competent players sure, but WBG and VE were both town, yet fought at lot under a pretense that balance dictated their opposal. Another example is SoaF, where scum team was myself, gonzaw, Bluelightz, and cccalf, vs. VE and BH. You don't NEED a scum vet; it's just a possibility.

Anyways, if we're talking scum vets, I'm leaning Wiggles at this point. Why is he so hilariously AWOL? Are you busy or something?

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It's appearing that the greatest consensus is towards killing Manason. There is no medic counter claim, so I do not want to lynch kita right now. Like someone mentioned, if probe+another dies, then we lynch Kita. If probe doesn't die (or kita dies) then his claim is truer. If Probe dies alone, then it's null. Either way, the path of least risk is to not lynch kita, and his actions are decently explainable at times. He's mostly been wishy washy/not scumhunting that hard, but then again we were all wrong about VE, weren't we?

I want another mason in the circle to claim by tomorrow day, at the latest. I have a sneaking fear that MZ is doing a crazy ass mafia plan with toad. If another mason claims to be part of the circle, then I will no longer have to consider that fear as deeply.

There a million possibilities or WIFOM, blue fake claims, etc etc, but the least risky proposition right now is to leave kita, and lynch elsewhere. Since Manason has claimed scum a few times, let's continue lynching down the line.

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##Vote: Manason

On June 06 2012 19:57 Toadesstern wrote:

I haven't read those games but yeah if there's only few vets in the game there won't be mafia vets most times and you make it look like there were few vets in those games. If there's 2 or less vets in general it's usually no mafia vet. About 1/3 or 1/4 of vets usually "should be" mafia. If you don't even have 3 or 4 vets in a game a mafia vet would be "imba" because they shoot the other town vet n1 and instantly win the game that way. Just look at WoF and what happened after Rad and I died... 3 fucking nolynches in a row (kind of, a mislynch inbetween because town was furstrated) because noone knew what to do anymore with Rad and myself being dead.

It's a bit tricky because WBGs C9++ games tend to be completly true randomized for example and so are other games but most people see to it that it's even vet-vise.

So basicly I completly disagree. We NEED a scumvet. There's no way greymist will make a game that is 6 newbies vs Toadesstern, Supersoft, Mr. Wiggles, Forumite, kitaman27, VisceraEyes, (Kenpachi) and all of them are town.
Yes I know foru flipped 3rd party but as far as I understood it was town favored 3rd party and we're still missing the mafia favored 3rd party.
Especially with WBG replacing in as town as well.

On June 06 2012 23:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually screw everything I said about myself, about austin or about kita. We're NOT lynching kita today.

I have the most awesome plans of them all to combine all of our problems.
Kita claimed medic and mafia already lost their RB.
Here's the plan

• Lynch someone who's nick is not kita (right now it looks like mana although I'd prefer maju)
  
• I call out who I will mason at the very beginning of the night, OPENLY and I will choose to most townish looking guy around.
  
• If kita is a town medic he will medic that dude no matter what.
  

Either way we're good.:

• If the dude survives because they went for 2 other guys I'm not only confirmed but also mod-confirmed townie while kita remains the same as before. At the same time mafia went for 2 people who are looking not so townish which I am totally fine with.
  
• If the dude gets hit by one shot and kita saved him Kita's good and and I am mod-confirmed although that's not going to happen because no way mafia is that stupid.
  
• If the dude gets doublestacked Kita remains the same as before, will claim he mediced him no matter if he's town or mafia. I am still confirmed town just not mod-confirmed but we lost 1 townie instead of 2. I am very much liking that scenario as well.
  
• If we see 2 people dead and one of them is the dude kita was suppossed to protect / I masoned he's a goner.

Can anyone see drawbacks to that plan? I like it very much atm because we're probably going to maka mafia shoot into people they don't want to shoot or make them doublestack when they don't want to.

On June 07 2012 06:41 Hyaach wrote:
I would like a third party to flip through Toad's filter because he claim to answer me three times but i can't find it.
And if its 3 times today, it does not count.

I'm fine with Maju and Manason. Manason moreso tho.