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On January 28 2012 06:13 slOosh wrote: @Sacred Mafia know each other as soon as they received their pm.
Sacred, what are your responses to my two questions?
thank you and im still thinking
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The you in that post is slOosh
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On January 28 2012 05:09 slOosh wrote: Are people not talking because they don't know what to talk about?
How about this. Answer these two questions - Name one person who you think is town and why. - Name one person who you think is mafia and why.
Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade - answer the question. All the rest of us have been pretty active and so instead of answering this ourselves we should pressure the lurkers. By withholding our own answers, we can put these guys in the spotlight.
There are 7 hours left in the night. Post or warrant more suspicion on yourselves. Town have nothing to fear, and much to gain by posting.
List of haven't posted yet: Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade.
Well I'm back from school so here goes nothing.
I think simberto is the most town because he has posted many posts, usually with good content a la getting people to post, analyzing, etc. He is very active, although not so much tonight as he has been while I've been gone before.
I think sacredsystem is mafia, or at least appears to be the most mafia right now. Definitely suspicious. The most suspicious part is that his posts are confusing- if anyone calls him out on them for a scumslip he could try to explain it away by interpreting his posts. Then again, he may just be trying to be concise with his posts, and they do generally have a good message. I'm just not sure about him. Zellblade has been suspicious to me for the whole game, as has zarepath.
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On January 27 2012 10:42 CosmosXAM wrote: In a case where a larger group of 2-4 people strongly defend a person while simultaneously attack another seems to me like a deflection that could be very well employed by a mafia helping a friend: they bring attention off their ally and put pressure on someone who isnt. Now even if it isn't a larger group like that you would think that a person known by the mafia to be mafia would at least be defended a little. I am seeing a some strong similarities in posts and opinions and some alliances showing their faces, I would advise everyone to re-read some posts by both zarepath and DoYouHas. I noticed that their later posts have striking similarities and that they both seem to just pick targets together, first with zelblade and now with me, and they attacked us while in most cases defending someone else in both cases FakePromise and in DoYouHas's case zarepath. To me this seems very scummy and I stand 100% by my vote on zarepath as of this point. I am inclined to believe that Zarepath and DoYouHas are townies who are independently coming to the same conclusions using logic, analysis etc. For instance if both of them see an attack built on questionable logic by player A on player B, it makes sense that they defend B and suspect A as they see the logic is flawed.
I also picked zelblade as a target with them. I also have shifted to believing that Zarepath is not mafia, or in the very least not anti-town. I display the same behavior for which you are suspicious of Zarepath. Yet you think I am town and Zarepath is mafia.
Care to explain?
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Thank you people who have posted. This is helps us alot.
Please limit your choice to ONE person only. (I.e. one town and one mafia). Naming more makes it difficult to discern your stance and lets mafia get away with weakly pointing at people that other people are pointing at.
List of haven't posted yet (in bold) Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade.
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On January 28 2012 06:30 Chocolate wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 05:09 slOosh wrote: Are people not talking because they don't know what to talk about?
How about this. Answer these two questions - Name one person who you think is town and why. - Name one person who you think is mafia and why.
Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade - answer the question. All the rest of us have been pretty active and so instead of answering this ourselves we should pressure the lurkers. By withholding our own answers, we can put these guys in the spotlight.
There are 7 hours left in the night. Post or warrant more suspicion on yourselves. Town have nothing to fear, and much to gain by posting.
List of haven't posted yet: Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade.
Well I'm back from school so here goes nothing. I think simberto is the most town because he has posted many posts, usually with good content a la getting people to post, analyzing, etc. He is very active, although not so much tonight as he has been while I've been gone before. I think sacredsystem is mafia, or at least appears to be the most mafia right now. Definitely suspicious. The most suspicious part is that his posts are confusing- if anyone calls him out on them for a scumslip he could try to explain it away by interpreting his posts. Then again, he may just be trying to be concise with his posts, and they do generally have a good message. I'm just not sure about him. Zellblade has been suspicious to me for the whole game, as has zarepath.
Please provide one quote of his in which he does this and show how you come to this conclusion. I want to see you do it, instead of doing it for you. Pick only one mafia suspect.
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On January 28 2012 06:20 SacredSystem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 06:13 slOosh wrote: @Sacred Mafia know each other as soon as they received their pm.
Sacred, what are your responses to my two questions?
thank you and im still thinking
The longer you take to post, the more suspicions cast upon you.
Town are always thinking of who could be town who could be mafia as they start with 0 information Mafia do not since they already have the information.
Post.
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Also, to the active players on the list, could you please give me a confirmation if you are here and able to post? (Just say, "Here" or something. Please chime in if you see really faulty logic or see posts that try to evade the question. However keep suspicions and suspects to yourself for now.)
Day is approaching. We have 5 hours. Sacred I'm still waiting on you and you look less credible as time goes on. Delaying is something only mafia do as they want to get their plan straightened out. Town should already have stuff in mind.
Post.
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if zarepath was mafia he would have know that fakepromise was town and it would have been very easy for him to justify killing of FP, so then why not kill him?
however i am most suspicious of zelblade, he has spent the vast majority of the time apologizing for his noobiness and hasnt giving a good justification as to why he isnt mafia
also what does this even mean?????
I think sacredsystem is mafia, or at least appears to be the most mafia right now. Definitely suspicious. The most suspicious part is that his posts are confusing- if anyone calls him out on them for a scumslip he could try to explain it away by interpreting his posts. Then again, he may just be trying to be concise with his posts, and they do generally have a good message. I'm just not sure about him.
also in the rest of your post you accuse 3 ppl without actually being conclusive about anything, ie oh hes mafia because i am suspicious you entire post seems as though it has been set up to mislead people and you keep attacking me for being confusing, yet my posts havnt been confusing at all you havent contributed to any investigations you jumped on the fakepromise vote and you accuse me based off of nothing
so now tell me why would you not be mafia?
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also what does this even mean????? I think sacredsystem is mafia, or at least appears to be the most mafia right now. Definitely suspicious. The most suspicious part is that his posts are confusing- if anyone calls him out on them for a scumslip he could try to explain it away by interpreting his posts. Then again, he may just be trying to be concise with his posts, and they do generally have a good message. I'm just not sure about him.
also in the rest of your post you accuse 3 ppl without actually being conclusive about anything, ie oh hes mafia because i am suspicious you entire post seems as though it has been set up to mislead people and you keep attacking me for being confusing, yet my posts havnt been confusing at all you havent contributed to any investigations you jumped on the fakepromise vote and you accuse me based off of nothing
so now tell me why would you not be mafia?
that was all directed at chocolate
and since zelblade has been suspicious of chocolate this whole time maybe he all of his apologies are just the result of him being a noob
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On January 28 2012 06:57 SacredSystem wrote:if zarepath was mafia he would have know that fakepromise was town and it would have been very easy for him to justify killing of FP, so then why not kill him? however i am most suspicious of zelblade, he has spent the vast majority of the time apologizing for his noobiness and hasnt giving a good justification as to why he isnt mafia also what does this even mean????? Show nested quote + I think sacredsystem is mafia, or at least appears to be the most mafia right now. Definitely suspicious. The most suspicious part is that his posts are confusing- if anyone calls him out on them for a scumslip he could try to explain it away by interpreting his posts. Then again, he may just be trying to be concise with his posts, and they do generally have a good message. I'm just not sure about him. also in the rest of your post you accuse 3 ppl without actually being conclusive about anything, ie oh hes mafia because i am suspicious you entire post seems as though it has been set up to mislead people and you keep attacking me for being confusing, yet my posts havnt been confusing at all you havent contributed to any investigations you jumped on the fakepromise vote and you accuse me based off of nothing so now tell me why would you not be mafia?
Please do not defend yourself and start arguments and clutter the thread.
Please only post 1 mafia suspect.
Please also post 1 person who you think is town.
Straying from format is disruptive and unhelpful. You look suspicious for not following the plan. Please stay on course. We are collecting data. Arguments hinder collection.
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I'm here. Will be for another hour or so, and then maybe I only have time to check once tonight.
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On January 28 2012 06:41 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 06:30 Chocolate wrote:On January 28 2012 05:09 slOosh wrote: Are people not talking because they don't know what to talk about?
How about this. Answer these two questions - Name one person who you think is town and why. - Name one person who you think is mafia and why.
Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade - answer the question. All the rest of us have been pretty active and so instead of answering this ourselves we should pressure the lurkers. By withholding our own answers, we can put these guys in the spotlight.
There are 7 hours left in the night. Post or warrant more suspicion on yourselves. Town have nothing to fear, and much to gain by posting.
List of haven't posted yet: Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade.
Well I'm back from school so here goes nothing. I think simberto is the most town because he has posted many posts, usually with good content a la getting people to post, analyzing, etc. He is very active, although not so much tonight as he has been while I've been gone before. I think sacredsystem is mafia, or at least appears to be the most mafia right now. Definitely suspicious. The most suspicious part is that his posts are confusing- if anyone calls him out on them for a scumslip he could try to explain it away by interpreting his posts. Then again, he may just be trying to be concise with his posts, and they do generally have a good message. I'm just not sure about him. Zellblade has been suspicious to me for the whole game, as has zarepath. Please provide one quote of his in which he does this and show how you come to this conclusion. I want to see you do it, instead of doing it for you. Pick only one mafia suspect. I presume you mean SS.
He is confusing in his word choice and spelling in all of his posts but I guess this one is a good example.
On January 26 2012 10:34 SacredSystem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 09:04 CosmosXAM wrote:On January 26 2012 08:27 SacredSystem wrote: ## vote: FakePromise 1: you gotta vote in the voting thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306091and 2: I find it a bit odd your jump from On January 25 2012 14:55 SacredSystem wrote: However, despite several conclusions that we all wish to draw, we need to wait, the mafia will all expose themselves at some point in time.
on a side note Fakepromise agreed with him at 30% odds -_-
to straight up voting for him, I mean sure he now has two votes going for him but you said that you wanted to wait for more information and based on him only posting once and your points about him just being copy&paste what other people had said earlier and not offering any new information or opinions I find your vote to be very bandwagon-ey. I am not trying to say that you are mafia or to go as far as that but just pointing out that simply copying what others say and blindly agreeing is very suspicious. i was saying that we shouldnt make wild assumuptions based on inconclusive logic traps, which many of you were doing also if you arnt saying anything, then dont say it now fakepromise made a decision which doenst make much sense from the townes perspective, now im not assuming anything in sayin that, which is why im voting for fakepromise as mafiasorry i forgot about the voting thread The bolded part isthe most confusing because he says he is not assuming anything from his post about mafia odds but then says that's why he is voting for FP as mafia.
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chocolate is mafia simberto is town
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Chocolate and Cosmos, I am still waiting for your responses. One post does not remove your lurker label. As I keep reiterating, town has much to gain by sharing information.
We have all day tomorrow - 48 hours - to lynch. That is enough time to form analysis and argue. We have 5 hours to collect information. The focus is collecting information.
I want to do it before day comes as to provide our blues with the most information possible. I trust in their judgement, and so more information just helps them make better choices at protecting etc.
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I just posted again
Also SS please explain your reasoning; I have explained mine and it is nowhere near conclusive, meaning that i'm not very certain your are mafia, just that you are the best candidate in my eyes right now to be one.
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On January 28 2012 07:10 SacredSystem wrote: chocolate is mafia simberto is town
You initially picked Zelblade and zarepath before that. Are you sticking with zelblade? Ignore Chocolate as your defensive backlash clutters the thread, and hinders our information process.
Also give a reason why you think Simberto is town.
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On January 28 2012 07:15 Chocolate wrote: I just posted again
Also SS please explain your reasoning; I have explained mine and it is nowhere near conclusive, meaning that i'm not very certain your are mafia, just that you are the best candidate in my eyes right now to be one.
Thank you for posting. However, SS please do not explain your reasoning against Chocolate at this time. We do not want a SS vs Chocolate argument derailing the information gathering plan.
The highest priority right now is getting information into our blue's hands.
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Sl0osh, please don't attack them for breaking your format. If getting lurkers truly involved is your goal, having a couple of them start arguing is exactly what we want. It is not like a few posts are going to distract you from the people remaining who haven't posted. You are cutting off a potential source of information.
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On January 28 2012 07:18 DoYouHas wrote: Sl0osh, please don't attack them for breaking your format. If getting lurkers truly involved is your goal, having a couple of them start arguing is exactly what we want. It is not like a few posts are going to distract you from the people remaining who haven't posted. You are cutting off a potential source of information. You are right, thank you.
Can I ask how long / frequently you will be on till day?
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