|
On June 08 2011 02:12 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:10 DropBear wrote:Still having net troubles. I haven't actually read the last like 20 pages cos it take too long for them to load  . Our download quota resets tomorrow (hopefully) so will be able to read up properly then. Can someone summarise for me very quickly why Palmar is a major lynch target? I still don't trust bum. He shot chaos13. Lied about his role, twice, once to secure an extra kp, so he could shoot again tonight. Then he claimed assassin, and offered to "ally" with the town. He is scum to the core, and he is busing his buddy bum so the mafia can have an extra KP tonight.
Mine was much more summarized than yours. 
|
On June 08 2011 02:10 DropBear wrote:Still having net troubles. I haven't actually read the last like 20 pages cos it take too long for them to load . Our download quota resets tomorrow (hopefully) so will be able to read up properly then. Can someone summarise for me very quickly why Palmar is a major lynch target? I still don't trust bum.
Horrible town play, called himself the greenest person here because he killed a mole (obv scum move), continuously lied, killed the only DT-type role that we know of, now claims to be an assassin (This could also be a lie, I doubt there's five 3rd parties in this game).
It's either him or bum.
If we don't lynch bum now, we will always be wondering if he lied about his role and we will have to waste tomorrow's lynch on him.
If we don't lynch Palmar, we will kill bum, find out his alignment, and there's a huge possibility that Palmar will die tonight. If Palmar isn't killed by assassins, Karshe's bomb will get him.
My vote stays on bum.
|
Oh wait, I´m not dead yet^^
I was somehow in the mind of having died in both mafia games.
So first things first
Karshe bombs Palmar tonight.
If P really is assassin, you will get it back because he is dead at daybreak.
Barundar, if you keep your vote on someone you don´t want to lynch, we have to assume you gain Role powers by voting. Very suspicious.
Don´t forget he did this after tonight.
About Sinani
If I remember correctly, his role was confirmed night1. Don´t remember who exactly. I will reread in a short bit.
Also lol GMarshal^^
"The mysterious cult leader killed someone." Very secretive if everyone knows who you are^^ lmao
The thing with bussing is, it only works if people don´t want to kill you anyway.
Who THE HELL "knows" that Bum has no kp anymore?
It´s an assumption at best. Remember that no one ever can confirm his role?
Also who THE HELL believes Kurumi when he says "I shot Kita becaaaaause.......I was angry, ya"
We are missing the scumteam kp from last night.
Mysteriously the whole scumteam was roleblocked or someone was saved with neither the savior nor the saved claiming. How about the SK with only 2 shots didn´t shoot a second time?
I bet my money on Kurumi lying.
Also thanks for the advise to bomb mr bulletproof, way to waste our towns resources.
How gullible do you think is this town?
To me, the course of action is clear.
1. Bum gets lynched
2. Palmar gets an explosive necklace
3. I die
4. Nobody listens to Kurumis "advice"
Also I find this fricking hilarious+ Show Spoiler +On June 08 2011 01:48 Palmar wrote:Do it yourself. Killing me today is stupid. Are you guys honestly suggesting the mafia plan looked something like this? -> Step 1: Bus the mole, get town cred LIKE A BOSS-> Step 2: Help lynch Wiggles, knowing bum is in trouble LIKE A BOSS-> Step 3: Kill a cop, claim the kill, and lose every fucking gram of town cred we have LIKE A BOSS-> Step 4: Claim assassin, bus Bum anyway, cause that's how I roll. LIKE A BOSS-> Step 5: Get killed LIKE A BOSS4 mafia down, go us! This is not what will happen if I flip. All you will end up with is a wasted lynch, and Bumatlarge still alive.
Also no bad feelings for the bomb, Karshe. I would probably shoot myself, if I was someone else.
|
United States22154 Posts
On June 08 2011 02:15 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:10 DropBear wrote:Still having net troubles. I haven't actually read the last like 20 pages cos it take too long for them to load . Our download quota resets tomorrow (hopefully) so will be able to read up properly then. Can someone summarise for me very quickly why Palmar is a major lynch target? I still don't trust bum. Horrible town play, called himself the greenest person here because he killed a mole (obv scum move), continuously lied, killed the only DT-type role that we know of, now claims to be an assassin (This could also be a lie, I doubt there's five 3rd parties in this game). It's either him or bum. If we don't lynch bum now, we will always be wondering if he lied about his role and we will have to waste tomorrow's lynch on him. If we don't lynch Palmar, we will kill bum, find out his alignment, and there's a huge possibility that Palmar will die tonight. If Palmar isn't killed by assassins, Karshe's bomb will get him. My vote stays on bum.
Both are scum. One gives them a kp for the night, the other doesn't. I'm not going to be wondering about bum's role, I know he is scum and lied about what it is.
There is no possibility Palmar will die tonight, because there are no assassins in the game! if there were three assassins one would have assuredly flipped by now with 10 or so deaths, don't you think? He is claiming assassin because he thinks he can do it safely. Why don't we lynch Palmar and bomb scumatlarge? That way we both deny the KP, get to kill bum *and* have a lynch left over for our roleblocking friend torte de lini!
|
It seems I can't quote either 
Why is shooting a mole an obvious scum play? It'd be very stupid scum play. A lynch vote for a scumbuddy is one thing, using a KP on him is something else entirely. If he's an assassin the Varpuli kill makes perfect sense. Vote staying on bum.
|
On June 08 2011 02:09 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 01:57 GMarshal wrote:On June 08 2011 01:48 Palmar wrote:Do it yourself. Killing me today is stupid. Are you guys honestly suggesting the mafia plan looked something like this? -> Step 1: Bus the mole, get town cred -> Step 2: Help lynch Wiggles, knowing bum is in trouble -> Step 3: Kill a cop, claim the kill, and lose every fucking gram of town cred we have -> Step 4: Claim assassin, bus Bum anyway, cause that's how I roll. -> Step 5: Get killed 4 mafia down, go us! This is not what will happen if I flip. All you will end up with is a wasted lynch, and Bumatlarge still alive. Actually its more like. Step 1: FUCK, mole is uber DT. I have to kill it! Might as well make the best of a shitty situation and get some cred. Step 2: Fuck, a red dt check. Have to bus. No choice. Step 3: I think I have enough cred to get away with killing a town DT, let me try it. Step 4: SHIT, they weren't as fucking stupid as I thought... I guess I have to bus bum as hard as humanly possible so I can still deal some damaged. Step 5: Well, it looks like they might actually get me lynched. SK claim sort of worked for my useless buddy bum, assassin would have been better though, I'm pretty sure there are no assassins in the game, let me try that. Step 6: Shoot townies at night, claim bus, mind control, or just "playing to my win condition", town can barely lynch me That sounds much more like what happened. Palmar, I wanna see your counter-argument to this.
Gladly.
First, does the mafia actually know the role of the mole? Or just his alignment. If it's only the alignment, then well.. your entire first part is down the drain. Dec, can you clarify?.
All I will answer is his step 3.
Why didn't I just say that I got roleblocked, (just like GMarshal himself did ) and retain my town cred, while still getting rid of the DT. The mafia kill is STILL not accounted for.
Step 2 I agree with, even the mafia had to bus him.
Step 5: Well yeah, I thought I was about to get lynched so I claimed. When I claimed I hoped for better reactions, like people actually wanting to keep me alive to keep other assassins in check. But I guess I'll die tonight.
Do not waste a lynch on me.
Only good thing to come out of it is that it will paint a very interesting picture for the town.
|
On June 08 2011 02:21 DropBear wrote:It seems I can't quote either Why is shooting a mole an obvious scum play? It'd be very stupid scum play. A lynch vote for a scumbuddy is one thing, using a KP on him is something else entirely. If he's an assassin the Varpuli kill makes perfect sense. Vote staying on bum.
PYPI. Gmarshal is our Mole. Helps town a lot. Makes us lose the game.
|
Mafia were told the name of the mole(s) but not role
|
On June 08 2011 02:21 DropBear wrote:It seems I can't quote either Why is shooting a mole an obvious scum play? It'd be very stupid scum play. A lynch vote for a scumbuddy is one thing, using a KP on him is something else entirely. If he's an assassin the Varpuli kill makes perfect sense. Vote staying on bum.
Gain town cred, duhh.
And that was the only thing Palmar was using to make himself appear town.
|
On June 08 2011 02:25 deconduo wrote:
Mafia were told the name of the mole(s) but not role
Doesn't stop them from having a member who picked role for Varpulis 
|
GM
So you completely discarded the possibilty that Bum might be 3rd party, but use him as 3rd party together with Kurumi to rule out assassins to be in the game?
1 SK, 3 Assassins.
If you don´t discard this possibility, you just said:
"We know this one guy who probably has kp and is bulletproof and then this other guy who has kp for sure. Lets lynch the guy without bulletproof, then use 1 kp on the bulletproof guy and curse in the morning when he didn´t die."
:7 
|
On June 08 2011 02:26 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:21 DropBear wrote:It seems I can't quote either Why is shooting a mole an obvious scum play? It'd be very stupid scum play. A lynch vote for a scumbuddy is one thing, using a KP on him is something else entirely. If he's an assassin the Varpuli kill makes perfect sense. Vote staying on bum. Gain town cred, duhh. And that was the only thing Palmar was using to make himself appear town.
That, my entire posting history, and the fact I claimed the chaos13 kill.
Whatever, lynching me is stupid, I tried my best.
|
On June 08 2011 02:20 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:15 Cthsazsa wrote:On June 08 2011 02:10 DropBear wrote:Still having net troubles. I haven't actually read the last like 20 pages cos it take too long for them to load . Our download quota resets tomorrow (hopefully) so will be able to read up properly then. Can someone summarise for me very quickly why Palmar is a major lynch target? I still don't trust bum. Horrible town play, called himself the greenest person here because he killed a mole (obv scum move), continuously lied, killed the only DT-type role that we know of, now claims to be an assassin (This could also be a lie, I doubt there's five 3rd parties in this game). It's either him or bum. If we don't lynch bum now, we will always be wondering if he lied about his role and we will have to waste tomorrow's lynch on him. If we don't lynch Palmar, we will kill bum, find out his alignment, and there's a huge possibility that Palmar will die tonight. If Palmar isn't killed by assassins, Karshe's bomb will get him. My vote stays on bum. Both are scum. One gives them a kp for the night, the other doesn't.
This is what's sitting in my head at the moment as well... if we're set on killing Palmar with my bomb anyway, why wait through the night and allow him another killshot?
|
United States22154 Posts
You know what. Fuck it all. You guys don't want to see it. Fine.
When Palmar shoots yet another townie tonight we can all "ohh" and "ahh" about how it turns out he wasn't the assassin, bonus points if bums powers turn out to be something like "can, once per game, track a player"
I'm done arguing with this rubbish town. You guys are getting played like the town got played in Insane 2 by Kav.
Props to you Palmar, your scum play is every bit as good as it was in SNMMII.
Oh, and without knowing if there were watchers or trackers in play you had no choice but to claim the chaos13 kill, its simple logic, you'd rather claim an anti-town action you think you can get away with then risk being caught by a DT.
As I said, I'm done arguing, Palmar is as much of an assassin as I am the tzar of russia and as much as bum is a serial killer.
|
Kurumi, what on earth did you just say? You sound like EQUES
|
I am with GM on this one.
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar
Reasoning: We want both Bum and Palmar to die, there's no reason to let Palmar live through the night and risk him killing another townie. I will plant my bomb on Bum who seems just as scummy, but less risk.
|
On June 08 2011 02:30 DropBear wrote:
Kurumi, what on earth did you just say? You sound like EQUES
EQUES? I provided evidence why would Palmar kill Varpulis earlier. Go read it. In short:
Bum is "Godfather" says Varpulis alive is more of a harm than dead(even as a mole) orders Palmar to kill Varpulis,SHAZZAM. Bum has no role. He lost it when Batman died,think.
|
Barundar, if you keep your vote on someone you don´t want to lynch, we have to assume you gain Role powers by voting. Very suspicious.
Don´t forget he did this after tonight.
What? Could someone translate this please? TDL is by far the best lynch today. While either bum or kurumi might be scum, I'm way more certain TDL is scum. I place my vote where I think scum is, not where someone else tells me to. And my role has nothing to do with where I vote lol.
|
Kurumi should read palmar. Why do I keep mixing up those 2 names
|
On June 08 2011 02:20 Mataza wrote:
Who THE HELL "knows" that Bum has no kp anymore?
It´s an assumption at best. Remember that no one ever can confirm his role?
^^This
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
