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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 20 2011 03:52 GMT
#2401
On December 20 2011 12:41 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
who is more of a terror at low elo - akali or shaco?


I can't speak for US or anything, but on EUW shaco is currently permaban between 1400-1800. If he's picked, he wrecks games. So, yeah. Shaco all day. =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
December 20 2011 03:59 GMT
#2402
anyone else lagging tonight? just had a game where everyone in it was having 1 sec lag. for myself, the game said i had a 30 ping.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 04:15:06
December 20 2011 04:14 GMT
#2403
yeah, I had a game with some 3 or so lag spikes for everyone. all of a sudden the chat would just fill with "omg lag wtf"
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 20 2011 04:17 GMT
#2404
Is it just me, or is tanky dps too strong in lower levels? Yeah, yeah, I know there's a QQ thread, but at what point do you learn to counter them/deal with it? What tips do you have for 4 tanky dps and one massive nuker or support? Even with a normal team comp, it seems like you can't tear through their health or push them back fast enough to win.

I bad, plz help
It's your boy Guzma!
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
December 20 2011 04:24 GMT
#2405
vayne l0l
GANDHISAUCE
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 20 2011 04:25 GMT
#2406
On December 20 2011 13:17 Requizen wrote:
Is it just me, or is tanky dps too strong in lower levels? Yeah, yeah, I know there's a QQ thread, but at what point do you learn to counter them/deal with it? What tips do you have for 4 tanky dps and one massive nuker or support? Even with a normal team comp, it seems like you can't tear through their health or push them back fast enough to win.

I bad, plz help


You need CCs and you need your AD carry and AP carry to win their lanes. Most ADs beat tanky DPS champs who don't have dashes in lane, so try to lane them against that. Swain/Kennen/Morgana/Rumble can all lane against bruisers just fine and can shit on them during mid and late game as well.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
December 20 2011 04:26 GMT
#2407
I had a game where the enemy team had 3 dcs at exactly the same time.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 04:28:02
December 20 2011 04:27 GMT
#2408
On December 20 2011 12:52 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:41 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
who is more of a terror at low elo - akali or shaco?


I can't speak for US or anything, but on EUW shaco is currently permaban between 1400-1800. If he's picked, he wrecks games. So, yeah. Shaco all day. =D

Shaco requires a team who is competent enough to support ganks. Akali can just burst something from 100% hp to 0%, even when they have teammates nearby. All she needs is 1-2 kills (which are basically free for any assassin at low Elo) and she will snowball out of control.
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 20 2011 04:29 GMT
#2409
On December 20 2011 13:17 Requizen wrote:
Is it just me, or is tanky dps too strong in lower levels? Yeah, yeah, I know there's a QQ thread, but at what point do you learn to counter them/deal with it? What tips do you have for 4 tanky dps and one massive nuker or support? Even with a normal team comp, it seems like you can't tear through their health or push them back fast enough to win.

I bad, plz help


If you pick 5 Tanky DPS, 5 Support, 5 AD carry, or 5 AP carry as your team, in low ELO you will literally win 90% of your games

When you approach 1600+ this tends not to be the case.

Now why is this so you may ask?

because in low ELO a lot of people can only play certain champions, more importantly will not be able to play champs that can counter it

Now say a team picks 5 tanky DPS, if you have Alistar and Vayne you're probably going to win. Simply because Alistar just craps on melee, and Vayne does too much damage. Janna is a free win as well if they're all melee.
However, if your team picks LeBlanc, Kassadin, and like Galio obviously you're screwed.

If they pick 5 AP, and you have anyone who is tanky enough to survive that kind of burst you're going to win. This is especially the case if you have like Udyr and Galio. Of course, stacking MR will be huehuehue

Now say they build a 5 AD carry team, malphite and tryndamere will crap on that so hard.

If they pick 5 support, then you just have to pray to god that your team doesn't try to fight them before the 30 minute mark even if you're 20 kills up because somehow 5 support teams always rape in teamfights before 30 minute mark where their base values aren't good enough anymore.

The most important part is not counterpicking yourself




"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 20 2011 04:29 GMT
#2410
On December 20 2011 13:26 Bwaaaa wrote:
I had a game where the enemy team had 3 dcs at exactly the same time.


were they a 3 man premade?

I had half 4 people dc at the same time once, one from my team, 3 from the other. Everyone else suddenly lagged like hell. I guess it was something to do with the server.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
December 20 2011 04:32 GMT
#2411
I was lagging off and on in game (and in general), but I dunno if it was the servers or just someone in my home who doesn't know how to bandwidth cap bittorrent.
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 20 2011 04:33 GMT
#2412
On December 20 2011 13:29 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 13:26 Bwaaaa wrote:
I had a game where the enemy team had 3 dcs at exactly the same time.


were they a 3 man premade?

I had half 4 people dc at the same time once, one from my team, 3 from the other. Everyone else suddenly lagged like hell. I guess it was something to do with the server.


The best moment of my life was when I was a level 15~ summoner, and got ganked by 5 people because I was over extending

Then all 5 just stopped in place, and I pentakilled.

haven't gotten that many pentas since ;(

"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
December 20 2011 04:33 GMT
#2413
Just had the most one-sided ranked game ever.
Our Garen top somehow managed to win his 1v2 lane against irelia vayne (came out 3-1), our mid Sion Screwed over mid Brand (4-0 in lane), and our Ali Trist bot was collectively 7-0. I had nothing to do the whole game as there was no need for ganks (jungling).

Thank you MM

anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
December 20 2011 04:38 GMT
#2414
On December 20 2011 13:33 Abenson wrote:
Just had the most one-sided ranked game ever.
Our Garen top somehow managed to win his 1v2 lane against irelia vayne (came out 3-1), our mid Sion Screwed over mid Brand (4-0 in lane), and our Ali Trist bot was collectively 7-0. I had nothing to do the whole game as there was no need for ganks (jungling).

Thank you MM


That sounds almost too good to be true :p
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Tezzick
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada187 Posts
December 20 2011 04:54 GMT
#2415
Dyrus playing on laptop?
Crazy beeping into "wtf omg" into dead stream.
lol
"I'm a monster" - Buster
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 20 2011 05:05 GMT
#2416
On December 20 2011 13:29 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 13:17 Requizen wrote:
Is it just me, or is tanky dps too strong in lower levels? Yeah, yeah, I know there's a QQ thread, but at what point do you learn to counter them/deal with it? What tips do you have for 4 tanky dps and one massive nuker or support? Even with a normal team comp, it seems like you can't tear through their health or push them back fast enough to win.

I bad, plz help


If you pick 5 Tanky DPS, 5 Support, 5 AD carry, or 5 AP carry as your team, in low ELO you will literally win 90% of your games

When you approach 1600+ this tends not to be the case.

Now why is this so you may ask?

because in low ELO a lot of people can only play certain champions, more importantly will not be able to play champs that can counter it

Now say a team picks 5 tanky DPS, if you have Alistar and Vayne you're probably going to win. Simply because Alistar just craps on melee, and Vayne does too much damage. Janna is a free win as well if they're all melee.
However, if your team picks LeBlanc, Kassadin, and like Galio obviously you're screwed.

If they pick 5 AP, and you have anyone who is tanky enough to survive that kind of burst you're going to win. This is especially the case if you have like Udyr and Galio. Of course, stacking MR will be huehuehue

Now say they build a 5 AD carry team, malphite and tryndamere will crap on that so hard.

If they pick 5 support, then you just have to pray to god that your team doesn't try to fight them before the 30 minute mark even if you're 20 kills up because somehow 5 support teams always rape in teamfights before 30 minute mark where their base values aren't good enough anymore.

The most important part is not counterpicking yourself





5 Support part is the funniest shit in the world. I remember sieging their inhibitor turret for 10 minutes straight, until they finally all died to an ace from us. So much sustain it's broken.
liftlift > tsm
AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
December 20 2011 05:31 GMT
#2417
So who counts as a sustained damage mage? I've been meaning to learn AP, but don't like the burst-and-run types (like Brand or whatever). I figure Ryze is one, probably Cass and Swain. Who else?
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
December 20 2011 05:35 GMT
#2418
karthus
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 20 2011 05:36 GMT
#2419
On December 20 2011 14:35 eagle wrote:
karthus

Karthus is in a class of his own when it comes to mages. Just farm with q then just turn on your AOE and kill everyone.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
December 20 2011 05:41 GMT
#2420
I'm a little surprised that people are still trying to pretend they can't play support in 1700+ elo.
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