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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote: that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu? You could tarts a wagon to elect him mayor and see if he can come good on this pregame claim + Show Spoiler + On January 18 2013 18:12 Chezinu wrote: For mayor, you want someone who can come up with really good reads. The mayor can speak freely without the fear of death (at least from mafia and vigilantes). The mayor will be able to rally everyone together and start an orderly discussion. With the presence of masons, it is highly likely that they will contact the mayor. The mayor will need to discriminate between the mafia and town. He must choose how much information to pass along to these individuals. The mayor's vote counts more than the average townie, so this discrimination between town and mafia is a very essential skill. Town shouldn't be to rash to lynch mayor. This has happened all to often. Chezinu could possibly be a good mayor. He has been know for his lists and as mafia a blue sniper. Though he is often very selfish and speaks in riddles to avoid being killed. He isn't known for pushing his lynches. He mostly lets others do the work, unless he has a special role like detective. However, I believe this would change if he were mayor. The selfish motives that hinders this player will no longer be in his way if he were mayor. The selfish motives that hinders this player will no longer be in his way if he were mayor. Is Chenzinu prepared to put any down payment on this claim... ##Vote Chenzinu Nothing like the smell of roasted <early wagon> in the morning? | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
So no I'd rather not unless the other options all look awful. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
In front of you are three snowmen. The leftmost snowman has a carrot nose. The right most snowman has a stick for a nose. The middle snowman has a red foam clown nose for a nose. If you had a wish from a genie that allowed you turn any one of the snowmen into a dog (insert a different animal if you're not a dog person), which snowman would you choose to turn into a dog and why? | ||
Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:10 austinmcc wrote: Mayor-Chezinu does not necessarily mean serious Chezinu. "I will be serious if mayor" Chezinu does not necessarily mean serious mayor Chezinu. If you want to vote him because you want him to have bodyguards and to have an extra vote, then by all means. But I don't think anyone should actually assume that Chezinu being mayor will mean anything about the way he plays. I must disagree. I believe Chezinu will play sanely. The only reason his plays with his brown methods is to survive. If he is already guaranteed to live then his play will certainly change. | ||
Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:11 AxleGreaser wrote: You could tarts a wagon to elect him mayor and see if he can come good on this pregame claim + Show Spoiler + On January 18 2013 18:12 Chezinu wrote: For mayor, you want someone who can come up with really good reads. The mayor can speak freely without the fear of death (at least from mafia and vigilantes). The mayor will be able to rally everyone together and start an orderly discussion. With the presence of masons, it is highly likely that they will contact the mayor. The mayor will need to discriminate between the mafia and town. He must choose how much information to pass along to these individuals. The mayor's vote counts more than the average townie, so this discrimination between town and mafia is a very essential skill. Town shouldn't be to rash to lynch mayor. This has happened all to often. Chezinu could possibly be a good mayor. He has been know for his lists and as mafia a blue sniper. Though he is often very selfish and speaks in riddles to avoid being killed. He isn't known for pushing his lynches. He mostly lets others do the work, unless he has a special role like detective. However, I believe this would change if he were mayor. The selfish motives that hinders this player will no longer be in his way if he were mayor. The selfish motives that hinders this player will no longer be in his way if he were mayor. Is Chenzinu prepared to put any down payment on this claim... ##Vote Chenzinu Nothing like the smell of roasted <early wagon> in the morning? I think Chezinu would be better than Chenzinu. | ||
AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:14 Chezinu wrote: I must disagree. I believe Chezinu will play sanely. The only reason his plays with his brown methods is to survive. If he is already guaranteed to live then his play will certainly change. Chezinu: The only reason his plays with his brown methods is to survive. But how do i know that is so? | ||
Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:17 AxleGreaser wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2013 11:14 Chezinu wrote: I must disagree. I believe Chezinu will play sanely. The only reason his plays with his brown methods is to survive. If he is already guaranteed to live then his play will certainly change. Chezinu: The only reason his plays with his brown methods is to survive. But how do i know that is so? Chezinu plays like no other. He mentions his play while playing. He is quite the honest player if one understands him. From the very first time he claimed the brown, he always told his reasons. It was always due to him being selfish and wanting to live. The games of old declare this to be true. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:14 Chezinu wrote: I must disagree. I believe Chezinu will play sanely. The only reason his plays with his brown methods is to survive. If he is already guaranteed to live then his play will certainly change. the problem really isn't your sanity although that might be part of it. The problem I see with voting someone like you is that unless you hit mafia d1 there will be a shitstorm d2 with half of the people screaming for your head while the other half doesn't want to lynch you. It's just not a good situation to be in if you're mayor, no matter of your alignment unless you actually hit mafia d1 and I'm not willing to risk that without a proper read and having better / decent alternatives. Like I said, Sandro should be the #1 person to go to if he's town, he's really good as town but not so much as mafia. Shouldn't be too hard to figure him out if he starts posting It's basicly the same reasoning for why I'm not running | ||
Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On May 31 2010 04:06 Chezinu wrote: Your correct. I didn't want to post in the thread before the game started because I didn't want to get shot on day one. I have finally built up the courage to post and decided not to live in fear! So here I am! My thoughts so far: First thing I noticed besides the capability of getting shot on day one was that there are no pms this game! That means my notorious pming ability (or annoyance) is gone! Now we have to speak openly in public. I would try and use code words or create puzzles and riddles to communicate to a select few, but that has proven to fail in the past. So what shall I do then? I guess I could try playing sane like I attempted to in the past and just be honest about everything. I think it will actually work this game! Why? Because the temptation of pms are gone and I may have a gun pointed at my head. I think everyone should be as open as possible this game and encourage one another to talk. If someone who hasn't talked in a long time starts talking, don't bash him or he might turn back to his introverted ways. Do not believe the lies of people who question this thought process. They may approach us with question like "Do you REALLY want to chat?" I say YES WE DO!!! But don't attack these people too much for they are just lacking in understanding. We should just inform them politely and guide them into a sound mind. If I get shot for this, please remember my words. Just for fun: If I was playing evil I would do this: + Show Spoiler + To prove that I will not play brown I would kill brownbear. Then go on a rampage filled with symbolic meanings that portray a distorted view and cause chaos. Tempting but I'm resisting. If I was a bomber (if there would have been one): + Show Spoiler + I would try to get permission to use brown as the codeword and pretend to make a statement about how I would be b***** this game. I would censor the word or something in order to get someone to quote me and fill in the blanl But I will resist these paths though they are easy and fun...oh the temptation just talking about them! I can't help myself - I need to be a little crazy here: ROLE CLAIMING DAY ONE!!!!! I AM A TOWNIE!!!! Muaahahahah!! But in all seriousness I started off serious.... It just to hard to play the sane game! How about a play a crazy good guy who tells the truth but in a dramatic fashion? OK, I think I will do that. Oh yeah.. I just remember something after going crazy above, I go insane publicly when I don't have my pms to counterbalance my sanity.... so true but I can't help it so I guess I'll embrace it! So my plan this game is the same every game: go with the flow and make up plans and change constantly throughout the game while at the same time remaining true to key values. This game the key value will be being honest. Other games I played mad detective ( acting crazy as usual but actually having a role that I could use) , being brown (playing both sides to avoid death aka being selfish or lukewarm), then I played the crazy detective ( I tried building a town circle which kept dieing forcing me to rebuilt it - even if the circle was only semi-real . I played the brown role that game as well.. I get selfish.. This game I will try not too.. but then again I may fall into temptation...) NOTE: Though appearing crazy, I'm telling the truth. I just have too much fun acting crazy... It is what makes this game fun for me. So please, allow me the freedom to enjoy this game with my rambles. If it annoys you... well you can skip my posts.. but then you might miss out... But if I play not to annoy certain people - this game wouldn't be fun... I may be over-analyzing this too much from other people's perspective - but I can't help it. I have already over-analyzed how I over-analyze too much and have come to the conclusion to that I can't help myself. So many thoughts about nothing and the game has only begun... I guess am ready to play now. I have my game plan (though it is never a solid plan - its more abstract... it's a more of a mindset to approaching the game..). Will now start reading other people's post. I hope you enjoy my rambles and distinct grammar for all you grammar analyst! HAVE FUN! note: there are no hidden codewords in this post unless you believe I subconsciously create them... Now I shall end my rant...must stop...(now questioning if I should even read what I wrote myself but decides not to and continues to write his stream of thoughts until he finds the ability to hit submit...then wonders if he should end the state with an ")" but forces himself to neglect it or tries to mentally but finds he is still typing...must kill Post!!!ARGHAAGAHGHD!GH On July 27 2012 06:42 Chezinu wrote: Semi-Sane (I tried, but couldn’t resist and little insanity) Speech: Hello everyone, My real username is Chezinu. Mr. Walton was my alias. I know a great number of you know me as the director of communication. You may have presumed I had about 3 people working with me that had an ability to communicate. There have been rumors that I could intercept mafia’s communication lines. This is false. There have been rumors that I could censor mafia’s messages. This is false. There have been rumors that I know all the town roles. This is false. There have been rumors that I am mafia. This is false. There have been rumors that I have a role checking ability. This is false. There have been rumors that Chezinu’s play style is amazing. I would like to be this is true. So what is truth? I would like to say in this case, it is objective and absolute. So what is the truth about Chezinu’s role. You see, Chezinu feels uncomfortable about coming out with his role. He loves to bluff and play both sides because he loves to live to troll again. By revealing who he really is, he could be placed in danger and forever end his ability to troll in the current game. How can he captivate his audience when there is no mystery? However, Chezinu must do the right thing and play to win, although it is not mentioned in the rules. Sometimes that requires sacrifice. He has to lay down his ammunition to troll and have fun for the greater good of town. The truth… It hurts to day… I once heard in a tv show, “If the truth hurts, you are not living your life right.” Well, today it hurts to tell the truth. I think it is because I’m selfish… I just want to troll and have fun, but I must let it go! I must tell the truth. Okay, here we go. I am…a…. Bossy Employee. There I said it. I am no longer going to do as I did when I pretended to be a bank in the game LSB hosted. You see, in that game similar to this game, I took properties of my roles and morphed it into something way more powerful. It’s all an illusion. It’s just Brown Fluff to cause chaos in the eyes of mafia and to keep my selfish self alive. Though some of you may wonder how I could possibly only be a bossy employee yet know soo much about other people’s roles and alignment. If I said, “Cause I’m Chezinu” I wouldn’t be telling the whole story. Yes, I do have some skills to read peoples, but not as advance of Ver (+host rep). There must be something more, you may wonder. Well, Chezinu bluffs a lot. From reactions of the bluff he get feedback on people’s behavior. He jokes around to get people’s guard down so that they may slip. He shoot a fake nuke at mafia to get then to panic and lie. He loves to taunt the mafia and pretends to know their plans. Sometime he may have extremely educated guesses that are accurate. He loves to pretend to be with them and act as one of them. He questions people with “trollish” questions to breadcrumb clues or get reactions. Few may pick it up, but far less don’t. Chezinu’s plans only works if he lives. For only he can read people’s reactions toward himself because he is the only one that knows his own role. He strives to live for a few days as he gathers information. Then if he is town, he reveals his findings if they weren’t picked up from his breadcrumbs. He may be late in posting (if he gets into technical beta for an mmofps game) , but he will come through if he has something to say and if that something should be said. So, What did Chezinu do last night or the matter of fact all game? Did he just troll around? Day1: Chezinu sends pm to a player whom he will not mention yet. Said player followed orders, but never claimed in thread. Night1: Chezinu sends message to BH asking him to protect Chezinu cause BH wanted to get him lynched earlier. BH follows orders and never threatens Chezinu again. During Day1 and Night1 Chezinu pretends to be mafia CEO or Chairman. This was in order for mafia to keep him alive and give them the knowledge that he sent them his orders. Day2: I messaged VE to save my life. Night2: I had a busy day and missed the deadline: I also missed the posting of the day post that said foolish died (by one minute!) and didn’t read the thread til later. You can see my next post was after the whole VE got promoted thing and killing BH. I ended up reading day post and BH dying post back to back. I missed that vital page until Prob corrected me. Day2: I sent a message to a seemingly pro-town player, that person didn’t post message in thread. Night2: Had to pm VE again to save my life ( you see if you are a town leader and can get me lynch, I do somewhat take it seriously) Got to cover my back first and to my job second.. Wait a minute... This whole post makes it so that I’m doing my job first and covering myself second. This post can get me killed…Oh well Day3: oh that’s today. That means I got 2 and a half hours to pm someone.. I know someone in the thread was lonely cause I didn’t message them.. but I really want to make a message to someone else.. I could pm someone all of my reads…but that’s not a Chezinu strategy way to do things.. Ok, I think I covered most questions. I think others have already been answered elsewhere in thread. So, if you got questions, just post them. I’ll stop by and skim thread.. In the meantime, I’m going to play some mmofps game… mauhahaha posting sem-sanely in a pro-town way takes a lot of work cause you have to explain everything semi-ly instead of just posting a one or two word clue or a 1 or 2 sentence clue... Here are two random quotes from myself after searching "selfish brown" Username: Chezinu. Now let us read. | ||
Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:20 Toadesstern wrote: the problem really isn't your sanity although that might be part of it. The problem I see with voting someone like you is that unless you hit mafia d1 there will be a shitstorm d2 with half of the people screaming for your head while the other half doesn't want to lynch you. It's just not a good situation to be in if you're mayor, no matter of your alignment unless you actually hit mafia d1 and I'm not willing to risk that without a proper read and having better / decent alternatives. Like I said, Sandro should be the #1 person to go to if he's town, he's really good as town but not so much as mafia. Shouldn't be too hard to figure him out if he starts posting It's basicly the same reasoning for why I'm not running That already happens. Mayors typically die early if they don't hit scum. That's why my advise was to let the mayor live for a while before murdering him(or her) too quickly. Read the previous game with mayors, it happens all to often. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:23 Chezinu wrote: That already happens. Mayors typically die early if they don't hit scum. That's why my advise was to let the mayor live for a while before murdering him(or her) too quickly. Read the previous game with mayors, it happens all to often. I know, I've been in some of them. Hence the statement that I'd rather not vote you and instead vote someone who's not a center of paranoia no matter of alignment, someone who is easy to read and good as town. | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I think there are people better suited for this office than me (i.e. the vets), and I don't think I'm an exceptional D1 player. I really think it should be better to give the double vote and the potential of a real bodyguard to a more experienced player than me. As stated in the pregame, I'm considering sandroba for mayor, but I need to see him post first of course. I'd appreciate a lot transparency and activity for the potential mayor. I would like to vote someone based on who is going to be lynched today as well. | ||
Stutters695
2610 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:27 Toadesstern wrote: I know, I've been in some of them. Hence the statement that I'd rather not vote you and instead vote someone who's not a center of paranoia no matter of alignment, someone who is easy to read and good as town. Makes sense. If this is common however aren't we risking lynching someone who seems easy to read because they mislynched d1 unless they have nearly flawless town play? I wouldn't necessarily lynch them because of a d1 mislynch but if lynching the mayor is probable sometime early doesn't that add incentive to make the mayor someone hard to read side then they're forced into doing something that helps generate a read? | ||
sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
i might lynch prpl anyway despite being a commoner | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:55 Stutters695 wrote: Makes sense. If this is common however aren't we risking lynching someone who seems easy to read because they mislynched d1 unless they have nearly flawless town play? I wouldn't necessarily lynch them because of a d1 mislynch but if lynching the mayor is probable sometime early doesn't that add incentive to make the mayor someone hard to read side then they're forced into doing something that helps generate a read? well Sandroba would have been someone who's readable beyond his call on the d1 lynch. I wouldn't call for a sandroba-lynch as a mayor unless for a damn good reasoning. I could see a mayor-lynch on chez happening on nothing but "duh, he was wrong let's lynch him" because he's hard to read. I don't want us to get into that situation.... but Sandroba not running is troublesome. | ||
gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I plan to run for mayor, always wanted to in TL but never had the chance I'll have the chance to fuck some scum on D1 fuck yeah. I'm kind of busy right now, in a moment I'll make the "official" campaign. | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:55 sandroba wrote: i'm not running for mayor muahahaha that's my evil plan! i might lynch prpl anyway despite being a commoner @ sandro Why are you not running ? Why would you lynch prplhz ? | ||
Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On January 20 2013 12:02 Toadesstern wrote: well Sandroba would have been someone who's readable beyond his call on the d1 lynch. I wouldn't call for a sandroba-lynch as a mayor unless for a damn good reasoning. I could see a mayor-lynch on chez happening on nothing but "duh, he was wrong let's lynch him" because he's hard to read. I don't want us to get into that situation.... but Sandroba not running is troublesome. Running for mayor is kind of like suicide, so I do understand him for not wanting to run. It just has been a long and almost lost dream I had to one day run for mayor. I understand the consequences if I don't hit scum. That's is why I will be extremely serious. I do have my newly defined secret weapon for day 1 lynch. The Chezinu Rule. It seems others have picked up on the idea. | ||
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