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On February 13 2011 08:31 SpaceFighting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 08:24 Krohm wrote:![[image loading]](http://davesdominion.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/people_jumping_out.jpg) People trapped in one of the twin towers... And the falling man... a pretty heart moving/breaking picture. ![[image loading]](http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/9/13/14/6c180ef95a0935d3879281512b8d41aa.jpg) i dont really know much about that 9/11 thing, since i didnt really care back then when it happened...i was real young, but as i matured, everytime i see pictures like this referring to it i get chills man...have no idea why.
Because you irrationally believe dying Americans are more important than the millions of people the American government has killed / continues to kill by way of hypocritical, exploitative policies, not to mention outright murder. Does the Kool-Aid taste good?
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On February 13 2011 17:23 Carlin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 17:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 13 2011 10:14 Glaven wrote:Bonus: For me this seemingly mundane picture is actually extremely meaningful. I think in this particular instance Nachtwey got incredibly lucky catching this shot. Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but you guys should tell me if you see what I see. + Show Spoiler + I don't get this one :\ He is the devil, according to his shadow. 
Oh, devil, I was thinking Mickey Mouse. Now it makes sense.
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On February 13 2011 17:42 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:I stared at this one for a while. That is pretty good graffiti.
its bansky , you can google him and see some of his work
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The quote is from when Gandhi was younger. He later on became much more open-minded person. Everyone says strange things when they are young; you can't laugh at someone respecting Gandhi who has brought a revolutionary mindset just because something he said when he was young.
Also, sleeping with young girls was to test himself and this was a public knowledge.
And when did he ever said "just bend over and die"? He promoted non-violent resistance, such as strikes. He attempted to appeal to the human side of the invaders.
Here's a quote from Gandhis book:
A non-violent army acts unlike armed men, as well in times of peace as in times of disturbances. Theirs will be the duty of bringing warring communities together, carrying peace propaganda, engaging in activities that would bring and keep them in touch with every single person in their parish or division. Such an army should be ready to cope with any emergency, and in order to still the frenzy of mobs should risk their lives in numbers sufficient for that purpose. ...Satyagraha (truth-force) brigades can be organised in every village and every block of buildings in the cities. [If the non-violent society is attacked from without] there are two ways open to non-violence. To yield possession, but non-cooperate with the aggressor...prefer death to submission. The second way would be non-violent resistance by the people who have been trained in the non-violent way...The unexpected spectacle of endless rows upon rows of men and women simply dying rather than surrender to the will of an aggressor must ultimately melt him and his soldiery...A nation or group which has made non-violence its final policy cannot be subjected to slavery even by the atom bomb.... The level of non-violence in that nation, if that even happily comes to pass, will naturally have risen so high as to command universal respect.
And as I said earlier, he said it's ok to use violence, if you are afraid of non-violent actions. He doesn't seem to give much value to human lives. His philosophy is basically "Throw human lives at a problem until it goes away."
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On February 13 2011 21:42 Chex Mix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 08:31 SpaceFighting wrote:On February 13 2011 08:24 Krohm wrote:People trapped in one of the twin towers... And the falling man... a pretty heart moving/breaking picture. i dont really know much about that 9/11 thing, since i didnt really care back then when it happened...i was real young, but as i matured, everytime i see pictures like this referring to it i get chills man...have no idea why. Because you irrationally believe dying Americans are more important than the millions of people the American government has killed / continues to kill by way of hypocritical, exploitative policies, not to mention outright murder. Does the Kool-Aid taste good?
Indeed, I'm pretty shocked when I see what kind of impact an event like 9/11 has. Is it horrible, yes. But it's nothing compared to governments starting complete wars for money. So many people are tunnelvisioned on FOX news or whatever.
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On February 13 2011 17:52 Sufficiency wrote:
I believe that's a photo of (British?) soldiers who got blinded by gas attacks in WW1.
Correct
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On February 13 2011 21:42 Chex Mix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 08:31 SpaceFighting wrote:On February 13 2011 08:24 Krohm wrote:People trapped in one of the twin towers... And the falling man... a pretty heart moving/breaking picture. i dont really know much about that 9/11 thing, since i didnt really care back then when it happened...i was real young, but as i matured, everytime i see pictures like this referring to it i get chills man...have no idea why. Because you irrationally believe dying Americans are more important than the millions of people the American government has killed / continues to kill by way of hypocritical, exploitative policies, not to mention outright murder. Does the Kool-Aid taste good? + Show Spoiler +
Take it elsewhere please. Mkay?
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In response to XsebT posting the Sgt. pepper album.
The beatles said that the persons on the cover were people they loved/respected.
This guy is one of the most famous occultist and satanist ever...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
He was also linked to the physician who created the rocket propulsion system used on the atomic bomb, and even Hitler (even if there isn't any material proof of it).
As it has been said it's all about context and I think the one behind the Sgt pepper album and this all beatle thing is kinda suspicious.
I used to like this band with their happy faces and all that but when I realised that ...
ps: 1st post :D
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It’s no wonder the Abşeron Peninsula is considered to be one of the most polluted areas in the world. Years of drilling with little regard for the surrounding environment have left the area resembling an apocalyptic wasteland. We drove through these famed old fields of Baku – the same fields upon which the Nobel family earned their fortune and Royal Dutch Shell rose to prominence. Now, these fields are dotted with homes (mere shacks, really) and the rusting equipment acts as makeshift goals for the local kids playing soccer on the thick, oily sand, surrounded by pools of crude oil and broken pipelines.
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I recently watched an amazing news report about a woman named Vivian Maier who was discovered to have taken thousands of street photos during her lifetime. So here's one of her more popular photos and a link to the report about the guy that discovered her work.
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More images Here
Here's the video about the guy and a lot of her other work
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On February 13 2011 21:42 Chex Mix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 08:31 SpaceFighting wrote:On February 13 2011 08:24 Krohm wrote:People trapped in one of the twin towers... And the falling man... a pretty heart moving/breaking picture. i dont really know much about that 9/11 thing, since i didnt really care back then when it happened...i was real young, but as i matured, everytime i see pictures like this referring to it i get chills man...have no idea why. Because you irrationally believe dying Americans are more important than the millions of people the American government has killed / continues to kill by way of hypocritical, exploitative policies, not to mention outright murder. Does the Kool-Aid taste good?
Oh, you. Taking your little stand no one cares about.
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I have been to Birkenau among two other concentration camps in 04 when I was 14, I was also born and lived in Poland until I was 5, I have also meet various WW2 veterans. I vaguely remember when our group of 100+ people of classmates and their parents in turn put a rose on the Norwegian memorial, but I knew they could not possibly understand what took place here, since I was less than 5 I have witnessed human suffering throughout my life.
I walked up on my own accord alone to the polish memorial and put down my rose, as I looked back at the single rose lying there I started crying, sobbing uncontrollably, I couldn't stop the flow of unexplained spontaneous emotions overtaking my body. I was shaking uncontrollably and blocked out everyone around me, I could not stop crying or trembling.
My class teacher put his hand on my shoulder like he was proud of me for showing emotions or for whatever reason. He was raised during the 60's and who retired the year after where he had said, that the most memorable class he will remember is the first class he ever had and us...
After a while as we where walking down the road a young man around my age walked up alongside me from another expedition. He said he was German, I said I was Norwegian but born Poland, he then said he was sorry and we just looked at each other and continued walking. Then a girl from my class that later became miss teen 05 hugged me and I let the emotions calm down and started to regain my composure.
It was I think one of the most powerful emotional experience in my life and what I felt, I felt alone, nobody shared it and it wasn't because of what a fucking bad awful childhood I had but because of unexplained reasons that I identified myself with the pain of my kin and the suffering of those who had long since been executed.
Auschwitz-Birkenau - Well known slogan placed at the entrance of Nazi concentration camps, Arbeit Macht Frei (Work will make you free)
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WW2 was the greatest military confilct in history with 62-78 million casualties and I think nothing has ever made a more powerful impact on me than those 6 years in history. The systematical calculated extermination of human life is just unrepresented on such a massive scale, it frightens me to know it's only been 65 years. Whenever you think humanity is progressing, that humans are better than their reptilian nature, think of this...
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On February 13 2011 23:17 Sotamursu wrote:Show nested quote +
The quote is from when Gandhi was younger. He later on became much more open-minded person. Everyone says strange things when they are young; you can't laugh at someone respecting Gandhi who has brought a revolutionary mindset just because something he said when he was young.
Also, sleeping with young girls was to test himself and this was a public knowledge.
And when did he ever said "just bend over and die"? He promoted non-violent resistance, such as strikes. He attempted to appeal to the human side of the invaders.
Here's a quote from Gandhis book: Show nested quote +A non-violent army acts unlike armed men, as well in times of peace as in times of disturbances. Theirs will be the duty of bringing warring communities together, carrying peace propaganda, engaging in activities that would bring and keep them in touch with every single person in their parish or division. Such an army should be ready to cope with any emergency, and in order to still the frenzy of mobs should risk their lives in numbers sufficient for that purpose. ...Satyagraha (truth-force) brigades can be organised in every village and every block of buildings in the cities. [If the non-violent society is attacked from without] there are two ways open to non-violence. To yield possession, but non-cooperate with the aggressor...prefer death to submission. The second way would be non-violent resistance by the people who have been trained in the non-violent way...The unexpected spectacle of endless rows upon rows of men and women simply dying rather than surrender to the will of an aggressor must ultimately melt him and his soldiery...A nation or group which has made non-violence its final policy cannot be subjected to slavery even by the atom bomb.... The level of non-violence in that nation, if that even happily comes to pass, will naturally have risen so high as to command universal respect. And as I said earlier, he said it's ok to use violence, if you are afraid of non-violent actions. He doesn't seem to give much value to human lives. His philosophy is basically "Throw human lives at a problem until it goes away."
nowhere in that quote does he promote violence. "To yield possession, but non-cooperate with the aggressor... prefer death to submission." does not mean he advocates violence, it just means he promotes non-violent resistance even if it could lead to death over submission. that is what we call dying for your beliefs.
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On February 13 2011 21:42 Chex Mix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 08:31 SpaceFighting wrote:On February 13 2011 08:24 Krohm wrote:People trapped in one of the twin towers... And the falling man... a pretty heart moving/breaking picture. i dont really know much about that 9/11 thing, since i didnt really care back then when it happened...i was real young, but as i matured, everytime i see pictures like this referring to it i get chills man...have no idea why. Because you irrationally believe dying Americans are more important than the millions of people the American government has killed / continues to kill by way of hypocritical, exploitative policies, not to mention outright murder. Does the Kool-Aid taste good?
Yeah, because everyone in those buildings had personally tortured and killed a non-American.
Fuck you.
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My favorite picture of all time
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+ Show Spoiler +Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
-- Carl Sagan
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nowhere in that quote does he promote violence. "To yield possession, but non-cooperate with the aggressor... prefer death to submission." does not mean he advocates violence, it just means he promotes non-violent resistance even if it could lead to death over submission. that is what we call dying for your beliefs.
I forgot to put the other quote.
"Gandhi guarded against attracting to his satyagraha movement those who feared to take up arms or felt themselves incapable of resistance. 'I do believe,' he wrote, 'that where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence.'"
Are you saying that dying for your beliefs is a good thing? Do you admire terrorists when they die for their beliefs?
Why is Gandhi so special to you?
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