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While I'm posting walls of text, lets make another one with Dog's suspicious behaviours.
1. He completely shat up the thread with a fake posting restriction. This was not a Foolishness posting restriction, where he made sense, but posted in limericks, nor a Drazerk posting restriction where he showered Caller in praise. This was a posting restriction where he figured creating an entire page of morse code woofs was somehow a good idea. P-Body then translated this into hex... which finally got translated into regular text. If the anarchists have a QT, look NO further than page 62 for an example of them jointly shitting up the thread COMPLETELY. Even if they don't have a QT, it was a golden opportunity for P-Body to create anarchy in the thread with that crap... and that opportunity was created by YES_THIS_IS_DOG's retardation.
2. On May 12 2012 04:45 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
I'm not sure that Maju is the best lynch target at the moment. He has been lurking but I don't think there's enough evidence for his lynch.
Most of you haven't provided good reasons for not voting Forumite. SCUM is trying to draw the conversation away from him.
Could this be Dog trying to divert the lynch off his scumbuddy? Why yes, it could. There is a townie explanation too, but lets not discard the excellent scum reason for this gem of a post.
On May 14 2012 07:54 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
lol, sinani was actually scum this time.
Fake surprise?
3. The rest of his filter is a discussion of the lurkers. Now I get that most of D2 has been about the lurkers, but some people are trying to make sense of other people too. Dog isn't. He's just blending in with the lurker discussion: a very safe place for scum to hide.
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Companion Cube
I am a bishop. This allows me to once per night, declare someone a heretic and have their role revealed with the daypost. My power was demonstarted today with the relevation of Drazerk's role. I did so in order to check if he indeed had some wierd role which might have a posting restriction. However, my role was too publicly displayed for all to see, similarly to how drazerk's was. This leads me to confirm a suspision I have long had - that there is another bishop.
I first thought bishop was a town role, only later realising that it was a probable scum role as well as it did not reveal alignment. I am 100% sure the other bishop is Companion Cube.
BUT MY DUTY PREVENTS ME FROM MARRYING ANYONE.
IF YOU WERE ABLE TO REVEAL ANYONE'S HIDDEN POTENTIAL (POWERS), WHOM WOULD YOU CHOOSE?
IT IS SORT OF RELATED TO WHY I DON'T WANT TO BECOME A BISHOP.
YOU SEE, THE HIGH BELIEVERS OF CATHOLICS WILL NOT LET ME MARRY ANYONE.
Now why do I think that companion cube is scum? It makes no sense for a town bishop to check me, especially since he has revealed 0 suspisions about me before hand. Why would a town bishop do this? I was probably ozzing blue primarly due to the fact I tried to hint to him that I was a bishop too (Remember at that time I didnt think that bishop was a probable scum role). As such, I am relatively sure that his check was used similarly to a regular rolecops', and lucked out with getting a chancellor at the same time 
Besides all that, Companion Cube also has done next to nothing. After a failed bid for empress, he has since dissapeared, proceeding to do next to nothing bar giving crappy excuses for his complete and utter lack of activity.
Oh and hes pending to be modkilled at this rate but I'll recommend our Kaiser to have the honour of lynching this scumcube assuming he comes back, unless he comes back and gives a VERY good reason for the check or he claims something else (Which has to be really believable), and explain his utter lack of activity.
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On May 15 2012 19:22 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 18:58 Forumite wrote:On May 15 2012 18:53 Carolus Magnus wrote:
I don't personally consider it likely for S&B to ever hastily throw away his votes like that. He doesn't seem like the impulsive type and the apology also feels off. Would anyone believe if I said that I troll voted someone early on? I would hope not. The chronology of the posts and the context just makes it even more suspicious. I´m not following. Are you talking about the Emperor+Empress vote? Yes, he is. S&B deliberately wasted his vote on Drazerk/Drazerk. Or so he claims. The timing of his vote-claim was AFTER Carolus had yelled at me for telling Erandorr he was stupid scum when he wasted his vote. This created a situation in which S&B's voteclaim went almost unnoticed and it had been established in thread that claiming a derp-vote was a townie thing to do. I personally don't know S&B at all well. I have played one game with him, in which he was scum. His M.O. was to lurk the crap out of the thread until scum gave up and died. However, there was nothing normal about that game (SSM) due to the massive town circle that started forming about 10 minutes into the game that scum was not quick enough to stop or infiltrate effectively. Sandro won that game for town almost singlehandedly and I am hesitant to draw any conclusions about meta from there. I trust Sandrogism if he says S&B is normally a meticulous and careful player, and if that is true, then tossing a vote is seriously out of character, while claiming to do so in the environment created in the thread at that point isn't. Meaning, he could've voted for a serious candidate while claiming something else. However, this and the late vote for Maju are the only two things that seem to indicate scum and I am not sure how strong I weigh these. Forumite, you're married to the guy. Any insight from the private chat? You said he believed your roleclaim, but that is not a town tell. A bit more about the emperor votes: the ones proclaimed so far indicate Carolus getting elected. I have the sneaking suspicion scum voted me into power, because all three of the serious candidates are town and I am the least experienced (so from their perspective: the chance of me derping is higher than that of Carolus or Mattchew derping). Now there's enough blanks that it's still possible nobody lied about their votes, but if people did lie, then S&B is a pretty good candidate.
Another probable reason for your election was probably because of all the scummy scum below you (primarly maju)
This S&B case is interesting, ill be waiting for his reply though.
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S&B hasn´t talked to me very much in PMs. Apart from agreeing with me about the scumminess of a few specific players and giving me his opinion on another matter, we haven´t talked much, mostly because he takes so long to answer. He hasn´t so far admitted what his role is. I don´t know if it´s because he´s busy or scum. I really hope he´s not scum.
I agree about the Emperor vote, it´s very likely that Kaiser Acro got a few scumvotes so that Maju could inherit the title.
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On May 15 2012 19:35 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 07:54 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
lol, sinani was actually scum this time. Fake surprise?
I actually thought exactly the same thing when I read this.
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On May 15 2012 20:16 Quatol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 19:35 Acrofales wrote:On May 14 2012 07:54 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
lol, sinani was actually scum this time. Fake surprise? I actually thought exactly the same thing when I read this.
Dear Quatol
Please do shit
Sincerely
Town
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On May 15 2012 20:19 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 20:16 Quatol wrote:On May 15 2012 19:35 Acrofales wrote:On May 14 2012 07:54 YES_THIS_IS_DOG wrote:
lol, sinani was actually scum this time. Fake surprise? I actually thought exactly the same thing when I read this. Dear Quatol Please do shit Sincerely Town
Okay.
Let's hang doggy?
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Sinani wanted to marry nisani but didn't, so seems to me they weren't in contact out of the thread
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Sup bros, still thinking about Nisani's proposal, gonna read through what I missed on what I can comment.
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On May 15 2012 19:39 zelblade wrote:Companion Cube I am a bishop. This allows me to once per night, declare someone a heretic and have their role revealed with the daypost. My power was demonstarted today with the relevation of Drazerk's role. I did so in order to check if he indeed had some wierd role which might have a posting restriction. However, my role was too publicly displayed for all to see, similarly to how drazerk's was. This leads me to confirm a suspision I have long had - that there is another bishop. I first thought bishop was a town role, only later realising that it was a probable scum role as well as it did not reveal alignment. I am 100% sure the other bishop is Companion Cube. Show nested quote +IF YOU WERE ABLE TO REVEAL ANYONE'S HIDDEN POTENTIAL (POWERS), WHOM WOULD YOU CHOOSE? Show nested quote +IT IS SORT OF RELATED TO WHY I DON'T WANT TO BECOME A BISHOP.
YOU SEE, THE HIGH BELIEVERS OF CATHOLICS WILL NOT LET ME MARRY ANYONE. Now why do I think that companion cube is scum? It makes no sense for a town bishop to check me, especially since he has revealed 0 suspisions about me before hand. Why would a scum bishop do this? I was probably ozzing blue primarly due to the fact I tried to hint to him that I was a bishop too (Remember at that time I didnt think that bishop was a probable scum role). As such, I am relatively sure that his check was used similarly to a regular rolecops', and lucked out with getting a chancellor at the same time Besides all that, Companion Cube also has done next to nothing. After a failed bid for empress, he has since dissapeared, proceeding to do next to nothing bar giving crappy excuses for his complete and utter lack of activity. Oh and hes pending to be modkilled at this rate but I'll recommend our Kaiser to have the honour of lynching this scumcube assuming he comes back, unless he comes back and gives a VERY good reason for the check or he claims something else (Which has to be really believable), and explain his utter lack of activity.
TYPO
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Lol. Zelblade... the original version was right.
@Carolus: it's confirmed Sinani did not marry doggy by merit of me redistributing his title. However, I fail to see how that exculpates them from being scumbuddies.
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I agree, with the reasons on S&B, as well as Companion Cube.
But, I am a steadfast supporter of my case and therefore will Vote Mattchew.
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Holy fuck i fail at reading
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Yo bluelightz, do you have a title role, or a different role that explicitly mentions you have votes? If you do, please say how many votes you have.
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Same question for Quatol (again) and everybody else who does not yet have a number behind his name in this spreadsheet.
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On May 15 2012 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
Yo bluelightz, do you have a title role, or a different role that explicitly mentions you have votes? If you do, please say how many votes you have.
No titles afaik and nothing in my pm Explains anything about how many votes I have.
also, bluelightz is in the process of testing and should not be disturbed
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A few things:
1. Regarding the throwaway vote: I agree that normally I'm a meticulous player, and wouldn't do that kind of thing. However, at the start of this game no one was playing very seriously, and neither was I. Look at the start of bastard mafia for another example of me doing a similar thing, starting off the game by trolling before I realized people were taking it seriously; also look at my anti cat party post. Also you'll note that I waited to claim my retarded vote until after I'd asked and been told that I couldn't change it to a vote for a real candidate. At the time I voted, there weren't actually any real candidates, just the cat party, and I thought I might be able to change my vote if a real race happened. That turned out not to be true.
2. If you guys think I'm lurking at the same level as the actual lurkers then you're pretty whacked out. I'm on vacation with my family in Florida, hence the inability to acess the thread except on my phone. But I'm not gonna apologize for not posting more, because I probably wouldn't have posted any more anyway, I don't like to post unless I have something worthwhile to say.
3. I was on a plane. Is it hard to believe that I'm afraid of getting modkilled in a caller game?
http://t.co/9RDdf3Hc
Sup.
4. Figuring out who smurfs are became important when wbg posted that scumclaim. Plus if you look at qs7, up until maju flipped scum knowing who he was was important to knowing his alignment; he was showing town behavior for ace but scum for most other players.
5. The atlas kill was a dumb kill, I maintain that position.
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Okay. I have read Bluelightz's filter carefully. I get the distinct feeling that he doesn't really give a shit who gets lynched.
He has a mutual tunneling war going on with Mattchew, which is distracting from the content of the rest of his posts, which is really just a sort of "any way the wind blows" nonchalance.
Bluelightz on Maju:
On May 12 2012 00:56 Bluelightz wrote:
As Carolus is insisting very hard, and well its taht hes sandrogism, I will vote Maju to help secure the lynch.
##Vote MajuGarzett
While I previously read this as "Carolus is a hydra of two good players and I trust their reads more than my own, so I will sheep their vote", I am leaning more towards "who gives a shit. I wanted Mattchew, but Maju is fine too" now.
Bluelightz on Adam:
+ Show Spoiler [is Adam scum?] +On May 12 2012 11:14 Bluelightz wrote:
Guys, compare to this: Adam was atleast active, shared his reads, made up his own reasons to vote in Mr Wiggles Mini Mafia II (He was townie) day 1.
Here, what does he do? lurk for around 36-48 hours, does not try to be helpful, keeps his reads secret, and just throws out "X is scum k?" without explaining ANYTHING. Adam is scum! On May 14 2012 19:37 Bluelightz wrote:
Could I get Kurumi's role PM as I inherit his role?
Suspicions and opinions:
Adam4167: He is town, he's uber trolling this game, let him do his shit, ignore all of his posts.
Mattchew: Still suspicious, He keeps on persisting on never responding to my case, not trying to bring up new stuff to discussion and when pressed insists if we put together his posts on a certain person we can conclude it into a case, but actually for example on Jitsu he only has two post's about it(thanks acro).
Anymore opinions/suspicions just ask.Adam is town! In the meantime, Adam had said exactly one thing: Blabla I'm town blabla. On May 14 2012 20:59 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 20:57 Forumite wrote:On May 14 2012 20:50 Bluelightz wrote:
Just thinking for a sec but:
I think we could, organize a system for the lynch, so that the lynchee has to marry teh person we think should receive his role( If that guy and the lynchee hasn't married though ), The safe cap is that Town will automatically do this so their role could be used the following night(right?), and if their scum, giving out their role to town doesnt seem a great idea for them lol.
Calling this plan stupid is fine if you add why it is stupid. It is stupid because we can´t plan ahead who to lynch and scum would just secretly marry ahead of time to keep their roles in the "family". Also some people have married allready. Anyway Kaiser Acro is town and he takes care of roles when townies die. BL, I want to know why Adam shouldn´t die today. Adam is being MrZentor in WoF, get it now? Would scum go this far? I get that hes stupid but i dont think would pull this stunt. Adam is still town. On May 14 2012 21:05 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2012 21:04 Forumite wrote:On May 14 2012 20:59 Bluelightz wrote:On May 14 2012 20:57 Forumite wrote:On May 14 2012 20:50 Bluelightz wrote:
Just thinking for a sec but:
I think we could, organize a system for the lynch, so that the lynchee has to marry teh person we think should receive his role( If that guy and the lynchee hasn't married though ), The safe cap is that Town will automatically do this so their role could be used the following night(right?), and if their scum, giving out their role to town doesnt seem a great idea for them lol.
Calling this plan stupid is fine if you add why it is stupid. It is stupid because we can´t plan ahead who to lynch and scum would just secretly marry ahead of time to keep their roles in the "family". Also some people have married allready. Anyway Kaiser Acro is town and he takes care of roles when townies die. BL, I want to know why Adam shouldn´t die today. Adam is being MrZentor in WoF, get it now? Would scum go this far? I get that hes stupid but i dont think would pull this stunt. What are you talking about? Adam isn´t a MrZentor, MrZentor was active and confrontational, while Adam is just a scummy lurker who hasn´t done anything in this game. He´s like Bard and Sinani, does nothing but won´t get modkilled because they vote and post once each day. Fine, but im gonna wait for his next post (if he post's again -_-) to see about that, if he doesnt post well, I'm gonna hop on I guess. Bah, if you guys want to lynch Adam, I will go along with it.
There is a distinct lack of security in his reads, or conviction in his play. It may be that he is just lost and has no decent reads (as in I'm a cop, you idiot). However, as Mattchew pointed out, his play in WoF mafia was much better. He was assertive, sometimes even cocky, in his reads and what he wanted to do in the game.
This game, all he has done is tunnel Mattchew and sheep Carolus or general consensus vote. In another player this would be a pretty sure sign of not giving a fuck.
That said, I don't think he's scum, because the D1 voting makes no fucking sense if he's scum (unless all scum is fucking retarded and was afk all day). However, if we want to lynch third party players, I think bluelightz is a good option.
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Acro I assume ur using your lynch on CC. Or someone else?
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