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Mackem

United Kingdom470 Posts

July 21 2012 18:40 GMT

#23521

I was just trying stuff for the fun of it, heh. Can't really do a lot unless I try some new RAM.

Puph

Canada635 Posts

July 21 2012 19:13 GMT

#23522

http://cdn.overclock.net/6/6b/6b911bac_basiccomputerscrews.jpeg Well, I used a screw that looks like C or D except it's completely dome shaped, to secure my motherboard on the stand offs. Inside my case's supplies were 7 screws that looked like A and 2 screws that were slightly bulkier and longer than A for a total of nine. I am curious if the dome-screws i used which look like the third one in this series to secure my motherboard are inadequate for the job.

Edit: I used 6 of those dome heads to secure the MB. ASRock Extreme4, small MB!
I hope I am much clearer this time around

Medrea

10003 Posts

July 21 2012 20:57 GMT

#23523

On July 21 2012 17:26 Linz wrote:

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Well, I'd need him end of September, so building it anytime from now until September.

Edit: oh, and could you explain why exactly:

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Way overpriced. So far overpriced it is laughable, but people throw money at them anyway.

And people who own Alienware arent taken seriously by the rest of the community. No one wants to help an Alienware owner because, who cares? They are just gonna throw money at the problem anyway.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

July 21 2012 22:15 GMT

#23524

That said, if you want a small-form-factor (uh, of a particularly small form factor and shape) desktop for reasonable-quality gaming, it's not like you can build anything like the Alienware X51 from off-the-shelf components.

It's still a bit overpriced regardless, and the more expensive options are more egregious and don't have any real advantages.

If you have a lot more money than time, don't really care about what you get, and can't afford a higher-end system from a boutique (nothing that terribly wrong with these things IMHO), then Alienware can make some sense. Some competitors offer similar systems though, not that I'd recommend those for most people anyway.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 21 2012 23:56 GMT

#23525

On July 22 2012 02:21 Myrmidon wrote:
JH, didn't you have some RAM issue (one channel went out?) that was caused by the CPU not being seated completely properly? CPU cooler got knocked around?

It may be worth just reseating everything. Memory controller is on the CPU die, after all. Also, quadruple-check that the 24-pin ATX connector is very firmly seated. 3.3V for the memory VRMs comes through there, and loose connectors cause some voltage droop. I'd tend not to blame the CPU in general, since those are hard to destroy.

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If it is mechanically stable, then it should be okay. I can't really tell what you're trying to say though.

Yes, I did. Reseating the CPU fixed it. Even a light bump can cause it. All I had done, IIRC, was swap the fan on my cooler, and with the little clips cooler master gives you, I've changed them and moved them and taken them off to dust a bunch of times without trouble.

Just one of those things.

Pokemonxoxo

United States217 Posts

July 22 2012 01:14 GMT

#23526

Hey guys I am having some issue with a computer of mine. This has been ongoing for about a month, but the problem has escalated to the point where my computer would turn on with the fans running, but my monitor would be black or blank. So my issue at first is when I was playing games usually League of Legends I would get a "display driver 296.10 has stopped responding and been restored" or something on that line every once in a while when I am playing the game. I thought of a way to fix that by deleting my old driver and reinstalling a the latest nvidia driver. The computer was better for a while, but now I can't even turn my computer on. At first I can turn my computer to the BIOS screen where windows would load, but the computer screen would go black while my computer is still running. I have no idea how to fix this issue and I am trying to remount my computer right now in hopes of fixing the problem. Personally I think that my video card is the problem, but I want to be sure before I go out and buy another video card. My computer spec is as follows:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 black edition
GPU: GTX 550ti 1G superclocked
PSU: Cooler Master Elite Series Power Supply - 460 Watts, ATX
RAM: 2x4GB Crucial Ballistix
Hard Drive: 500gb Seagate
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 AMD 9 series

myzael

Poland605 Posts

July 22 2012 15:15 GMT

#23527

This would be a partial repost from my earlier post

I am planning building a new PC. The one focus for it is to be as silent as possible can be when not under load while still supporting newest games. I currently have a silent build and am infuriated by loud PCs. I play with headsets on mostly, so loudness under load is a much smaller issue.

So here goes the form:

What is your budget?

I'd say 5k PLN (~1,5k $) for the PC to give the general idea, but it could be extended in reasonable bounds (read: not doubled preferably

).

What is your resolution?

1920x1200 is the minimum. 2560x1600/1440 is preferable as I plan to upgrade my monitor.

What are you using it for?

I'm a programmer/CS student so the main focus would be: coding, gaming, computing, some graphical editing (but not the main focus in the foreseeable future).

What is your upgrade cycle?

As for programming any build will suffice for years and I do not see myself gaming that much in future

When do you plan on building it?

I'd like to finish it before September.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I have no idea. Some slight OC maybe but nothing extreme as I prefer stable and silent builds.

Do you need an Operating System?

No (Linux/Windows from MSDNAA).

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I'd guess no. Integrated + dedicated graphics card combo will support 3 monitors, won't it?

Where are you buying your parts from?

Well, somewhere in Europe, preferably in Poland. Here is the biggest price comparator for Poland, but please take it with a grain of salt. Many prices are skewed and some parts might be missing.

Additional stuff

I would prefer i7 because i run multiple builds/compilations at the same time.
I thought of buying a good soundcard and a headphone amplifier but they are not crucial (and not a computer resource I guess). The important thing here is that I have minimal knowledge of computer sound cards, so please bear this in mind.

Thanks in advance for any advice. You guys rock.

Rachnar

France1526 Posts

July 22 2012 15:21 GMT

#23528

If you don't really want to overclock, and if sound is much of an issue, you could get a passive heatsink for your cpu

what games would you be playing? that will influence greatly on the gpu choice in this situation

and really how much of an issue is the sound? You want a REALLY quiet computer at idle, like almost not noticing it? or a simple non obnoxious sound computer?

myzael

Poland605 Posts

July 22 2012 15:26 GMT

#23529

Now i have a build core2duo-ish build with 120mm slow fans. The loudest thing is the hard drive spinning. So i guess that falls into the category of "almost not noticing it"

Rachnar

France1526 Posts

July 22 2012 15:43 GMT

#23530

Will you be salvaging some stuff? If you already have a good case, psu or whatever, will you be reusing?

also what games will you be playing?

myzael

Poland605 Posts

July 22 2012 16:17 GMT

#23531

No, my brother will inherit the old PC

I do not plan to play that many demanding games, I think a fair measurement would be to play witcher 2 on max settings. Other than that just some casual sc2 or other games that any modern PC would handle.

Rachnar

France1526 Posts

July 22 2012 16:34 GMT

#23532

Well the witcher 2 on max at such a resolution is not exactly the definition of not demanding :p

Anyhow, at such a high resolution as 2560*1600, you would a gtx 670 i guess for max settings? Asus direct cu ii would be nice for noise level
Witcher 2 on high res

For the case you would want to be getting a corsair 550d or antec p280 most probably, good cases for a quiet build

but i'm not the best for these sort of builds (or any, if ti comes ot it), you better wait for skyr, myrmidon or anybody that knows more then me

Shauni

4077 Posts

July 22 2012 17:10 GMT

#23533

On July 23 2012 01:17 myzael wrote:
No, my brother will inherit the old PC

Sounds like you want something like my previous build?

GTX 670 passive
i5 3570k passive (But I think ivy bridge i7 can also run passive np)
Asrock Z77 Extreme4m (or similar matx motherboard)
Silverstone PS07B
some SSDs (model not important)
some 500rpm noctua or similar low noise fans
Superflower Goden Silent 500w (or maybe Seasonic 400/460FL)

No noise whatsoever, just as inaudible when you do nothing as when you play witcher 2 on max.

Praet0r

4 Posts

July 22 2012 17:34 GMT

#23534

To myzael from poland:

Here is a suggestion:
Case: Fractal r3 http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Fractal_Design/Define_R3/926798/?
PSU: Corsair 600w http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Corsair/CMPSU-600CXV2EU/868342/?
Mobo: Asus P8H77 V http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/ASUS/P8H77-V/991217/?
CPU: Core i5 3450 http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Intel(R)/i5-3450/965967/?
RAM: 8GB 1333 http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/G.Skill/8GB_DDR3_DIMM/792154/?
SSD: Mushkin Chronos 120GB http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Mushkin/Chronos/895794/?
HDD: WD 1TB http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Western_Digital/WD_Caviar_Green/985241/?
GFX: Sapphire Radeon 7850 http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/SAPPHIRE/HD_7850_OC_2GB_GDDR5/990003/?
DVD: Sony http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Sony_Optiarc/AD-7280S/886566/?
Monitor: Iiyama 22" 2ms HD http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Iiyama/E2273HDS-1/872758/?

total: 5004 zloty

De case is very silent, I couldn't fit an intel i7 or a monitor with 2560 resolution in this build. The SSD is to make windows startup and loading programs faster. I choose the 7850 because nvidia didn't really have anything in range from the last generation videocards.

You still need a mouse, keyboard and headset. Another audiocard couldn't be fit in your price range.
I made this build on this shop, because it is all over Europe and because of its stock it's simply the newegg.com of europe.

It's probably not the cheapest shop but if I would be using multiple sites I;d be busy for a day.

Leeto

United States1320 Posts

July 22 2012 23:05 GMT

#23535

I'm looking to build a new computer for family use and light school stuff, budget ~500$. I just need to be able to run league of legends on medium to high graphics. Can I get away with using the integrated graphics on the intel core i-series and not buying a video card?

What is your budget?
$500

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly everyday work and school stuff, plus League of Legends

What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years

When do you plan on building it?
This month

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg probably

Rachnar

France1526 Posts

July 23 2012 00:07 GMT

#23536

You can, but without OC'ing, without OS, and just for light stuff, you can have an i3 AND a gpu

BitFenix Merc Beta 39.99

500GB 7200rpm HDD 69.99

Random burner 17.00

Antec VP-450 37.99

2x2 GB ram 21.99

ASRock H61M-DGS 44.99

i3-2100 119.99

This totals to 351.94

you can add a HD7770 for 109.99 and with a 20$ mail in rebate

Another possibility is to add a 64gb crucial M4 SSD for 71.99

with this in, total 533.92$ and a 20$ mail in rebate, you can take out the SSD and/or GPU if you do not want them

myzael

Poland605 Posts

July 23 2012 05:53 GMT

#23537

On July 23 2012 02:34 Praet0r wrote:
To myzael from poland:

Here is a suggestion:
Case: Fractal r3 http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Fractal_Design/Define_R3/926798/?
PSU: Corsair 600w http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Corsair/CMPSU-600CXV2EU/868342/?
Mobo: Asus P8H77 V http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/ASUS/P8H77-V/991217/?
CPU: Core i5 3450 http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Intel(R)/i5-3450/965967/?
RAM: 8GB 1333 http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/G.Skill/8GB_DDR3_DIMM/792154/?
SSD: Mushkin Chronos 120GB http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Mushkin/Chronos/895794/?
HDD: WD 1TB http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Western_Digital/WD_Caviar_Green/985241/?
GFX: Sapphire Radeon 7850 http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/SAPPHIRE/HD_7850_OC_2GB_GDDR5/990003/?
DVD: Sony http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Sony_Optiarc/AD-7280S/886566/?
Monitor: Iiyama 22" 2ms HD http://www.alternate.pl/html/product/Iiyama/E2273HDS-1/872758/?

total: 5004 zloty

De case is very silent, I couldn't fit an intel i7 or a monitor with 2560 resolution in this build. The SSD is to make windows startup and loading programs faster. I choose the 7850 because nvidia didn't really have anything in range from the last generation videocards.

You still need a mouse, keyboard and headset. Another audiocard couldn't be fit in your price range.
I made this build on this shop, because it is all over Europe and because of its stock it's simply the newegg.com of europe.

It's probably not the cheapest shop but if I would be using multiple sites I;d be busy for a day.

I've never explicitly mentioned it, but I don't need any peripherals or monitors. Also the 5k PLN mark is just to give a general idea about price range. I'd say 6k is an absolute maximum though.

On July 23 2012 02:10 Shauni wrote:

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Do you have the specific full build anywhere? I am intrigued. And what you mean by passive CPU cooling? No fan at CPU heatsink at all? And won't the GPU overheat while gaming? Please, bear with me, I am a noob when it comes to building PCs.

Pwnographics

New Zealand1097 Posts

July 23 2012 05:56 GMT

#23538

I think you should get a Fractal R4! :D

LeafMeAlone

United States301 Posts

July 23 2012 06:13 GMT

#23539

Hi, my birthday is coming up relatively soon and I'm looking to upgrade my laptop. I posted earlier in this thread a long long time ago but it kind of got passed over. I have a Lenovo Thinkpad E520 (Link Here). I'm pretty sure this is what I got, the specs are the same but idk if 11433EU is relevant. I've been searching for a while but I'm not a computer guru so a lot of it passes over my head and I need help. Right now my computer has the i3 but I want something faster that can play SC2 (on Low) while streaming if it's possible. My friend said heat is going to be a big issue with getting a more powerful CPU so I also need help to cool it if possible.

I think these links might be relevant:
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I'm planning to put the laptop off to the side and use a desktop monitor/keyboard/mouse connected to the laptop. Like I've seen the pros do, so I think it'd be easier to cool in it's own little place.

Price range: Unlimited, for both CPU and cooling fans.

SpaceFighting

New Zealand690 Posts

July 23 2012 06:26 GMT

#23540

What is your budget?
around ~1.2k NZD (so around ~1k USD)

What is your resolution?
1920,1200

What are you using it for?
Im a Comp Sci student so programming, gaming... (mostly Sc2 and D3, others like tf2, cs1.6, dota 2, LoL)

What is your upgrade cycle?
hopefully 2years, but i really dont mind upgrading within 1-2 years

When do you plan on building it?
Before September this year

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, might OC a little but most likely i wouldn't want to spend the extra on cooling/MOBOs etc.

Do you need an Operating System?
Nope

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope

Where are you buying your parts from?
Multiple amount of websites, a famous website that stores prices from a range of NZ based sites is: http://pricespy.co.nz
so this is where i would usually get a quote from.

as im new to Comp Sci (first semester) and I've never been really studying up on parts and such (all i do is play games on my pc, dont really research as to whats good, what determines what components are good etc.) this will be my first time building a PC.

I have been looking around independently to what I think I would need and this is what ive come up with so far:
MSI P67A-GD65 (MOBO)
2x4gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 (RAM)
Intel Core i5 3450 3.1Ghz (CPU)
1GB Sapphire Radeon HD6850 (GPU)
all around 775 NZD

havent really looked much further than that for a PSU, Tower/Chassis, HDD... are the items i listed abit to much for what my needs are? Also i do not need any peripherals, just components.

thanks in advanced for any help.

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