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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 22:56 GMT
#2261
"CLEARLY SARCASM"

i love that defense

i read your entire post, i just filter the relevant information
KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 19 2010 22:57 GMT
#2262
with half the game being scum right now, I would bet money that the people asking to be the leader of the town are scum
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
zerroth
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada173 Posts
October 19 2010 23:21 GMT
#2263
or you are scum and the leaders are not
With no power, comes no responsibility.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
October 19 2010 23:23 GMT
#2264
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 02:18 GMT
#2265
another advertisement:

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aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 20 2010 02:24 GMT
#2266
I know but it's frustrating as hell to start off with a good lynch and then lose half of the townies from there (i know i'm exaggerating).

I mean, couldn't the modkills be mafia? Why does the town have to suffer from inactivity. In a game with 2x the number of reds, we can't lose these many people with just making ONE correct guess.

So far, my "gut feeling" told me to vote for Masq (which I did, and got some ppl to come along as well), NOT vote for Veldril (but I did it anyway, since if I hadn't, it would look like I would've gone back on my "word" - that if Masq is red then most likely so is veld, even though I stated that Veld may just be a newbie who overreacted), and now, that BM's replacement would sink us all, and it kinda did.

How we have to start from scratch, but we have a lot of suspects. The only thing we NEED to do is weed out some that are most likely mafia, maybe based on fking decent clues now, not like the silver hammer that was a clue in Night 0 when Player X wasn't even here. (NOT saying artanis or whoever is NOT red, but reasoning like that is what gets us in the middle of an empty field).

So how about focusing more on clues, and weeding out people who are not helping (lurkers, spammers, etc). I hope the reds go after Aztrorisk now, since 2 JoLs are already down. I'm really curious if he's a bad townie player or a really bad red player.


Thats fine by me. I'll just leave a pumpkin at your house. I wanna see if your a really bad townie or a really obvious bad guy.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 20 2010 03:21 GMT
#2267
Here comes my Day 2 clue analysis

Somewhere deep in the town, bumatlarge was sitting alone at a bar at midnight. He wasn't alone, there was another man sitting in the corner. The man stared at bum, making him nervous and jittery. As he started pounding down more drinks the man approached him. He was thin and gaunt, he appeared to be a scholar of some sort. The man finally spoke

"Excuse me sir, I believe you've had too much to drink. Do you need a ride home?"

bumatlarge chuckled to himself. He'd just have to accept the ride and he could kill this odd stranger with his pure brute strength.

"Yes, I do." Bum smirked. Surely this thin man would be no match for the vampire brute.

As bumatlarge stepped into the mans car, he began to laugh. But he wasn't laughing when a revolver was pressed against his temple. With one shot, his brains were sprayed out of the window of the car and it drove off into the night never to be seen again.

First thing that stands out to me is "scholar of some sort." But this is also a very vague statement in my opinion as many people can be a scholar at something.
1. a learned or erudite person, esp. one who has profound knowledge of a particular subject.
2. a student; pupil.
Thin and gaunt can basically be discarded as a clue as most deaths seem to have that.

Can musicians be considered scholar? If so, lots of people can be added to the list(I'm disregarding it as I don't want to list 10 people)

If it follows the student definition, it means that a lot of people are basically suspected as most people here are in college or high school I presume. But only people in college put something in their profile as college students, and here they are:
1.grandmoose - Majoring in Math.
2.jcarlsoniv - Double Major in Math and Business.
3.MetalFace - Economics
4.LuckTar - Philosphy

Additional things besides being a student that could relate to being a scholar(a bit of a long shot):
5.kingjames01 - Apparently his name "King James I" is considered scholar in real life.
6.quickstriker - Picture of Lelouch <3. Lelouch is an extremely smart guy so he might be considered a scholar.
7.Nemesis - I can't be biased now, same thing as quickstriker.

Now that we have the scholar part is over, the next thing that stood out to me is "began to laugh" so that infers that something looks funny, maybe the car. This one I had a rather hard time finding anything. The closest thing I could find is the troll face:
8.KtheZ - Still a bit of a long shot though.

Now the other thing is that this seemed to happen "inside" the car once again. "Stepped into the man's car." Although, there are lots of deaths around cars, there is only two deaths that actually happen inside the car. This and the silenced gunshot death.
9.kenpachi - Only person with something in his profile relating to a car. Next closest thing is a "train" which is a very long shot.

In summary, I hate this clue. It is too vague and points to too many people. I would suggest narrowing it down first by checking the "scholar" part first which would remove more than half the suspects. And I suggest that someone do a follow-up analysis on this clue after that had been done.



A few miles east of that bar, LSB was lurking the Liquidvanian pumpkin patch. He happened across a huge pumpkin. It would be perfect for a bomb! Excited, LSB took the pumpkin and loaded it into his truck.

As he drove home he could have sworn he heard meowing somewhere in his car. He disregarded it at first, but as it grew louder he stopped his truck and got out to inspect it. As he peered in the window of his backseat he felt what seemed to be huge claws dig into his temple, crushing his skull and ending his life. As he bled to death on the floor, shards of his skull swimming around in his now liquified brain, he pressed a small button on his wrist: blowing up the pumpkin he had left at the home of youngminii.

The "meowing" was confirmed as part of the clue according to someone in the thread and this pretty much points to brownbear who was killed by vampires during the night phase.


RebirthOfLeGenD had holed himself in his home, hoping to avoid the mass murders that were occuring across liquidia. As he sat spinning about in his computer chair, he smelled something awful coming from his restroom. The smell made his eyes well up with tears and he rushed to the bathroom to see what it is and hopefully clean it up.

A man stood in his bathroom, wearing a pinstriped fedora. Rebirth tried to flee but a bullet met the back of his skull before he could take two steps out of the way.

For this I checked two things. First, is the something awful coming from the restroom. 2 People came up in my search:
1.kingjames01 - Zombie picture. Zombies have rotten flesh and rotten anything smells awful as hell.
2.=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=annul]annul - Pun on name? anus, something awful from the bathroom. Can Dr H confirm if username can be used as part of the clue?

The other part that stood out to me is the pin-striped fedora. Now there was no one in particular that had a fedora in their profile but these are the connections that I got:
1.Aeres - picture of a mafia(someone confirm this?) in his profile. Not necessarily fedora but mafias are known for wearing fedoras.
2.kingjames01 - His zombie profile has a hat, even though it is not necesseraly a fedora.
3.YummyBlaBla - This one is the LOOSEST correlation ever, I am just being extra careful with not excluding possible clues, but basically "striped" tiger in profile.

This is not really conclusive as it points to 3 to 4 people. I would suggest that the mad scientist try and find the real clue here.


Somewhere deep in the mafia headquarters, NB was sitting at his desk. The mafia were slowly rising up in the town of Liquidvania and he was quite pleased with himself. As he chuckled and drank whiskey he began to feel a chill across his skin. He looked to the window to make sure it wasn't left open but it was closed. The chill began to grow into a freezing cold and he could feel his heart slowing down. Eventually it stopped beating. Before he died a gaunt and pale man appeared before him. "This town belongs to the Count." the man snarled at him. With a single punch, NB's body was shattered to pieces.

For this death, there are only 2 possible clues here: Whiskey or alcohol, and "Chill" or something "Icy" seeing as "body was shattered to pieces" basically means his body was frozen. For alcohol, I couldn't really find anything in anyone's profile. For ice, a couple of people come up:
1. HeavOnEarth - "The cooler weather makes me unspeakably happy..."
2. [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ghrur] - "The man gazed into the snow."
3. [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Lucktar] - A Polar bear trying to eat apple frozen in ice for his picture.

For this one, I would suggest to Scientist to try and relate the clue to a specific person.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 20 2010 03:25 GMT
#2268
On October 20 2010 07:56 annul wrote:
"CLEARLY SARCASM"

i love that defense

i read your entire post, i just filter the relevant information

I thought he was the romanian one here XD

On October 20 2010 01:34 CubEdIn wrote:
I propose me as leader and we just take random shots at people I find suspicious (like lack of posts, funny names, "feels like a red").
I bet we'll do better than we did so far.

Tell me if that sounds like a serious post.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 20 2010 03:31 GMT
#2269
Can we please leave the sarcasm argument out of this now? I hope some serious PMing strategy is going down right now because this looks very grim for the town. Nemesis seems like he tried hard with his analysis of the clues but I agree on the fact that the clues don't really tell us much. Does anyone know how many blues are usually in a game of this size?
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 20 2010 03:42 GMT
#2270
I am more or less posting clue analysis to help the mad scientist and to check if a clue only points to one person like masq, then we can use it to lynch someone. Right now, there is only one clue that could point to one person and that is the clue for kingjames01 in day 1.

Kenpachi's clue in day 1 is also alone in my previous post, but I felt that my analysis about that clue was a bit lacking as I now realized that "silenced gunshot" can also point to multiple people.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 20 2010 03:43 GMT
#2271
Night phase will be ending soon, after I see the results I will sleep.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 04:01:54
October 20 2010 04:00 GMT
#2272
Dawn of the Fourth Day
48 hours remain...

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In the still of the night, the scum of Liquidvania went about their murdering spree with glee. The town was still reeling in shock from the disaster of the lynching that night and they were compltely unprepared for the brutal force with which the mafia and vampires would strike.

Artanis[Xp] was polishing his hammer in the garage when he heard a sound like metal dragging on the ground. He turned quickly toward the source of the noise, but saw nothing. He shrugged and continued working on his hammer when he felt something brush against his neck, it had fallen lightly on him from the ceiling. He looked up to see red eyes glowing back at him. His assailant dropped onto his body, rending his body with huge claws. He was found later that morning chained to the wall, his jaw removed from his skull.

Lucktar was spending the evening drinking away at a club. He tried unsucessfuly to gain the attention of some of the better looking women, scaring them off with his sleazy one liners and caked on cologne. He made his way to the bathroom that night, but he would never leave.

He shut the door of the bathroom behind him and turned to face a huge man. He felt a sense of impending dread, as though his life would end soon. The gigantic man grabbed him by the shoulders and delivered a headbutt so powerful it caved in the top of Lucktar's skull. He died slowly and painfully on the floor of a dirty bar restroom, a fitting end for a creep.

Across town, orgolove was doing shopping when he suddenly and unexplainedly dropped dead.

It was a quiet night at the Mothman Movie Theatre and thegilaboy was the only person in attendance for a midnight screening of The Rocky Horror Picture show. Or so he thought. The movie ended and he walked down the stairs of the dark theatre room, hearing a clanking behind him.

He turned to see an enormous shadow. Feeling threatened, thegilaboy leaped out and struck the large figure. Even though he possessed superhuman strength, the bones of his fist broke easily as he punched what seemed to be impenetrable armor. The figure simply picked thegilaboy off the ground and snapped his neck with one hand. He was found sitting upright in a chair with both of his eyes missing.

kingjames01 had returned home that night. He was tired from a long night of dastardly deeds and was ready to retire to his coffin. Out of the corner of his eye, he noticed a small piece of furniture in his den had moved. Curious he walked toward it, unaware of the man hiding around the corner.

He moved the chair back to its place and was then struck in the back of the head by a baseball bat. He crumpled to the floor, his killer laughing maniacally as he bashed kingjames' skull to pieces with the bat.

YummyBlaBla made a late night stop at the pharmacy for some pain medication. He was walking back to his truck in the dark parking lot when he heard a roar. The loud noise startled him. There are no lions or tigers in Liquivania, but what was waiting for him was much worse. He hurriedly made his way into the truck, but an arm grabbed him from the back and pulled him out. He felt a knife stab into the back of his neck and as soon as he died, his attacker had fled the scene.

With his dying breath, YummyBlaBla fished a small button out of his pocket and smashed it. A pumpkin exploded at the home of orgolove, who was already dead, and another at the home of Lexpar, who died in the fire that ensued.

Artanis[Xp] the Mafia Skeleton has been killed.
Lucktar the Creeper has been killed.
orgolove died.
kingjames01 the Poison Fang has been killed.
thegilaboy the Vampire Spawn has died.
YummyBlaBla the Jack O' Lantern has died.
Lexpar the Mafia Skeleton has died.
RIP Aaliyah
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 04:02 GMT
#2273
holy fuck four JOLs
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 20 2010 04:07 GMT
#2274
Wow four scum kills and neither side really has a huge advantage over the other. We might not be in such a bad position after all.

I take it that Orgolove was poisoned?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
October 20 2010 04:08 GMT
#2275
You win this round, but the Royal Vampire Company will avenge me!
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 20 2010 04:15 GMT
#2276
Damn, now that's a good night phase, the clues this time are a lot more straightforward.

Also, Doctor H, can clues be related to someone's username?
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 20 2010 04:17 GMT
#2277
We lost 3 men, Vampires lost 2, Mafia lost 2

Hmmm, It looks like even. Yet looking at these numbers are depressing since there is only 20 townsmen left.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 20 2010 04:18 GMT
#2278
Wow, that was a great read.

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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 20 2010 04:19 GMT
#2279
On October 20 2010 13:15 Nemesis wrote:
Damn, now that's a good night phase, the clues this time are a lot more straightforward.

Also, Doctor H, can clues be related to someone's username?

Yes, anything that appears in their public profile including name and quote.
RIP Aaliyah
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 20 2010 04:32 GMT
#2280
Hmm... more town deaths, but the Mafia and Vampires both have had losses. Hopefully, we still have a chance at winning this thing, long as the scum keep killing each other off.

The clues this time are a bit more apparent than yesterday's. In particular, kingjames01's killer shows an incriminating clue.

kingjames01 had returned home that night. He was tired from a long night of dastardly deeds and was ready to retire to his coffin. Out of the corner of his eye, he noticed a small piece of furniture in his den had moved. Curious he walked toward it, unaware of the man hiding around the corner.

He moved the chair back to its place and was then struck in the back of the head by a baseball bat. He crumpled to the floor, his killer laughing maniacally as he bashed kingjames' skull to pieces with the bat.

Hittegods also has a baseball bat in his profile. Something to make note of.
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