EPT
Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia IV - Page 11
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
| ||
|
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: It's time for my contribution. I actually had written up posts last game but never had a chance to actually post them up. I even had a Day 1 full defensive post but by the time I finished writing the tides have changed and rookie bandwagon couldn't be stopped and no longer had any reason to post it. Man that last game was hectic. take a look at this crock of shit. how come no one has called him out on this? hey last game i was actually getting my dick sucked by a fortune-telling gypsy, that's how i knew iGrok was mafia. and now that i've typed it it's true, no one can question me on it! no, freeloader, you hadn't written up any big posts last game. you're a bad player piggybacking off good players. put down the keyboard son, we don't want to read your essay full of non-logic. On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Early post of game gtrsrs attacks me based on no evidence at all. In fact as apprudds pointed out, his post reeks of oxymoron, his attack is, “your post doesn’t help” when in fact his post doesn’t help either. So aggressive, but I understand why you would do this. You want me to speak up and post more. This would be a pro town play. actually no you *don't* understand. i wasn't even attacking you here. in fact, my little grain of sand, i was pushing aprudds to not be so wishywashy. look at page 7 of this topic. aprudds pressures Drazerk and then IMMEDIATELY says "oh ho ho no no i'm not suspicious of you!" a couple posts later he jumps on freeloader's nuts then IMMEDIATELY says "nah brah i ain't mad lololol" DEFINITION of wishy-washy. my post was intended to get him to keep his pressure on. he claimed he'd attack anyone for anything to prevent a boring game? okay then don't back down (ironic in the end that it'd be me he keeps railing on :facepalm: ) On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Then his attitude changes from attacking to “no vote” passive play right when Drazerk picks up some serious heat with 3 votes and with "better evidence" than he had to attack me. Mighty scummy. Why wouldn't you wait to see his response? This play, gtrsrs makes a bunch of posts but at the end contradicts himself without seeming like it, therefore you just made your prior posts worthless. You seemed so out for blood earlier but now you don’t want any of it once drazerk is mentioned. You don't even wait for his defense. Why not? Weren't you pushing for all townies to speak up? Contradicting plays are usually what scum do, which in last game pushed the votes out and scored town the GF with a very close vote by one. You try to justify your change to passive play, while trying to convince all townies to do the same. You claim to be not defending when actually defending and buying time. You first wanted to attack players for information, but now you try to say we should back off, cut our losses instead and be completely passive. Er what? So are you trying to get information out of players or are you trying to seem like you are trying to get information from players? Typical scum play is early on pushing hard to seem pro town and gain credit, but then later on try to convince players to instead to do the anti town play without town realizing it. In this case the the antitown play would be not voting potential scum drazerk to see his reaction and do nothing instead. He hasn't even posted anything yet! i'm going to assume you're in second grade and they haven't taught you subtraction yet. let me set this up in a way that's easy to understand we have TWELVE (12) players this game. the 1 holds the ten's place, it doesn't mean 1 + 2. 10 + 2 = 12. when we subtract 1 from 12, we get 11. when we subtract 2 from 12 we get 10. when we subtract 3 from twelve we get 9. now, think back to the winning conditions of this game for mafia. when we lose enough townies, so that our town population equals that of mafia, we LOSE THE GAME. SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE WANT TO HASTE OURSELVES TO THAT POINT? you're claiming i'm mafia because i want to no-kill? YOU ARE RETARDED. MAFIA WANTS PEOPLE DEAD. if i was mafia i would explain why so-and-so are scum so we could lynch them with little-to-no-info. at the point i voted for lord vatti, we had NOTHING to go on. NOTHING. take a look again at what we gain by RANDOM lynching on day 1 with a modkill on the block. 1) we lose a townie in Lord Vatti (12 - 1 = 11) 2) from a townie standpoint, assuming that you wouldn't vote for yourself, and you're not voting for Lord Vatti, you have a 3/10 or 30% chance to kill mafia on day 1. 30% chance to... what exactly? we don't reduce their KP by killing them. if there even IS a roleblocker we've only a 33% chance (10% overall) to hit him. so 10% to give our hypothetical blues a free reign? now look at the MUCH higher probability of lynching a townie. 70 FUCKING PERCENT OF GIVING THE MAFIA A FREE KILL. do numbers even REGISTER in your head? are you willing to lynch on a 30% guess?? on day 1 with our votes spread out the mafia *will not bus*. they can dilute the votes enough to keep their scumbuddy from dying. we will not get that lucky on day 1 unless we have a really solid case, which we didn't. ON TOP OF THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A CHANCE OF RANDOM LYNCHING A BLUE. On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Yet you seems so fast to defend him. If he flips green we made the wrong choice but at least we have effectively increased our chance to lynch red by having a list of potential suspects based on voting patterns and bandwagon jumpers. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT THIS LIST? no, didn't defend him. claimed he was my FoS. i also said that as soon as Lord Vatti showed up and contributed, i would be happy to give my reasons to lynch Drazerk. if we're all present, and minimal suspicion is all we have to go on, i'm happy to go on that. but when we have a free mafia kill lined up, i'm not going to risk 70% chance of hitting a townie on a fucking HUNCH. i will make my case against Drazerk next if necessary but for now you WILL take your votes off me. scum is already bandwagoning onto me and losing me this early will be a dire mistake. in fact i will go so far as to say town will not win if i get lynched day 1. you are game-throwing if you vote for me. | ||
|
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
while you morons pile your votes onto me, please at least take the time to read the rest of the thread. here's a great example of mafia jumping onto a bandwagon started by a moron. On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote: It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself. I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him. To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore. I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is. ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: gtrsrs i bolded, underlined, and italicized the part to note, to make it easy for the second-graders amongst. us. hey Xedat, what defense was it that Drazerk made, exactly? here's all his posts between your vote for Lord Vatti, and your changing vote to me. please clarify which part of these posts qualifies as a "defense" On June 19 2011 22:11 Drazerk wrote: Right I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point So im going to say this Don't trust Gtrsrs (yes i know your on my side kinda ) when i flip Green, Which I will he will claim he knew it and try to abuse that town cred for his own good later in the game He's no where near as ruthless as the last game he's Either a power role trying to stay back or Scum Also Alderan is still lurking so be careful On June 19 2011 22:35 Drazerk wrote: If for what ever reason you decide not to kill me and waste a townie ... ##Unvote: Lord Vatti ##Vote: gtrsrs On June 19 2011 23:25 Drazerk wrote: Infact I see it as more the people that DON'T vote for me as more mafia as they know ill Flip green as so let town do their dirty work On June 19 2011 23:46 Drazerk wrote: People are going to lynch me for how much my posting habits change regardless I am now going to try and help you as much as possible as I know the situation you will be in after the lynch Also im a idiot I have established this throughout this game which part of that was his defense again? was it "I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point"? or was it "im a idiot"? maybe it was where he said "People are going to lynch me for how much my posting habits change regardless"? do these almost-english sentences register as a defense to anyone else? no. you are scum jumping on a bandwagon. On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote: It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself. I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him. To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore. I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is. ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: gtrsrs really? because he's acting much scummier than before. i think he's pretty much solidified himself as scum at this point. but of course, as his scumbuddy you wouldn't see it that way. you think he's in the clear now that the bandwagon is hopping onto me. huge mistake broski, you just revealed yourself as well. | ||
|
aprudds
Canada144 Posts
On June 20 2011 02:37 gtrsrs wrote: noob exhibition number 1: take a look at this crock of shit. how come no one has called him out on this? hey last game i was actually getting my dick sucked by a fortune-telling gypsy, that's how i knew iGrok was mafia. and now that i've typed it it's true, no one can question me on it! no, freeloader, you hadn't written up any big posts last game. you're a bad player piggybacking off good players. put down the keyboard son, we don't want to read your essay full of non-logic. actually no you *don't* understand. i wasn't even attacking you here. in fact, my little grain of sand, i was pushing aprudds to not be so wishywashy. look at page 7 of this topic. aprudds pressures Drazerk and then IMMEDIATELY says "oh ho ho no no i'm not suspicious of you!" a couple posts later he jumps on freeloader's nuts then IMMEDIATELY says "nah brah i ain't mad lololol" DEFINITION of wishy-washy. my post was intended to get him to keep his pressure on. he claimed he'd attack anyone for anything to prevent a boring game? okay then don't back down (ironic in the end that it'd be me he keeps railing on :facepalm: ) i'm going to assume you're in second grade and they haven't taught you subtraction yet. let me set this up in a way that's easy to understand we have TWELVE (12) players this game. the 1 holds the ten's place, it doesn't mean 1 + 2. 10 + 2 = 12. when we subtract 1 from 12, we get 11. when we subtract 2 from 12 we get 10. when we subtract 3 from twelve we get 9. now, think back to the winning conditions of this game for mafia. when we lose enough townies, so that our town population equals that of mafia, we LOSE THE GAME. SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE WANT TO HASTE OURSELVES TO THAT POINT? you're claiming i'm mafia because i want to no-kill? YOU ARE RETARDED. MAFIA WANTS PEOPLE DEAD. if i was mafia i would explain why so-and-so are scum so we could lynch them with little-to-no-info. at the point i voted for lord vatti, we had NOTHING to go on. NOTHING. take a look again at what we gain by RANDOM lynching on day 1 with a modkill on the block. 1) we lose a townie in Lord Vatti (12 - 1 = 11) 2) from a townie standpoint, assuming that you wouldn't vote for yourself, and you're not voting for Lord Vatti, you have a 3/10 or 30% chance to kill mafia on day 1. 30% chance to... what exactly? we don't reduce their KP by killing them. if there even IS a roleblocker we've only a 33% chance (10% overall) to hit him. so 10% to give our hypothetical blues a free reign? now look at the MUCH higher probability of lynching a townie. 70 FUCKING PERCENT OF GIVING THE MAFIA A FREE KILL. do numbers even REGISTER in your head? are you willing to lynch on a 30% guess?? on day 1 with our votes spread out the mafia *will not bus*. they can dilute the votes enough to keep their scumbuddy from dying. we will not get that lucky on day 1 unless we have a really solid case, which we didn't. ON TOP OF THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A CHANCE OF RANDOM LYNCHING A BLUE. no, didn't defend him. claimed he was my FoS. i also said that as soon as Lord Vatti showed up and contributed, i would be happy to give my reasons to lynch Drazerk. if we're all present, and minimal suspicion is all we have to go on, i'm happy to go on that. but when we have a free mafia kill lined up, i'm not going to risk 70% chance of hitting a townie on a fucking HUNCH. i will make my case against Drazerk next if necessary but for now you WILL take your votes off me. scum is already bandwagoning onto me and losing me this early will be a dire mistake. in fact i will go so far as to say town will not win if i get lynched day 1. you are game-throwing if you vote for me. Well, I have to take a page out of your book and say LOL U MAD BRO? U SOUND BUTTHURT. LOLOLOLOLOL SO DEFENSIVE U MUST BE SCUM LAWLS>>>>>!>!>!>!>!> This entire rage post makes you look like a fool. You still haven't made a case. How about you make your case and let people to decide who to vote for. You can't blame people for wanting to vote you when your suggesting 'we shouldn't lynch and wait for 100% confirmation.' HUGE contrast back to last game where you didn't have any problems tunneling the shit out of someone day one. Don't you dare criticize me for being wishy washy when you don't even have the balls to accuse anyone of anything. You suggest we sit here herping and derping wasting a lynch and waiting for modkills. Get off your high horse, swallow your bloody pride and give people an actual reason to not kill your sketchy ass other then "IM NOT SCUM AND IF YOU VOTE FOR ME YOU MUST BE SCUM." | ||
|
aprudds
Canada144 Posts
| ||
|
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On June 19 2011 22:11 Drazerk wrote: Right I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point So im going to say this Don't trust Gtrsrs (yes i know your on my side kinda ) when i flip Green, Which I will he will claim he knew it and try to abuse that town cred for his own good later in the game He's no where near as ruthless as the last game he's Either a power role trying to stay back or Scum Also Alderan is still lurking so be careful Are we letting this post slide? Drazerk is in serious danger of getting lynched and this is his defense? I'm not ready to switch my vote just yet (obviously I will switch before a modkill, just sifting through the mindless drivel), as you just seem like a disinterested green but you have got to provide more than "well maybe grstrs is scummy, and maybe Alderan is scummy". That being said I'm looking for a response. Give us some analysis on freeloader's grstrs post, for gods sake give us something to keep us from wasting a lynch on you if you are indeed town. This is a general statement but please town do not go down without a fight if we are about to miss lynch. It happens every game a couple of times and it is one of the most frustrating things that can happen, aside from Mod Kills. Happy Father's Day kids, I have some stuff with my dad this afternoon, should be back before the vote no problem though. | ||
|
Alderan
United States463 Posts
| ||
|
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On June 20 2011 02:52 aprudds wrote: Don't you dare criticize me for being wishy washy when you don't even have the balls to accuse anyone of anything. You suggest we sit here herping and derping wasting a lynch and waiting for modkills. i swear to god i got teleported back to the second grade why are you so stuck on this "wasting" a lynch thing i did the fucking math, please read my post at least it's like you people have already forgotten that we had FORTY (40, four times ten, the four holds the ten's place) players last game. we could afford random lynches and shitty bandwagons in the beginning. we have TWELVE people this game. a lynch is worth FOUR LYNCHES from last game. would you have randomly lynched four days in a row last game if four townies got modkilled on day 1? i sure as shit hope not. i'm not being more passive this game i'm being more conservative. there's a difference. we gain nothing by random lynching today. take your heads out of your asses and this fucking "wasted" lynch mindset. just use your imagination and pretend we had a huge case against Lord Vatti instead. pretend he's posted a lot and we're 100% convinced he's scum. now vote for him. now it's not a "wasted" lynch it's just a mislynch. is that better? jesus i swear to god i'm going to shoot my dick off if i have to explain the math one more time | ||
|
aprudds
Canada144 Posts
| ||
|
Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 20 2011 02:58 Alderan wrote: Are we letting this post slide? Drazerk is in serious danger of getting lynched and this is his defense? I'm not ready to switch my vote just yet (obviously I will switch before a modkill, just sifting through the mindless drivel), as you just seem like a disinterested green but you have got to provide more than "well maybe grstrs is scummy, and maybe Alderan is scummy". That being said I'm looking for a response. Give us some analysis on freeloader's grstrs post, for gods sake give us something to keep us from wasting a lynch on you if you are indeed town. This is a general statement but please town do not go down without a fight if we are about to miss lynch. It happens every game a couple of times and it is one of the most frustrating things that can happen, aside from Mod Kills. Happy Father's Day kids, I have some stuff with my dad this afternoon, should be back before the vote no problem though. At that point in the game i did not see me actually surviving the day so i wanted to give my suspicions before I died knowing the towns predicament after i died Im no where near a useful player but ill keep the game going where i Can As for you You have been lurking most of the game Your Two posts Countered One another out while you basically just bandwagoned a player who we was only voting to spark a reaction | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
| ||
|
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
also sorry if i'm sounding too insulting when i say "you're a fucking moron" i mean "you're a rocket scientist, a gentleman, and a scholar, but your logic is fucking moronic" it's just easier to type the first one | ||
|
Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 20 2011 02:58 Alderan wrote: Are we letting this post slide? Drazerk is in serious danger of getting lynched and this is his defense? I'm not ready to switch my vote just yet (obviously I will switch before a modkill, just sifting through the mindless drivel), as you just seem like a disinterested green but you have got to provide more than "well maybe grstrs is scummy, and maybe Alderan is scummy". That being said I'm looking for a response. Give us some analysis on freeloader's grstrs post, for gods sake give us something to keep us from wasting a lynch on you if you are indeed town. This is a general statement but please town do not go down without a fight if we are about to miss lynch. It happens every game a couple of times and it is one of the most frustrating things that can happen, aside from Mod Kills. Happy Father's Day kids, I have some stuff with my dad this afternoon, should be back before the vote no problem though. Also i just want to point out Did you see my defense last game when people was suspicious of me ? I pretty much did the same thing going " yeah yeah i know im acting scummy just vote for me " | ||
|
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Votecount, Day 1 Drazek(2) Pyo Treadmill Treadmill(1) supersoft Lord Vatti(2) gtrsrs Alderan supersoft(0) Alderan(1) aprudds gtrsrs(4) freeloader625 Drazerk Xedat CjrNinja 2 hours and 40 minutes or so remain. gtrsrs leading the vote count with four votes. Lord Vatti and omgCRAZY are at risk of getting modkilled ;_;. If I miscounted/missed a vote please point it out. | ||
|
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so. Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk. I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D. ##vote: Drazerk | ||
|
aprudds
Canada144 Posts
it's like you people have already forgotten that we had FORTY (40, four times ten, the four holds the ten's place) players last game. we could afford random lynches and shitty bandwagons in the beginning. we have TWELVE people this game. a lynch is worth FOUR LYNCHES from last game. would you have randomly lynched four days in a row last game if four townies got modkilled on day 1? i sure as shit hope not. Hey math genius, probability does not work like that. Stop pretending like it does. i'm not being more passive this game i'm being more conservative. there's a difference. we gain nothing by random lynching today. take your heads out of your asses and this fucking "wasted" lynch mindset. just use your imagination and pretend we had a huge case against Lord Vatti instead. pretend he's posted a lot and we're 100% convinced he's scum. now vote for him. now it's not a "wasted" lynch it's just a mislynch. is that better? So your asking us to PRETEND that Lord Vatti is scum to make the vote easier for us? What kind of backwards logic is that. You of last game would be tunneling the shit out of you this game. HEY LOOK LOL HES BEING SUPER DEFENSIVE HE MUST BE SCUM TROLOLOLOL. | ||
|
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
##unvote: Lord Vatti ##vote: Drazerk soz GM | ||
|
supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
gtrsrs is innocent. Unbelievable. I reread the whole thread, and he's the only one that isn't suspicious to me. I really don't trust aprudds. He is only agressively trying to be the townleader and control the action. But he doesn't lead us anywhere. He just jumps from target to target and accuses everyone, who posts something in here. Moreover is this guy smart enough to change his behavior without a reason - he doesn't need a new role for that. | ||
|
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On June 20 2011 03:04 aprudds wrote: Alderan Why the sudden change of heart? Can you answer my accusations? Like I said, I had never intended on leaving my vote on Lord Vatti, I was placing it there so that he felt pressure not only to just fluff post, but also to make some good contributions. Currently I am waiting on Drazerk to respond before I vote him, I think the case against him is better than anyone else atm and I have serious doubts about the gstrs bandwagon. If Drazerk provides some really solid analysis then I will have to rethink my position. Going to give him an hour or so though. | ||
|
supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
| ||
| ||
