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On February 06 2011 22:12 Jackal58 wrote:CubEdIn If this:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 11:01 Node wrote:Day 1 It was just a movie scene, just something from a scary film. A bad dream. This couldn’t be happening. I should explain. Isn't this:![[image loading]](http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8131/avatarindy2xq.gif) I'll eat my shorts. If you're worried about LD he can shoot me tonight. Mafia will stack another on me and I die. But we're down to 1 scum. Somebody is going to die tonight anyways. I volunteer.
Actually, I kinda like this idea. If LD shoots Jackal, we don't lose a townie extra (since he claimed vet). And we can guarantee the win by tomorrow if we're right on who we lynch tonight. Plus, as I'm a little suspicious of Jackal as it is, if he really is a red player, then we end the game overnight, regardless of who we lynch. We can both verify his blue claim (since mafia won't hit him if they think he is blue anyways), and get a shot at hitting a mafia at the same time.
Do we have a solid choice for a mafia member to lynch though? I'm not sold on CubE yet.....
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Right, the Mason circle has pointed out how wrong I am in trying to push for impervious's lynch over LD's today. A public "point taken" I'll change my vote back to Lunar.
Impervious: Would you mind replying to my points? Or are you afraid that I'll just take your counter arguments and show everyone how scummy you are like I did with Bumatlarge's responses? Still you gave me a little bit to work with...
On February 07 2011 00:34 Impervious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2011 14:59 Kavdragon wrote:Dear Impervious: v2.0 A lot of interesting points, but, overall, a bunch of bullshit. You conveniently forget about stuff like this: Yes, I've mentioned this before. I don't go around showing all the good things that people do. Scum look good until they slip up. You point out the slip-ups, not the good posting/votingShow nested quote +On February 04 2011 06:10 Impervious wrote:
Ok. So, I think we've established that LD is a SK.
What to do about it now though?
If we could use him as a KP tonight, to get rid of a suspected mafia, and lynch another suspected mafia tonight, we could figure out what we do with LD tomorrow (possibly lynch him tomorrow if no bigger targets for tomorrow night show up). If we lynch him tonight, yea, the game goes on longer, but the mafia still has a pretty big advantage.
It's in his best interest to play along as long as possible, because he'll live as long as possible. If he steps out of line, we can get rid of him the next day. As a bonus, we may even knock the KP of the mafia down in the process.
That is, however, assuming that we have 2 good targets for tonight. If not, it's more worthwhile to lynch LD right now.
One thing I'm worried about is if we actually have 2 SK, and the mafia only has 1KP.....
So, do we have 2 good targets for tonight, other than LD? If so, we really should think about lynching one of them instead, rather than get on this giant bandwagon that everyone seems to be on. And we ended up doing exactly this, allowing us to get 2 freaking mafia members overnight. I'd be a terrible mafia player if I was suggesting things like this..... Not to mention I was one of the first to switch my votes to a mafia member..... Yes, this is called busing. It's laughable that you try to take credit in their lynch, when they were both 80% scum in the eyes of the town right then. Isn't it funny that Bumatlarge decides that he's going to die RIGHT after you post that? Almost like you were busing him...Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 06:19 Impervious wrote:
If we're wrong about Beneather - we've taken away one of the things preventing our mayor from biting the dust..... If we're right - we could have saved that kill until later..... It's not like he's the only mafia in the game, after all..... I think lynching him is a bad idea right now, for that sole reason.
There's some somewhat convincing arguments against Jackal and against Nemesis, as well as some mediocre arguments against others (I have a feeling that some people are going to come after me eventually as well, but it's not unexpected when the clues are this vague). Unfortunately, we've gotta vote for someone in this setup, and if they are the best candidates at this moment, we'd be idiots for not giving it a shot now.
I realize that the mafia will try to snowball shit like this. But if the mafia keep trying to snowball things, we'll catch a slipup eventually. There's no way they'll be able to point fingers at the majority of the town before we can catch some kind of specific pattern going on. As long as we're careful to watch for it well enough. I already saw the exact "clue" you saw in me by that point..... And I pointed out some decent logic as to why we shouldn't lynch Beneather (in case we were wrong). As soon as it was confirmed that he was a mafia, and we weren't gonna lynch LD, I was one of the first to switch to voting for him..... I was playing very smart for a mafia, right? ..... Really? You're pointing the fact that you were mafia, and voted against a confirmed scum? And that would be bad mafia play? No! That's exactly what mafia would do. When there's no chance of saving a scum buddy, you are the first person to vote for themShow nested quote +Impervious has FoS'd two people in particular that I remember: Jackal, and Me. Mostly just trying to discredit me/make me out to be mafia. ANY analysis of my posting at that point would have shown me to be town, or SK. Only Mafia would have had the motivation for turning public opinion against the mayor, more importantly the census, at that point was Mafia. Yes. The clues definitely looked like they pointed to Jackal..... That clue was brought up by Coagulation: Yes, I'm not saying that you made up the clue, but you pushed it. That's what mafia like to do, right? Snowball stuff like that?Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 11:24 Coagulation wrote:the only clue i could find He looked up and saw a masked man with a blood-spattered black apron tied around his waist. The man masterfully handled his instruments, hands moving at a blur, flashes of steel rising and falling, leaving perfectly sized morsels behind. He lifted a finger to his mouth and sucked. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Jackal58Steeler picture in profile So are you suggesting that it's gotta be me and Coag (nemesis also played a part iirc, and he was already confirmed to be a non-red) as the last 2 mafia? Cause I wasn't the only person who thought it was a decent connection..... And I voted for Coag earlier on..... Really, if you think you're so good at analysis, how come you really fucked it up here? I was not one of the people who started the bandwagon..... Plus, I didn't stay on Jackal - a "better" option came up (who ended up being a greenie, unfortunately). lol, Coag is Coag Nemesis was the other lynch candidate. Of course they are going to push those clues. Also, Coag is dead, as you very well know.It's not to say that I'm not still suspicious of Jackal, but, recently, there's been better options to vote for. Right now, it's LD so we can make the game go on as long as possible. Agreed. I'll push for you tomorrow.Also, about the RNG mayor - any mafia would want to snag your position..... The rest would be vying for a spot as a bodyguard..... Of course I think it's a better idea to get someone randomly for the position (assuming the mafia try for the position harder than the average townie, since they want the position more, they're more likely to get it). From a statistical point of view, we're less fucked. And you freaking picked a mafia as bodyguard yourself..... It doesn't exactly help your case there..... So, another point about the scummy RNG mayor? It's logic is "Scum would own if they had this, so chances are they will try to get it." What about the rest of the town? You know the other 21 people that should realize this and say "If scum got the mayor, we'd be screwed if they got it. Better try for it. Personally, think that the reason that this keeps coming up is because the scum didn't realize that they should run for mayor until it was too late, and they wish they had. So they are taking the consolation prize of being able to FoS people who ran/distract the town.Of course I don't think you're a mafia anymore. You ended up snagging us 2 red kills. Sick job. But it'd be a waste of a lynch on me..... But, of course, you won't figure that out till we win, or you end up lynching me anyways..... Meh, I dont' really feel like analyzing more of this BS right now..... I'd like to see you start.
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Fine.
I'll do something, probably tomorrow or Tuesday. Right now, I've got a CSL match to go win, and then a Superbowl to watch.
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EBWODP:
That last line came off a bit harsher than it needed to be.
The point I was trying to make was that nothing of what you did was analysis. It was a redirection of attention away from the posts that I brought up, to posts that you wanted people to see. A defense, but not an analysis.
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On February 07 2011 02:50 Kavdragon wrote:
EBWODP:
That last line came off a bit harsher than it needed to be.
The point I was trying to make was that nothing of what you did was analysis. It was a redirection of attention away from the posts that I brought up, to posts that you wanted people to see. A defense, but not an analysis.
Impervious isn't scum. Cubed's partner in crime is Divinek. Only scum would freak out like he did at the prospect of keeping LD alive one more day. There plan never considered town using LD to off another scum at night.
Lynch Cubed.
Shoot Divinek.
Game over.
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Right, so we've gone from:
Two clues pointing at you -> one clue sort-of pointing at you -> let's lynch you + shoot me -> lynch you, shoot divinek.
Yeah. Subtle.
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Great plan isn't it?
Town wins tonight.
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Eh sure we could try to convince lunar to shoot a vet or maybe even pick someone and med protect them, but there's no guarantee he would listen and I dont want to risk anyone
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Jackal, CubEdIn:
If you actually want us to consider lynching the other, consider doing some behavioral analysis. Cause I will use whatever sway I have with the town to stop it from lynching based off of clues like you two are trying to do
On February 07 2011 03:03 Jackal58 wrote:
Impervious isn't scum. Cubed's partner in crime is Divinek. Only scum would freak out like he did at the prospect of keeping LD alive one more day. There plan never considered town using LD to off another scum at night.
No, at this point I think that it's pretty obvious that town is now in the lead. LD will start helping the mafia now. He may have been neutral with 3 mafia left, but with 2, the town is certainly in the lead. He helped us get into this position, and I'm grateful for that, but the best play for town is to lynch LD.
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K i believe that we will nail 1 last scum with clue analysis.
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Hey, I'm running up against a bunch of deadlines for school, so I won't be able to participate much for a few days. Sorry to drop out at a point like this, but I think that the town can hold onto this as long as nobody does anything stupid.
Oh, and one more bit of information I was given: The mafia tried to role-block me last night. Yeah, I know, it can't be done, so why try? On the other hand, this does prove that GMarshal is town...if anyone was still doubting. (I didn't say this earlier, because I wasn't told earlier) Don't get too distracted trying to figure out what that means, but who knows, It might be helpful. (Also means that the RB'er is still alive)
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On February 07 2011 08:36 Kavdragon wrote:
Hey, I'm running up against a bunch of deadlines for school, so I won't be able to participate much for a few days. Sorry to drop out at a point like this, but I think that the town can hold onto this as long as nobody does anything stupid.
Oh, and one more bit of information I was given: The mafia tried to role-block me last night. Yeah, I know, it can't be done, so why try? On the other hand, this does prove that GMarshal is town...if anyone was still doubting. (I didn't say this earlier, because I wasn't told earlier) Don't get too distracted trying to figure out what that means, but who knows, It might be helpful. (Also means that the RB'er is still alive)
What if the roleblocker was Beneather?
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On February 07 2011 09:04 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2011 08:36 Kavdragon wrote:
Hey, I'm running up against a bunch of deadlines for school, so I won't be able to participate much for a few days. Sorry to drop out at a point like this, but I think that the town can hold onto this as long as nobody does anything stupid.
Oh, and one more bit of information I was given: The mafia tried to role-block me last night. Yeah, I know, it can't be done, so why try? On the other hand, this does prove that GMarshal is town...if anyone was still doubting. (I didn't say this earlier, because I wasn't told earlier) Don't get too distracted trying to figure out what that means, but who knows, It might be helpful. (Also means that the RB'er is still alive)
What if the roleblocker was Beneather?
That'd work too, guess we'll see after tonight.
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Night 5
So my time has finally come. The crowd swells, and beats down my door. I sit at my table, enjoy my last cup of tea. Extra sugar. As they swell into my home, I do not resist, but they are careful. I have scared them. Good.
It had to happen eventually. I am not a coward. I will not beg for my life.
I am getting what I deserve, but I have done well.
LunarDestiny has been lynched.
Eti307 has been modkilled.
There are no clues in the above post.
Night 5 has begun. You know what to do.
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Continue to annoy Cubed and Divinek?
Shoot me bitches.
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On February 07 2011 12:10 Jackal58 wrote:
Continue to annoy Cubed and Divinek?
Shoot me bitches.
Nawe, keep him alive. He can suffer the defeat of his beloved Steelers for as long as possible that way.
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mafia count this night kavdragon
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i mean, it's going to be 2 unless Eti was mafia for some reason.
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On February 07 2011 12:13 Impervious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2011 12:10 Jackal58 wrote:
Continue to annoy Cubed and Divinek?
Shoot me bitches. Nawe, keep him alive. He can suffer the defeat of his beloved Steelers for as long as possible that way.
You're kinda cute when you're being a prick.
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