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Vitamintv
United States35 Posts
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Maxpwnz
United States1 Post
On September 06 2011 10:23 ProTech wrote: I think its bullshit that people stream cheat during an event like that, you talk about me growing up then some of you people need learn morals. The stream doesnt need to be featured, i'm not saying that wizards are bad players, but they stream cheated during the tournament, thats not acceptable in my opinion. Therefore, the stream should not be featured. It's like saying hey, let's feature Combat-EX-'s stream or if Deezer streamed: let's feature their stream cuz they're GM's. They dont, and won't because they stream cheat constantly. I feel like it's the same situation here. I thought the streams were delayed or something? | ||
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CCow
Germany335 Posts
You just don't seem to grasp what it means to accuse people for cheating. You need SOLID PROOF. Btw, know watching your stream. Who do you think you are to shittalk ppl on TL like this? Saying people have downsyndrom, are retards, dumb, ...it's really offensive. | ||
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CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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Xethra
United States3 Posts
Protech, you won the tournament, even "if" they stream cheated. That's You are a well know 2v2 player that is respected. You may not get the viewers you deserve on your stream just because the 2v2 scene is still unknown to the majority of the community. It's unfortunate that you have to deal with stream cheaters and hackers, but honestly do you not think people like Destiny, Minigun, Dragon, Idra (when he streams), Catz, etc., have to deal with it in 1v1? You would be naive to think otherwise. There's no stopping it unless you delay the stream by at least 2 minutes. Consistantly accusing and calling people hackers is just going to make a bad name for youself. Manner up, if they do cheat they are trash and you know it. Make a legitmate claim on the hacker thread and leave it at that. Don't escalate it past that, it only puts your name in the mud. | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
First of all, thanks ProteCh for spam in my thread...was a nice publicity ♥ Sincerely,i think that these accusations are very enterteining and we should receive them with laughs and plaudits guys,but anyway thanks for defending me xD Guys take note, do not kill panthers, or you will be accused of doing traps! I believe that they are on the verge of extinction hahaha! Also dont dance with ur lings,they dont like it! (Btw i did /dance with my lings almost since the first game vs Newbcake-team xD) Now talking seriously,you should give thanks to god that we had to play the tour at 7:30 AM. One more time,congratulations for ur 1st place, u guys did a good job. Regards, IeZaeL. Edit: Pls guys,stop the war here,let him to do what he wants,anyway thanks for the defense ♥♥ | ||
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itzjohnny
62 Posts
Since I don't follow the 2v2 community too much, I did not know who you were at first. I saw your team get knocked into the losers bracket after the first round. But watching a couple of your games, I realized that your team played really well and it proved to be so when you crawled out of that losers bracket and straight back up into the finals. The finals was a pretty epic series, aside from the casting. It was as close as close can get. Next time you play against PowerTech, difficulty might be slightly harder though.. unless Power randoms Zerg 50%+ of the time again. As for the whole accusation issue, why don't you just tell them the reason why you killed the lyote and danced with the zerglings? It might have been stated earlier in this thread but I haven't gone through all the posts yet. | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
 About the accusation,i cant defense myself about something that stupid :S! xD I can understand if he accuses me for doing "X" or "Y" BO but we did horribles bo's vs them,like 14pool vs ZZ in scorched... 10pool vs ZP in The constructor... losing vs 2 stupids cheese in games #3 and #5.... How you eat it? xddd! Btw, like i said, i did /dance with my lings since the game #1 in the loser bracket xD (I cannot believe that I have to defend myself for things like this xddddd ,does someone think that if I listen this in a stream with 5k-10k persons i would do it?) COME ON,LOL! xDD Plz guys stop this xdd! | ||
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Vitamintv
United States35 Posts
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CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
On September 06 2011 11:48 -WizardsIeZa- wrote: Thank you very much itzjohnny About the accusation,i cant defense myself about something that stupid :S! xD I can understand if he accuses me for doing "X" or "Y" BO but we did horribles bo's vs them,like 14pool vs ZZ in scorched... 10pool vs ZP in The constructor... losing vs 2 stupids cheese in games #3 and #5.... How you eat it? xddd! Btw, like i said, i did /dance with my lings since the game #1 in the loser bracket xD (I cannot believe that I have to defend myself for things like this xddddd ,does someone think that if I listen this in a stream with 5k-10k persons i would do it?) COME ON,LOL! xDD Plz guys stop this xdd! The more you play Protech the more he will think you`re cheating. | ||
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Makica
Canada180 Posts
On September 06 2011 10:26 Vitamintv wrote: Apparently Protech told his viewers he tried to hack one time but he was too stupid to use it. 0:50 seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb1XvE6Tfi8 Wow as a fan I can't believe this. | ||
ProTech
United States433 Posts
Taken completely out of context. I was referring to BROOD WAR when I was 10 years old. And furthermore why in the hell would i stream that, if I was trying to hide something. I stream 100% of my games, vitamin and sorcery do not(for a reason) Anyway, this will be my last post to stop this stream from being featured. They were watching the stream while playing the tournament, if you can't see it, sorry, but it's 100% true. EDIT: Also, team wizards needs to explain why the killed the lyote and danced as the caster were talking about it. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 06 2011 12:40 ProTech wrote: Taken completely out of context. I was referring to BROOD WAR when I was 10 years old. And furthermore why in the hell would i stream that, if I was trying to hide something. I stream 100% of my games, vitamin and sorcery do not(for a reason) Anyway, this will be my last post to stop this stream from being featured. They were watching the stream while playing the tournament, if you can't see it, sorry, but it's 100% true. EDIT: Also, team wizards needs to explain why the killed the lyote and danced as the caster were talking about it. Indeed, why would they intentionally show they're stream-cheating if they had the intention of winning while "trying to hide something" (their cheating methods). See that cheap parallel I'm making to establish a common sense? Explain why they killed a creature that had no effect to the game or the overall result? | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
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CCow
Germany335 Posts
Because there is nothing to explain. You go here and whine about something completely random. That stuff happens several times every day at GSL or any other major tour, that there is any random comment followed by a random action. The probability of such things happening once is kind of big. You and Power attacking the techlab researching siege, canceling it at 98% or something in the last game is pretty much the same, random, thing. You will need like 5+ of such incidences per game before they are anywhere near a proof. The biggest thing YOU aren't adressing is why Wizards wouldn't use the "cheat" to win, rather then to entertain the viewership. This just makes zero sense and really takes away everything from your accusation. It makes me more than sad seeing a featured streamer accusing anyone with such rubbish. Your flaming of TL-members on your stream made it even worse. | ||
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ProTech
United States433 Posts
On September 06 2011 13:13 -WizardsIeZa- wrote: hihi guys (and ProTech ♥) i just made a new reppack with all my PTSL games and all my ladders games of today after one month of inactivity,u can dl it here: [url blocked] Thank you! You are confused, I am not accusing you of hacking. I am accusing you of listening to the casters during the tournament which would give you an upper hand. I know you dont hack, as I've played you before. What I want is a reasonable explanation as to why you decided to kill the lyote and then dance after doing so AS THE CASTERS ARE TALKING ABOUT IT. If you provide a good explanation then I will take back everything I have said in this thread. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 06 2011 13:15 CCow wrote: No one needs to explain anything. Because there is nothing to explain. You go here and whine about something completely random. That stuff happens several times every day at GSL or any other major tour, that there is any random comment followed by a random action. The probability of such things happening once is kind of big. You and Power attacking the techlab researching siege, canceling it at 98% or something in the last game is pretty much the same, random, thing. You will need like 5+ of such incidences per game before they are anywhere near a proof. The biggest thing YOU aren't adressing is why Wizards wouldn't use the "cheat" to win, rather then to entertain the viewership. This just makes zero sense and really takes away everything from your accusation. It makes me more than sad seeing a featured streamer accusing anyone with such rubbish. Your flaming of TL-members on your stream made it even worse. You can record these "flames" and report them :3 | ||
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ProTech
United States433 Posts
On September 06 2011 13:15 CCow wrote: No one needs to explain anything. Because there is nothing to explain. You go here and whine about something completely random. That stuff happens several times every day at GSL or any other major tour, that there is any random comment followed by a random action. The probability of such things happening once is kind of big. You and Power attacking the techlab researching siege, canceling it at 98% or something in the last game is pretty much the same, random, thing. You will need like 5+ of such incidences per game before they are anywhere near a proof. The biggest thing YOU aren't adressing is why Wizards wouldn't use the "cheat" to win, rather then to entertain the viewership. This just makes zero sense and really takes away everything from your accusation. It makes me more than sad seeing a featured streamer accusing anyone with such rubbish. Your flaming of TL-members on your stream made it even worse. My zerglings were poking in and out of the front of their base, they made a tech lab as a part of a wall. If it's flashing green, then you attack it. We attacked the front of their base BASED OFF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD FROM MY UNITS POKING THE FRONT OF THEIR BASE. 1 BUNKER, NO UNITS we were doing an all in build. So don't fucking sit there and say that our attack was suspicious. Whether or not siege mode was complete mad zero difference in our attack. It's not like a siege'd tank was going to stop what we were doing anyway. I want someone to explain to me why as the broadcasters are talking about the lyote, they kill it, then dance. I mean you seriously have to have down syndrome not to find that awkward in the least. Give me an explanation ( and NO someone msging you will not work because as per PTSL RULES you are supposed to be set on BUSY mode so you shouldn't be getting msgs from people during the game so that won't be valid. ) And I want you all to understand something: The reason I am pursuing this, is because I don't think it's fair. If they were in fact stream cheating, then why is OK for them to get prize money, whereas if they weren't cheating, the outcome could have possibly be different. The way I see it, is if they were stream cheating that is potentially STEALING someone elses money who WASNT cheating, and they in fact deserved it. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Here's a scenario: Lyote in the fucking way. You kill it. It's the early game, so you don't have that much to do. You assume the casters are watching, so you dance. They are probably not talking about really anything since the openings are rather generic and/or something relatively fast to explain. I don't know if you're intentionally avoiding the other side of the argument or simply just being stubborn, but name another instance in that game where it was clear they were stream-cheating. edit: LOLWOW Are you kidding me, I just saw the stupid video. They're talking about the Lyote for a good 30 seconds at least. You've got to be kidding me. Come on, just let it go. It's so petty and sad. | ||
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ProTech
United States433 Posts
On September 06 2011 13:23 Torte de Lini wrote: I must have down syndrome. Here's a scenario: Lyote in the fucking way. You kill it. It's the early game, so you don't have that much to do. You assume the casters are watching, so you dance. They are probably not talking about really anything since the openings are rather generic and/or something relatively fast to explain. I don't know if you're intentionally avoiding the other side of the argument or simply just being stubborn, but name another instance in that game where it was clear they were stream-cheating. Nonsense. The lyote wasn't in the way of ANYTHING. So you're telling me that with a bunch of money on the line, you're not taking it seriously, killing a lyote? Your reason is not valid. | ||
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