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CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
September 06 2011 00:57 GMT
#81
I don't see any reason for you guys trying to go against me now.
It is more than unreasonable to come with such an accusation based upon ONE single incident.

-IF they streamcheated WHY did they let the stalker block the swap?
-IF they streamcheated WHY wouldn't they get more bunkers in the last game?

ProTech was lucky on more occasions than them PLUS the incident he is accusing them for has no impact on the game whatsoever. Why should I CHEAT for ZERGLINGDANCE? And then when I can win the game easy by just making 2-3 bunkers try to swap to let Power block it?

Knuffel
Profile Joined February 2011
6 Posts
September 06 2011 01:02 GMT
#82
Protech was maphacking, They allin seeing the opponents would only have 1 bunker once they attacked!
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
September 06 2011 01:02 GMT
#83
Plus, please notice what happens JUST 15 SECONDS AFTER the casters talk about the siege-tech beeing halfway done! ProTech+Power charge all-in for the addon.
Streamhacks? I doubt it.
Still more reasonable indicator than the lyote.
Really.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:08:16
September 06 2011 01:04 GMT
#84
no hack accusation

he's saying you were listening to the stream, the casters said something about a lyote blocking one of your buildings and since the stream is delayed your team heard the comment later on in the game and then the partner used his lings to kill the lyote and then he /danced

Killing lyote is not an issue, but why would he /dance
hihihi
pintoboss
Profile Joined June 2011
Portugal3 Posts
September 06 2011 01:06 GMT
#85
thats some good points

and also there's a point that ...we see what ...we believe and WANT to see

Pro u can see the lyote/dance // 14 pool things as a cheat

OR as a coincidence, fun with the lyote // knowladge about u guys, stupidity about the build order, poor play whatever lol
Vitamintv
Profile Joined November 2010
United States35 Posts
September 06 2011 01:09 GMT
#86
TeamWizards Fighting! ^^
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 06 2011 01:09 GMT
#87
Why would a stream-cheater make it so blatant that he's cheating especially on something that doesn't affect the game.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
September 06 2011 01:09 GMT
#88
I really like how many 1 post accounts there are in this thread... rofl.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States493 Posts
September 06 2011 01:11 GMT
#89
why do you guys keep talking about the stalker blocking the swap? I've already explained it, there is a delay in the stream. That is exactly why they didnt kill the lyote and dance the lings until 10~15 seconds AFTER the casters started mentioning it.

So when you talk about the stalker blocking the swap that has nothing to do with whether they were stream cheating or not. You're not gonna be able to stop a stalker from delaying your swap if you dont see it on the stream 10~15 seconds before it actually happens.

Your arguments are not valid, they were stream cheating throughout the entire tournament it's 100% obvious just based off that little clip displayed.
Knuffel
Profile Joined February 2011
6 Posts
September 06 2011 01:14 GMT
#90
You can use the stream to know when the factory is finished and asume they will lift it, then block it

If you don't know about the exact delay-time you should stop using that as an argument, as its totally unreasonable ... if you just stretch it far enough you can acuse everyone for anything you want...
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
September 06 2011 01:15 GMT
#91
my lings like to dance sometimes, what can i say they are party animals
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
September 06 2011 01:17 GMT
#92
I saw you play vs soQt and his team once.
really good game soQt is a beast!
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
orZ5
Profile Joined December 2010
Spain44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:23:34
September 06 2011 01:19 GMT
#93
Protech..If you are good in 2v2 but you're no big deal .. you and we can all win and lose and you're not going to be the exception. Seriusly stop rage kid and more play =)

CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
September 06 2011 01:20 GMT
#94
Great stream, should be featured for sure!
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
September 06 2011 01:21 GMT
#95
orZ5, i have no idea what you just said
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
September 06 2011 01:21 GMT
#96
Still you are only basing your accusation on this one completely minor incident.
If you claim they streamcheat the whole tournament it would be quite nice if you could back it up with something more.
They could really easy know about your (semi) all-ins both games you win. Why shouldn't they turtle way harder? Especially the last game. Why don't they keep scvs at the ramp before you charge in? Why doesn't IeZa make his spines earlier? If you want to accuse them for something like this you should really have some kind of PROOF. This is not even CLOSE to that.

Accusing anybody for cheating, hacking or anything like that without solid proof is not very good mannered. Really it isn't.
They way you are doing it makes it even worse. IeZa is trying to get featured status and you, who has it, comes here with "herp-derp don't give it to them".
IeZa and eXe are one of the absolute best teams worldwide. Why do you explain them not EASILY winning both games against you when cheating? It's not like they don't beat you on ladder without it. Wizards played many a tournament so far where they could have won by cheating. They didn't win them all though.
...
This just makes me mad. -_-
2n2Alienrage
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany2 Posts
September 06 2011 01:22 GMT
#97
well for me there isnt any proof ... so it has to be in dubio pro reo
killing a lyote wich was blocking the wall as the casters mentioned isnt a big deal.
dancing after killing a lyote while 5k ppl watching it is always fun

i played wizards quite often and i know iezal likes to dance (i.e. killing reactor with slings in tz vs tz=dance on your ramp etc.)

overall the situation is suspicious, especially cause executer is a known hacker from bw
but when you say its proofed they streamcheated the entire tournement you should give more than one suspicous action which could be just a funny action by those guys, especially cause you are known of accsusing of calling other players hackers for no/small reasons ;-)
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States493 Posts
September 06 2011 01:23 GMT
#98
I think its bullshit that people stream cheat during an event like that, you talk about me growing up then some of you people need learn morals. The stream doesnt need to be featured, i'm not saying that wizards are bad players, but they stream cheated during the tournament, thats not acceptable in my opinion. Therefore, the stream should not be featured. It's like saying hey, let's feature Combat-EX-'s stream or if Deezer streamed: let's feature their stream cuz they're GM's. They dont, and won't because they stream cheat constantly. I feel like it's the same situation here.
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
September 06 2011 01:24 GMT
#99
Id love to see combatex or deezer stream. That is entertainment
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:26:45
September 06 2011 01:25 GMT
#100
I think someone needs to tell Protech the story of The little boy who cried wolf.

........You cry wolf so many times no one is going to believe you anymore.

These are ridiculous and harsh undeserved accusations and totally unfair to the Wizards team....And all Protech is trying to do is boost his ego because he should never be able to lose.
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
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