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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
On September 07 2011 12:39 Kyhol wrote: Every time I play against protech he accuses me of stream cheating. So let it be known to anyone who ever deals with protech: he's a wiener. Rather than accepting that he has flawed strategies, and then putting time into fixing them, the guy says "cheater! hacker!" etc. I would rather put the time into learning the game and perfecting my play. It's like a quote I heard once. " It's better to light a candle than curse the darkness. " Take everything he says as if it wasn't said. I think i should just ask my two cents. I dont like protech as I find him a colossal douche. just hearing the way he talks i think if i met him in real life i just wouldn't talk to him. he doesn't care and i dont care either. thats my opinion, i have a right to form that opinion. I've watched enough of his stream. i think his strategies have holes but whatever. still solid. most people just copy his strategies anyways. He accuses almost anyone who beats him of stream cheating. I'd say the majority 50 pct + are stream cheating and hacking in his eyes. it ruins his credibility so much that when he does have a legit gripe everyone brings this shit up. Granted, every time he's actually put a post down he seems to have some sort of thought behind it. I wont lie. i'm suspicious of their stream cheating in this one particular instance. I"m not saying that they are. but protech's reasoning has at least some validity to raise suspicion. but i'm not saying they are. but its enough to make one slightly suspicious. people say they are innocent till proven guilty but its impossible for these guys to help themselves appear more innocent so, i would let the issue rest for now. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On September 08 2011 00:30 Phanekim wrote: I think i should just ask my two cents. I dont like protech as I find him a colossal douche. just hearing the way he talks i think if i met him in real life i just wouldn't talk to him. he doesn't care and i dont care either. thats my opinion, i have a right to form that opinion. I've watched enough of his stream. i think his strategies have holes but whatever. still solid. most people just copy his strategies anyways. He accuses almost anyone who beats him of stream cheating. I'd say the majority 50 pct + are stream cheating and hacking in his eyes. it ruins his credibility so much that when he does have a legit gripe everyone brings this shit up. Granted, every time he's actually put a post down he seems to have some sort of thought behind it. I wont lie. i'm suspicious of their stream cheating in this one particular instance. I"m not saying that they are. but protech's reasoning has at least some validity to raise suspicion. but i'm not saying they are. but its enough to make one slightly suspicious. people say they are innocent till proven guilty but its impossible for these guys to help themselves appear more innocent so, i would let the issue rest for now. "I'm not sure if you are guilty, but let's trash your credibility just in case" A clear Dominique Strauss-Kahn case. | ||
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
On September 08 2011 04:58 xN.07)MaK wrote: "I'm not sure if you are guilty, but let's trash your credibility just in case" A clear Dominique Strauss-Kahn case. not saying its even fair but the truth is that court of public opinion is different from court of law. you can say what you want but this has been going on since dawn of man. it was just too coincidental their killing of the lyote. just too damn coincidental. | ||
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Wheelyman
Canada53 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:18 Phanekim wrote: not saying its even fair but the truth is that court of public opinion is different from court of law. you can say what you want but this has been going on since dawn of man. it was just too coincidental their killing of the lyote. just too damn coincidental. They are spanish and only Executor is a little better in english so not sure if they would've even get it right on the "lyote" joke. Besides, we haven't heard of PTSL investigating on the "incident". I guess it's ProTech's "job" or even 3rd place team to ask for an investigation. If not even PTSL asks for it, I gues they as organisors, judged there wasn't an issue there. Gogo TeamWizards!! Almost got rank #1 in the world this morning. Just behind Vitamin/Sorcery. Want showmatch of these 2 teams clashing BADLY!! | ||
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
what now? now we've got one meaningless coincidence for each team. is that enough to call them both cheaters? | ||
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JustTray
127 Posts
Vitamin - Sorcery is your partner since forever. Sorcery is a confirmed hacker. You are his accomplice. QED you are an admitted and known hacker. Not to mention the way you guys don't scout simply gives away your production hacking 100%. You don't even try to pretend. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200545 Manner - grow up kid, get a life. | ||
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Kwanny
Germany222 Posts
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PtM
89 Posts
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:16 JustTray wrote: Mak - Protech didn't just say the lyote was the only thing. I'm not even sure he knew about that until it was all over. They were suspicious because of their blind hard counter openers when one of them was random. The timing of their scouting was oddly early and suspicious in one of the games as well. If you didn't watch and don't know what is being discussed, please don't make judgements on it. If you did watch, get the facts right. Vitamin - Sorcery is your partner since forever. Sorcery is a confirmed hacker. You are his accomplice. QED you are an admitted and known hacker. Not to mention the way you guys don't scout simply gives away your production hacking 100%. You don't even try to pretend. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200545 Manner - grow up kid, get a life. So dumb to stream cheat and then die to stupid things in games 3 and 5. I feel that as an argument is stronger than what Protech has said so far. It isn't a proof either, but here we are not talking about proofs but suspicious things. I'm pretty sure I can go through vods of them and find games where they blindly countered something, just by chance. And I don't consider them suspicious. I'm not saying they did or didn't, just that neither you nor Protech can be sure if they cheated even if they did. However this is not stopping people to flame them, quite sad tbh. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On September 08 2011 08:09 PtM wrote: LOL at whoever registered three new accounts to make accusatory posts on the previous page. Not a very hard guess who's behind | ||
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CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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Vitamintv
United States35 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:16 JustTray wrote:Vitamin - Sorcery is your partner since forever. Sorcery is a confirmed hacker. You are his accomplice. QED you are an admitted and known hacker. Not to mention the way you guys don't scout simply gives away your production hacking 100%. You don't even try to pretend. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200545 Manner - grow up kid, get a life. How am I his accomplice? I started playing 2v2s with him way after he admitted to hacking. What is QED? I never admitted hacking and I never hacked. We don't scout because we have different strats based off of match up and maps. We always scout when we face random players. You can ask anyone who watches my stream regularly. You can also ask people that watch us stream, call out our strats in the beginning of the game. How was I bad manner in anyway? I'm just curious to why your accusing me of hacking when I never did. | ||
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Vitamintv
United States35 Posts
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
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Wheelyman
Canada53 Posts
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
Ofc and im still streaming! *kiss* mate =P | ||
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TRiPgod
Spain2 Posts
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
We are playing Z+Z , is very entertained xD. Thanks for your time, hope to see you guys in my stream : ) | ||
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Nyael
Spain2 Posts
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