Yup, I would love to hear the pre-/post-game discussion.
Do TSL+ owners have extented VODs? If so I'm totally ok with the fact that free users have limited videos.

GammaRayToaster

Germany25 Posts

August 07 2012 08:09 GMT

#22

I'd love to have the whole live experience recorded. From the first second of the stream to the last! Due to my job I can rarely see a tournament live and cutting that hard destroys the atmosphere for me. Please let them at least finish their sentences. Maybe put the pre/post game talk in seperate vods if you want the games to stay compact.

Bump this thread/suggestion!!

CatNzHat

United States1599 Posts

August 07 2012 08:29 GMT

#23

I think that either exporting from twitch or using local recording would be the best solution, but since it seems there are technical limitations (as there always are), it might be worth the extra time and effort to do some post production on the vodz to include the bits at the beginning and end without spoilers (put up an overlay or something).

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

August 07 2012 09:22 GMT

#24

On August 07 2012 11:16 xilaratu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 07 2012 08:38 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Yep, would be nice.

No swedes left though.. Thorzain, Naniwa, Sase, Bischu and Lalush all out in Ro32... I go cry in a corner now....

Spoiler this please :\

On topic: I don't really understand why it was this way in the first place. o.O

If you don't want spoilers, I recommend you just bookmark this page and watch them asap when they get put up:
http://www.teamliquidstarleague.com/vods

StayPhrosty

Canada406 Posts

August 07 2012 10:25 GMT

#25

i totally agree with the OP, it's really jarring and i miss the analysis, plus i hate accidentally moving the mouse and seeing how close it is till the end of the match. :/

Zamiel

United States211 Posts

August 07 2012 12:54 GMT

#26

agree with OP, rich wru

Drake

Germany6146 Posts

August 07 2012 15:54 GMT

#27

yep tsl3 vod is a great example because it was much better there !
also i think make it like tsl3 or gsl or something would make alot people happy

JusticeSC

Canada18 Posts

August 08 2012 00:11 GMT

#28

TSL3 was perfect. It was a total blast to watch via VODs. Without hearing any pre or post game analysis, the TSL4 VODs just aren't as entertaining. There are a lot of players in the TSL4 which I don’t know anything about which makes it hard to care who wins.

StarStrider

United States689 Posts

August 08 2012 01:52 GMT

#29

The pre and post game analysis are key for me in valuing a game. Without that it feels rushed and isn't meaningful and feels like it doesn't have that 'epic proportions' feeling that a TSL quality game should have, and somehow it just takes the fun out of it, and that part I can't really put into words, but it's just more....boring. Now I'm finding I have to tune in LIVE just to get the good feel, and frankly my schedule doesn't always allow that. So now I feel left out of the loop of excitement.

4ZakeN87

Sweden1071 Posts

August 08 2012 10:22 GMT

#30

On August 07 2012 11:03 kongor wrote:
Duuuuude above me... spoiler =X =`(

Sorry, that slipped my mind. Well it as more then 24h after the game though..

Mataza

Germany5364 Posts

August 08 2012 12:25 GMT

#31

I agree with OP.
Seems weird to me to it cut it instantly like that. I read on youtube comments that it is to make us watch live, which I think is kind of silly, even if it were true(I don´t trust random people on youtube).

Please upload whole.

R1CH

Netherlands10342 Posts

August 09 2012 11:03 GMT

#32

Working on the sync issue, this seems to be caused by youtube as the videos before we upload them play back perfectly synced in multiple video players. I've made some test videos with additional sync correction - which one seems to be the most in sync for everyone? Watch for the explosion from the first reaper shot.

Poll: Which video has the best A/V sync?

test4 (10)

67%

test3 (5)

33%

test2 (0)

0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Which video has the best A/V sync?

(Vote): test2
(Vote): test3
(Vote): test4

Kleinmuuhg

Vanuatu4091 Posts

August 09 2012 11:08 GMT

#33

3 was the best imo, but 4 was okay as well
2 was bad

MrMedic

Canada452 Posts

August 09 2012 11:10 GMT

#34

Yea, test 4 is the best, test 3 is second best and test 2 is placed in last. Hope you get this done very well. GLHF ^^

Lavit2099

United States390 Posts

August 09 2012 11:15 GMT

#35

Two is terribad (near a second between animation and sound) but the other two are much better. Four might be a bit better than three, but it's not by much from what I can tell.

kittyjessika

8 Posts

August 09 2012 13:28 GMT

#36

I agree with the others to keep the analysis and such after the game.. It's not hard for someone to press the x in the corner if he/she dont want to watch it..

JusticeSC

Canada18 Posts

August 09 2012 23:49 GMT

#37

Very well spoken StarSTrider. That's exactly how I feel as well.

On August 08 2012 10:52 StarStrider wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

thopol

Japan4560 Posts

August 11 2012 08:00 GMT

#38

I'd like some postgame as well. I don't know if everyone has the patience for the deep analysis that we had in TSL2, but some of it is nice. I think the best way would probably be to have the player intro video, then start VODs at the start of the match and give the postgame after.

To clarify, it can be subobtimal to have a pregame if you just want to catch the gameplay, so it should start with the start of the game. The player introductions/matchup introduction is pretty important though. A lot of the important stuff in a sport isn't the events in the game. Background; what the players are expected to do, what they have done, why the match is important or epic; this is key.

It's key for newbies, and as someone who hasn't been following the scene for a while, I'd like some of that accessibility. This is a super minor complaint though. Production has been something special and it's pretty much everything that we've come to hope for and expect from the TSL dynasty.

Mikilatov

United States3897 Posts

August 11 2012 23:11 GMT

#39

As many others have already said, I too would really like to see pre/post game stuff added to the future vods from here on out. Please please!?

R1CH

Netherlands10342 Posts

August 12 2012 01:03 GMT

#40

Do you care about the pre/post-game screens as well, or just the commentary? It's a lot easier for us just to include the audio than have to switch out the video scenes too.