I think I see what you did there. It's so subtle that I can't be sure!

Upsets are fun and exciting, and I appreciate that Cruncher provided one for us. All this bravado is a big turn off as a potential fan, though. A recent good showing and a Bo3 just doesn't feel like enough to badmouth any of the longstanding staples.

Salv

Canada3083 Posts

March 29 2011 03:54 GMT

#83

On March 29 2011 12:25 Feijichang wrote:

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People blow Idra's "rage" way out of proportion... venting a little frustration or speaking your mind is not a very big deal,

People blow Idra's rage out of proportion? Idra's? Are you serious?

On March 29 2011 12:26 Zicco wrote:
cruncher is terrible, i hate to tell everyone. idra probably didnt practice at all for it and took him too lightly. idra is 100000x the player cruncher is =/

Look, let's just say for the sake of argument that Idra was a better player than Cruncher, or that he has more skill. There's more to competitive gaming than just being good at the game in a vacuum scenario. Being able to keep your emotions in check and not go on tilt, and not underestimating your opponent are two very important skills to have. Idra may be very skilled at the game, but he's fucking horrendous at the other two things I just mentioned, so overall, how skilled can you really say he is? It doesn't matter if he was 100 times the player Cruncher is, if Idra's flaws lead him to be over-confident and that leads to him losing, I don't see how you can say he's a better competitive player.

ReketSomething

United States6012 Posts

March 29 2011 03:56 GMT

#84

God cruncher is hilarious. That interview and that manner is awesome and made the series entertaining.

Crunchums

United States11143 Posts

March 29 2011 03:56 GMT

#85

props to cruncher for not holding anything back

mufin

United States616 Posts

March 29 2011 03:56 GMT

#86

cruncher making himself known. i would go so far as to call him the anti-idra. he's definitely making sure people remember him

hadhubhi

30 Posts

March 29 2011 03:57 GMT

#87

I feel like I'm alone in this, but I'm just not at all interested in the IdrA/CrunCher drama. I am so much more into the Return of the Mondragon. I would much prefer for players to act more like he does. He's able to be humble, hilarious, and good manner all at the same time. Moreover, I love that he talks about how much he likes playing ZvP while every other Zerg in the world would prefer to be talking about imbalance in the matchup (and I am not taking a personal stance on the existence of imbalance. I just think his is a much better mindset for a player to have).

Gogo Mondragon! May you crunch (pun intended) all in your path!

Razzah

United States35 Posts

March 29 2011 04:00 GMT

#88

Idra's fanbase in probably one of or possibly the biggest around. Cruncher made a lot more haters then followers.

Cyanocyst

2222 Posts

March 29 2011 04:02 GMT

#89

I still thought IdrA played better than Cruncher in 2 out of the 3 games.

Though IdrA lost game 1 (which he should have won) for being himself. He was too passive, and let Cruncher turtle and get up an almost invincible composition. IdrA really needs experiment with aggressive Zerg play. (even tho hes dismissed it)

While no ones really mastered it, i do believe theres a way to play aggressive Zerg where your not all in or playing gimmicky. You can be a Macro Zerg, while being aggressive, constantly whittling your opponents army, production and eco. Until you can break him. (if this truly doesn't work, then i would say the game is imba)

That said i wasn't impressed at all by Crunchers play. He just didn't play impressively. I feel that IdrA's play won and lost every game.

udgnim

United States8024 Posts

March 29 2011 04:04 GMT

#90

apparently Cruncher's always 1 base cheese Idra on ladder strategy paid off for him

dapanman

United States316 Posts

March 29 2011 04:05 GMT

#91

On March 29 2011 12:27 Bear4188 wrote:
Cruncher is a straight shooter, nice. Kind of like IdrA in that actually. Difference being he still respects all opponents.

[...] But I have zero respect for a player like Idra.

Come again?

blizzind

United States642 Posts

March 29 2011 04:06 GMT

#92

screw idra. seriously. cruncher's interview was hilarious.

garlicface

Canada4196 Posts

March 29 2011 04:08 GMT

#93

On March 29 2011 12:11 adeezy wrote:
People always say "one of the best players in the world" for IdrA but he hasn't performed as of lately. And he's been in quite a few tournaments ever since he left Korea.
People are saying "cruncher" shouldn't talk like that, but IdrA speaks the same way of his opponents when he himself has consistently performed at a mediocre level at best. The double standards of IdrA fans never ceases to amaze me. They love it when he BM but when he gets BM people say it's "too much" or "IdrA is still better". As far as I can tell Morrow may end up being a better than zerg than he is if he continues to progress.

IdrA chose that path and followed it with good results. He's been a consistent player and always one of the best in the scene.

If CrunCher wants to come up as an equally BM player, let him. But to say IdrA is overrated is just rediculous, especially when CrunCher hasn't attained the same stature as IdrA.

I've already made up my mind that I can't support CrunCher as a fan. This interview was just distasteful. He took the low road with his answers just to "make IdrA rage".

byce

United States98 Posts

March 29 2011 04:08 GMT

#94

I didn't follow BW so I didn't know anything about Mondragon before this tournament, but now I know why he is so loved. So humble, taking it one game at a time. I'm a fan.

Also, I dunno why anyone would be into Cruncher. If he really wanted to make IdrA look bad, he wouldn't make such a big deal of beating him. He had a great opportunity to show that he was the bigger man and not take part in the drama. Instead he's taking screenshots of everything IdrA says, and going out of his way to look like just another immature "umadbro?" gamer you can find in any online games. IdrA has proven himself and this guy, as of right now, is probably just a flash in the pan.

garlicface

Canada4196 Posts

March 29 2011 04:10 GMT

#95

On March 29 2011 13:08 byce wrote:
I didn't follow BW so I didn't know anything about Mondragon before this tournament, but now I know why he is so loved. So humble, taking it one game at a time. I'm a fan.

Also, I dunno why anyone would be into Cruncher. If he really wanted to make IdrA look bad, he wouldn't make such a big deal of beating him. He had a great opportunity to show that he was the bigger man and not take part in the drama. Instead he's taking screenshots of everything IdrA says, and going out of his way to look like just another immature "umadbro?" gamer you can find in any online games. IdrA has proven himself and this guy, as of right now, is probably just a flash in the pan.

Well said.

Elyvilon

United States13143 Posts

March 29 2011 04:10 GMT

#96

On March 29 2011 12:57 hadhubhi wrote:
I feel like I'm alone in this, but I'm just not at all interested in the IdrA/CrunCher drama. I am so much more into the Return of the Mondragon. I would much prefer for players to act more like he does. He's able to be humble, hilarious, and good manner all at the same time. Moreover, I love that he talks about how much he likes playing ZvP while every other Zerg in the world would prefer to be talking about imbalance in the matchup (and I am not taking a personal stance on the existence of imbalance. I just think his is a much better mindset for a player to have).

Gogo Mondragon! May you crush (pun intended) all in your path!

I totally agree with this.

"my ZvT used to be the worst ZvT Europe has ever seen." haha, Mondragon is so awesome.

Swixi

United States73 Posts

March 29 2011 04:11 GMT

#97

Terrible interview by Cruncher. He cheeses IdrA just to see him rage? What? How immature can someone be? I was expecting Cruncher to be more professional and humble. Now he's coming off as a kid who won against a big name and immediately jumped onto some high horse that's actually nonexistent. And then he calls IdrA extremely overrated and "if he isn't practicing 24/7, he is nowhere near being a good player"? lol. Has Cruncher won anything? IdrA's been around for a while now and has been very consistent.

Cruncher seems very childish and arrogant after winning one series. It seems he's riding the high of the currently strong PvZ matchup. It's like when Silver beat IdrA. And Silver's still around and winning tournaments, while IdrA just disappeared.. oh wait.

Cha1R

United States221 Posts

March 29 2011 04:14 GMT

#98

cruncher, i dislike. very. much. most. hated. player
idra will smash him in the future. cant believe he said idra was over rated, with so much sucess, i dont see how hes over rated at all. not to mention crunchers wins being based completely off map/race abuse.

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HowSoOnIsNow

Canada480 Posts

March 29 2011 04:15 GMT

#99

Kas the classy guy, i like that. Cruncher sounded a bit childish in the interview, but still a funny read.
Mondragon and his eternal humbleness and well, NaDa is NaDa.

Great interviews

garlicface

Canada4196 Posts

March 29 2011 04:15 GMT

#100

On March 29 2011 13:11 Swixi wrote:
Terrible interview by Cruncher. He cheeses IdrA just to see him rage? What? How immature can someone be? I was expecting Cruncher to be more professional and humble. Now he's coming off as a kid who won against a big name and immediately jumped onto some high horse that's actually nonexistent. And then he calls IdrA extremely overrated and "if he isn't practicing 24/7, he is nowhere near being a good player"? lol. Has Cruncher won anything? IdrA's been around for a while now and has been very consistent.

Cruncher seems very childish and arrogant after winning one series. It seems he's riding the high of the currently strong PvZ matchup. It's like when Silver beat IdrA. And Silver's still around and winning tournaments, while IdrA just disappeared.. oh wait.

In CrunCher's defense he has won a string of recent showmatches in dominating fashion. Not the greatest credentials to have beside your name, but it's something.