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Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
March 29 2011 11:57 GMT
#341
On March 29 2011 20:21 FIRETRUCK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 20:07 MilesTeg wrote:
Idra's behavior isn't fine, I think everyone but the stupidest hardcore fans agree on that. But everyone but the stupidest haters recognise he's a great player too.
lot.


Of course it's fine. And only the stupidest hardcore conformists would disagree. Somehow you're supposed to and expected to always be happy and never be angry no matter what. Why are you not allowed to get upset from losing? Especially when your opponent is mocking you? How can you sit there and say "IdrAs behavior isn't OK because I think so because I've been taught that the norm says otherwise!"?


Lol, no it's not fine! Being angry is always fine, but insulting other people never is. Esp for e-Sports to develop and grow and eventually become more and more professional and comparable to "normal" sports.
Just image a tennis player after a defeat, instead of shake-hands he says to his opponent "f--- you, you're a faggot, I have more skill" etc etc. I don't think this guy would have many fans. Can't understand how IdrA has any fans anyway. He is (1) bm, (2) arrogant and above all (3) not such a great and successful player.
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
March 29 2011 12:23 GMT
#342
I did not practice in mass game mode, but I practiced intensely (thanks to Tod, SaSe, iNfeRnaL, Testie, kAra and whoever practiced with me).


Anybody noticed that? Testie plays SC2? WHAT?!
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
March 29 2011 12:33 GMT
#343
I always go for the underdog, but there is no doubt Idra was/is the better player even from the losses. Probably didn't see Idras units (under the magic amount of you know whats)
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
March 29 2011 12:44 GMT
#344
On March 29 2011 19:37 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Cruncher just gained another fan with that interview


#2

LOL

btw Mondragon will make the final, you read it here first!
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Tranqje
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 12:50:10
March 29 2011 12:46 GMT
#345
i bet this hate thing between cruncher and idra started when idra picked a game against cruncher for JP and friends where cruncher did the most awefull cheesy 4-gate and got rolled and then left without saying gg (that's ragequitting yes? or that's what people call it when idra does it).

all this being said, it's all very silly lol. time will tell if cruncher sticks around, and personally i think he can, but so will idra. lots of drama to come? this will be like days of our lives^^
If you watch jaws backwards it's about a shark throwing up so many people they have to open up a beach
BigJoe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States210 Posts
March 29 2011 12:58 GMT
#346
the interview with cruncher was hilarious
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 29 2011 13:02 GMT
#347

after g2
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after g1
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purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
March 29 2011 13:04 GMT
#348
The funny thing is that people try to say that Cruncher just roled on the OP ness of toss. That when toss is on 3 bases pumping units zerg cant do shit. But how come Mondragon had no problem crushing toss on the same maps as Idra lost? I mean the skill between mondi and zeerax just cant be so much bigger then between idra and cruncher seeing how bad idra think that cruncher is.

If he is that bad and toss so op, then zeerax would have destroyed Mondragon easy but that did not happen.
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
March 29 2011 13:07 GMT
#349
cruncher just so honest
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
DecoyOn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada45 Posts
March 29 2011 13:07 GMT
#350
Rivalries make everythingi nteresting....

A nice mannered player vs another good mannered player = blah
But when there's rivalries and history...it makes it more epic imo
Shooks
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia256 Posts
March 29 2011 13:11 GMT
#351
Lol all the comments Cruncher made would be funny if he wasn't such a bad player, sorry but turtling on 3 bases with Col/vrs doesn't take skill, IdrA talks trash because he can back it up, he can't.
MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 13:19:55
March 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#352
On March 29 2011 14:55 adeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
A hearty LOL at all of the IdrA fans coming in here to express their righteous outrage that CrunCher would dare take his well-deserved winners interview to call out his opponent for treating him like a speed bump in the run-up their series. All of the people dropping by to say "I hoped that CrunCher would've taken the opportunity to say what an honor it was to play IdrA and to then allocate a question of his interview to allow IdrA to plug his stream" need to remove the goggles and rejoin the real world. The world in which calling your opponent "a walkover" is an absurd insult, where telling your opponent he has no skill is ridiculous gamesmanship, and where predicting two four gate all-ins looks embarrassing when your opponent does nothing of the sort.

It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt.


OMG Tree hugger, best post of this whole thread so far. Problem with IdrA fan's is that they are as delusional as the person they admire (Not all of his fans but a good majority of them). And yeah this situation is a painful reminder of the Rekrul Post, it's pretty much word for word the same... and it's been two years??? Sheesh


From what I understand, most of TL followers never post on this awesome forum and just read it.
So while it is okay to say that some Idra's fan rage because of what Cruncher did and are delusional, it is not okay to say that a good majority does, simply based on the comments on this thread.

EDIT : In fact i'm pretty certain that the average follower of SCII who happens to be an Idra's fan would think that he had it coming. Not every fan of him thinks of him as some kind of deity. They're just fans.
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
March 29 2011 13:13 GMT
#353
On March 29 2011 22:07 DecoyOn wrote:
Rivalries make everythingi nteresting....

A nice mannered player vs another good mannered player = blah
But when there's rivalries and history...it makes it more epic imo


And more sad really
Bagel
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany18 Posts
March 29 2011 13:19 GMT
#354
I just love Mondi in interviews - PLEASE let us see a Nony vs Mondi TSL rematch, let it happen!

The Cruncher/Idra discussion is senseless, everyone's stuck on their own opinion without even considering anything else. But it still is kinda funny :D

Gogo Mondi, Nony, Nada fighting!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
March 29 2011 13:20 GMT
#355
I really like these interview! <3 Keep them up.

Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
March 29 2011 13:22 GMT
#356
On March 29 2011 22:12 MandoRelease wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 14:55 adeezy wrote:
On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
A hearty LOL at all of the IdrA fans coming in here to express their righteous outrage that CrunCher would dare take his well-deserved winners interview to call out his opponent for treating him like a speed bump in the run-up their series. All of the people dropping by to say "I hoped that CrunCher would've taken the opportunity to say what an honor it was to play IdrA and to then allocate a question of his interview to allow IdrA to plug his stream" need to remove the goggles and rejoin the real world. The world in which calling your opponent "a walkover" is an absurd insult, where telling your opponent he has no skill is ridiculous gamesmanship, and where predicting two four gate all-ins looks embarrassing when your opponent does nothing of the sort.

It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt.


OMG Tree hugger, best post of this whole thread so far. Problem with IdrA fan's is that they are as delusional as the person they admire (Not all of his fans but a good majority of them). And yeah this situation is a painful reminder of the Rekrul Post, it's pretty much word for word the same... and it's been two years??? Sheesh


From what I understand, most of TL followers never post on this awesome forum and just read it.
So while it is okay to say that some Idra's fan rage because of what Cruncher did and are delusional, it is not okay to say that a good majority does, simply based on the comments on this thread.

EDIT : In fact i'm pretty certain that the average follower of SCII who happens to be an Idra's fan would think that he had it coming. Not every fan of him thinks of him as some kind of deity. They're just fans.


Yes, you're definitely right. I think I'm a good example of what you're saying. Though I am no Idra fan.
FIRETRUCK
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden78 Posts
March 29 2011 13:23 GMT
#357
On March 29 2011 20:57 Titorelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 20:21 FIRETRUCK wrote:
On March 29 2011 20:07 MilesTeg wrote:
Idra's behavior isn't fine, I think everyone but the stupidest hardcore fans agree on that. But everyone but the stupidest haters recognise he's a great player too.
lot.


Of course it's fine. And only the stupidest hardcore conformists would disagree. Somehow you're supposed to and expected to always be happy and never be angry no matter what. Why are you not allowed to get upset from losing? Especially when your opponent is mocking you? How can you sit there and say "IdrAs behavior isn't OK because I think so because I've been taught that the norm says otherwise!"?


Lol, no it's not fine! Being angry is always fine, but insulting other people never is. Esp for e-Sports to develop and grow and eventually become more and more professional and comparable to "normal" sports.
Just image a tennis player after a defeat, instead of shake-hands he says to his opponent "f--- you, you're a faggot, I have more skill" etc etc. I don't think this guy would have many fans. Can't understand how IdrA has any fans anyway. He is (1) bm, (2) arrogant and above all (3) not such a great and successful player.


If i beat someone in Tennis and that guy is known for having anger issues after losing, I'd not take it personally or even take offense by it if he/she called me a noob or idiot of faggot. I'd know (s)he were just mad for losing. Calling people names when calm and collected is another thing, but even there I'm not bothered. If idra were to literally call me or Cruncher a "fucking noob" on state of the game, I wouldn't care, let alone if he were to call someone overrated or bad. Criticism is ok and everyone has the right to speak their opinion, but taking offense by harsh words is for pussies
( ' .') ('<_' )
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 13:25:29
March 29 2011 13:24 GMT
#358
On March 29 2011 22:12 MandoRelease wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 14:55 adeezy wrote:
On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
EDIT : In fact i'm pretty certain that the average follower of SCII who happens to be an Idra's fan would think that he had it coming. Not every fan of him thinks of him as some kind of deity. They're just fans.

The issue here isn't so much that he insulted idra, but that he is a nobody who says one of the most successful foreign players in both BW and SC2 isn't a good player. Furthermore, he doesn't even respect the game (now if he was a BW veteran he would have a right to say this), so basically he is just a WC3 player who switched to SC2 for money and has no respect for the scene


Cruncher : "would be so nice to play wc3 again after playing sc2. actually win games based on skill instead of retarded gameplay. too bad the general population sucks and blizzard is catering to sc2 like they did to wow so nubs feel good"

Cruncher: "sc2 is so much easier than wc3. half the games are rock paper scissors or flipping a coin right now"
cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
March 29 2011 13:30 GMT
#359
On March 29 2011 22:24 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 22:12 MandoRelease wrote:
On March 29 2011 14:55 adeezy wrote:
On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
EDIT : In fact i'm pretty certain that the average follower of SCII who happens to be an Idra's fan would think that he had it coming. Not every fan of him thinks of him as some kind of deity. They're just fans.

The issue here isn't so much that he insulted idra, but that he is a nobody who says one of the most successful foreign players in both BW and SC2 isn't a good player. Furthermore, he doesn't even respect the game (now if he was a BW veteran he would have a right to say this), so basically he is just a WC3 player who switched to SC2 for money and has no respect for the scene


Cruncher : "would be so nice to play wc3 again after playing sc2. actually win games based on skill instead of retarded gameplay. too bad the general population sucks and blizzard is catering to sc2 like they did to wow so nubs feel good"

Cruncher: "sc2 is so much easier than wc3. half the games are rock paper scissors or flipping a coin right now"


Where did you pull that interview from? I'd like to read the whole thing.
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
March 29 2011 13:31 GMT
#360
Cruncher is like a professional trollolo. I'm sold, and will be cheering for him next round.
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