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CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
March 07 2011 07:33 GMT
#381
im calling irda/Nestea quaterfinal epicness
Micro your Macro
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 07 2011 08:13 GMT
#382
On March 07 2011 16:33 CookieMaker wrote:
im calling irda/Nestea quaterfinal epicness


Idk, Mondie might take out IdrA, that match will be better than the one vs nestea or ret (workin that hivemind, that bracket is zerg land)
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
March 07 2011 08:34 GMT
#383
On March 07 2011 17:13 Arisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 16:33 CookieMaker wrote:
im calling irda/Nestea quaterfinal epicness


Idk, Mondie might take out IdrA, that match will be better than the one vs nestea or ret (workin that hivemind, that bracket is zerg land)

Since when is Mondragon good at SC2? Comparing him to NesTea and Idra is really silly.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 07 2011 08:50 GMT
#384
On March 07 2011 17:34 Sorkoas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 17:13 Arisen wrote:
On March 07 2011 16:33 CookieMaker wrote:
im calling irda/Nestea quaterfinal epicness


Idk, Mondie might take out IdrA, that match will be better than the one vs nestea or ret (workin that hivemind, that bracket is zerg land)

Since when is Mondragon good at SC2? Comparing him to NesTea and Idra is really silly.


Since he was one of the best foriegn RTS player of all time? We've seen what a BW B teamer can do in star2 (MVP, Cool, IrOn, Zergbong), and mondragon was/is at least as talented as any of them. Just because he hasn't had a major tournament presence as of yet, don't assume he's going to be bad. He's probably one of the most talented players out there, and as we've seen in the past, he can thrive with little/no practice.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
March 07 2011 08:59 GMT
#385
On March 07 2011 17:50 Arisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 17:34 Sorkoas wrote:
On March 07 2011 17:13 Arisen wrote:
On March 07 2011 16:33 CookieMaker wrote:
im calling irda/Nestea quaterfinal epicness


Idk, Mondie might take out IdrA, that match will be better than the one vs nestea or ret (workin that hivemind, that bracket is zerg land)

Since when is Mondragon good at SC2? Comparing him to NesTea and Idra is really silly.


Since he was one of the best foriegn RTS player of all time? We've seen what a BW B teamer can do in star2 (MVP, Cool, IrOn, Zergbong), and mondragon was/is at least as talented as any of them. Just because he hasn't had a major tournament presence as of yet, don't assume he's going to be bad. He's probably one of the most talented players out there, and as we've seen in the past, he can thrive with little/no practice.

Have you even seen him play SC2? You are comparing him with the best zergs in the world right now...
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 07 2011 09:03 GMT
#386
On March 07 2011 17:59 Sorkoas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 17:50 Arisen wrote:
On March 07 2011 17:34 Sorkoas wrote:
On March 07 2011 17:13 Arisen wrote:
On March 07 2011 16:33 CookieMaker wrote:
im calling irda/Nestea quaterfinal epicness


Idk, Mondie might take out IdrA, that match will be better than the one vs nestea or ret (workin that hivemind, that bracket is zerg land)

Since when is Mondragon good at SC2? Comparing him to NesTea and Idra is really silly.


Since he was one of the best foriegn RTS player of all time? We've seen what a BW B teamer can do in star2 (MVP, Cool, IrOn, Zergbong), and mondragon was/is at least as talented as any of them. Just because he hasn't had a major tournament presence as of yet, don't assume he's going to be bad. He's probably one of the most talented players out there, and as we've seen in the past, he can thrive with little/no practice.

Have you even seen him play SC2? You are comparing him with the best zergs in the world right now...


Yeah, and he's really strong. I don't know why people doubt he's going to do well. If Flash switched over tommorow, everyone would probably say he's going to do really well regardless, because he's a really strong player. Same with mondragon. He's a great player, and he's got the same foundations as the best players in the world right now (Active B team Korean's at time of release, or top foreigners, and mondragon was right at the top).
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
March 07 2011 09:14 GMT
#387
Ok I've seen him getting schooled by players on my clan's standard and we are far from professional. He has been playing this game quite a lot and been active for a while so it feels odd assuming that he will suddenly be doing much better because it's this big tournament coming up. He's quite far behind most of the other players in this tournament and sure a big underdog here.
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
March 07 2011 09:25 GMT
#388
On March 07 2011 10:51 aMaJinG wrote:
For all the people asking,

First day of competition..

MARCH 19th 2pm EST


Can't wait.

I also just did a quick count of the TL Open qualifier spots. 13 Europeans to 2 North Americans. Ouch! E-Sports, specifically RTS, is still lagging way behind here. Hopefully it'll get some more momentum and exposure with NASL and more MLG and WCG.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
brimmeh
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria11 Posts
March 07 2011 10:09 GMT
#389
Incredible line-up, probably the best the SC2 can offer world-wide. ZeeRaX fighting!
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 10:22:33
March 07 2011 10:13 GMT
#390
i cannot wait for this!!! Going to be some of the best games ever!!!!!! Hopefully the replays will be released pretty quick!!!

imo
Quarters
Tyler vs MC
MVP vs Kas

Boxer vs Huk
Nesta vs Idra

semi:

MC vs MVP
Huk vs Nestea

MVP vs Huk Final

Huk wins
Live and Let Die!
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
March 07 2011 10:45 GMT
#391
lol, Huk wins ) nice.. but I don`t see why are you assuming all of you a Nestea vs Idra match? like come on... they have great oponents.

Can't wait to see more of this, goggo NightEnd, match of your life.
Maru | Life | herO
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 14:03:51
March 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#392
Is there an official bracket pick'em competition yet? Can someone be sure to link it when it comes up? Should be fun. You're going down, DiaBoLuS! btw, our seeds weren't as different as you first let on. I admit I know nothing about mondragon, I've never seen him play so my seeding of him was a complete guess. But I'll stand by my positioning of boxer, who is totally awesome, but seems to be preceded by his reputation. And you have to admit that fruitdealer has been slumping big time since his epic plays in GSL 1.
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
March 07 2011 11:39 GMT
#393
On March 07 2011 10:34 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 09:08 DiaBoLuS wrote:
My "seedings" wouldve been like this:

1 Mvp
2 NesTea
3 MC
4 Jinro
5 NaDa
6 Boxer
7 Fruitdealer
8 Genius
9 IdrA
10 ret
11 White-Ra
12 Kas
13 MorroW
14 HuK
15 Naniwa
16 TLO
17 Strelok
18 SEn
19 Tyler
20 HasuObs
21 GoOdy
22 Loner
23 Fenix
24 Adelscott
25 HayprO
26 qxc
27 Nightend
28 ThorZaIN
29 Ciara
30 Mondragon
31 CrunCher
32 ZeeraX

Leading to the following grid:
[image loading]


and my top30 list is for europe only, here is the link if youre interested:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293

Sry if i annoy you guys, but im so much into lists and rankings

You can't seed a league by a power rank lol. Seeds > invites > qualifiers has an obvious logic to it. There will be some oddities in the player pool and seeding for a while until the transitions smooth out, just like GSL has the "wrong" players in Code-S right now, and MLG has the "wrong" players in its 16 seeded players, and IEM5 had the "wrong" players representing NA and EU and KR, and Blizzcon damn near always has the wrong players.


IEM has no code s or a, the "right" players either show up at the tournament or they don't
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
March 07 2011 12:31 GMT
#394
On March 07 2011 20:39 arctics86 wrote:
IEM has no code s or a, the "right" players either show up at the tournament or they don't

Hmmm? IEM players qualified many many months ago.
Administrator
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
March 07 2011 13:04 GMT
#395
On March 07 2011 09:42 aMaJinG wrote:
Was this video made before Korean dominance of IEM? These guys are not buying into the Korean hype.


Those guys were just being rational and knowledgeable enough, unlike a bunch of people who will only see the end ranking at IEM and scream KOREAN DOMINANCE as if it was some sort of a be all end all argument.

Korean dominance in BW was displayed by the skill gap that was visible in the actual games, not a WCG medal sheet or anything. When you see a top Korean BW pro play the game, you can tell that they're really that much better than any non-Korean. This isn't the case in SC2 at all (yet).

What we've had at IEM is Ace exploiting a new air build in PvZ, Squirtle being lucky as hell and Moon probably playing the best tournament games in SC2 to date. It wasn't domination at all, it was just how things worked out in the end.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
March 07 2011 13:06 GMT
#396
On March 07 2011 10:34 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 09:08 DiaBoLuS wrote:
My "seedings" wouldve been like this:

1 Mvp
2 NesTea
3 MC
4 Jinro
5 NaDa
6 Boxer
7 Fruitdealer
8 Genius
9 IdrA
10 ret
11 White-Ra
12 Kas
13 MorroW
14 HuK
15 Naniwa
16 TLO
17 Strelok
18 SEn
19 Tyler
20 HasuObs
21 GoOdy
22 Loner
23 Fenix
24 Adelscott
25 HayprO
26 qxc
27 Nightend
28 ThorZaIN
29 Ciara
30 Mondragon
31 CrunCher
32 ZeeraX

Leading to the following grid:
[image loading]


and my top30 list is for europe only, here is the link if youre interested:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293

Sry if i annoy you guys, but im so much into lists and rankings

You can't seed a league by a power rank lol. Seeds > invites > qualifiers has an obvious logic to it. There will be some oddities in the player pool and seeding for a while until the transitions smooth out, just like GSL has the "wrong" players in Code-S right now, and MLG has the "wrong" players in its 16 seeded players, and IEM5 had the "wrong" players representing NA and EU and KR, and Blizzcon damn near always has the wrong players.



ye i know, i dont want to say TSL should seed as i did, no offense xd
I just like to play around with brackets and stuff
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 13:34:02
March 07 2011 13:25 GMT
#397
On March 07 2011 21:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 20:39 arctics86 wrote:
IEM has no code s or a, the "right" players either show up at the tournament or they don't

Hmmm? IEM players qualified many many months ago.


Just wanted to say that the reason the "wrong" players attended iem was not a system like code s/a but the fact that some of the "right" players didn't participate in the tournament incl. the online stage.
And I wouldn't say that Fenix/QXC for na and sjow/white-ra/tarson/demuslim (socke) for eu were the "wrong" players.

Really looking forward to this TSL, hopefully there will be some upsets
O2H
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium13 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 13:28:55
March 07 2011 13:28 GMT
#398
So, at the risk of kicking in an open door.

When will the TSL be held, is that released yet ? (besides "March")
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 14:10:56
March 07 2011 14:10 GMT
#399
On March 07 2011 22:25 arctics86 wrote:

Just wanted to say that the reason the "wrong" players attended iem was not a system like code s/a but the fact that some of the "right" players didn't participate in the tournament incl. the online stage.
And I wouldn't say that Fenix/QXC for na and sjow/white-ra/tarson/demuslim (socke) for eu were the "wrong" players.


Agreed. The qualification process for IEM WC was one of the most grueling open qualification systems I've ever seen. For NA and Europe, it was definitely the "right" players. Shame IEM couldn't organize an equally grueling quali system for Korea, but perhaps they will try to as ESL Asia gets itself established.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 16:06:33
March 07 2011 15:58 GMT
#400
wowwww! EVERY matchup is amazing. Its hard to say "Oh it sucks this guy got matched with so and so. All the players i feel have a good shot at winning. I have no clue who will win.

Zeerax - learn more than one build XD You seemed to do the same build every time ive seen you. He is very susceptible to early pressure.

GL to goody though. If you take down nestea your e-rep will shoot through the roof! XD
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