I doubt performance was the only factor in these selections. They probably considered the appeal of the players as well. Who do the fans really want to see? Do second tier Korean Zergs like Zenio, Check, or July have as much appeal to the fans as HayprO? Maybe July due to his SC:BW career, but Zenio and Check are not even close. July hasn't received the fame he got in SC:BW, so he's just another player to SC2 fans who haven't watched much SC:BW (like myself). So, I think HayprO is a better invite than the Korean Zergs.
mOOnGLaDe, on the other hand, would probably be a better choice than HayprO. No one is really close to mOOnGLaDe's level in Oceania and his win over Loner shows he can compete with one of the top Asian players. He would bring a lot of interest to the TSL from Oceania and Southeast Asia. But, we haven't seen him compete a whole lot outside of his region. I think this would have been the perfect event to see how he stacks up with the best in the world.
I don't think HayprO is a bad choice, but mOOnGLaDe would've been a better one.
If haypro read this thread and saw all of you morons going 'OMG Y HAYPRO INWAIT SO BIAS' how do you think he'd feel? He's an amazing player that has had a bad luck streak. Jinro didnt do anything before winning that MLG for a long time, look at him now. I'd watch haypro over zenio or check any day of the week quit bitchin
On February 13 2011 17:37 Hoju wrote: I doubt performance was the only factor in these selections. They probably considered the appeal of the players as well. Who do the fans really want to see? Do second tier Korean Zergs like Zenio, Check, or July have as much appeal to the fans as HayprO? Maybe July due to his SC:BW career, but Zenio and Check are not even close. July hasn't received the fame he got in SC:BW, so he's just another player to SC2 fans who haven't watched much SC:BW (like myself). So, I think HayprO is a better invite than the Korean Zergs.
mOOnGLaDe, on the other hand, would probably be a better choice than HayprO. No one is really close to mOOnGLaDe's level in Oceania and his win over Loner shows he can compete with one of the top Asian players. He would bring a lot of interest to the TSL from Oceania and Southeast Asia. But, we haven't seen him compete a whole lot outside of his region. I think this would have been the perfect event to see how he stacks up with the best in the world.
I don't think HayprO is a bad choice, but mOOnGLaDe would've been a better one.
I think Haypro is a good choice. They should invite glade aswell.
On February 13 2011 17:11 Ansinjunger wrote: I think we can all agree MVP and MKP will be invited, and Jinro will participate. But Nada and Boxer aren't necessarily shoo-ins except based on fame and that they are still Code S. There are many a Terran player who might be more deserving based on most recent GSL performance. ZenexByun, ST_Bomber, oGs.Ensnare and oGs.TOP looked particularly strong recently. And there's always Clide . I'm still hopeful to see at least Nada or Boxer, but if MVP or MKP don't attend, there's more names to consider.
Agreed. MKP/MVP/Jinro are basically guarantees, the other 2 are up for grabs IMO. Even though I see one of them being boxer, I'd prefer the other one to be someone who isn't as known in GSL, like Bomber, as the other guys have already had their tastes in code A/S.
edit* I love nada as much as the next guy (on a mechanical level) however his decision making is questionable at times.
While there are, likely, better Terrans than Boxer & Nada out there... think about this. This is a Team Liquid event. If they can possibly get one or both, they're going to and they should. The site is, for all practical purposes, the result of the eSports industry those two helped build. If they can get them for a tournament, they should. If you want to talk about buzz/good return for their sponsors, they really, really should. This place will explode if they get both, almost ensuring a large viewing audience for the rounds. (Aside from what should be really awesome play all around)
Jinro (nobrainer) Nada (oGs player, has connections) Boxer (was probally invited, not sure if accepted, he has to run a team after all) Foxer (finalist of GSL and really fucking good player) MvP (Probally best terran to date atm) who else maybe? TOP? Idk, any of the oGs / TSL / IM guys seems willing to come to it.
On February 13 2011 17:46 TheAntZ wrote: If haypro read this thread and saw all of you morons going 'OMG Y HAYPRO INWAIT SO BIAS' how do you think he'd feel? He's an amazing player that has had a bad luck streak. Jinro didnt do anything before winning that MLG for a long time, look at him now. I'd watch haypro over zenio or check any day of the week quit bitchin
thats your opinion, as for Jinro he hadn't had many had many opportunities to prove himself when he went to korea... it can be a bit random trying to qualify for GSL, a hard bracket or very cheesy opponents can make it difficult to qualify since there are no seeds and it is single elimination
you can't just call everyone a whining moron just because you don't like their opinions, imo moonglade would have been a better invite than haypro, as for how he'd feel if he read it i'd think he should become more motivated and prove us wrong by showing great games
On February 13 2011 17:46 TheAntZ wrote: If haypro read this thread and saw all of you morons going 'OMG Y HAYPRO INWAIT SO BIAS' how do you think he'd feel? He's an amazing player that has had a bad luck streak. Jinro didnt do anything before winning that MLG for a long time, look at him now. I'd watch haypro over zenio or check any day of the week quit bitchin
thats your opinion, as for Jinro he hadn't had many had many opportunities to prove himself when he went to korea... it can be a bit random trying to qualify for GSL, a hard bracket or very cheesy opponents can make it difficult to qualify since there are no seeds and it is single elimination
This is ironic given Haypro has actually won or placed well in SC2 tournaments outside of Korea (Jinro only won MLG) and was cheesed out of GSL3 by BitByBitPrime using a pretty abusive strategy that not many people had solved by that point. How about you give him a break... He may just do a Jinro and I think he would appreciate our support.
God this is awesome. Idra, Fruitdealer, and Nestea is awesome. I really like Ret too, and I look forward to Haypro revitalizing his name after the (rather embarrassing imo) defeat to BitByBit in the GSL. Definitely looking forward to this!
I was really looking forward and hoping for July if only because he seems like one of those players with not only an amazing background but sparklings of something really great in his play. Maybe that's just me but I guess one can't get everything one wants I am just happy to hear Nestea and Fruitdealer.
Haypro is.. a curious choice. I have high hopes for him sense he got this invite. If the GSTL has shown us anything just because a guy doesn't qualify for code a or s doesn't mean they are not code s material. I mean I don't know about you but I wouldn't be surprised if he did really well in this TSL!
idra, ret, cool and zergbong is standard. would have much preferred july, moonglade or a sixth terran instead of haypro though, although i guess inviting your whole team to your own tournament is standard.
so i guess they invite jinro/boxer/nada/mvp/marineking, but maybe they invite loner?
EPT
. I'm still hopeful to see at least Nada or Boxer, but if MVP or MKP don't attend, there's more names to consider. 
