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[TSL] Zerg Invites

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[TSL] Zerg Invites

Text byPlexa
February 13th, 2011 01:46 GMT
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With the open qualifier portion of the PokerStrategy.com TSL is approaching it's conclusion, it's time that we announced some more of our Korean invites. Last week we announced that three of the best Protoss players in the world would be joining us for TSL3 - Genius, Huk and MC. As promised, this news post will reveal our five Zerg invites. That leaves the announcement of our remaining 5 Terran players for next week.

Zerg players we have invited to the TSL this season are truly phenomenal players. They have had profound influences on the Zerg metagame and continue to be players which inspire fans around the world. They represent the small glimmer of hope that a Zerg will rise and claim some tournament wins back from the Terrans. They are truly the best of the best, and we are honoured to have them participate this season.

Before we get into the Zerg invites, you might like to enter our raffle by completing the quiz over at PokerStrategy.com - you never know, you might be the lucky person getting an all expenses paid trip to Korea!

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IdrA, or maybe better known as the Gracken, has become a household name over the past year. After a prolonged experience as a Progamer for CJ Entus in Starcraft 1, IdrA jumped right into Starcraft 2 the moment the beta hit. Since then he has been the Zerg Zergs aspire to be. He set the tone for the race with his macro oriented play and has been one of the key contributors to the Zerg metagame in all matchups. Despite not making the Top 8 in the first three seasons of the GSL, IdrA was one of the most consistent performers throughout and actively had teams of Koreans devising strategies solely for the purpose of eliminating him. His consistency was rewarded with a place in Code S. Last season he finally broke into the Top 8 where he fell to the Gorilla Terran, Jinro, in an entertaining Bo5 series. Internationally, Idra has only ever not made the final of a foreign tournament once (MLG Dallas) and is always the man to beat when he shows up. After making the previous two TSLs, IdrA will be looking to take his first TSL title this season - anything else would be a disappointment for such a talented and skilled player.

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Despite flying under the radar for quite some time, Haypro is one of the strongest Zergs around. He made it through the gruelling GSL Qualifiers to get a shot in the GSL where he unfortunately fell to BitByBit.Prime. More recently Haypro was selected as one of the Code A seeds and you will be seeing him later this month as he tries to qualify for Code S. In January Haypro briefly returned to Europe to participate in some tournaments. He placed fourth in the PokerIdol tournament (behind Select, Sjow and TLO) and won the first XMG Series Cup over Hasuobs. Haypro has also been a key player for TLAF-Liquid` in the Machinima Team Invitational as well as the GosuCoaching Premier League where he is currently tied for 1st place for most wins on TLAF-Liquid`. His list of scalps from the team leagues include EG's DeMuslim and ROOT's KiWiKaKi. This is Haypro's second TSL as he qualified for the first season where he lost to Brat_OK.

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After a prolonged and illustrious career in Brood War, including a stint in Korea as a Progamer, we all thought ret was done with gaming. After IEM Cologne, that all changed. Revitalised by the LAN atmosphere, ret got right back into things and began his career as a professional Starcraft 2 player. Despite his delayed start, ret's natural talent for the game has allowed him to catch right up to the worlds best in no time. At MLG Dallas he placed seventh, and considering he had only started practising seriously a few months earlier this is an amazing result given the strength of the MLG Dallas lineup. His natural talent could not be withheld in the GSL either - after finishing top 32 of GSL Season 3, he went on to earn Code A through the Code A tie breakers. Unfortunately, he was unable to secure Code S that season but has been seeded into Code A for the upcoming qualifiers. He's recently taken trip back to Europe to participate in Assembly Winter. He took on the best Europe had to offer and crushed his way to the final where he defeated MorroW 3-1. This is ret's third TSL and after showing people what was up in Helsinki, this season he looks poised to bring the pain in the TSL while simultaneously clinching Code S in Korea.

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Nicknames haven't really been given out in SC2 yet, barring Jinro and Idra. But if they had, FruitDealer would be known as the Gambler Zerg. Why? Because there isn't anyone who takes larger risks than him. FruitDealer started out in SC2 after a being forced to retire from being a SC1 Progamer to support his parents after showing such promise and potential. FruitDealer's performance during the beta was truly impressive and he came out of it regarded one of the strongest Korean players. His feats during the beta include winning the 17173 SC2 World Cup, a tournament comprised of the world's best players, over Dimaga 4-3 defeating players like Maka and Tester along the way. During the first season of the GSL he was one of the firm favorites to take the tournament - and indeed, he defeated Rainbow 4-1 in the final. The key to his success is his massive risk taking and volatile unpredictability. You can never be certain about what style FruitDealer is going to play - is he going to go completely all in with waves upon waves of banelings? Or is he going to macro up and spam more drones than is safe (like he did against TOP)? It's this massive risk taking that got him the GSL S1 win, and nearly cost him his spot in Code S last season. Fruitdealer is such an interesting Zerg player, and a true asset to the TSL.

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If you asked the question "who is the best Zerg player in the world" there is little doubt that the answer would be NesTea. Simply put, the guy is phenomenal. He went through GSL2 undefeated until the finals which he won 4-3, made it to the Ro8 of GSL3 and then made the semifinals of GSL4 where he lost to the eventual winner MVP. As a result of his consistency he has won the most prize money in SC2 so far. During the Gainward tournament, he was the only Zerg in the Round of 8 where every other player was Terran. NesTea went against the odds and made it through to the final against MVP and ended up taking second place. Despite being one of the strongest players in the Korean scene, NesTea has never competed in an international tournament before. This is the first chance for the best players from across the globe get their shot at taking on the best Zerg in the world without travelling to Korea. NesTea will be looking to add $15k to his already impressive winnings and show that he is the best player in the world by winning the TSL. In the words of Artosis, his mere presence in the TSL makes me all wiggly and jiggly.


Things just got real here at the TSL. The champions of Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of the GSL will be competing along side the best of the international scene. If that doesn't get you excited then I don't know what will. Next week we unveil our five Terran invites, an announcement which promises to raise the stakes of the TSL to a whole new level. Tune in to the official TeamLiquid cast for Qualifier #7 where just before the finals are casted we will announce the final five invites.

Stay tuned for our recap of the 6th TSL Qualifier.


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leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
February 13 2011 01:46 GMT
#2
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RoyaleBrainSlug
Profile Joined December 2010
United States295 Posts
February 13 2011 01:46 GMT
#3
FUUUUUUUUUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

this tsl is just going to be the greatest thing in the history of time
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Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
February 13 2011 01:46 GMT
#4
sweet jesus, two GSL champions
Jaedong plz
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#5
NESTEA FIGHTIIING°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#6
Plexa you're so on the ball, posting this up the instant it's announced on the stream! haha
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Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 01:51:50
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#7
These guys are so good, excited for TSL 3! Nice write up Plexa.
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raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#8
i thought it was Korean invites.. not liquid invites
Fluger
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden32 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#9
OMG OMG OMG!
This is fucking epic! :D :D :D
michaelthe
Profile Joined February 2010
United States359 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#10
can we get this forum update a litter faster next time. geez.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#11
Woooooh! So excited for this now.

Can't wait for the final invites.
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mrscheng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden658 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#12
yeah!
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daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#13
Hell yeah! Gogo NesTea
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Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
February 13 2011 01:47 GMT
#14
This has to be the best tournament yet. Holy fuck
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
February 13 2011 01:48 GMT
#15
Bananazerg!
. . . nevermore
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
February 13 2011 01:48 GMT
#16
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG. EPIC EPIC EPIC EPCI EPIC. Good getting them!!!
michaelthe
Profile Joined February 2010
United States359 Posts
February 13 2011 01:48 GMT
#17
On February 13 2011 10:47 raser wrote:
i thought it was Korean invites.. not liquid invites


/palmface
puttputt
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada240 Posts
February 13 2011 01:48 GMT
#18
Sick lineup. I hope BoxeR gets a Terran invite, that would make this tournament complete!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 13 2011 01:49 GMT
#19
Amazing, TSL 3 is gonna be so fucking super sick.
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SpaNkinG
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey89 Posts
February 13 2011 01:49 GMT
#20
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

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Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
February 13 2011 01:49 GMT
#21
this is gonna be phenomenal
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adRo.
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia243 Posts
February 13 2011 01:49 GMT
#22
Amazing player invites!~ Very excited to see this!
As soon as i heard it was 5 zerg invites i knew it would be these guys!
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Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 13 2011 01:49 GMT
#23
On February 13 2011 10:47 raser wrote:
i thought it was Korean invites.. not liquid invites


It's korean SERVER invites, not just korean people.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
February 13 2011 01:50 GMT
#24
yeah, thats the five i expected^^
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godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
February 13 2011 01:51 GMT
#25
On February 13 2011 10:49 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:47 raser wrote:
i thought it was Korean invites.. not liquid invites


It's korean SERVER invites, not just korean people.

Anyways u got FD and nestea, i dont even care if they invite 3 random zerg we never heard of.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 01:51:48
February 13 2011 01:51 GMT
#26
4 Good invites! +1

Would have hoped TL wouldnt be to biased for the biggest online tournament ever but guess that dident happend. Still going to be insane awesome!
mczbot
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany70 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 01:53:22
February 13 2011 01:52 GMT
#27
The champions of Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of the GSL will be competing alongside the best of the international scene

^
spoiler ? so (T)MVP is playing aswell? // edit: nvm im stupid, mc won gsl 3, im soooo sorry :D

oh god, im superpumped for this
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
February 13 2011 01:52 GMT
#28
very happy that nestea is playing
Chrome604
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada59 Posts
February 13 2011 01:52 GMT
#29
Would have been cool to see July, but I suppose he has been pretty inconsistent in SC2.
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
February 13 2011 01:52 GMT
#30
Liquid delivers.......great stuff guys, cant believe the post was up so soon, the staff must be even more excited than us!!!!
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Shodaa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada404 Posts
February 13 2011 01:52 GMT
#31
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren


Well, Morrow and Dimaga arent in Korea and anyway Dimaga is banned from TL event because he abused in TSL2.

Really cool to see 2 GSL Champions in TSL :D
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
February 13 2011 01:52 GMT
#32
So sweet. I'm crazy glad NesTea accepted the invite.
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bigjmachine
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States314 Posts
February 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#33
Very nice zerg picks
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michaelthe
Profile Joined February 2010
United States359 Posts
February 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#34
On February 13 2011 10:52 mczbot wrote:
The champions of Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of the GSL will be competing alongside the best of the international scene

^
spoiler ? so (T)MVP is playing aswell?

oh god, im superpumped for this


Im sure they would love to have him, but I dunno if you should expect EVERY top Korean to be able to accept...
Rakkat
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom69 Posts
February 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#35
On February 13 2011 10:52 mczbot wrote:
The champions of Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of the GSL will be competing alongside the best of the international scene

^
spoiler ? so (T)MVP is playing aswell?

oh god, im superpumped for this


MVP won season 4, but hopefully he will be among the terran invites too
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imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
February 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#36
On February 13 2011 10:52 mczbot wrote:
The champions of Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of the GSL will be competing alongside the best of the international scene

^
spoiler ? so (T)MVP is playing aswell?

oh god, im superpumped for this


That's GSL4. They mean FD, Nestea, and MC. Though I'd be surprised if MVP was left out...
Sunburst
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada31 Posts
February 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#37
On February 13 2011 10:52 mczbot wrote:
The champions of Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of the GSL will be competing alongside the best of the international scene

^
spoiler ? so (T)MVP is playing aswell? // edit: nvm im stupid, mc won gsl 3, im soooo sorry :D

oh god, im superpumped for this


MC won GSL3
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
February 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#38
On February 13 2011 10:47 raser wrote:
i thought it was Korean invites.. not liquid invites


Im sick of people bashing TeamLiquid for inviting their own players. Yeah boviously they're biased about it, but really, considering many of the players who qualify will have placed 9th in multiple TLopens, can you really say HayPro and Ret don't belong in there?

GO TEAM LIQUID
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#39
would have preferred Zenio over FruitDealer but I guess FD is a bigger name
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eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#40
This tournament is gonna be fucking sick !
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
February 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#41
@ all of the "omg liquid inviting their own players omgomgomg"

Did anyone really not expect Liquid to invite them? That's like STX not being allowed to play in the STX League in Brood War... The Liquid guys deserve to play in TSL3 just as much as everyone else does, stop whining about the invites already. lol.
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Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
February 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#42
I knew it! IdrA, Ret and HayprO were certs, and I couldn't think of any other zergs as worthy as NesTea and FruitDealer.

I can't wait to see the Terran invites. Hopefully MVP is amongst them.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38156 Posts
February 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#43
I really didn't expect you'd be able to get NesTea, that's both huge and awesome =)

Most excited to hear he's coming, since it was pretty obvious ret would be invited etc
Sunburst
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada31 Posts
February 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#44
On February 13 2011 10:53 udgnim wrote:
would have preferred Zenio over FruitDealer but I guess FD is a bigger name


I thought Zenio was doing his military service soon?
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#45
NesTea!!!! I'm so pumped.
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#46
Such awesome picks!
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schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:19:15
February 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#47
Omg that's a pretty sick Zerg line up.. this is really starting to look like THE international tournament, great work TL! :O

Edit: Omg again, I just saw who else have already qualified (yeah ok so I haven't been keeping up with the qualifiers like I should).. I'm absolutely giddy about the possible Terran invites now ><
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TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
February 13 2011 01:56 GMT
#48
On February 13 2011 10:54 Asha` wrote:
I really didn't expect you'd be able to get NesTea, that's both huge and awesome =)

Most excited to hear he's coming, since it was pretty obvious ret would be invited etc


Why would you not think that? Ofcause Nestea will say yes all he realy have to do is play a few online games and have a chance for good money.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 01:57 GMT
#49
On February 13 2011 10:54 Torenhire wrote:
@ all of the "omg liquid inviting their own players omgomgomg"

Did anyone really not expect Liquid to invite them? That's like STX not being allowed to play in the STX League in Brood War... The Liquid guys deserve to play in TSL3 just as much as everyone else does, stop whining about the invites already. lol.


That`s actually a poor analogy because not every STX player plays. Only the best A-Team members make the cut.

With that said, there should be no surprises here especially after they named the Protoss players.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 13 2011 01:57 GMT
#50
lol wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

oh my fucking god i just went "WOOOOW" in real life in my room by my fuckgin self

NES fucking TEA lol omg

If they got 3 champions so far, its guaranteed that MVP and Foxer and maybe even Boxer and Nada will be Terran invites, oh my god
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jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
February 13 2011 01:57 GMT
#51
disappointed with the lack of a Morrow invite, but i guess we already knew he wouldnt get one since he's been playing in the tlopens.
impressed and excited as hell thanks to the nestea invite and the confirmations of ret & idra!

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ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
February 13 2011 01:58 GMT
#52
you know it does make sense because haypro and ret would have with no doubt qualified if they were playing from EU in all the qualifiers
Sicky
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom121 Posts
February 13 2011 01:58 GMT
#53
Holy shit. This is going to be so good.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 01:58 GMT
#54
On February 13 2011 10:57 ZlaSHeR wrote:
lol wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

oh my fucking god i just went "WOOOOW" in real life in my room by my fuckgin self

NES fucking TEA lol omg

If they got 3 champions so far, its guaranteed that MVP and Foxer and maybe even Boxer and Nada will be Terran invites, oh my god


You left out one guy. Jinro.

There you have it. All the Korean invites.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 13 2011 01:59 GMT
#55
Guys, you know that the invites are only for asian players right? Morrow was NEVER GOING TO GET AN INVITE, nor Dimaga

One person I do disagree with is Moonglade not getting invited, He too is Code A, he shit on Loner in the Asian IEM Qualifier, and he also is in Code A. His accomplishments are up there with the best of them, he deserved one.
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Rabbet
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada404 Posts
February 13 2011 01:59 GMT
#56
So how is the lag going to be overcome for the rest of the tournament? I keep seeing this as the reason that the koreans are being invited rather than working their way through the TL opens.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13816 Posts
February 13 2011 01:59 GMT
#57
On February 13 2011 10:46 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
sweet jesus, two GSL champions



ogsMC was one of the protoss invites so thats all of the winning preseason GSL winners

Who knows TSL might claim all the GSL winners yet.

This is truly the best thing I've been waitng for in a while. only thing that can beat it is SC2 succeeding in MLG like korea.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 13 2011 02:00 GMT
#58
On February 13 2011 10:58 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:57 ZlaSHeR wrote:
lol wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

oh my fucking god i just went "WOOOOW" in real life in my room by my fuckgin self

NES fucking TEA lol omg

If they got 3 champions so far, its guaranteed that MVP and Foxer and maybe even Boxer and Nada will be Terran invites, oh my god


You left out one guy. Jinro.

There you have it. All the Korean invites.


There are 14 invites right? 3 protoss, 5 zergs, so there will be 6 terrans

Foxer, MVP, Jinro, Nada, Boxer, +1

Anyways, I still think Moonglade deserves a spot for what he's done. He represents the whole SEA server and is up there with haypro, Ret, or fruitdealer IMO.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 02:01 GMT
#59
ZlaSHeR I think it would be best if we called them Asia Server players. The TL guys aren`t ``Asian.``

That bothers me when people say Asian players.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
February 13 2011 02:01 GMT
#60
wow. wow. wow. this is gonan fuckin smoke any gsl. they should make the tsl a regular event
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Aim 4 My Head
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand69 Posts
February 13 2011 02:01 GMT
#61
On February 13 2011 11:00 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:58 StarStruck wrote:
On February 13 2011 10:57 ZlaSHeR wrote:
lol wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

oh my fucking god i just went "WOOOOW" in real life in my room by my fuckgin self

NES fucking TEA lol omg

If they got 3 champions so far, its guaranteed that MVP and Foxer and maybe even Boxer and Nada will be Terran invites, oh my god


You left out one guy. Jinro.

There you have it. All the Korean invites.


There are 14 invites right? 3 protoss, 5 zergs, so there will be 6 terrans

Foxer, MVP, Jinro, Nada, Boxer, +1

Anyways, I still think Moonglade deserves a spot for what he's done. He represents the whole SEA server and is up there with haypro, Ret, or fruitdealer IMO.


13 koreans, so 5 terrans (not 6).
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#62
On February 13 2011 11:01 StarStruck wrote:
ZlaSHeR I think it would be best if we called them Asia Server players. The TL guys aren`t ``Asian.``

That bothers me when people say Asian players.


Sorry, was typing fast but i think yall get the point, 14 asian server players (Moonglade should be one )
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Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
February 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#63
Yes! IdrA still got invited!
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:03:06
February 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#64
No there are only 13 invites.

It`s okay. I wish MoonGlade was invited too, but sadly he is not. ;I
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:03:24
February 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#65
this is awesome!
here's my hopes for terran invites

(T)Jinro (2 straight ro4s, easily qualifies)
(T)MVP (most would say he's the best player in the world)
(T)MarineKing (double silver)
(T)TheStC (one of the best players not many know about, may not be able to do it because of military)
(T)BitByBit (best player in history)
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
February 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#66
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren


I think it was partly because living in korea, players like Idra Haypro and Ret might not be able to play in the TLOpens just being busy with other stuff, hence Haypro would get an invite over dimaga. Just a guess tho
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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
February 13 2011 02:03 GMT
#67
amazing lineup combined with Sen from TSL previous season, we're looking at the best of the best.
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netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
February 13 2011 02:03 GMT
#68
If any foreigner (besides those guys in korea) makes top 8 it would be a great accomplishment given the player field.

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Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile525 Posts
February 13 2011 02:04 GMT
#69
:D nice invitees, i was expecting the same names.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 02:04 GMT
#70
That and you have to be residing in Korea.
FastgunZ
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
February 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#71
On February 13 2011 11:02 Antoine wrote:
this is awesome!
here's my hopes for terran invites

(T)Jinro (2 straight ro4s, easily qualifies)
(T)MVP (most would say he's the best player in the world)
(T)MarineKing (double silver)
(T)TheStC (one of the best players not many know about, may not be able to do it because of military)
(T)BitByBit (best player in history)


bitbybit did eliminate haypro from the gsl.. so why not inv them both!
FrostShadow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
February 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#72
How can you possibly justify haypro's invite objectively?

Clearly CheckPrime and oGsZenio are superior zergs, just off the top of my head. By FAR better results consistently in sc2.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#73
On February 13 2011 11:02 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren


I think it was partly because living in korea, players like Idra Haypro and Ret might not be able to play in the TLOpens just being busy with other stuff, hence Haypro would get an invite over dimaga. Just a guess tho

Morrow is not in korea so he cannot get an invite. Dimaga is banned from participating in TSL 3.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 02:06 GMT
#74
On February 13 2011 11:03 netherDrake wrote:
If any foreigner (besides those guys in korea) makes top 8 it would be a great accomplishment given the player field.



I think the odds are actually stacked against players like FD, Nestea, MC, Foxer, etc. I think only one of them will make it in the top 3.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:07:38
February 13 2011 02:06 GMT
#75
Is anyone else surprised at the lack of Sen? I thought he would be one of the asian server invites.

edit: forgot he was already qualified.

Also - I'm hoping for only 4 Terran invites and 1 Random invite (gumiho.fou ftw!)
Although that means no invite for either Boxer or NaDa... 14 invites plz!
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Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
February 13 2011 02:06 GMT
#76
On February 13 2011 11:05 FrostShadow wrote:
How can you possibly justify haypro's invite objectively?

Clearly CheckPrime and oGsZenio are superior zergs, just off the top of my head. By FAR better results consistently in sc2.


Why does it matter if they are objective? Its their tournament they can invite who they want. If they invite some 100 bronze player it wouldn't be up to us. Im happy with the choices and you should be too.
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whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:12:35
February 13 2011 02:07 GMT
#77
GODLY..

For the korean invites.. I thought they actually meant koreans..

Would have loved to have seen Check or Zenio invited. I'm just glad glade has qualified :D
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
February 13 2011 02:07 GMT
#78
The main reason this excites me is the prospect of seeing foreigners taking games off Koreans.

The other reason is; Fruitdealer, yay!
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
February 13 2011 02:08 GMT
#79
Nice Zerg line-up. Can't wait to see the terran invites.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 02:08 GMT
#80
On February 13 2011 11:06 strongandbig wrote:
Is anyone else surprised at the lack of Sen? I thought he would be one of the asian server invites.

edit: forgot he was already qualified.

Also - I'm hoping for only 4 Terran invites and 1 Random invite (gumiho.fou ftw!)
Although that means no invite for either Boxer or NaDa... 14 invites plz!


Dude he`s one of the seeds from TSL2. Do you guys even look before you type, seriously.
caster0123
Profile Joined October 2010
324 Posts
February 13 2011 02:09 GMT
#81
So, are these korean players gonna come to the US to play?
FastgunZ
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
February 13 2011 02:10 GMT
#82
On February 13 2011 11:06 Highwinds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 11:05 FrostShadow wrote:
How can you possibly justify haypro's invite objectively?

Clearly CheckPrime and oGsZenio are superior zergs, just off the top of my head. By FAR better results consistently in sc2.


Why does it matter if they are objective? Its their tournament they can invite who they want. If they invite some 100 bronze player it wouldn't be up to us. Im happy with the choices and you should be too.


You're right they can invite whoever they want, but why should i be happy if they invite lesser quality players? I wish they put the overall quality of the tournament before promoting one of their players that hasn't produced results than can compare with other available zergs. with that said I am still very excited for tsl.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
February 13 2011 02:10 GMT
#83
This tournament will just be like a Code S tournament. Soooo many good players.

For the terran I'm hoping for Jinro, MarineKing, MVP, Bomber, BoxeR or NaDa. That would be such a stacked Terran lineup!

(I pretty much hope Bomber is in there as he's starting to really grow on me.)
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Panicc
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany163 Posts
February 13 2011 02:11 GMT
#84
On February 13 2011 11:10 FastgunZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 11:06 Highwinds wrote:
On February 13 2011 11:05 FrostShadow wrote:
How can you possibly justify haypro's invite objectively?

Clearly CheckPrime and oGsZenio are superior zergs, just off the top of my head. By FAR better results consistently in sc2.


Why does it matter if they are objective? Its their tournament they can invite who they want. If they invite some 100 bronze player it wouldn't be up to us. Im happy with the choices and you should be too.


You're right they can invite whoever they want, but why should i be happy if they invite lesser quality players? I wish they put the overall quality of the tournament before promoting one of their players that hasn't produced results than can compare with other available zergs. with that said I am still very excited for tsl.


show some respect and stop posting. Thank you !


Idra will win tsl3 !
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
February 13 2011 02:12 GMT
#85
On February 13 2011 11:08 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 11:06 strongandbig wrote:
Is anyone else surprised at the lack of Sen? I thought he would be one of the asian server invites.

edit: forgot he was already qualified.

Also - I'm hoping for only 4 Terran invites and 1 Random invite (gumiho.fou ftw!)
Although that means no invite for either Boxer or NaDa... 14 invites plz!


Dude he`s one of the seeds from TSL2. Do you guys even look before you type, seriously.



Lol, I love how my edit explaining exactly what you say is even quoted in your own post. Thanks for repping the TL community and our excellent reading abilities, man.
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Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
February 13 2011 02:12 GMT
#86
Jinro, MVP and MKP are more or less guaranteed.

i think 4th will be Top (as winner of CodeA) and 5th the emporer himself
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DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
February 13 2011 02:12 GMT
#87
Believe the hype!
The swarm is strong within these ones. I'm sure they will show us great games.
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Rabbet
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada404 Posts
February 13 2011 02:13 GMT
#88
Can TLO still play the next TL Open even though he is qualified with points?
RushBoxer!
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
February 13 2011 02:13 GMT
#89
Whoooo go liquid!
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GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
February 13 2011 02:14 GMT
#90
is MVP in this?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 02:14 GMT
#91
I replied before you even edited you goofball.
dofz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway98 Posts
February 13 2011 02:14 GMT
#92
Can't wait for this to get started, insane players! Really hoping ret is going to fight in the top!

You can not wonder how it's going to be playing from korea tho, hopefully the lagg won't be that bad.

Same goes for the foreigners who is currently in Korea for gsl
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pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
February 13 2011 02:15 GMT
#93
WELP

I've got a massive erection
connoisseur
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
February 13 2011 02:16 GMT
#94
On February 13 2011 11:10 FastgunZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 11:06 Highwinds wrote:
On February 13 2011 11:05 FrostShadow wrote:
How can you possibly justify haypro's invite objectively?

Clearly CheckPrime and oGsZenio are superior zergs, just off the top of my head. By FAR better results consistently in sc2.


Why does it matter if they are objective? Its their tournament they can invite who they want. If they invite some 100 bronze player it wouldn't be up to us. Im happy with the choices and you should be too.


You're right they can invite whoever they want, but why should i be happy if they invite lesser quality players? I wish they put the overall quality of the tournament before promoting one of their players that hasn't produced results than can compare with other available zergs. with that said I am still very excited for tsl.


I have no idea why it ever crossed your mind that they weren't going to invite all the Liquid guys. There's nothing to complain about; it was always going to be the case.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
February 13 2011 02:20 GMT
#95
Some Baller Zergs indeed.

Hope FD has a strong showing, he was a bit lackluster in GSl4.

And with the news that he Only practices 3-4 hours a day, makes me think that his weak performance wasn't a fluke.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 13 2011 02:21 GMT
#96
wat...

Fruitdealer?

Really!?

TL should warn viewers/readers about this superb news, I just ruined a good pair of pants D:
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
February 13 2011 02:22 GMT
#97
Omg ... i would watch if these guys were the only ones lol, TSL3 is going to be awesome.
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
February 13 2011 02:23 GMT
#98
FruitDealer and NesTea. MC too.

Can we expect NaDa or BoxeR to show up next week?
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BertiliO
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden134 Posts
February 13 2011 02:24 GMT
#99
why are there more Z invites then there are P?
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
February 13 2011 02:25 GMT
#100
On February 13 2011 11:24 BertiliO wrote:
why are there more Z invites then there are P?


Probably because there are barely any Zs in the tournament so far.

Anyways, regarding the invites, i really think July or even someone like Zenio would have been a better choice than Haypro, but i guess this is TL's tournament.
Cammalleri
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada190 Posts
February 13 2011 02:26 GMT
#101
Dont agree with haypro invites also, there are a lot of better zergs than him, but ofc since its the TSL, every Liquid members should be in to give them a chance to compete, since they couldn't even try to quality while in korea.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
February 13 2011 02:27 GMT
#102
jinro, MVP, marineking, boxer, nada
make it happen
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 02:27 GMT
#103
2 TL members in Korea play Zerg and two of the GSL champs were Z as well. I think that says it all.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
February 13 2011 02:27 GMT
#104
Great lineup, although (and it pains me to say this) I don't think Haypro deserves a spot yet. He hasn't really showed any results as of now and isn't really considered to be one of the tip-top Zergs in either the foreign or Korean scene.

I mean, I can't see any justification in having him over Zenio, MorroW, Dimaga, etc. other than him being a TL member.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
February 13 2011 02:28 GMT
#105
T invites have to be Jinro, MKP, MVP, Nada, and Boxer, right?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:30:19
February 13 2011 02:29 GMT
#106
Okay, I will repeat it once again.

Both Dimaga and Morrow aren`t stationed out of Korea. Besides that, Dimaga is banned from TSL3 for cheating in the last TSL.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
February 13 2011 02:29 GMT
#107
Excellent lineup of zerg players. TSL is going to be awesome.
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
February 13 2011 02:30 GMT
#108
Awesome invites. Pity there weren't enough spots so an invite could be given to Moonglade, but still awesome.
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
February 13 2011 02:30 GMT
#109
Fuuuck yeah, so glad to have such a solid Zerg lineup in the tournament.
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Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
February 13 2011 02:30 GMT
#110
Theres so many better options than HayprO... Well your choice I guess..
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
February 13 2011 02:30 GMT
#111
Having at least 3 of the 4 GSL winners in TSL is pretty ridiculous. Shows just how far TeamLiquid has come as an organization.

Of course it doesn't really matter as Ret's just gonna walk all over them, no problem
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.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
February 13 2011 02:31 GMT
#112
On February 13 2011 11:30 walklightwhat wrote:
Awesome invites. Pity there weren't enough spots so an invite could be given to Moonglade, but still awesome.


Yeah, I'd really like to see him aswell.
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R4iD
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada142 Posts
February 13 2011 02:32 GMT
#113
cant wait this TSL is going to rooock
your either pro or your noob, and thats life
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
February 13 2011 02:32 GMT
#114
I wish we could see some more oGs in terran invites. Inviting zenio would have been pretty cool to build on this Idra vs Zenio. I hope the best progamer in the universe aka Clide is invited as a terran!

Also there are so many terrans in europe and america that have already qualified, i wish more zergs would have been invited.
Meow.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
February 13 2011 02:32 GMT
#115
On February 07 2011 05:25 Kimaker wrote:
I'm guessing;

Zergs: Nestea, Idra, Ret, Haypro, MAYBE Fruitdealer or Kyrix

Terran: Boxer, Nada, MVP, MKP, Jinro.

God I hope I'm right....already one of the sickest tourney rosters ever, it can only get better ^_^


Called that shit. Hope I got the Terrans right too, THIS TOURNEY IS SO FUCKING STACKED!!!!!!
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MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:52:13
February 13 2011 02:33 GMT
#116
Yeah, I'm not feeling the Haypro invite.

Every other invited player is a champion of a major sc2 tournament. I'm sure Haypro has potential, but so do many others.

Genius (Blizzcon)
HuK (MLG Raleigh)
MC (GSL Season 3)
Idra (MLG DC)
Ret (Assembly Winter 2011)
Fruitdealer (GSL Season 1)
Nestea (GSL Season 2)

Haypro (?)

(But it's their tournament, so I guess they can invite whoever they want.)
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
February 13 2011 02:33 GMT
#117
Yeah I'm not sure about Ret and Haypro. Ret can be justified cause of todays assembly, but haypro doesn't have much to show :/ hopefully I'm totally wrong and he wins the whole thing though! Liquid fighting!
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 02:33 GMT
#118
I think it would be foolish not to take free money considering every participant is guaranteed a payout.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
February 13 2011 02:34 GMT
#119
On February 13 2011 11:32 ffz wrote:
I wish we could see some more oGs in terran invites. Inviting zenio would have been pretty cool to build on this Idra vs Zenio. I hope the best progamer in the universe aka Clide is invited as a terran!

Also there are so many terrans in europe and america that have already qualified, i wish more zergs would have been invited.


Possibly NaDa, or TheSTC could be invited for oGs.
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
February 13 2011 02:34 GMT
#120
If MVP is invited (and agrees to play), aswell as MKP, this will easily be the most awesome tournament in history!
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
FILM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States663 Posts
February 13 2011 02:37 GMT
#121
Lol, this is going to trump the GSL so easily.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
February 13 2011 02:37 GMT
#122
On February 13 2011 11:33 Gentleman7 wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure about Ret and Haypro. Ret can be justified cause of todays assembly, but haypro doesn't have much to show :/ hopefully I'm totally wrong and he wins the whole thing though! Liquid fighting!


It makes perfect sense to invite TL players in a TL event.

And honnestly, Haypro didn't had a lot of occasions to prove himself in tournaments.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11133 Posts
February 13 2011 02:41 GMT
#123
Although Haypro's invitation is a bit iffy, he is a VERY strong macro Zerg with macro abilities rivaling that of Ret himself. He may not have won many major competitions, though he is still a strong contender as long as he doesn't get all-ined. However, I do have a feeling that his inclusion probably was influenced by being on Team Liquid, though I think he would've done quite well in the official qualifiers.

Inviting Fruitdealer and Nestea is the absolute best announcement that I've seen today. TSL is shaping up to be the international Olympics of SC2 with the best of Korea and the rest of the world coming together to play what could be some of the most epic games in SC2 thus far, especially with the possible inclusion of the GSTL maps.

Mondragon vs Fruitdealer? White-Ra vs Nestea? These fanboy wet dreams are now possible.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
February 13 2011 02:44 GMT
#124
This is going to be a crazy sick tourny. Props to Teamliquid for hosting this amazing tournament.
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
February 13 2011 02:44 GMT
#125
Literally the best possible zerg invites! great choice <333
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
February 13 2011 02:46 GMT
#126
On February 13 2011 11:33 MrSexington wrote:
edit: Also, while people are throwing out the Terran names... I don't think anyone's brought up Naama's name.

Only people on Asian servers are eligible for invites.
defuzas
Profile Joined July 2009
248 Posts
February 13 2011 02:46 GMT
#127
oh wow, i dont even have any words. this is gonna be epic
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
February 13 2011 02:46 GMT
#128
Excited for the invites. Hope Haypro does well to prove all the naysayers wrong. Definitely hope a Z wins!
Life is Good.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
February 13 2011 02:46 GMT
#129
On February 13 2011 11:46 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 11:33 MrSexington wrote:
edit: Also, while people are throwing out the Terran names... I don't think anyone's brought up Naama's name.

Only people on Asian servers are eligible for invites.


(Oops. Of course, you're right. My mistake.)
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
February 13 2011 02:46 GMT
#130
TSL FTW, Cannot wait for this omgggg, got nerd chills lol
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:49:51
February 13 2011 02:47 GMT
#131
Haypro has been all but nonexistent outside of EU, so here's to a big splash in the international scene. A more objective choice would be to invite a top-tier Zerg player with a different style, not just Idra-mini, but it's TL's competition I guess.....

You can predict the TL members are auto-invited, because none of them have even tried to qualify, which means they're getting invites. So Jinro is definitely getting invited, and 4 other terrans.

I predict:

#1 MVP
#2 MKP
#3 Jinro
#4 Nada
#5 Boxer
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
February 13 2011 02:50 GMT
#132
Great invites!
As for the terran invites I'm hoping for Jinro, MVP, MKP, NaDa, Boxer.
ineedadrink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States108 Posts
February 13 2011 02:50 GMT
#133
Nice, it really makes sense for the top Koreans to accept invites to foreign tournaments if you think about it, they really don't have as many chances to make money/prove themselves (Other than GSL of course) as the other regions.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 13 2011 02:51 GMT
#134
amazing! i think im gonna watch this TSL
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
February 13 2011 02:52 GMT
#135
This is going to be totally awesome. If Terrans include Jinro and MVP I will be very happy.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
February 13 2011 02:54 GMT
#136
On February 13 2011 11:47 StyLeD wrote:
Haypro has been all but nonexistent outside of EU, so here's to a big splash in the international scene. A more objective choice would be to invite a top-tier Zerg player with a different style, not just Idra-mini, but it's TL's competition I guess.....

You can predict the TL members are auto-invited, because none of them have even tried to qualify, which means they're getting invites. So Jinro is definitely getting invited, and 4 other terrans.

I predict:

#1 MVP
#2 MKP
#3 Jinro
#4 Nada
#5 Boxer


To be fair for Jinro, he not only has gone far in GSL two times in a row, but he also won MLG Dallas. He's also a champion.
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
February 13 2011 02:55 GMT
#137
FUCK YEAH? NESTEA? FRUIT DEALER? IDRA? Omg, this tournament is going to be fucking awesome
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
February 13 2011 03:02 GMT
#138
YES TSL is going to be sooooo awesome. Also im not really sure about HayprO, cause theres also some sick Zergs like MorroW or DIMAGA. Anyway, cant be bad pick and will be interesting to see how well he will do in tournament. GL!
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
February 13 2011 03:05 GMT
#139
So sick!!!
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 13 2011 03:06 GMT
#140
On February 13 2011 11:25 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 11:24 BertiliO wrote:
why are there more Z invites then there are P?


Probably because there are barely any Zs in the tournament so far.

Anyways, regarding the invites, i really think July or even someone like Zenio would have been a better choice than Haypro, but i guess this is TL's tournament.


What no Zelniq?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
February 13 2011 03:06 GMT
#141
Guys stop saying morrow and dimaga, morrow and still qualify and DIMAGA is BANNED from TSL3! So I dont think TL will invite someone who CHEATED in tsl2.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=107745
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
February 13 2011 03:06 GMT
#142
If the emperor comes in this tourney and graces us with his presence, we should show full humility and make encouraging pictures and comments for him. I'll even dedicate a whole thread if he is invited and confirmed.

Anyways, I hope the terran invites are strong.
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
Fweedman
Profile Joined July 2010
United States25 Posts
February 13 2011 03:06 GMT
#143
On February 13 2011 12:02 TR wrote:
YES TSL is going to be sooooo awesome. Also im not really sure about HayprO, cause theres also some sick Zergs like MorroW or DIMAGA. Anyway, cant be bad pick and will be interesting to see how well he will do in tournament. GL!


Only people from KR server are invited because they can't play TL Opens due to lag. Also, Dimaga can't play in TSL3.
Tef
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden443 Posts
February 13 2011 03:07 GMT
#144
On February 13 2011 11:33 MrSexington wrote:
Yeah, I'm not feeling the Haypro invite.

Every other invited player is a champion of a major sc2 tournament. I'm sure Haypro has potential, but so do many others.

Genius (Blizzcon)
HuK (MLG Raleigh)
MC (GSL Season 3)
Idra (MLG DC)
Ret (Assembly Winter 2011)
Fruitdealer (GSL Season 1)
Nestea (GSL Season 2)

Haypro (?)

(But it's their tournament, so I guess they can invite whoever they want.)


Please read the OP before posting. It clearly states what he has acheived there. Haypro has been winning team league matches for TL and he qualified for a GSL where he got beaten by BitByBit.Prime. He also has a few other top places in European tournaments. And he is a TL player.

Haypro hwaiting!
Dont fuck up, dont fuck yourself
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
February 13 2011 03:08 GMT
#145
prepare for the show.....of a life time
Do you really want chat rooms?
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
February 13 2011 03:11 GMT
#146
Yay EG.IDRA!
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 03:12:41
February 13 2011 03:12 GMT
#147
Where has Sen been for the past few weeks?
Flash: "Why am I so good?" *sob sob*
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
February 13 2011 03:13 GMT
#148
On February 13 2011 12:12 Incanus wrote:
Where has Sen been for the past few weeks?


TSL2 3rd place, thus seeded.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TSL_3
Animostas
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States568 Posts
February 13 2011 03:16 GMT
#149
This tournament is going to be friggin' amazing.

I can't say I'm very surprised by the invitees judging by what I got to see with Protoss ones, but I am quite pleased
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 03:32:19
February 13 2011 03:17 GMT
#150
On February 13 2011 12:07 Tef wrote:
Please read the OP before posting. It clearly states what he has acheived there. Haypro has been winning team league matches for TL and he qualified for a GSL where he got beaten by BitByBit.Prime. He also has a few other top places in European tournaments. And he is a TL player.

Haypro hwaiting!


edit: I don't know why I let trolls pull me in some times. Deleted.
The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
February 13 2011 03:18 GMT
#151
5 Terrans then?

I hope for:
Jinro
BoxeR
MarineKing
MVP
Nada
Boxer, White-Ra, Grubby, Flash fighting!
Tef
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden443 Posts
February 13 2011 03:20 GMT
#152
On February 13 2011 12:17 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 12:07 Tef wrote:
Please read the OP before posting. It clearly states what he has acheived there. Haypro has been winning team league matches for TL and he qualified for a GSL where he got beaten by BitByBit.Prime. He also has a few other top places in European tournaments. And he is a TL player.

Haypro hwaiting!


I did read the OP before posting.

Team Leagues are not individual leagues, many (many) other people have qualified for the round of 64 in the GSL, and does "top places" include #1? And I made sure to note that Team Liquid can invite whoever they want to invite. It's their tournament.

You should take your own advice and read what I've posted before you replied. You either didn't or just chose to ignore it. Stop assuming.


So why did you put a (?) on his achievements?
Dont fuck up, dont fuck yourself
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
February 13 2011 03:20 GMT
#153
If you base your decision purely on results, then one might be skeptical about Haypro. But if you've seen his recent games, then you know he truly deserves an invite. He's a diamond in the rough, and I have a feeling he'll surprise us this tournament.

3 GSL champions in this tournament so far... a gathering of the world's finest, not just 1 nation's... dare I say it?... TSL is going to be the toughest tournament in SC2 history.
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 13 2011 03:21 GMT
#154
This tourney is looking outrageous. What's cool is that (for the first time??) all of the European and American gosus will have a shot at the Korean/GSL giants. HYPE!

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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
February 13 2011 03:24 GMT
#155
inb4 MVP, jinro and MKP for terran invitations.

User was warned for this post
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Stamper
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany148 Posts
February 13 2011 03:25 GMT
#156
On February 13 2011 12:18 The_Piper42 wrote:
5 Terrans then?

I hope for:
Jinro
BoxeR
MarineKing
MVP
Nada

Would love to see that. But concerning what they've shown in SC2 lately BoxeR wouldnt be first choice. Unfortunately. oGsTOP would be more justified. But I want to see BoxeR anyways
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
February 13 2011 03:26 GMT
#157
3 protoss
4 zerg
and 6 terrans?
Nukm_
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany104 Posts
February 13 2011 03:27 GMT
#158
am i the only one who is glad that haypro was invited? he is a great player but being in korea he does not get as many chances to shines as other get here in eu/na... hope he does well
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
February 13 2011 03:28 GMT
#159
fuck I cant wait. Ive actually never seen nestea or fruitdealer in a tournament!
precisioNist
Profile Joined November 2010
Philippines18 Posts
February 13 2011 03:30 GMT
#160
wow!! so excited... !! My predictions for the 5 Terran Spots are:

Liquid Jinro
MarineKing.Prime.WE
IMMvp
SlayersBoxeR
oGsNada

If that happens, this would be the most exciting SC2 Tournament yet!
"For the Swarm..."
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria888 Posts
February 13 2011 03:34 GMT
#161
Awesome Zerg invites, so excited to see NesTea in a foreign tournament for the first time. The only thing that can make the TSL complete is if the 5 Terran invites are Jinro, MVP, MKP, Nada and BoxeR.
Livin' this life like it was written.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 13 2011 03:34 GMT
#162
On February 13 2011 12:26 DarkRise wrote:
3 protoss
4 zerg
and 6 terrans?


Really dude? Read the OP again.
Moderator
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 03:40:12
February 13 2011 03:36 GMT
#163
I just realized they were saving the terran lineup for last because Boxer is going to play in the TSL o.O

About the Haypro invite, you guys wouldn't have "felt" the jinro invite (pre-assumption) a couple months ago either. If Haypro is on Liquid, the guy is good. Plus, give him some credit, he plays zerg, lol
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
February 13 2011 03:36 GMT
#164
Jinro marineking IMMVP are almost lock to get invited so there is 2 spot open for people to guess who.
I would like to see loner in the t invites because you guys ban taiwan/chinese players from qualifying. This will make it a true world tournament.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
DigitalisDestructi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States488 Posts
February 13 2011 03:36 GMT
#165
IdrA, HayprO, Ret, FruitDealer, and NesTea!? Unpredictable! This thing is going to rock some serious asses. With decent maps, of course...
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FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
February 13 2011 03:37 GMT
#166
These Zerg invites were prolly the easiest to call, I wa one hundred percent right about them, would have liked to see MoonGlade rather than Haypro but still looking good
KT Flash// WhiteRa/Scarlett/Naniwa/MC/Huk/Nony
Baerinho
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany257 Posts
February 13 2011 03:38 GMT
#167
its funny how sooooo many people dont understand how the invites work. "bla hhaypro is not korean, should have qualified etc". Invites are for people LIVING in korea, not being korean. And sure Liquid invites its own players living over there.
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 13 2011 03:45 GMT
#168
I'm getting nerd chills thinking about any of these ZvZ's.

So let's see...Terran invites will be...Jinro, MVP, MKP, Boxer, Nada.

This tournament is going to be so fucking amazing.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
February 13 2011 03:46 GMT
#169
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren


Korean invite dude. its kinda hard for koreans to play in the TL open with that kind of lag
Team[AoV]
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
February 13 2011 03:46 GMT
#170
I was already excited before I even got to invites 4 and 5. Seriously amazing, I went nuts. So pumped for TSL.... and Terran invites..... AND TSSSLLLLL
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
February 13 2011 03:47 GMT
#171
Wow this does not fail to deliver at all, has just made me all the more pumped! :D
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Baerinho
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany257 Posts
February 13 2011 03:50 GMT
#172
On February 13 2011 12:36 lazyfeet wrote:
Jinro marineking IMMVP are almost lock to get invited so there is 2 spot open for people to guess who.
I would like to see loner in the t invites because you guys ban taiwan/chinese players from qualifying. This will make it a true world tournament.



i agree 100%

Since all invites so far have been either liquidians or ABSOLUTE big name in korea, and seeing the TL - ogs relations, i would be pretty sure the 4th terran will be Nada, and the 5th, even tho not up there in the results, but certainly in fame would be Boxer.

I predicted all Zergs right, so i´ll go out on a limb and predict mvp, marineking, Jinro, Nada and Boxer
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
February 13 2011 03:51 GMT
#173
Couldn't have gotten a better zerg lineup! IdrA and Ret fightinnnggggg!!!!
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
Weaponx3
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada232 Posts
February 13 2011 03:56 GMT
#174
Have all these players accepted the invites is there confirmation that they will play in tsl?>
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
February 13 2011 03:57 GMT
#175
On February 13 2011 12:56 Weaponx3 wrote:
Have all these players accepted the invites is there confirmation that they will play in tsl?>


Yes all of them are confirmed
Moderatorgold coin
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
February 13 2011 03:58 GMT
#176
So everyone is pretty much predicting the same people I am for the Terran spots.
This tournament is going to be amazing.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
SayfT
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia298 Posts
February 13 2011 04:04 GMT
#177
MVP, TLO, JINRO, BOXER, NADA is my guess for Terran invite
For no man will ever turn homewards from beyond Vega to greet again those he knew and loved on Earth
Rialz
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil177 Posts
February 13 2011 04:05 GMT
#178
This is going to be SOOOO GOOD! LIQUID FIGHTING!
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
February 13 2011 04:08 GMT
#179
cool cool. sounds like its gonna be a great tournament!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Nephrite
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia202 Posts
February 13 2011 04:09 GMT
#180
The only thing that could make this tournament more awesome if the Terran invites happened to be Jinro, Boxer, Nada, MKP and MVP.
T: MVP, Polt, MKP, Boxer... P: Hero, MC, Inca , VINES... Z: Coca, DRG, Zenio, Leenock
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 13 2011 04:15 GMT
#181
On February 13 2011 12:27 Nukm_ wrote:
am i the only one who is glad that haypro was invited? he is a great player but being in korea he does not get as many chances to shines as other get here in eu/na... hope he does well


I'm glad too. I think worst case scenario he'll do okay.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
February 13 2011 04:19 GMT
#182
NesTea+FruitDealer??? wow

although this tournament will get unbelievably sick if they actually get slayersboxer
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
February 13 2011 04:24 GMT
#183
This tournament is going to be sick. Fruitdealer and Nestea? WOW
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 13 2011 04:27 GMT
#184
On February 13 2011 13:04 Boneyard.au wrote:
MVP, TLO, JINRO, BOXER, NADA is my guess for Terran invite


I think TLO will already qualify with his point total.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
February 13 2011 04:27 GMT
#185
Shit just got real. I would've loved to see either morrow or moonglade over hayder but he needs some justice for his skills
Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
February 13 2011 04:29 GMT
#186
TSL is gonna be just as good as GSL if not better games.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
February 13 2011 04:35 GMT
#187
5/5.

Fantastic invites. I'm particularly looking forward to Haypro showing us what he can do!

This TSL may well be as good as the previous one!
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
February 13 2011 04:40 GMT
#188
Huge players. Gonna be quite the show
Always smile~
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#189
Sweet, the 3 best zergs in the world imo. Add in ret who just wrecked face in assembly, and haypro, who has made ro64 gsl and is in code a, this tournie is gonna be fucking awesome, just waiting on jinro, mvp, mkp, nada and CLIIIIIIIIIDE to be invited for the terrans lol.
Apollonius
Profile Joined December 2010
70 Posts
February 13 2011 04:48 GMT
#190
The main reason I look forward to this is that we get to see how exactly the international gosus compare with the Korean GSL champs - I'm sure in SC2, the gap, if any, is not so large. After all, Jinro isn't the only super-gosu outside of Korea

This is going to be awesome. I don't know what match will excite me most. If GSTL maps are used ... (X100 epic).
Nicodemusher
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
February 13 2011 04:52 GMT
#191
This is going to be so amazingly exciting. I can't wait to see how well the qualifiers stack up against the invitees.
Eyx
Profile Joined December 2010
England165 Posts
February 13 2011 04:53 GMT
#192
Are the asian invites going to be playing from korea? Because if they are they are going to be at a serious disadvantage. We got a taste of the problems when MC lost to TOP because of latentcy on force fields.
Fitzhunt1
Profile Joined February 2010
United States169 Posts
February 13 2011 04:54 GMT
#193
man do I hope for MVP and MarineKing for the Terran invites!
Blizzcon exclusive no donuts.
gH-Nitrous
Profile Joined May 2005
Australia49 Posts
February 13 2011 04:57 GMT
#194
haypro has done shit all. Sorry to be brutally honest. JULY ZERG OMFG GET HIM IN WTF HAYPRO ?

User was temp banned for this post.
mooooooooo
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
February 13 2011 04:59 GMT
#195
Great, im glad we have some top korean zergs aswell
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
iamamish
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
February 13 2011 05:07 GMT
#196
AHHHHHHHH! THIS IS SOOOO AWESOME!!!
dont worry...thats halo- huk
IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
February 13 2011 05:07 GMT
#197
Very very solid invites for all of the TSL Invites. Cross my finger on fruitdealer playing standard >_<
I'm not a nub, I'm gosu of tomorrow
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 13 2011 05:10 GMT
#198
I wonder if we will have all 4 gsl champs in the TSL... that would be amazing, not to say that it isn't already, just more so.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
geez
Profile Joined September 2010
United States29 Posts
February 13 2011 05:16 GMT
#199
Really great invites to represent the zerg, couldn't agree more with idra/ret/nestea/FD. Kinda confused about the haypro invite since he hasn't really accomplished anything yet, but I guess it doesn't hurt to have him in there since other Korean zerg players don't really stand out at all. Maybe this will be his breakout event!
znowstorm
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia281 Posts
February 13 2011 05:17 GMT
#200
Wow thats awesome. Terrans - Jinro, MVP, MKP, TOP, BratOK lets go!
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
February 13 2011 05:19 GMT
#201
What an awesome lineup. I'm completely stoked for this tournament. Can't wait to see the Terran invites.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 13 2011 05:24 GMT
#202
fucking sweet. essentially the best 5 zergs in the world. Thanks TSL3!!! :D
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
February 13 2011 05:39 GMT
#203
At least there are zergs now :D
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 13 2011 05:41 GMT
#204
Exactly the lineup I was hoping for, <3 TL.

Now if we can only get MVP, MKP, Jinro, Boxer and Nada.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
February 13 2011 05:44 GMT
#205
Woooot ?!?! :D

OMG !
TL is the best !
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 13 2011 05:51 GMT
#206
On February 13 2011 11:02 StarStruck wrote:
No there are only 13 invites.

It`s okay. I wish MoonGlade was invited too, but sadly he is not. ;I


Oh shit, back on page 4 i thought it was 14 invites, so in that case I can understand why they left Moonglade out (they gotta pick their own players so yeah).

The Terrans in my opinion will be

Boxer
Nada
MKP
MVP
Jinro
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Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 06:25:41
February 13 2011 06:12 GMT
#207
Haypro in no way shape or form belongs among the other selections aside from the fact he is in teamliquid. I realize this is the TL forums but you can liquipedia his accomplishments compared to the others and easily see this. Getting beaten by BitByBitPrime is certainly not something to be proud of. I am not going to say he is bad or anything like that he may be one of the best zergs in the world but just based on his prior accomplishments there is no way he deserves this invite except for TL favoring their own players which I guess is fine since it is their tourney after all, just be honest about it though.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
February 13 2011 06:13 GMT
#208
fuck yesss, NestTea and FD is all I want!!!
kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
February 13 2011 06:14 GMT
#209
I'm sorry but I just don't understand Haypro. There are so many other deserving Korean Zergs out there. Its hard to not see his invite as patronage. Ret Huk Jinro have all earned their invites with tournament results. It just doesn't feel right that TLO has to qualify via points just because he's in Europe and Haypro is in Korea. How do you put Haypro ahead of the likes of JulyZerg, ogsZenio, and CheckPrime? Or even junwi? Heck I would put Artosis above him, even though he's switched to protoss.

Was Moonglade even considered? Or has he already qualified?
vyro
Profile Joined October 2008
United States22 Posts
February 13 2011 06:16 GMT
#210
tsl too imba. fuck yesss
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
February 13 2011 06:16 GMT
#211
Two GSL champions! Thats ridiculous/amazing! I'm so stoked.
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
February 13 2011 06:29 GMT
#212
Dear TL,
You are organising what has to be the best tournament in SC2 history, infact this will be remembered for a long time. This beats every GSL, and GOM knows it.
Pretty much, to sum it up, you are FUCKING EPIC!!!!!!
You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
February 13 2011 06:32 GMT
#213
Like bunches of others have predicted, I'm also thinking the Ts will be Jinro, IMMvp, Foxer, Nada, and Boxer.

Holy shit....this seems pretty objectively the biggest international tournament ever...!!!!
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
precisioNist
Profile Joined November 2010
Philippines18 Posts
February 13 2011 06:33 GMT
#214
ST_July(zerg) would've been awesome too.. TSL.Clide and ST_Bomber shouldn't be counted out for Terran, although I doubt they'll be invited...
"For the Swarm..."
Tsuycc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada269 Posts
February 13 2011 06:43 GMT
#215
IMMVP if invited will def play ro8
[Hoping spider mines are brought back in SC2] // MarineKing // Leta // Polt | Terran Pride "my girlfriend is the medivac" -Rain
Fasterfood
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 06:46:31
February 13 2011 06:45 GMT
#216
Jinro, Boxer, Nada, MVP, MarineKing

A guy can dream can't he?

edit: thinking a bit more, I'd be ok with MarineKing not making getting an invite. I donno who my 5th would be off the top of my head.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
February 13 2011 06:47 GMT
#217
Nice
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wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
February 13 2011 06:58 GMT
#218
all the stars
slim pickens
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 13 2011 07:11 GMT
#219
After the 3 protoss invites ended up being Huk, Genius & MC, I figured Idra + Ret & Haypro were a given. Then it was hoping they got Nestea or Fruitdealer to join up as well. Wasn't expecting both, but I'm really happy about that.

So, with 5 Terrans coming, could they possibly pull off the major coup and get MVP, MKP, Boxer & Nada? It's very possible some of them might not want to/don't have time, so there's still a solid list of other possibilities (Top, Byun, Ensnare, Maka, Loner, Bomber) that would be awesome to see. But they've got the best Protoss in the world right now (MC), 2 of the other strongest (Genius & Huk) and the 3 top zergs in the world coming to this already. TSL 3 is going to be off the charts!
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
February 13 2011 07:12 GMT
#220
omg this is so awesome

i didnt think the TSL would be this big so awesome!!
Try another route paperboy.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
February 13 2011 07:18 GMT
#221
HOLY BALLZ!!!!
As a Zerg players i am feeling soooo good right now!!!!
I have a man crush on all of these guys, and cannot wait to watch them play
HYPE HYPE HYPE!!!!
I love you TL for this so much!
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
February 13 2011 07:22 GMT
#222
IdrA
Ret
Haypro
FruitDealer
Nestea

its over =(, ITS OVER!!!

LOL JK but omg so many invites, the best invites too!
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
February 13 2011 07:33 GMT
#223
Can't wait to see how foreigners stack up to Fruit Dealer and Nestea ... Especially Nestea. What a beast.

eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 13 2011 07:36 GMT
#224
O_____________O

These are exactly the five zerg players that I would want to be invited. This is awesome. Holy fuck TSL is going to be huuge.
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
February 13 2011 07:38 GMT
#225
Couldn't agree more with the picks.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
February 13 2011 07:44 GMT
#226
This is sooooo insane, this tournament is shaping up to be a serious rival to gom, at least in terms of the caliber of the players.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 07:53:33
February 13 2011 07:49 GMT
#227
i see players get warned because they speak against haypros vote but i also have to say somethings i hope no one missunderstand that

ofc i understand the invite of haypro as he is in TL and it is a TL event, also he is one of the best foreign Zergs and you not want to invite more then 5 zerg players so this 5 seems the most logic choise, but i REALLY miss moonglade.

after he beat sen loner etc to qualify for iem and was also invited for GSL i would have loved to see him play even more then haypro.

well perhaps next tsl
i really hope haypro doing well and everyone is fine after the first games with the picks, that would be the best thing that could happen

ps: this is nothing against haypro i just think that moonglade is rly missing in this tournamend
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
February 13 2011 07:55 GMT
#228
On February 13 2011 16:49 CoR wrote:
i see players get warned because they speak against haypros vote but i also have to say somethings i hope no one missunderstand that

ofc i understand the invite of haypro as he is in TL and it is a TL event, also he is one of the best foreign Zergs and you not want to invite more then 5 zerg players so this 5 seems the most logic choise, but i REALLY miss moonglade.

after he beat sen loner etc to qualify for iem and was also invited for GSL i would have loved to see him play even more then haypro.

well perhaps next tsl
i really hope haypro doing well and everyone is fine after the first games with the picks, that would be the best thing that could happen

ps: this is nothing against haypro i just think that moonglade is rly missing in this tournamend

Just for clarity, there's nothing wrong with saying you wish someone else got invited, or even making a case for why someone else should have been invited. The problem is people being disrespectful with no basis... that's not allowed.
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Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
February 13 2011 07:56 GMT
#229
Lol NesTea Lol! You are just gonna give him a free win, even thought he will provide some great games. I might as well watch TSL after all
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
February 13 2011 08:00 GMT
#230
I kinda expected this when InControl talked about the invites in SOTG, but its awesome to see this come true.

Terran invite preditions: Mvp, MKP, Jinro, Nada, Boxer

God I just jizzed in my pants dreaming about this
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 08:07:16
February 13 2011 08:06 GMT
#231
On February 13 2011 16:55 Chill wrote:
Just for clarity, there's nothing wrong with saying you wish someone else got invited, or even making a case for why someone else should have been invited. The problem is people being disrespectful with no basis... that's not allowed.



ah good because i like the invites ^^ overall

damn tsl will be such a great tournament that i think this could even > GSL march (and gsl march will be epic with 6 foreigns ^^)

ok my guess for the terran invites now are hard xD jinro MVP ofc but then ... nada ? boxer ? well at least i bet my money it wont be some of artosis hated A class gamers xD

oh man how cool would it be to have TheSCT but it wont be possible ...

hm Bomber ? St.Bomber would be great as well as MKP
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Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
February 13 2011 08:06 GMT
#232
This is going to be LEGEND... I hope none of you are lactose intolerant cause the next word is DAIRY.

Though odds are once the Terran invites are made public, there will be no more terms to described the sheer awesomeness that will come from this tournament.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
February 13 2011 08:08 GMT
#233
Nooooooooo i wanted to watch July , there should have been 1 more zerg invite ;( . Oh well i guess i'm going to be cheering for Ret or some terran player .
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 13 2011 08:10 GMT
#234
YES NESTEA!!! :D this TSL IS GOING TO BE FREAKING EPIC! ^_^
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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
February 13 2011 08:11 GMT
#235
I think we can all agree MVP and MKP will be invited, and Jinro will participate. But Nada and Boxer aren't necessarily shoo-ins except based on fame and that they are still Code S. There are many a Terran player who might be more deserving based on most recent GSL performance. ZenexByun, ST_Bomber, oGs.Ensnare and oGs.TOP looked particularly strong recently. And there's always Clide . I'm still hopeful to see at least Nada or Boxer, but if MVP or MKP don't attend, there's more names to consider.
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 08:23:12
February 13 2011 08:21 GMT
#236
On February 13 2011 17:11 Ansinjunger wrote:
I think we can all agree MVP and MKP will be invited, and Jinro will participate. But Nada and Boxer aren't necessarily shoo-ins except based on fame and that they are still Code S. There are many a Terran player who might be more deserving based on most recent GSL performance. ZenexByun, ST_Bomber, oGs.Ensnare and oGs.TOP looked particularly strong recently. And there's always Clide . I'm still hopeful to see at least Nada or Boxer, but if MVP or MKP don't attend, there's more names to consider.


Agreed. MKP/MVP/Jinro are basically guarantees, the other 2 are up for grabs IMO. Even though I see one of them being boxer, I'd prefer the other one to be someone who isn't as known in GSL, like Bomber, as the other guys have already had their tastes in code A/S.

edit* I love nada as much as the next guy (on a mechanical level) however his decision making is questionable at times.
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
February 13 2011 08:26 GMT
#237
OMG, seriously speaking, this TSL is slowly developing into an event that is certainly going to blow our minds away, but is also going to change the face of international starcraft 2 competition. I mean GSL does create an international platform, however, its not always feasible for players to go to Korea. Vice-versa its not feasible for all the Korean players to play for the TSL, but the TSL is like the initiative from the foreigner scene. These invites really blew my mind, more so than the protoss invites :D.
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AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 08:29:02
February 13 2011 08:27 GMT
#238
meh, haypro... i think zenio would have been a better invite to be honest, or even moonglade
Poststrata
Profile Joined December 2010
United States110 Posts
February 13 2011 08:30 GMT
#239
Oh. My. Overmind.... at zerg invites. I can't wait for this, this TSL will be amazing! Almost ALL of my favorite zergs are in here. (only catz missing) This is gonna be intense, I have a feeling a zerg will be coming out on top... only if some toss comes out with sweet mothership play will a toss come out on top but um, yeah... for the swarm... and all that jazz
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dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
February 13 2011 08:30 GMT
#240
is it possible theyd invite:

oGs.TheSTC???

id love that :D
...
Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
February 13 2011 08:37 GMT
#241
I doubt performance was the only factor in these selections. They probably considered the appeal of the players as well. Who do the fans really want to see? Do second tier Korean Zergs like Zenio, Check, or July have as much appeal to the fans as HayprO? Maybe July due to his SC:BW career, but Zenio and Check are not even close. July hasn't received the fame he got in SC:BW, so he's just another player to SC2 fans who haven't watched much SC:BW (like myself). So, I think HayprO is a better invite than the Korean Zergs.

mOOnGLaDe, on the other hand, would probably be a better choice than HayprO. No one is really close to mOOnGLaDe's level in Oceania and his win over Loner shows he can compete with one of the top Asian players. He would bring a lot of interest to the TSL from Oceania and Southeast Asia. But, we haven't seen him compete a whole lot outside of his region. I think this would have been the perfect event to see how he stacks up with the best in the world.

I don't think HayprO is a bad choice, but mOOnGLaDe would've been a better one.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
February 13 2011 08:37 GMT
#242
4 of the 5 best zergs in the world right here imo very nice, tsl3 is going to be absolutely crazy.
whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
February 13 2011 08:45 GMT
#243
IM_MVP
SLAYERS_BOXER
PRIME_MARINEKING
PRIME_MAKA
ST_RAINBOW

I hope deez guys get invited. Obviously Jinro will be invited.. But i'm allowed to have hope.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
February 13 2011 08:46 GMT
#244
If haypro read this thread and saw all of you morons going 'OMG Y HAYPRO INWAIT SO BIAS' how do you think he'd feel? He's an amazing player that has had a bad luck streak. Jinro didnt do anything before winning that MLG for a long time, look at him now. I'd watch haypro over zenio or check any day of the week
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whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 08:48:44
February 13 2011 08:47 GMT
#245
On February 13 2011 17:37 Hoju wrote:
I doubt performance was the only factor in these selections. They probably considered the appeal of the players as well. Who do the fans really want to see? Do second tier Korean Zergs like Zenio, Check, or July have as much appeal to the fans as HayprO? Maybe July due to his SC:BW career, but Zenio and Check are not even close. July hasn't received the fame he got in SC:BW, so he's just another player to SC2 fans who haven't watched much SC:BW (like myself). So, I think HayprO is a better invite than the Korean Zergs.

mOOnGLaDe, on the other hand, would probably be a better choice than HayprO. No one is really close to mOOnGLaDe's level in Oceania and his win over Loner shows he can compete with one of the top Asian players. He would bring a lot of interest to the TSL from Oceania and Southeast Asia. But, we haven't seen him compete a whole lot outside of his region. I think this would have been the perfect event to see how he stacks up with the best in the world.

I don't think HayprO is a bad choice, but mOOnGLaDe would've been a better one.


I think Haypro is a good choice. They should invite glade aswell.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
February 13 2011 08:59 GMT
#246
Wow you got ALL of the best zergs.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
February 13 2011 09:00 GMT
#247
Whaaaat?! BOTH zerg champions? :D Only one missing is mOOnGlaDe!
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
February 13 2011 09:02 GMT
#248
Glad to see all the foreigners!
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 13 2011 09:09 GMT
#249
On February 13 2011 17:21 Vorlik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 17:11 Ansinjunger wrote:
I think we can all agree MVP and MKP will be invited, and Jinro will participate. But Nada and Boxer aren't necessarily shoo-ins except based on fame and that they are still Code S. There are many a Terran player who might be more deserving based on most recent GSL performance. ZenexByun, ST_Bomber, oGs.Ensnare and oGs.TOP looked particularly strong recently. And there's always Clide . I'm still hopeful to see at least Nada or Boxer, but if MVP or MKP don't attend, there's more names to consider.


Agreed. MKP/MVP/Jinro are basically guarantees, the other 2 are up for grabs IMO. Even though I see one of them being boxer, I'd prefer the other one to be someone who isn't as known in GSL, like Bomber, as the other guys have already had their tastes in code A/S.

edit* I love nada as much as the next guy (on a mechanical level) however his decision making is questionable at times.


While there are, likely, better Terrans than Boxer & Nada out there... think about this. This is a Team Liquid event. If they can possibly get one or both, they're going to and they should. The site is, for all practical purposes, the result of the eSports industry those two helped build. If they can get them for a tournament, they should. If you want to talk about buzz/good return for their sponsors, they really, really should. This place will explode if they get both, almost ensuring a large viewing audience for the rounds. (Aside from what should be really awesome play all around)
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
February 13 2011 09:18 GMT
#250
Lets make a guess for the terrans:

Jinro (nobrainer)
Nada (oGs player, has connections)
Boxer (was probally invited, not sure if accepted, he has to run a team after all)
Foxer (finalist of GSL and really fucking good player)
MvP (Probally best terran to date atm)
who else maybe?
TOP?
Idk, any of the oGs / TSL / IM guys seems willing to come to it.
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Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 09:26:12
February 13 2011 09:23 GMT
#251
Jinro
MVP
BoxeR
NaDa
MarineKing

Off Topic: Shouldn't it be 'Invitees'? Is there even a word like that, dunno, but it sounds better to me :D
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
February 13 2011 09:28 GMT
#252
TSL is looking better and better every day!
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
February 13 2011 09:32 GMT
#253
On February 13 2011 17:46 TheAntZ wrote:
If haypro read this thread and saw all of you morons going 'OMG Y HAYPRO INWAIT SO BIAS' how do you think he'd feel? He's an amazing player that has had a bad luck streak. Jinro didnt do anything before winning that MLG for a long time, look at him now. I'd watch haypro over zenio or check any day of the week
quit bitchin

thats your opinion, as for Jinro he hadn't had many had many opportunities to prove himself when he went to korea... it can be a bit random trying to qualify for GSL, a hard bracket or very cheesy opponents can make it difficult to qualify since there are no seeds and it is single elimination

you can't just call everyone a whining moron just because you don't like their opinions, imo moonglade would have been a better invite than haypro, as for how he'd feel if he read it i'd think he should become more motivated and prove us wrong by showing great games
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
February 13 2011 09:36 GMT
#254
On February 13 2011 18:32 AnotherEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 17:46 TheAntZ wrote:
If haypro read this thread and saw all of you morons going 'OMG Y HAYPRO INWAIT SO BIAS' how do you think he'd feel? He's an amazing player that has had a bad luck streak. Jinro didnt do anything before winning that MLG for a long time, look at him now. I'd watch haypro over zenio or check any day of the week
quit bitchin

thats your opinion, as for Jinro he hadn't had many had many opportunities to prove himself when he went to korea... it can be a bit random trying to qualify for GSL, a hard bracket or very cheesy opponents can make it difficult to qualify since there are no seeds and it is single elimination


This is ironic given Haypro has actually won or placed well in SC2 tournaments outside of Korea (Jinro only won MLG) and was cheesed out of GSL3 by BitByBitPrime using a pretty abusive strategy that not many people had solved by that point. How about you give him a break... He may just do a Jinro and I think he would appreciate our support.
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Polnikov
Profile Joined January 2011
South Africa10 Posts
February 13 2011 09:36 GMT
#255
THiS IS THE TSSSLL!!!!!

SpanKing - the Korens had their opportunity - shut up now!
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
February 13 2011 09:41 GMT
#256
Oh. Mai Gawd.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
February 13 2011 09:46 GMT
#257
sick sick zerg players i bet that one of them will win TSL3 )
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
February 13 2011 09:51 GMT
#258
God this is awesome. Idra, Fruitdealer, and Nestea is awesome. I really like Ret too, and I look forward to Haypro revitalizing his name after the (rather embarrassing imo) defeat to BitByBit in the GSL. Definitely looking forward to this!
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 13 2011 09:53 GMT
#259
I was really looking forward and hoping for July if only because he seems like one of those players with not only an amazing background but sparklings of something really great in his play. Maybe that's just me but I guess one can't get everything one wants I am just happy to hear Nestea and Fruitdealer.

Haypro is.. a curious choice. I have high hopes for him sense he got this invite. If the GSTL has shown us anything just because a guy doesn't qualify for code a or s doesn't mean they are not code s material. I mean I don't know about you but I wouldn't be surprised if he did really well in this TSL!

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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
February 13 2011 09:56 GMT
#260
idra, ret, cool and zergbong is standard. would have much preferred july, moonglade or a sixth terran instead of haypro though, although i guess inviting your whole team to your own tournament is standard.

so i guess they invite jinro/boxer/nada/mvp/marineking, but maybe they invite loner?
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#261
On February 13 2011 18:41 mizU wrote:
Oh. Mai Gawd.


Sums it up. TSL will be so GODDAMN AWESOME!!!

Great job guys
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
February 13 2011 10:03 GMT
#262
Cool. Getting more exciting with every announcement.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 10:09:12
February 13 2011 10:08 GMT
#263
Calling it now. Haypro is going to dominate and all you nay sayers are going to be left clawing at him with praises. Dude has mad skills. I mean hell you would think people realise by now Nazgul is amazing at picking Talent. Jinro months back? Ret months back? It's Haypros turn to dominate.

ps: Ret vs Haypro finals!
IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
February 13 2011 10:09 GMT
#264
like the selections no suprises. I think i agree with everyone

Jinro
Boxer
MvP
MkP
NaDa


Would have absolutely no bad feelings about that. Or any of the selections at all so far.
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AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 10:10:30
February 13 2011 10:09 GMT
#265
On February 13 2011 18:36 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 18:32 AnotherEon wrote:
On February 13 2011 17:46 TheAntZ wrote:
If haypro read this thread and saw all of you morons going 'OMG Y HAYPRO INWAIT SO BIAS' how do you think he'd feel? He's an amazing player that has had a bad luck streak. Jinro didnt do anything before winning that MLG for a long time, look at him now. I'd watch haypro over zenio or check any day of the week
quit bitchin

thats your opinion, as for Jinro he hadn't had many had many opportunities to prove himself when he went to korea... it can be a bit random trying to qualify for GSL, a hard bracket or very cheesy opponents can make it difficult to qualify since there are no seeds and it is single elimination


This is ironic given Haypro has actually won or placed well in SC2 tournaments outside of Korea (Jinro only won MLG) and was cheesed out of GSL3 by BitByBitPrime using a pretty abusive strategy that not many people had solved by that point. How about you give him a break... He may just do a Jinro and I think he would appreciate our support.

bitbybit did 2rax into mass marine scv all in in only one game, which is the "abusive" strategy you are referring to, game 2 was just poor scouting by haypro. plus jinro was not very good before he went to korea nor did he compete in any other tournaments apart from GSL and MLG after arriving in korea, so not sure what your point is? haypro didn't do very well at MLG either, losing to drewbie (who tbh wasnt a very skilled opponent compared to who he could have been matched up against) i'm not some hater, i'd gladly be proved wrong if haypro shows some good play but at this point we can only speculate, and when there are other strong contenders like julyzerg/moonglade then it is questionable whether haypro merits an invite over them (Apart from the obvious fact he is on team liquid)
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2745 Posts
February 13 2011 10:10 GMT
#266
fruitdealer!
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
February 13 2011 10:16 GMT
#267
lineup is sick already! 2 champions :O
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
February 13 2011 10:22 GMT
#268
On February 13 2011 19:08 Numy wrote:
Calling it now. Haypro is going to dominate and all you nay sayers are going to be left clawing at him with praises. Dude has mad skills. I mean hell you would think people realise by now Nazgul is amazing at picking Talent. Jinro months back? Ret months back? It's Haypros turn to dominate.

ps: Ret vs Haypro finals!


what he said, Haypr0 is gonna pwn so hard
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
February 13 2011 10:24 GMT
#269
On February 13 2011 19:09 IndridCold wrote:
like the selections no suprises. I think i agree with everyone

Jinro
Boxer
MvP
MkP
NaDa


Would have absolutely no bad feelings about that. Or any of the selections at all so far.


I think Nada could also be replaced with TOP, don't know how Nada is doing atm...
coddan
Profile Joined May 2010
Estonia890 Posts
February 13 2011 10:25 GMT
#270
For someone who wasn't around for Brood war: how many viewers did the TSL events get?
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
February 13 2011 10:32 GMT
#271
Amazing line up =D

Oh god... this is going to be so awesome!
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
February 13 2011 10:36 GMT
#272
Don't get me wrong, I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that HayprO and ret deserves to be in TSL as they are a lot more skilled than players like Kas and CrunCher. But there are better korean zergs that could be invited (JulyZerg, Leenock, Junwi, Zenio, Losira, maybe Kyrix). Still, invitations roll.
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whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 10:37:04
February 13 2011 10:36 GMT
#273
yey ! cant wait to see korean only ro8 lol
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
February 13 2011 10:37 GMT
#274
The first 3 was as easily predicted but the last two picks blew my mind. Never thought TL would be able to nab them.

I would assume TL would cop out and give it to oGsZenio and moonglade/or another lower Korea Zerg.
Someone call down the Thunder?
eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 13 2011 10:44 GMT
#275
I would be shaking in my fucking boots if I was one of the guys who had qualified now Im hoping for some strong perfomences from all the foreigners
asmgrad
Profile Joined January 2011
Serbia26 Posts
February 13 2011 10:46 GMT
#276
Hell YES Lol <3 Fruit Dealer
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ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 10:58:35
February 13 2011 10:53 GMT
#277
hope for a zvz final like helsinki :D

WOW im more hyped for this then for GSL

EGIdra is going to win this i hope, he IS the best (after nester imho, this season nestea had a little bit more luck with bracket then idra)

go gracken with the leather gracket :D

btw: lol at the fact that teams are making strategys against idra, that proves how op he is.
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
Juxx
Profile Joined April 2010
325 Posts
February 13 2011 10:57 GMT
#278
haypro and no moonglade?
Grubby Fighting!
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
February 13 2011 11:09 GMT
#279
Yesssssssss!

Nestea and FD... my zerg heroes <3.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
February 13 2011 11:10 GMT
#280
Nestea and IdrA, fuck yeah!
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
February 13 2011 11:10 GMT
#281
Very nice lineup so far, and it'll be interesting to see how well the GSL champions will fare in such a high-stacked international tournament.
shawty
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom294 Posts
February 13 2011 11:16 GMT
#282
Oh. my. god. No tournament ever will be able to compete with the TSL, it's just going to be too epic!
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
February 13 2011 11:17 GMT
#283
@Coddan

I have no real numbers, but I remember that there were numbers much over 10k...live viewers, not counting the ones that watched the VODs...but maybe someone from Liquid knows more.
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
February 13 2011 11:28 GMT
#284
Cool invites. This will be an ultra sick tournament lineup.
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
February 13 2011 11:37 GMT
#285
I think MVP Jinro and MKP are set as terran invites.
Godstorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania845 Posts
February 13 2011 11:39 GMT
#286
Awesome ^^ tsl 3 is shaping up to be insanely epic!
Also some people don't seem to realize these are invites for players in asia, because they can't play in eu/na quals since the lag is impossible.
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor"-Day 9
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
February 13 2011 11:39 GMT
#287
As expected. Now Jinro + MVP + MKP
ggaemo fan
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
February 13 2011 11:41 GMT
#288
I'm just hoping Morrow manages to qualify so all my favourite zergs will be there.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
February 13 2011 11:43 GMT
#289
Awesome invites, can't wait, 2 GSL winners is gonna sick :D. But I think their are better Zergs than Haypro I would have rather MorroW been invited but ah well.
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HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
February 13 2011 11:50 GMT
#290
Well, the invites were not surprising, but I would like to have seen more young Zergs. Everyone except IdrA are about to reach their 30ies or their late 20ies. But anyways, these are strong players.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
Veasel
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 12:00:29
February 13 2011 11:52 GMT
#291
WTF. This is just bullshit fameing! Not acceptable that you letting LiquidHaypro getting in in front of soo many people when he hasnt accomplished anything. Liquid fail. Take someone who deserves it -.-


I mean you leave people like m00nglade and Zenio behind, in front of Haypro who hasnt won anything big yet, and not even being close. He is like any other master zerg, but he arent sticking out.

No instead choose moonglade who deserves it or Zenio because he is very skilled and he is a oGs member, which have helped you liquid guys alot. T_T



User was temp banned for this post.
Rest in Piece
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
February 13 2011 12:04 GMT
#292
this tsl gonna be incredible ;D
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
February 13 2011 12:05 GMT
#293
On February 13 2011 20:52 Veasel wrote:
WTF. This is just bullshit fameing! Not acceptable that you letting LiquidHaypro getting in in front of soo many people when he hasnt accomplished anything. Liquid fail. Take someone who deserves it -.-


I mean you leave people like m00nglade and Zenio behind, in front of Haypro who hasnt won anything big yet, and not even being close. He is like any other master zerg, but he arent sticking out.

No instead choose moonglade who deserves it or Zenio because he is very skilled and he is a oGs member, which have helped you liquid guys alot. T_T



and why moonglade deserves it more than haypro? what has moonglade done to deserve it more lol
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
McBrian
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark38 Posts
February 13 2011 12:09 GMT
#294
ROCK N ROLL! :D
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
February 13 2011 12:15 GMT
#295
these invites went exactly as expected

waiting on terrans, pretty obvious it's gonna be mvp mkp and jinro + 2 others, wondering what the other selections will be, when you got so many to choose from
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 12:27:37
February 13 2011 12:20 GMT
#296
On February 13 2011 21:15 anatem wrote:
these invites went exactly as expected

waiting on terrans, pretty obvious it's gonna be mvp mkp and jinro + 2 others, wondering what the other selections will be, when you got so many to choose from


slayers_boxer, oGsTop

nada?
Gogo Grubby.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28598 Posts
February 13 2011 12:27 GMT
#297
On February 13 2011 20:52 Veasel wrote:
WTF. This is just bullshit fameing! Not acceptable that you letting LiquidHaypro getting in in front of soo many people when he hasnt accomplished anything. Liquid fail. Take someone who deserves it -.-


I mean you leave people like m00nglade and Zenio behind, in front of Haypro who hasnt won anything big yet, and not even being close. He is like any other master zerg, but he arent sticking out.

No instead choose moonglade who deserves it or Zenio because he is very skilled and he is a oGs member, which have helped you liquid guys alot. T_T



This is just stupid. if haypro did not get invited, as the tlopens are not available to korean residents, we would basically have said that "well, because of the fact that you were willing to go to korea to play for our team, you lost your chance at competing in the biggest nonkorean tournament ever." how the hell was that ever an option?

notice how TLO has not gotten an invite and has to qualify through regular procedures.. it's not so much auto-inviting everyone in tl as it is avoiding severly punishing our own members - who the hell would like to be a member of tl if membership automatically disqualified them from participating in the TSL?
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wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
February 13 2011 12:34 GMT
#298
Freaking FD AND NesTea!?!?! God this is going to be epic. Can't wait for NesTea to tear shit up!
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
February 13 2011 12:42 GMT
#299
Holy crap this is going to be epic
ReacH.
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland333 Posts
February 13 2011 12:46 GMT
#300
Hot damn, this line-up just keeps getting better!

My predictions for Terran invites: Jinro, MVP, MKP, BoxeR and NaDa
Blasts
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands99 Posts
February 13 2011 12:46 GMT
#301
Liquid'Drone has a very valid point imo. Would be stupid to not invite Haypro. I hope you show people how it's done Haypro!

Furthermore: Awesome, lots of good players, this is going to be EPIC.
TEAMLIQUID FIGHTING!
My worst MU is me vs my cat. I always try to 2 rax him, but he 4 claws me :(
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
February 13 2011 12:49 GMT
#302
I'm getting so pumped for this !!
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Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
February 13 2011 12:55 GMT
#303
So sick
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eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 13 2011 13:19 GMT
#304
How stupid would TL be if they did not invite their members over in korea? Can you honestly say that any other organisation would throw a big ass tournament like this (with the best players in the world) without inviting their members? It's like Drone says.

Are there better Zerg's than HayprO? Well, yes. But on the other hand... Before GSL 3 noone made a big fuss about Jinro neither. I really hope HayprO performes well.


GL to all foreigners
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
February 13 2011 13:22 GMT
#305
I SITLL miss an invitation to tester. I really wanna see him again in an international tourney.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Aragos
Profile Joined October 2010
France182 Posts
February 13 2011 13:22 GMT
#306
Nice news !
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
February 13 2011 13:34 GMT
#307
This sure put a lot of pressure on Haypro to perform well in the tsl.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
February 13 2011 13:34 GMT
#308
I find the Haypro invite a bit curious as well, however he has been practising in Korea for quite a while and perhaps he was just unlucky in the GSL so far. I frankly haven't seen him play a whole lot since beta, hope he tears some shit up instead of looking like someone who got invited without deserving it, so to say. I'd imagine it's the former unless he spent the last few months in Korea playing WoW, and that seems unlikely.

That said, Nestea and Fruitdealer? Seems like a lot of GSL champions will be participating, I can't wait, especially looking forward to seeing Nestea face off against top Western players. The only thing that could potentially make the tournament a bit less awesome is if two Korean (real Koreans) are in the finals, I'd love to see West vs. East.

Arghghg still weeks to go.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
February 13 2011 13:42 GMT
#309
I was wondering if there was any particular reasoning for the distribution among invite to the races, (I thought for a second it was going to be 5-4-4 (In favour of Zerg, since they seem to be low on qualifiers), but this would mean that it will be 5-5-3 with Toss at the lower end.
the farm ends here
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 13 2011 13:42 GMT
#310
wow didn't think we'd get nestea AND fruit :D.

For the terrans:

Jinro: Obvious
Marineking: Very very likely
MVP: Looking a lot more possible now that Nestea is in this.

Nada and Boxer would be a dream come true but they seem like a bit of a stretch to get. We'll probably get some combination of rainbow/maka/top for the remaining spots.
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 13:57:31
February 13 2011 13:56 GMT
#311
WTF at people saying Haypro should not have invite... it's the freeking Teamliquid Star League so it's obvious every TEAMLIQUID player should be invited. It's in fact pretty manner that TLO get to qualify by going through the TSL Open... he should have a spot since he is from the team who is linked to the freeking website that makes the whole tournament.

Aside from that, wow FruitDealer, this guy is awesome. I hope the TL staff is going to feed us with some interviews on every players and shit like that.
The big surprise will be to see players such as Nestea and MC fight against Cruncher and Naniwa... there is a big big difference of skill in my opinion, but well we will see.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 13 2011 13:57 GMT
#312
On February 13 2011 22:42 PartyBiscuit wrote:
I was wondering if there was any particular reasoning for the distribution among invite to the races, (I thought for a second it was going to be 5-4-4 (In favour of Zerg, since they seem to be low on qualifiers), but this would mean that it will be 5-5-3 with Toss at the lower end.


I think it's just a mixture of who is willing and who are the bigger names. I wouldn't expect them to go out of their way and say "We are only going to invite 2 P" or something along the lines. Prob had a list of players they wanted to invite regardless of race.

This could be completely wrong though.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
February 13 2011 13:57 GMT
#313
On February 13 2011 10:46 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
sweet jesus, two GSL champions

dont forget MC
CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
February 13 2011 14:07 GMT
#314
I dont think those players (nestea and fruitdealer in particular) would have agreed to take part in many tourneys besides this outside from korea. very impressive that TL managed to get them. its gonan be such a great tourney, hopefully with fruitdealer in GSL season 1 shape.
There is no unemployment amongst overlords-Artosis
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
February 13 2011 14:07 GMT
#315
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post



I think its a bit weird Spanking is warned for this post.

Love the invites. Makes me indeed all jiggly and wiggly!

:D
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
February 13 2011 14:14 GMT
#316
My predictions were right! Sweet.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
February 13 2011 14:15 GMT
#317
On February 13 2011 23:07 Tiazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post



I think its a bit weird Spanking is warned for this post.

Love the invites. Makes me indeed all jiggly and wiggly!

:D

yeah.. weird warning. I disagree with it as spanking put it (i guess saying dimaga or morrow was the part he was warned about cause they can qualify the normal way, right?). I can't for my life remember a single time i've seen haypro play (in bw or sc2) where i've felt "fuck yeah, this guys awesome!" I know he's a good player and he's won dreamhack for example but he still failed to impress me so far compared to the other invites. Really hoping he proves me a fool though! GL all zergs^^
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
February 13 2011 14:20 GMT
#318
Whats with moonglade and Sen?
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
February 13 2011 14:22 GMT
#319
omgomgomgomggogogm FD & NesTea ???? <3 TSL3

Lim Jae Duck Fighting !!!
OGirly
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1 Post
February 13 2011 14:22 GMT
#320
Great! I"m so excited for this!!!
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28598 Posts
February 13 2011 14:27 GMT
#321
On February 13 2011 23:07 Tiazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post



I think its a bit weird Spanking is warned for this post.

Love the invites. Makes me indeed all jiggly and wiggly!

:D


spanking gave his opinion on something he obviously has no clue whatsoever on and he should read more before he posts. this is indicated through him stating "morrow" or "dimaga" as his choices.

morrow has his change to qualify through tl opens. this is no different from _every single other player residing in europe or the americas_.
dimaga is banned from tsl3 because he abused in tsl2. lots of people have made posts suggesting moonglade for example, without being warned.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 13 2011 14:34 GMT
#322
That and the fact it's been addressed over 8 times already in this thread yet people still fail when it comes to reading comprehension.
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
February 13 2011 14:35 GMT
#323
I'm a little surprised that it's TL policy to warn people for being wrong. I had no idea Dimaga was actually banned, myself. That said, I'm more than happy with the current list of invites, what a tournament this is shaping up to be.
Railin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 14:47:23
February 13 2011 14:43 GMT
#324
I love the lineup but I wish I wish I wish LeenockfOu was on it ...

Although I understand you picking your own teammate Haypro instead, although, IMHO, Leenock would be much more entertaining to watch - he hasn't played a boring or uninteresting game yet.
~~femFxRailin~~ "Sc2 strategies have an interesting history of being developed in Europe, perfected in Korea, and used on unsuspecting Americans" [Tree.Hugger]
6xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines51 Posts
February 13 2011 14:49 GMT
#325
Wow. Just WOW. I will be cheering for Idra and Fruitseller. Gogogo!
zerg, zerg everywhere.
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
February 13 2011 14:52 GMT
#326
OMG.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9013 Posts
February 13 2011 14:56 GMT
#327
On February 13 2011 22:42 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
wow didn't think we'd get nestea AND fruit :D.

For the terrans:

Jinro: Obvious
Marineking: Very very likely
MVP: Looking a lot more possible now that Nestea is in this.

Nada and Boxer would be a dream come true but they seem like a bit of a stretch to get. We'll probably get some combination of rainbow/maka/top for the remaining spots.

Both Rainbow and Maka are not doing very well recently and probably will get stomped badly. MK/Jinro/MVP are pretty much locked. Maybe Nada/Boxer for the 4th spot just for show. Or Top if we can't get them.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
February 13 2011 15:13 GMT
#328
The champions of Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of the GSL will be competing along side the best of the international scene.

I hope you can add the winner of the first "real" GSL Tournament next week...
There can only be one Geisterkarle
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
February 13 2011 15:30 GMT
#329
WHAT THE HELL , how nice!!
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
February 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#330
On February 13 2011 23:20 Tigi wrote:
Whats with moonglade and Sen?

Sen has automatically qualified. So is mondragon and Tyler. Moonglade isn't in because the spots are limited, and liquid has to make sure haypro gets to play since he plays for TL in Korea.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 15:45:37
February 13 2011 15:39 GMT
#331
On February 13 2011 23:27 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 23:07 Tiazi wrote:
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post



I think its a bit weird Spanking is warned for this post.

Love the invites. Makes me indeed all jiggly and wiggly!

:D


spanking gave his opinion on something he obviously has no clue whatsoever on and he should read more before he posts. this is indicated through him stating "morrow" or "dimaga" as his choices.

morrow has his change to qualify through tl opens. this is no different from _every single other player residing in europe or the americas_.
dimaga is banned from tsl3 because he abused in tsl2. lots of people have made posts suggesting moonglade for example, without being warned.


well he also suggested that liquid invite another korean, which I have to agree with. Haypro hasnt earned his spot in the TSL if you compare him to the other invites IMO

but of course hes a liquid guy so he's exempt of all criticism and if the original poster had replaced 'haypro' with 'nestea' he wouldnt have gotten a warning.

people are flat out wrong on these forums 1000x a day, if you're gonna warn people for criticizing haypro at least be open about it

User was warned for this post
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billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 15:55:24
February 13 2011 15:52 GMT
#332
On February 14 2011 00:39 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 23:27 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 13 2011 23:07 Tiazi wrote:
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post



I think its a bit weird Spanking is warned for this post.

Love the invites. Makes me indeed all jiggly and wiggly!

:D


spanking gave his opinion on something he obviously has no clue whatsoever on and he should read more before he posts. this is indicated through him stating "morrow" or "dimaga" as his choices.

morrow has his change to qualify through tl opens. this is no different from _every single other player residing in europe or the americas_.
dimaga is banned from tsl3 because he abused in tsl2. lots of people have made posts suggesting moonglade for example, without being warned.


well he also suggested that liquid invite another korean, which I have to agree with. Haypro hasnt earned his spot in the TSL if you compare him to the other invites IMO

but of course hes a liquid guy so he's exempt of all criticism and if the original poster had replaced 'haypro' with 'nestea' he wouldnt have gotten a warning.


people are flat out wrong on these forums 1000x a day, if you're gonna warn people for criticizing haypro at least be open about it

Did you read his post? the guy suggested morrow and dimaga... two players NOT on the korean server. morrow is currently trying to qualify (check point total) and dimaga is banned from tsl3. If you're going to post in a tsl discussion, at least be informed and read the earlier threads.

btw, that had absolutely nothing with criticizing haypro... seriously... read the 192030123 other posts whining about this who have no warnings/bans.
jorder247
Profile Joined October 2010
United States10 Posts
February 13 2011 15:57 GMT
#333
holy shit fuck yes. this is going to be incredible.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
February 13 2011 15:58 GMT
#334
haypro indeed doesn't seem to be deserving of a spot as he has been underperforming.

I think a proper korean invite in his place would have been zenio or kyrix. But he is liquid so I understand he has to be invited...
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
February 13 2011 16:00 GMT
#335
wow... I never expected to Zerg invites to be this good. This is so sick. Great job TL <3
Sures
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany31 Posts
February 13 2011 16:02 GMT
#336
Best Invites ever ! ! cant wait for it now :D
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
February 13 2011 16:08 GMT
#337
Some people in this thread are just mind numbingly stupid, it has been mentioned time and time again why haypro was picked but people still complain about how he doesn't deserve his spot. Come on people, really?
We make signature, then defense it.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 16:17:39
February 13 2011 16:09 GMT
#338
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
February 13 2011 16:13 GMT
#339
Amazing that people don't stop and think before typing out their complaints at the apparent disparity of Liquid members being invited ahead of other big name, Korean players. For a start, all of those foreigner players residing in Korea qualified under their own skill for TSL2 - so they are easily worthy of being amongst the other NA/EU players who qualify through the Opens. Is anyone seriously saying they think Haypro couldn't qualify if he was back in the states like TLO is? And if you are, what could you possibly be basing it on. Sure it's arguable that Haypro isn't as good as some of the Korean zergs who didn't receive invites. But then TL never said they were looking for "the best in the world even if most of them are korean" (a view they don't hold anyway I believe). They want an international event with a decent representation from not just the NA and EU servers but also the Korean server also.

Reaching out and inviting 13 people from the korean server (even if only 7 are actually Korean) is pretty generous of TL. I don't remember the OSL/MSL ever giving out foreigner invites (skill discrepancy aside).
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zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 16:14:24
February 13 2011 16:14 GMT
#340
On February 14 2011 00:13 Geisterkarle wrote:
Show nested quote +
The champions of Seasons 1, 2 and 3 of the GSL will be competing along side the best of the international scene.

I hope you can add the winner of the first "real" GSL Tournament next week...


Saving the final boss for last
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
February 13 2011 16:22 GMT
#341
Wow, both NesTea and FruidDealer. This tourney is going to be insane.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 13 2011 16:35 GMT
#342
Nestea, Fruitdealer and Idra.

I am content with these Zerg choices.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
February 13 2011 16:42 GMT
#343
On February 13 2011 23:35 Airship wrote:
I'm a little surprised that it's TL policy to warn people for being wrong. I had no idea Dimaga was actually banned, myself. That said, I'm more than happy with the current list of invites, what a tournament this is shaping up to be.

You don't get warned for being wrong - you get warned for making bold statements based on lack of information because otherwise we'll be going in circles of idiotic discussion forever.
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Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
February 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#344
OMFG!!!! Fruitdealer and nestea, I cannot believe this shit is actually happening!
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
February 13 2011 17:07 GMT
#345
MY DICK IS HARD
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 13 2011 17:08 GMT
#346
On February 14 2011 01:13 Subversive wrote:
Amazing that people don't stop and think before typing out their complaints at the apparent disparity of Liquid members being invited ahead of other big name, Korean players. For a start, all of those foreigner players residing in Korea qualified under their own skill for TSL2 - so they are easily worthy of being amongst the other NA/EU players who qualify through the Opens. Is anyone seriously saying they think Haypro couldn't qualify if he was back in the states like TLO is? And if you are, what could you possibly be basing it on. Sure it's arguable that Haypro isn't as good as some of the Korean zergs who didn't receive invites. But then TL never said they were looking for "the best in the world even if most of them are korean" (a view they don't hold anyway I believe). They want an international event with a decent representation from not just the NA and EU servers but also the Korean server also.

Reaching out and inviting 13 people from the korean server (even if only 7 are actually Korean) is pretty generous of TL. I don't remember the OSL/MSL ever giving out foreigner invites (skill discrepancy aside).


Good point. Also there's nothing whatsoever stopping the Koreans from participating in the qualifiers, right?
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
XiIVcDeI
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4 Posts
February 13 2011 17:10 GMT
#347
If Zerg > 0;
Zerg = <3 & Winz

If Zerg >= 5;
Zerg = <3 <3 + Fires and 2nd and 3rd place xD
“Judge a man by his questions rather than by his answers.”
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
February 13 2011 17:11 GMT
#348
I'm looking forward to this, and I hope HayprO shows everyone going against him wrong. He is a very strong zerg, but just lacks a bit of confidence in his play to really shine. Its weird that people go off on him like this, totally forgetting the stick Jinro took before he got that little confidence boost he needed. Look at him now ? Going by skill and entertainment value, HayprO seems like the obvious choise from the "remaining" zergs, when the main ones have been chosen. Zenio is ok, wouldn't have minded him in there, but he hasn't been performing all that good, and most people know who he is because of the whole IdrA deal. Kyrix ? Slumping like its nobodys business.
Dead girls don't say no.
EndoGaming
Profile Joined February 2011
United States26 Posts
February 13 2011 17:23 GMT
#349
On February 13 2011 23:07 Tiazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

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I think its a bit weird Spanking is warned for this post.

Love the invites. Makes me indeed all jiggly and wiggly!

:D



I agree with spanking 100 percent the only thing that i am fine with haypro as a choice is based off of two reasons...

1. he is Team Liquid
2. Morrow is European and he has his chance of earning his spot through the TL opens

But from a pure skill level there are probably a lot more zergs I would love to see such as JULY and even Zenio he is oGs and a popular player ... who knows maybe haypro will show us why he deserves the spot and prove everyone in this thread wrong...
Our community is built on our passion...
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
February 13 2011 17:30 GMT
#350
Now TSL take out Scrap Station and Metalopolis from the map pool and it will be by far the best tournament to watch in this year.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
February 13 2011 17:31 GMT
#351
Again, it's nice to see that the tournament lives up to its name: Teamliquid Starleague.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
rampaeg
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
February 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#352

"If you asked the question who is the best Zerg player in the world' there is little doubt that the Answer would be (Z)NesTea."

i think it is supposed to be: I think there is little doubt that the answer WOULDNT be (Z)NesTea.
ABCZerg
Profile Joined December 2010
26 Posts
February 13 2011 18:03 GMT
#353
So psyched! My favorite zergs are in this now!
TheLast
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany59 Posts
February 13 2011 18:05 GMT
#354
So awesome <33
Gonna be the best tournament evar (besides GLS maybe).
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
February 13 2011 18:14 GMT
#355
Holy shit this is so awesome.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28598 Posts
February 13 2011 18:25 GMT
#356
On February 14 2011 02:52 rampaeg wrote:

"If you asked the question who is the best Zerg player in the world' there is little doubt that the Answer would be (Z)NesTea."

i think it is supposed to be: I think there is little doubt that the answer WOULDNT be (Z)NesTea.


your tlpd's point towards his bw stats, which indeed are not impressive.

but look at his sc2 stats
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/29_NesTea
or the sc2 ELO rank (http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/?tabulator_search=&auto_redirect=1), where he's far, far ahead of other zergs..
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godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
February 13 2011 18:31 GMT
#357
On February 14 2011 03:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 02:52 rampaeg wrote:

"If you asked the question who is the best Zerg player in the world' there is little doubt that the Answer would be (Z)NesTea."

i think it is supposed to be: I think there is little doubt that the answer WOULDNT be (Z)NesTea.


your tlpd's point towards his bw stats, which indeed are not impressive.

but look at his sc2 stats
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/29_NesTea
or the sc2 ELO rank (http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/?tabulator_search=&auto_redirect=1), where he's far, far ahead of other zergs..


18-0 vs zerg and protoss, very impressive.
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
February 13 2011 18:52 GMT
#358
Nice!!!

Love the invites, all of them. Cannot wait to see Haypro play again since we didnt see a lot of games from him in the last few month.

TSL is going to be SO GOOD!
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 18:57:04
February 13 2011 18:53 GMT
#359
On February 13 2011 10:57 jfourz wrote:
disappointed with the lack of a Morrow invite, but i guess we already knew he wouldnt get one since he's been playing in the tlopens.
impressed and excited as hell thanks to the nestea invite and the confirmations of ret & idra!


Does morrow play on the Korean server? No. He can qualify the same way as any other player in EU - through the EU TL opens. OH WAIT HE ALREADY DID QUALIFY.

Teamspeak TL SC2 Open #12 / TSL3 Qualifier #5

Edit - added link.
Seriously people, these invites are for players who cannot easily participate in the NA/EU TL Opens because they're in Korea. Read.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
February 13 2011 18:55 GMT
#360
On February 14 2011 03:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 02:52 rampaeg wrote:

"If you asked the question who is the best Zerg player in the world' there is little doubt that the Answer would be (Z)NesTea."

i think it is supposed to be: I think there is little doubt that the answer WOULDNT be (Z)NesTea.


your tlpd's point towards his bw stats, which indeed are not impressive.

but look at his sc2 stats
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/29_NesTea
or the sc2 ELO rank (http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/?tabulator_search=&auto_redirect=1), where he's far, far ahead of other zergs..

lol i cant believe you even responded to this guy haha
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Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
February 13 2011 18:56 GMT
#361
I'm kind of wondering how the brackets will be set up to guarantee a tyler/mondragon rematch. Because really, they can't expect them to advance beyond round 1 without a doubt, so are they going to place them against each other early on?

That makes me wonder about the brackets, is it going to be random?

If not, we should be arguing about how the brackets are going to be set up, not the terran invites, because honestly, it's going to be.
Jinro, Boxer, MVP, NaDa, and loner because they stressed "Asian invites, not just korean".

Although MKP might be in there also, perhaps instead of NaDa or loner.
You recognise me because of my signature!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 13 2011 19:02 GMT
#362
go haypro!
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Ciara
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark13 Posts
February 13 2011 19:02 GMT
#363
On February 14 2011 01:42 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 23:35 Airship wrote:
I'm a little surprised that it's TL policy to warn people for being wrong. I had no idea Dimaga was actually banned, myself. That said, I'm more than happy with the current list of invites, what a tournament this is shaping up to be.

You don't get warned for being wrong - you get warned for making bold statements based on lack of information because otherwise we'll be going in circles of idiotic discussion forever.


I thought you got warned/banned by dissagreeing with choosing haypro over someone like leenock or kyrixs, also feel like lot of these warns/bans are so undeserved. what happened to freedom of speech? ^^
Saying leenock and kyrics deserves it more does not mean haypro by any means is bad, so take that into account before you warn/ban me.

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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
February 13 2011 19:13 GMT
#364
Really awesome, seriously awesome.. This is going to be the greatest SC2 tournament so far!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 13 2011 19:15 GMT
#365
On February 14 2011 04:02 Ciara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 01:42 Chill wrote:
On February 13 2011 23:35 Airship wrote:
I'm a little surprised that it's TL policy to warn people for being wrong. I had no idea Dimaga was actually banned, myself. That said, I'm more than happy with the current list of invites, what a tournament this is shaping up to be.

You don't get warned for being wrong - you get warned for making bold statements based on lack of information because otherwise we'll be going in circles of idiotic discussion forever.


I thought you got warned/banned by dissagreeing with choosing haypro over someone like leenock or kyrixs, also feel like lot of these warns/bans are so undeserved. what happened to freedom of speech? ^^
Saying leenock and kyrics deserves it more does not mean haypro by any means is bad, so take that into account before you warn/ban me.


it's not like there were a 100 people banned here, there are maybe 3-4 warnings in this thread and they actually went out to posts that are legitimately stupid...

pretty sure you won't get a warning just by disagreeing with a decision as long as you do it in a respectful manner and don't go "LUL WTF THIS HAYPRO GUY?! HE SO BAD! TL U SUXX!"
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Eeevil
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands359 Posts
February 13 2011 19:23 GMT
#366
I've seen some of Haypro's games, if anyhing they're damn entertaining. He's a true gritty fight to the end zerg. He won't disappoint.
Oh yeah.....how did people talk about Jinro's skills before he started pwning the (#$& out of everyone in MLG and later GSL.

And it probably been mentioned in the thread. The players in Korea have no way of qualifying apart from traveling back to EU/US or do it like QXC and play after assembly. Since the lag is god awful.

I wonder how TL will manage the lag problem in tournament.

Apart from that.....Fruitdealer and Nestea
Holy %^&(_)%^$ !!!!!
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
February 13 2011 19:31 GMT
#367
On February 14 2011 04:02 Ciara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 01:42 Chill wrote:
On February 13 2011 23:35 Airship wrote:
I'm a little surprised that it's TL policy to warn people for being wrong. I had no idea Dimaga was actually banned, myself. That said, I'm more than happy with the current list of invites, what a tournament this is shaping up to be.

You don't get warned for being wrong - you get warned for making bold statements based on lack of information because otherwise we'll be going in circles of idiotic discussion forever.


I thought you got warned/banned by dissagreeing with choosing haypro over someone like leenock or kyrixs, also feel like lot of these warns/bans are so undeserved. what happened to freedom of speech? ^^
Saying leenock and kyrics deserves it more does not mean haypro by any means is bad, so take that into account before you warn/ban me.


There are plenty of people in the thread who voiced their concerns over HayprO's invite with intelligent, well-thought out posts. They weren't warned or banned. It's the people who bash him and TL for inviting him without considering the fact that he's a member of the team that is running this incredible tournament and can't even attempt to qualify through the TL Opens.

They're right in the fact that he hasn't accomplished a whole lot in SC2 yet, but he's an entertaining player and he deserves the chance to prove himself on what is looking like the biggest SC2 stage outside of Korea.

People seem to forget that tournament invitations are a good chance to get up and coming players who don't have a long list of accomplishments in SC2 but could make for some exciting games and good match ups.

Are Leenock or Kyrix better? Maybe, but they already got the two best Korean Zergs and the two best foreign Zergs living in Korea, why would anyone complain about HayprO?

On that note, this tournament is looking to be incredible. I, like everyone else, am expecting to see some mix of Jinro, MKP, MVP, BoxeR, NaDa, Clide, etc. next week. Any combination of them will make this a completely stacked tournament and a must watch.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 13 2011 19:32 GMT
#368
nice invites (except fruitdealer)

gogo nestea))
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Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
February 13 2011 19:40 GMT
#369
On February 14 2011 04:02 Ciara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 01:42 Chill wrote:
On February 13 2011 23:35 Airship wrote:
I'm a little surprised that it's TL policy to warn people for being wrong. I had no idea Dimaga was actually banned, myself. That said, I'm more than happy with the current list of invites, what a tournament this is shaping up to be.

You don't get warned for being wrong - you get warned for making bold statements based on lack of information because otherwise we'll be going in circles of idiotic discussion forever.


I thought you got warned/banned by dissagreeing with choosing haypro over someone like leenock or kyrixs, also feel like lot of these warns/bans are so undeserved. what happened to freedom of speech? ^^
Saying leenock and kyrics deserves it more does not mean haypro by any means is bad, so take that into account before you warn/ban me.

Freedom of Speech....wat

This is TL.net not some country and yes they invite their OWN players to their OWN tournament, any other Site or Team would do the same if they ever made a 32k tournament.
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
February 13 2011 19:56 GMT
#370
There's a few tournaments that I really appreciate... I have no doubt that this will be one of those 2011!

GSTL brought so many new stars that I've never really seen before, hope this does the same!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
February 13 2011 19:56 GMT
#371
On February 14 2011 04:32 MorroW wrote:
nice invites (except fruitdealer)

gogo nestea))


Why do you say that? Not a fan of fruitdealer?
Drone then Own
Kilgort
Profile Joined July 2010
Ukraine41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 20:00:44
February 13 2011 19:58 GMT
#372
Dimaga is better than Haypro and Morrow I think too.
PS I understood now why them can't be qualified.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 13 2011 19:58 GMT
#373
On February 14 2011 03:53 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:57 jfourz wrote:
disappointed with the lack of a Morrow invite, but i guess we already knew he wouldnt get one since he's been playing in the tlopens.
impressed and excited as hell thanks to the nestea invite and the confirmations of ret & idra!


Does morrow play on the Korean server? No. He can qualify the same way as any other player in EU - through the EU TL opens. OH WAIT HE ALREADY DID QUALIFY.

Teamspeak TL SC2 Open #12 / TSL3 Qualifier #5

Edit - added link.
Seriously people, these invites are for players who cannot easily participate in the NA/EU TL Opens because they're in Korea. Read.


I think you're mixing it up a little. The link you posted is the registration list, not what they ended up placing in the tourney. Morrow will need a strong finish to qualify, but given his recent performance, I really think he can do it.

Here are the current qualified people, the invites, and the point standings:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180961
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 13 2011 20:02 GMT
#374
On February 14 2011 04:58 Kilgort wrote:
Dimaga is better than Haypro and Morrow I think too.
PS I understood now why them can't be qualified.


Nice ninja edit. You were pretty close to being hammered.
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
February 13 2011 20:04 GMT
#375
Wonderful invites :D Gonna be great.
Jazzi!
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
February 13 2011 20:09 GMT
#376
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

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Dimaga can't participate hes still banned from cheating in TSL2 and Morrow isn't as strong as haypro so honestly who else to invite?
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Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
February 13 2011 20:16 GMT
#377
On February 14 2011 05:09 Sworn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post


Dimaga can't participate hes still banned from cheating in TSL2 and Morrow isn't as strong as haypro so honestly who else to invite?


How did he cheat? Never heard of it before...
AeonStrife
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States918 Posts
February 13 2011 20:21 GMT
#378
Great invites. I am going to be taking close attention to Idra and Nestea without a doubt. I hope we won't see any ZvZs in the early rounds. It would be a shame to have these great players knock each other out... (and ZvZ is not the most exciting MU)
Whats worse...US Poltics or SC2 Balance Talks...
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
February 13 2011 20:25 GMT
#379
It is understandable and predictable that TL would invite their players to the tournament. However, from what I remember it was announced that these invites would be given to "the best and most deserving" players playing in the asian servers. And well.. there are several korean zergs that surely are more deserving than HayprO if this is the criteria, such as July, oGsZenio or even KyrixZenith. July would have been a great pick in my opinion, as he's both a huge name in the scene and is also code S and pretty damn good right now. HayprO, well, he might or might not be good but he really has nothing to show at this moment except the TL tag.

That being said, it's still going to be a great tournament with awesome players playing. I just think this would've made it a little bit better. ;]
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 13 2011 20:25 GMT
#380
On February 14 2011 05:09 Sworn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post


Dimaga can't participate hes still banned from cheating in TSL2 and Morrow isn't as strong as haypro so honestly who else to invite?

Dimaga is still banned and Morrow doesn't live in korea.....Thats why i warned him.
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
February 13 2011 20:25 GMT
#381
what happened to whitera and dimaga? havent seen them around lately
fuck lag
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 13 2011 20:32 GMT
#382
On February 14 2011 05:25 ZidaneTribal wrote:
what happened to whitera and dimaga? havent seen them around lately


White-Ra qualified and Dimaga is banned.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Lucidx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
February 13 2011 20:33 GMT
#383
Amazing cast :D
This is gonna be an incredible tournament.
" I would rather get AIDS then get hit by a bus then have my expansion blocked by a pylon" - Day[9]
MDMA_
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 20:45:43
February 13 2011 20:44 GMT
#384
this is gonna b amazinggggg
who you guys think will be the terran invites?
MVP JINRO BOXER NADA and?

i kinda wanted to see julyzerg over haypro maybe : )
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 13 2011 20:48 GMT
#385
On February 14 2011 05:16 Dac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 05:09 Sworn wrote:
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post


Dimaga can't participate hes still banned from cheating in TSL2 and Morrow isn't as strong as haypro so honestly who else to invite?


How did he cheat? Never heard of it before...


Ladder abuse from TSL2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108352
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
February 13 2011 21:07 GMT
#386
I think they should've increased the korean invites to allow for guys like JulyZerg to be invited. I'm happy with them overall though..
THE ANSWER IS 288
Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
February 13 2011 21:08 GMT
#387
I just got more excited for this than i did for the gstl! Holy crap! This is going to be so amazing!
I kinda miss Idra...
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
February 13 2011 21:13 GMT
#388
Holy Chuck Norris walking on Jesus Eating a Popsicle!!!! Best TSL yet!!! :D
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
takajoebacca
Profile Joined October 2010
United States35 Posts
February 13 2011 21:36 GMT
#389
This is going to be the greatest Tournament lineup to date! I'm really excited to see the Terrans.
I can beat IdrA in a real game...without real units. -Huk
iPood
Profile Joined January 2011
United States99 Posts
February 13 2011 22:05 GMT
#390
FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOLY SHIT I LOVE THESE GUYS FRUITDEALER!!!! OMG
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
February 13 2011 22:33 GMT
#391
IdrA fighting!!!

This TSL will be epic.
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
February 13 2011 22:44 GMT
#392
sorry I never played Sc1 what do you mean by ladder abuse?
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Burn2Memory
Profile Joined August 2010
United States574 Posts
February 13 2011 23:08 GMT
#393
I don't understand how haypro got an invite...I guess just because he is a member of Liquid? He really hasn't shown any good play and there are many better zergs in korea that could of gotten an invite..
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
February 13 2011 23:09 GMT
#394
Some posts earlier "corddan" asked an interesting question and i would like to repeat it in hope of an answer of someone who knows more:

how was the attendance in the last TSLs? how many viewers were on live stream ?
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
February 13 2011 23:09 GMT
#395
On February 14 2011 07:44 dapierow wrote:
sorry I never played Sc1 what do you mean by ladder abuse?


The qualification stage of TSL 2 was played on ICCUP, a 3rd-party ladder server. Unlike B.net 2.0, ICCUP's ladder did not randomly assign your opponent. The most common way to abuse the ladder was to intentionally lose to a friend (or have a friend intentionally lose to you) in order to generate free points and climb the ladder rankings quickly. It's a cheap and easy way to "game the system" but, fortunately, it was also easy to detect.
Taniard
Profile Joined June 2010
United States114 Posts
February 13 2011 23:24 GMT
#396
Great article!! This TSL will be freakin epic as heck!
An amateur practices until he can get it right, a professional practices until he can't get it wrong.
Vertig0
Profile Joined March 2009
United States196 Posts
February 13 2011 23:57 GMT
#397
Fruitdealer!!!
No other announcement could have made me more excited for TSL!
#1 Fruitdealer fan!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25974 Posts
February 14 2011 00:02 GMT
#398
On February 14 2011 08:09 Lambertus wrote:
Some posts earlier "corddan" asked an interesting question and i would like to repeat it in hope of an answer of someone who knows more:

how was the attendance in the last TSLs? how many viewers were on live stream ?

You have to understand that BW wasn't as big as SC2, but I believe the TSL1 finals peaked around 12000 and the TSL2 finals around 25000. I could be remembering wrong. At that time we didn't have streaming websites - TL hosted the mms streams directly themselves.
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Clare
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States372 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 00:09:13
February 14 2011 00:08 GMT
#399
On February 14 2011 05:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 05:25 ZidaneTribal wrote:
what happened to whitera and dimaga? havent seen them around lately


White-Ra qualified and Dimaga is banned.

Why is Dimaga banned exactly? Sorry, Idk anything about it.

EDIT: Nvm, someone else posted it should read more.
The dashboard melted but we still had the radio.
JayConn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States408 Posts
February 14 2011 00:31 GMT
#400
On February 14 2011 05:44 MDMA_ wrote:
this is gonna b amazinggggg
who you guys think will be the terran invites?
MVP JINRO BOXER NADA and?

i kinda wanted to see julyzerg over haypro maybe : )


I would guess those 4 + MKP.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
February 14 2011 00:57 GMT
#401
Oh god yes, what a freakin nice tourney!!.. It's going to be so incredibly epic.. rooting for FD now! :D
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
February 14 2011 02:21 GMT
#402
This tournament is going to be insane! I can't wait for it to start!
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 02:37:50
February 14 2011 02:36 GMT
#403
On February 14 2011 09:02 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 08:09 Lambertus wrote:
Some posts earlier "corddan" asked an interesting question and i would like to repeat it in hope of an answer of someone who knows more:

how was the attendance in the last TSLs? how many viewers were on live stream ?

You have to understand that BW wasn't as big as SC2, but I believe the TSL1 finals peaked around 12000 and the TSL2 finals around 25000. I could be remembering wrong. At that time we didn't have streaming websites - TL hosted the mms streams directly themselves.


I would also like to note that our daily traffic at TL.net has increased by 5-6 times since the release of SC2, so you can count on the numbers being much much higher for TSL3. Those numbers for a 10 year old game with none of the Korean stars was actually quite amazing.

Back in StarCraft1 for TSL 1 and 2, we were the biggest game in town outside of Korea. This is an additional reason why we invite foreigners from the "korean server" - because traditionally we never let the Koreans into the main tournament (although they could ladder if they wanted) because Koreans had so many opportunities to participate in events while this was the sole chance for the guys outside Korea. This policy has changed since because now everybody has opportunities everywhere. The fact that there are so many other tournaments outside of Korea now besides the TSL is just a testament to how far the scene has come.

But you can count on it that the TSL will continue to deliver and continue to be one of the most prestigious titles to hold in the international scene. =D
Pixalized
Profile Joined August 2010
United States25 Posts
February 14 2011 02:59 GMT
#404
Holy shit the TSL is gonna be AMAZING!
"But that's ok, I have a great build order for women. 8 Movie, 10 Dinner, 12 Kiss. If that doesn't work I follow up with some harrassment." -Day[9]
Sega92
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States467 Posts
February 14 2011 03:02 GMT
#405
*squeals excitedly*

this is going to be fucking awesome
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
February 14 2011 03:09 GMT
#406
ohhhhhhhhhhhh my god this is going to be the greatest tournament to date! well gstl 1 who knows..
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 03:14:58
February 14 2011 03:11 GMT
#407
if TSL can keep this kind of prize money and organize this league every 3 or so months, it will be amassing stuff. This invites show that there is no reason for the two scenes to exist, the Korean and "foreigner" scenes can become one with GSL and TSL, and possibly more later on.



Also with all the maps discussion going on now days what maps are you guys using for TSL? are you gonna use any of the GSL maps? or are you gonna stay on ladder maps? or possibly any of the new ladder maps?
this mah s#$%$
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 04:38:35
February 14 2011 03:34 GMT
#408
First of all I love foreigners in sc2 korean tourney, I always cheer for them in a tourney. Hopefully Haypro will dominate code A and go to code S.

Loves the invites, but I'm just stating my opinion Haypro one seems a bit weak I mean yes he is on the teamliquid team but it just doesn't feel the same. Nestea is the best zerg at the moment. Idra is pretty much the second best zerg. Ret showed strong performance in all tourney recently taking first in a Europe one. What did Haypro accomplish? I think it was round 64 in GSL 3 and a few teamleague wins.... Julyzerg(aka god of freaken war) or oGSzenio or Kyrix(ie the person who popularized mid game baneling bust) would have been much more epic. Even Moonglade who recently took down loner in I think it was Asian IEM final seems much more impressive.

But yea, Invites to a prestigious tourny should be epic. It defines the tourny. When people see the list of invites, they should be wow'ed. They should be the best players or most influential players without the chance to qualify and I think haypro is just not there yet. Like my friend watches SC2 competitively(he watches most GSL) but not a die hard fan like me. When he saw the list, he was like "epic idra", "the guy who has beast macro ret", "holy @#$ 2 GSL winners", and who?

Some people say "he fell only to bitbybitprime's all-in" but the we all saw how FD shut down bit's all in.


my guess for terran invites:
IMmvp-best player in the world
liquidJinro-foreign's greatest white hope bringing the macro to TvP and TvZ
Boxer-a tourey like this is great but what would make it epic? The emperor
Nada-what is better than having the emperor? Having the emperor with the most successful progamer of all time
MKP-most consistent terran.

honorable mentions:
rainbow- Im not 100% sure but he is consistent.
loner-well I like this guy so please?
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 14 2011 03:39 GMT
#409
I wonder who the terran invites will be.
Mvp, nada and boxer would probably make the most perfect and epic event ever O.o
By the way, is it going to be a LAN format, or are the koreans gonna play from korea with the lag?
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Mr.Ch4rms
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 05:06:14
February 14 2011 05:05 GMT
#410
lol whats so funny is that everyones like "oh TL just invited all thier own players" blah blah blah.


first. stop haypro bashing.
haypro is the man.


and guess what? TL didnt invite all thier own players.


TLO anyone?


doesnt it seem like maybe server connection drove invites? as in they couldnt play in NA/Euro events, so lets give them a shot?


i mean im super hyped about the top of the korean scene playing in this TSL, but being a fan of foreigner players(and a liquid fan), i really want to see the liquid players that are in korea, and havent had the opportunity to really play in events outside of korea.

im pretty sure that if haypro, huk and ret were in NA/EU they would have had to qualify just like TLO did (tyler didnt have to cause hes ballin and won the whole thing last time)
thats it stroke me clover
nartin
Profile Joined January 2011
1 Post
February 14 2011 06:13 GMT
#411
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post



Sometimes I think the people operating this site are stupid. Always warn or trying to ban user that don't deserve to be warned. I feel so discouraged. Almost 100% of the comments I read didn't deserve to be warned. This site is for starcraft community to express what they're thinking. Sometimes I feel like users' comments should be "TL is the great" or "TL is genius", or else they would not be welcomed. I think this site's mods should open up for all comments.

Who else think the mods are gay?

btw, this is my first comment, I think. I don't post a lot, but I like reading all comments from all starcraft fellows, and read a lot; and I'm so ready to be banned for this comment.

....and nerds out there, please don't quote this comment and write "lol", cause you'll be warned for sure!

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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 16:19:49
February 14 2011 06:18 GMT
#412
On February 14 2011 15:13 nartin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 10:49 SpaNkinG wrote:
i dont agree with haypros invite :O
just cuz he is TL-Player otherwise there still was Dimaga or morrow idk
or mb one more koren

User was warned for this post



Sometimes I think the people operating this site are stupid. Always warn or trying to ban user that don't deserve to be warned. I feel so discouraged. Almost 100% of the comments I read didn't deserve to be warned. This site is for starcraft community to express what they're thinking. Sometimes I feel like users' comments should be "TL is the great" or "TL is genius", or else they would not be welcomed. I think this site's mods should open up for all comments.

Who else think the mods are gay?

btw, this is my first comment, I think. I don't post a lot, but I like reading all comments from all starcraft fellows, and read a lot; and I'm so ready to be banned for this comment.

....and nerds out there, please don't quote this comment and write "lol", cause you'll be warned for sure!

User was banned for this post.

lol

User was warned for this post by himself.
starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
February 14 2011 06:37 GMT
#413
Ohhhh shiz, who is going to get the terran invites. MvP is obvious choice but I REALLLY hope Nada gets an invite.

I'm going to guess MvP, Jinro, MkP, NaDa
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 07:07:20
February 14 2011 07:04 GMT
#414
Terran: SlayerSBoxeR, MarineKingPrime, IMMVP, Liquid_Jinro, and I'm not sure about the 5th, but this is my guess for Terran Invites.

Edit: And thanks to the guy above me, NaDa is my 5th.

I'm calling it now. I'm pretty sure I am right too.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
MadPretty
Profile Joined October 2010
United States101 Posts
February 14 2011 07:31 GMT
#415
Sweet jesus. I'm terrified that once the Terran invites get announced that the universe will, in fact, contain no more awesome. It will be used up in a single moment. Then, when TSL3 commences, it will unleash a supernova and consume us all.
MDMA_
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada265 Posts
February 14 2011 08:19 GMT
#416
On February 14 2011 14:05 Mr.Ch4rms wrote:
lol whats so funny is that everyones like "oh TL just invited all thier own players" blah blah blah.


first. stop haypro bashing.
haypro is the man.


and guess what? TL didnt invite all thier own players.


TLO anyone?


doesnt it seem like maybe server connection drove invites? as in they couldnt play in NA/Euro events, so lets give them a shot?


i mean im super hyped about the top of the korean scene playing in this TSL, but being a fan of foreigner players(and a liquid fan), i really want to see the liquid players that are in korea, and havent had the opportunity to really play in events outside of korea.

im pretty sure that if haypro, huk and ret were in NA/EU they would have had to qualify just like TLO did (tyler didnt have to cause hes ballin and won the whole thing last time)


...TLO has to qualify he doesnt play on the Korean/chinese servers or w/e
i still dont feel like haypro warrants an invite but i dont believe they are just inviting their own players, they have invited the best there is at the moment. there are certaintly better players than haypro to invite he was not even code A.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
February 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#417
I cheer for both Mondragon and Fruitdealer. Mondragon needs to further comment, he is just so experienced.

I think, Fruitdealer's win of the first GSL is still the most impressive feat in SC2 pro gaming yet. He did not just crush the opponents. He outclassed them. He turned a perceived disadvantage into the key of securing the win. His mutas were everywhere right in time, like he had a maphack.

In GSL1 he showed us that skill is more important than balance. His achievement prevented many zerg players from abandoning their race.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
February 14 2011 10:06 GMT
#418
On February 14 2011 09:02 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 08:09 Lambertus wrote:
Some posts earlier "corddan" asked an interesting question and i would like to repeat it in hope of an answer of someone who knows more:

how was the attendance in the last TSLs? how many viewers were on live stream ?

You have to understand that BW wasn't as big as SC2, but I believe the TSL1 finals peaked around 12000 and the TSL2 finals around 25000. I could be remembering wrong. At that time we didn't have streaming websites - TL hosted the mms streams directly themselves.


Thanks for the answer! and the mms-streams I remember well :D

Quite interesting thou, we ' ll see how TSL3 will do...hopefully we will break new records of live viewers! My guess are 30k or more. you heard it here first
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
February 14 2011 10:12 GMT
#419
oh and pls Mods ord Admins, could you Post a big sticky somewhere all over the TL-Site about the freakin RULES and how the KOREANS-Players have to be invited? Man, this discussion so sucks! Lets talk about interesting stuff like Terran-invites or brackets!
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
February 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#420
On February 14 2011 14:05 Mr.Ch4rms wrote:
lol whats so funny is that everyones like "oh TL just invited all thier own players" blah blah blah.


first. stop haypro bashing.
haypro is the man.


and guess what? TL didnt invite all thier own players.


TLO anyone?


doesnt it seem like maybe server connection drove invites? as in they couldnt play in NA/Euro events, so lets give them a shot?


i mean im super hyped about the top of the korean scene playing in this TSL, but being a fan of foreigner players(and a liquid fan), i really want to see the liquid players that are in korea, and havent had the opportunity to really play in events outside of korea.

im pretty sure that if haypro, huk and ret were in NA/EU they would have had to qualify just like TLO did (tyler didnt have to cause hes ballin and won the whole thing last time)


I think you have it backwards.

If TLO and Tyler weren't on NA/EU servers and didn't qualify otherwise -- and if they were in Korea like their teammates -- I'm sure they'd get a free pass into the tournament as well.

That being said, I'm past my initial HayprO-hate. It's their tournament and they can do whatever they want and... there's nothing really wrong with that.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 10:35:49
February 14 2011 10:34 GMT
#421
I've got mixed feelings about Boxer and Nada being the potential 4th and 5th's outside of MVP, MKP, Jinro. Boxer always impresses me with the freshness of his play, even when he loses and Nada is a good terran but...

I don't know. As much as the excitement side of me, ex-bw kid wants to see Nada and Boxer play another side would also like to see oGsTop, aLive, or Clyde. I guess I'm torn as to feeling that these two are actually the best next 2 terrans in the korean scene atm. Feels alot harder for all the races once you go past MC for toss, MKP,MVP for terran and Nestea, Idra, Fruitdealer for zerg. And even this doesn't seem certain in some cases.
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Bellygareth
Profile Joined October 2010
France512 Posts
February 14 2011 11:02 GMT
#422
That's probably the best invites possible. That will provide very interesting matchs and hype! hype! hype!

Ahaha now I can't wait for the TSL main event to start!
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 14 2011 12:20 GMT
#423
I fully expect Haypro to smash Fruitdealer
i got blisters on me fingers
Silahsor
Profile Joined January 2011
Turkey59 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 14:01:12
February 14 2011 12:50 GMT
#424
I am afraid Haypro is not there yet to be amongst top 5. Morrow, Dimaga, July or LosirA might be a better pick.

User was warned for this post. Read the topic and inform yourself.
dwillow
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic88 Posts
February 14 2011 13:02 GMT
#425
Lol i c IMMvP as terran invitie ... that wud be like another gsl
"Cause there's one thing i know.....some things r just worth fightin' for!!!!"
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 14:45:10
February 14 2011 13:16 GMT
#426
On February 14 2011 21:50 Silahsor wrote:
I am afraid Haypro is not there yet to be amongst top 5. Morrow, Dimaga, July or LosirA might be a better pick.

dude read the thread. Dimaga's excluded from this tsl for his ladder abuse last tsl. Morrow is competing through the TLOpens and these invites are for those from Korea.

edit: whoops, typo
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crazynarutard
Profile Joined August 2010
Suriname44 Posts
February 14 2011 14:40 GMT
#427
Do people really want Boxer and Nada over some of the other terrans out there? I understand that they're SC1 legends but they haven't been performing that well in SC2 so far. Why not have other terrans who are currently performing better, like: bomber, top or stc.
I do agree that jinro, mvp and mkp are must-invites
Burn2Memory
Profile Joined August 2010
United States574 Posts
February 14 2011 14:40 GMT
#428

On February 14 2011 14:05 Mr.Ch4rms wrote:

I think you have it backwards.

If TLO and Tyler weren't on NA/EU servers and didn't qualify otherwise -- and if they were in Korea like their teammates -- I'm sure they'd get a free pass into the tournament as well.

That being said, I'm past my initial HayprO-hate. It's their tournament and they can do whatever they want and... there's nothing really wrong with that.


Yea it's their own tournament, but it really makes the player pool a lot weaker if they are inviting their own team instead of more deserving players imo.

Korean players who have out performed haypro and did not recieve an invite:
oGsZenio
ImJunwi
Golden
NewDawn
Monster
Leenock
July
Check
JooktoJung
Moon
TheWind
Phoenix
Kyrix
Terious
Yugioh
Cezanne

I dunno about the rest of you, but seeing a player like Haypro get an invite over somone like July, Leenock, Zenio, or Check really dissapoints me.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 15:32:46
February 14 2011 15:32 GMT
#429
July and Zenio are definitely more qualified contenders, but it is a TL event, and they can invite whoever they want, such is life.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 14 2011 15:36 GMT
#430
To clarify, people are not being warned for posting about Haypro. They are being warned for not informing themselves properly of what the TSL invites are - an invite JUST for players on the Asian servers - not players from EU or NA.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
MDMA_
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada265 Posts
February 14 2011 17:17 GMT
#431
well its a TL tournament they CAN invite whoever they want
but haypro just hasnt preformed so far and thats just my opinion. He was invited into code A, ret made it and even though Huk was also invited into code A, he has like two accounts in top 10 korean ladder. There are plenty other zergs in code s/a that are more deserving but i do sort of agree TL inviting their own players i mean someone has to give them a chance/support them
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
February 14 2011 17:29 GMT
#432
On February 14 2011 23:40 Burn2Memory wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 14:05 Mr.Ch4rms wrote:

I think you have it backwards.

If TLO and Tyler weren't on NA/EU servers and didn't qualify otherwise -- and if they were in Korea like their teammates -- I'm sure they'd get a free pass into the tournament as well.

That being said, I'm past my initial HayprO-hate. It's their tournament and they can do whatever they want and... there's nothing really wrong with that.


Yea it's their own tournament, but it really makes the player pool a lot weaker if they are inviting their own team instead of more deserving players imo.

Korean players who have out performed haypro and did not recieve an invite:
oGsZenio
ImJunwi
Golden
NewDawn
Monster
Leenock
July
Check
JooktoJung
Moon
TheWind
Phoenix
Kyrix
Terious
Yugioh
Cezanne

I dunno about the rest of you, but seeing a player like Haypro get an invite over somone like July, Leenock, Zenio, or Check really dissapoints me.

Inviting one player of indeterminate, but high, quality into a pool of 32 players makes the whole player pool a lot weaker? That seems like a gross exaggeration. Or are you suggesting that HuK, Ret, and probably Jinro, don't deserve their spots either? That's the problem, you can't argue that TL is weakening the player pool by a lot with just one invitation, so you say they are inviting their whole team. But, the other invitees are all obvious choices, so you focus on Haypro's.

And to be sure, the only people who really know how good Haypro is have invited him to this tournament, seeing as none of us have really seen him play recently. The only tournaments that Haypro has played in he's done well in, and if we look at TL (as a team's) track record, I have faith that Haypro is going to kick ass as well. No-one knew about Jinro, he stayed in Korea, practised his ass off, went to MLG and won the tournament. Since then he's become a household name. No-one rated Ret that highly after his troubles in the last GSL and he just won Assembly in one of the most difficult tournaments we've seen to date. Even HuK, who didn't win Assembly, is rumoured to be incredibly strong at the moment, and he certainly looked good in Assembly. People underestimate the effects of living in a pro-house and practising in a Korean environment 24/7. No-one who's done it for an extended period of time has failed to impress yet, Haypro just hasn't been given the opportunity to do so.

With all this said, I really don't see how think inviting Haypro is a bad idea. No-one knows how he's going to perform, no-one knows how anyone is going to perform in a tournament as stacked as the TSL, but I'm dead certain Haypro won't make the player pool weaker. And as Drone mentioned, there's no way TL could have not invited him. The only reason he is unable to qualify via TL Opens is because he's gone to Korea to represent TL. Leaving him off of the roster for such a big tournament would be a major slap in the face, especially given his dedication and talent.
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TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
February 14 2011 18:40 GMT
#433
TSL, Ret, Nestea, and Frootdeelurz???

I fainted.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 14 2011 18:47 GMT
#434
On February 14 2011 23:40 Burn2Memory wrote:
I dunno about the rest of you, but seeing a player like Haypro get an invite over somone like July, Leenock, Zenio, or Check really dissapoints me.


Whereas I would have loved to see July get an invite and I rate Zenio highly, Leenock and Check are generally overrated and I definitely don't see much of a difference between them and Haypro. In fact, from all the games I've seen, I would say Haypro is an overall better player than Check, and not a lot (if at all) worse than Leenock right now.

The thing is, people will just look at Code S/A brackets, see some names, and automatically decide something like "player A qualified for GSL, player B didn't, hence player A is genuinely better", which makes no sense at all right now because the scene is just shaping up. Going by that logic, you'd end up inviting people like choya and Rain.

Qualifiers are sick hard to get through and there's probably a dozen great players that either didn't make it to Code A or just qualified for the first time, as we could see in the GSTL recently. I'm pretty sure that if we had all the Code S players go through qualifiers again, at least a third of them wouldn't ever make it back to Code S again.

There's quite simply not that much that separates Haypro skill-wise from those other Zergs that didn't get invited. And when it's a close call like that, it makes sense for him to get invited in a TL-ran event.

raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 19:08:38
February 14 2011 18:51 GMT
#435
I personally wouldn't want Boxer or Nada to be invited right now . And to be frank i would be really dissapointed if they get invited , because JulyZerg did not get invited . Otherwise i would have loved to see any of the players i mentioned above duke it out against the foreigners .
Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
February 14 2011 19:22 GMT
#436
goodluck ret and haypro!
Team LiquidPoorUser
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 14 2011 19:49 GMT
#437
I agree with some of the hate on the HayprO decision, but most of that comes from not having seen him play in quite some time. Same goes with Ret - I know he's a great player, and a solid zerg (last I knew, he was actually altogether too "solid" and standard) but I haven't seen him play recently, I don't know how he's performing. ST_July is currently playing better than fruitdealer. Kyrix is a fantastic player, and IMJunwi is nothing to sneeze at. While I can certainly see that Ret and HayprO (and fruitdealer) will provide some great games, I'm not sure if I would like to see Kyrix or junwi instead - and I would go so far as to say that I would trade any player who has so far qualified/been invited, with the exceptions of Nestea, IdrA, and oGsMC to see ST_july here.

As far as the terran invites are going to go...
IMMvP
MarinekingPrime
Liquid'Jinro
?
?

I'd really like to see Clide, Rainbow, or ST_bomber in this. Bomber missed out on Code A this time around, so we won't be seeing him for a while, but we know he's a beastly player. I suppose the obvious choice is to put Nada and Boxer in there, but I'm not sure how I feel about the selection. I'm torn - we shall have to see when the terran invites are released!
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 14 2011 19:57 GMT
#438
Haypro seems like the weakest out of that group mostly because his games in GSL were mostly disappointing although I'm sure he's better than most of the international players that have qualified so far. Would have liked to see zenio or kyrix invited. Haypro will do well as long as he doesn't go against an agreesive terran or korean in the first round. But this is the liquid tournament, and I fully support adding haypro to the invites for it.

To speculate on terrans,

Jinro
MVP
MKP
Top
Nada

are my top choices based on performance. They might add boxer since he's a big name or possibly thestc even though he isn't in gsl yet.
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xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 20:31:00
February 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#439
On February 15 2011 02:29 Daigomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 23:40 Burn2Memory wrote:

On February 14 2011 14:05 Mr.Ch4rms wrote:

I think you have it backwards.

If TLO and Tyler weren't on NA/EU servers and didn't qualify otherwise -- and if they were in Korea like their teammates -- I'm sure they'd get a free pass into the tournament as well.

That being said, I'm past my initial HayprO-hate. It's their tournament and they can do whatever they want and... there's nothing really wrong with that.


Yea it's their own tournament, but it really makes the player pool a lot weaker if they are inviting their own team instead of more deserving players imo.

Korean players who have out performed haypro and did not recieve an invite:
oGsZenio
ImJunwi
Golden
NewDawn
Monster
Leenock
July
Check
JooktoJung
Moon
TheWind
Phoenix
Kyrix
Terious
Yugioh
Cezanne

I dunno about the rest of you, but seeing a player like Haypro get an invite over somone like July, Leenock, Zenio, or Check really dissapoints me.

Inviting one player of indeterminate, but high, quality into a pool of 32 players makes the whole player pool a lot weaker? That seems like a gross exaggeration. Or are you suggesting that HuK, Ret, and probably Jinro, don't deserve their spots either? That's the problem, you can't argue that TL is weakening the player pool by a lot with just one invitation, so you say they are inviting their whole team. But, the other invitees are all obvious choices, so you focus on Haypro's.

And to be sure, the only people who really know how good Haypro is have invited him to this tournament, seeing as none of us have really seen him play recently. The only tournaments that Haypro has played in he's done well in, and if we look at TL (as a team's) track record, I have faith that Haypro is going to kick ass as well. No-one knew about Jinro, he stayed in Korea, practised his ass off, went to MLG and won the tournament. Since then he's become a household name. No-one rated Ret that highly after his troubles in the last GSL and he just won Assembly in one of the most difficult tournaments we've seen to date. Even HuK, who didn't win Assembly, is rumoured to be incredibly strong at the moment, and he certainly looked good in Assembly. People underestimate the effects of living in a pro-house and practising in a Korean environment 24/7. No-one who's done it for an extended period of time has failed to impress yet, Haypro just hasn't been given the opportunity to do so.

With all this said, I really don't see how think inviting Haypro is a bad idea. No-one knows how he's going to perform, no-one knows how anyone is going to perform in a tournament as stacked as the TSL, but I'm dead certain Haypro won't make the player pool weaker. And as Drone mentioned, there's no way TL could have not invited him. The only reason he is unable to qualify via TL Opens is because he's gone to Korea to represent TL. Leaving him off of the roster for such a big tournament would be a major slap in the face, especially given his dedication and talent.



The problem is if Jinro gets the invite noone is going to complain because he accomplished the most of all foreigners in sc2 then got the invite. Huk took first in MLG the biggest US tourny and consistently stayed at top 10 of US ladder for the longest period of time.Ret made top 32 losing in a very close 3 games which could have gone either way. He showed his macro power crushing his round of 64 player even a toss on jungle basin. He recently got first against the best European+American at Assembly.

Haypro got steamrolled by bitbybitprime and won a few team leagues games. Do I want to him to get to Code S and own it up? Hell yea! But do I think he deserves the invite over proven better players(oGsZenio or Kyrix or july) or more influential players(god of freaken war)? Nope.As I said before, new and upcoming players will not make TSL worse. I mean Haypro is probably better than some of the new player that qualified through qualifiers. But being an invitee to a tourney changes that and changes the standard. People don't look through an invitee list and think "meh, I heard of him before but he might do well but we aren't sure yet because well......"
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
February 14 2011 21:14 GMT
#440
haha I wonder who terran invites are. and toss wouldn't mind more invitee as there are +2 zergs in comparison ^^
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 21:45:23
February 14 2011 21:31 GMT
#441
On February 15 2011 02:29 Daigomi wrote:
I'm dead certain Haypro won't make the player pool weaker. And as Drone mentioned, there's no way TL could have not invited him. The only reason he is unable to qualify via TL Opens is because he's gone to Korea to represent TL. Leaving him off of the roster for such a big tournament would be a major slap in the face, especially given his dedication and talent.


As someone who had nothing to do with the invites, I do not think this was stressed enough.

Imagine if you were in charge of liquid. You ask a player to move halfway across the world from Sweden to compete at the highest level in Korea. By doing so, you inherently say "I think you are one of the best. I see promise. I believe in you." Then you start the biggest online SC2 tournament in the world with a rule that Korean server players cannot compete in qualifications. This means he cannot qualify when he could have otherwise in Sweden. After that, can you REALLY not invite him given all the sacrifices, dedication, and hard work he's put into the game based on decisions you recommended for his career? It just was not happening. And if it did, there would be some major credibility problems within Liquid for how they treat and take care of their own players. It does not make sense to screw over one of your own like that after saying you believe in their talent and after the life changing commitment he made to the team based on your recommendation. This is especially so because the TSL has historically been a tournament for the foreigner scene until now.

All that said, Haypro's the man and he's more than good enough to be invited. All the haters just made me into a Haypro fanboy. Show 'em up Hayder.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 22:28:42
February 14 2011 22:22 GMT
#442
On February 15 2011 06:31 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 02:29 Daigomi wrote:
I'm dead certain Haypro won't make the player pool weaker. And as Drone mentioned, there's no way TL could have not invited him. The only reason he is unable to qualify via TL Opens is because he's gone to Korea to represent TL. Leaving him off of the roster for such a big tournament would be a major slap in the face, especially given his dedication and talent.


As someone who had nothing to do with the invites, I do not think this was stressed enough.

Imagine if you were in charge of liquid. You ask a player to move halfway across the world from Sweden to compete at the highest level in Korea. By doing so, you inherently say "I think you are one of the best. I see promise. I believe in you." Then you start the biggest online SC2 tournament in the world with a rule that Korean server players cannot compete in qualifications. This means he cannot qualify when he could have otherwise in Sweden. After that, can you REALLY not invite him given all the sacrifices, dedication, and hard work he's put into the game based on decisions you recommended for his career? It just was not happening. And if it did, there would be some major credibility problems within Liquid for how they treat and take care of their own players. It does not make sense to screw over one of your own like that after saying you believe in their talent and after the life changing commitment he made to the team based on your recommendation. This is especially so because the TSL has historically been a tournament for the foreigner scene until now.

All that said, Haypro's the man and he's more than good enough to be invited. All the haters just made me into a Haypro fanboy. Show 'em up Hayder.


You bring up a valid point. I stated in an earlier post that TL is free to invite whoever as it is their tournament, and I wasn't going to say something directed toward Haypro since I did not know all the circumstances. I think the concern is since the Korean Ladder cannot be used to qualify, we're missing out on a ton of potentially amazing players. I don't have a problem with Haypro getting the invite. I have a problem with players like St_July and OGsZenio not getting invited.

Edit: I think a lot of people are upset because they see the situation as because Haypro got the invite these other players cannot and did not get one.
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
February 14 2011 22:57 GMT
#443
This is going to be the most exciting TSL yet. And last years was pretty freaking amazing. Does anyone know if the replays will be posted of all of these games afterwards? It would be amazing to study them and learn some strategies and techniques.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 23:39:33
February 14 2011 23:38 GMT
#444
me thinks people watched haypro in round of 64 and never anything else...


haypro is a monster and more than deserving this invite. please name a zerg who is better than him that isn't on the invite list as well....


Edit: I see some people saying July... while July packs starpower HayprO is a fundamentally better sc2 player than July, hurts to say but it's the truth. Go watch some replays.
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xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
February 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#445
On February 15 2011 08:38 crms wrote:
me thinks people watched haypro in round of 64 and never anything else...


haypro is a monster and more than deserving this invite. please name a zerg who is better than him that isn't on the invite list as well....


Edit: I see some people saying July... while July packs starpower HayprO is a fundamentally better sc2 player than July, hurts to say but it's the truth. Go watch some replays.



You do know julyzerg is a much stronger zerg. He is right now in code S. He made is to round of 16 losing the oGsMC when people considered MC to not be able to lose anyone in the game. I don't think haypro can take a game off MC at that time. Not only that it was a good series not a walkover. It was 2-1 and last game was a nail biter until a micro mistake that got his roaches caught in middle of nowhere against blink stalkers. July has taken down top sc2 pros in the teamleague. He is proven to be a monster at the moment. I wouldnt put him too behind idra if they aren't the same level already.

Zenio as many have said is also probably a better zerg. The guy is consistent and good. He took out idra and even though its a zvz that is no easy feat. This guy is the only zerg who literraly rolled MVP. He got knocked out of in code S by Tester. He lost in GSL S2 by losing to Nestea who later won it. He qualified for all the starleague so he is at least as consistent as Idra.

Im not sure if you really want to compare accomplishment because Haypro is no where near as accomplished as either of the two.

Now I agree with the guy above me(or a few guys above me). Most people aren't upset that Haypro got the invite. But the fact that he got it over Julyzerg or oGsZenio or Kyrix seems wrong.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
February 15 2011 04:28 GMT
#446
If haypro got invited, would have loved to see Monglade invited by that same logic. That said however, this is panning out to be THE sc2 event of 2011 thus far.
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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
February 15 2011 06:14 GMT
#447
holy crap beastly zergs incoming... TSL keeps looking better and better! cant wait to see what T are invited
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elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
February 15 2011 07:30 GMT
#448
So for my question as to what maps are being used for the tourney? which maps are you guys using for the tourney?
this mah s#$%$
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
February 15 2011 09:48 GMT
#449
i hope oGs.TOP or oGs.TheSTC get invited as well, both are tremendously skilled
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 15 2011 11:31 GMT
#450
On February 15 2011 16:30 elementz wrote:
So for my question as to what maps are being used for the tourney? which maps are you guys using for the tourney?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191682
5 or 6 of the maps from those 8
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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
February 15 2011 15:13 GMT
#451
Just the fact that this tournament will have awesome maps makes me absolute confident this tournament will be the best outside of GSL. Both in terms of exciting new strategies and execution.

NesTea will obviously go to the final, unless MVP is invited and meets him first.

Maybe I'm just a biased Zerg player, who believes the reason Zerg is so hard to play in tournaments, is because often the other player can force the game to be played on completely imba maps like Jungle, Steppes and DQ. So glad TSL don't have any of that shit.
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x2mirko
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany245 Posts
February 15 2011 15:22 GMT
#452
That is simply amazing. Looking forward to watching this. I am excite!
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
February 15 2011 16:35 GMT
#453
Jinro
Mvp
Marine king
Boxer
Nada

Calling it now... tsl is gonna kick ass
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
February 15 2011 17:32 GMT
#454
jeez, this TSL gonna be AMAZING!

//tx
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 15 2011 18:08 GMT
#455
Placement in GSL means nothing unless it's consistent and identifiable; just qualifying for Code S depends on the luck of matchups as well as skill. The outcome of matchups means nothing by itself, unless you guys concede that choya is better than MVP (he "rolled" MVP 2-0 in GSL3) and is almost comparable to Jinro (he lost 3-2 in Ro16). But no one thinks that. And for all of MVP's hype, no one was talking about him like this before Gisado's Challenge. He didn't magically become the best Terran in the world overnight either.

The fact is we haven't seen enough of Haypro to judge his fundamentals, or how he reacts under pressure, or the strength of his late-game. Your doubts may or may not be justified once we see him play, but for now hold your criticism.
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xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 18:37:38
February 15 2011 18:36 GMT
#456
On February 16 2011 03:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Placement in GSL means nothing unless it's consistent and identifiable; just qualifying for Code S depends on the luck of matchups as well as skill. The outcome of matchups means nothing by itself, unless you guys concede that choya is better than MVP (he "rolled" MVP 2-0 in GSL3) and is almost comparable to Jinro (he lost 3-2 in Ro16). But no one thinks that. And for all of MVP's hype, no one was talking about him like this before Gisado's Challenge. He didn't magically become the best Terran in the world overnight either.

The fact is we haven't seen enough of Haypro to judge his fundamentals, or how he reacts under pressure, or the strength of his late-game. Your doubts may or may not be justified once we see him play, but for now hold your criticism.



Choya isn't weak he is definitely one of the top protoss at the moment. He made to and stayed in code S proves a lot. He lost season 3 at the hands of Jinro in a close 3-2 match at the quarterfinals. Im saying from his games, you can easily see he can compete with the top. He tries to play mind games by attempting to fake expand then cancel. He took down MVP in a series. I mean anyone can take down MVP in a BO-1 but doing it in a series is so much harder.

Noone said Zenio is better than MVP so I don't see how you could draw a conclusion that Choya is. Being able to beat/compete with the best is definitely what i look for in a good player. I mean if Haypro fell to SCV rush of BitbyBit what if MVP or Jinro SCV rush him with them having better micro and game sense.

The fact is we did see how he folded under pressure/weak judgmenet. Round of 64 of GSL 3 is an obivous indicator. He lost plain to two straight scv all in. Now you can say those are imba, but an out of shape fruitdealer shut down the same type of SCV all-in with ease.

The main thing I feel is that TSL is like pitting some of the best online newcomers against all-stars of the game. When you get invited, I don't want to hope to see something good. I never need to hope to see MC crush terran nubs who mass marauders. I know he is going to do it.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 15 2011 18:59 GMT
#457
On February 14 2011 21:50 Silahsor wrote:
I am afraid Haypro is not there yet to be amongst top 5. Morrow, Dimaga, July or LosirA might be a better pick.

User was warned for this post. Read the topic and inform yourself.



On February 15 2011 00:36 Plexa wrote:
To clarify, people are not being warned for posting about Haypro. They are being warned for not informing themselves properly of what the TSL invites are - an invite JUST for players on the Asian servers - not players from EU or NA.


:o



Anyways, really looking forward to the tournament,
especially how the top non-koreans around the world compete with the top people living in Korea,
since several players already said that in SC2 the skill gap is not that big or even non-existant.

There was a thread on readmore on how all the tournaments in SC2 are so similar,
always the same system and even always the same players.
While the TLopen won't change much on the good old system,
mixing up the top players from all around the world definitely is incredibly refreshing.

GO HUK!
lkjewq
Profile Joined November 2010
United States132 Posts
February 15 2011 20:32 GMT
#458
Really disliking the Haypro invite. Personally I feel that Kyrix or July would have been a better invite with Kyrix being the less biased of the two (GSL All Stars). Although we DO NOT know which players were invited and declined.

I really hope the ro32 is mostly TL Open Qualifiers vs Invites. I would hate to see Invite vs Invite kills early on.
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
February 15 2011 22:17 GMT
#459
HOOOOO yeah sooo legit.... this is the esports equivalent of an allstar skills comp
Micro your Macro
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 01:37:33
February 16 2011 01:35 GMT
#460
On February 15 2011 13:28 Gentleman7 wrote:
If haypro got invited, would have loved to see Monglade invited by that same logic. That said however, this is panning out to be THE sc2 event of 2011 thus far.

How would that be using the same logic? Moonglade hasn't even proven himself to be good player yet and is not involved with Team Liquid whatsoever (He's on FXO)

The main point is Hayder is on Team Liquid and is not allowed to qualify.

And Haypro is a GREAT player, he qualified for GSL in less tries than Jinro, and he only got beat by the BitbyBit himself in Ro64, so he has yet to even be able to prove himself yet people are saying he is bad....great
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 16 2011 02:16 GMT
#461
I do want to take back what I said originally. I thought that there were 14 invites for TSL not 13, so I figured there would be 6 terrans instead of 5 (whom I will just assume with ZERO evidence, is going to be Nada, Boxer, MKP, MVP, Jinro). So originally I thought a 'random' 6th terran would have been thrown in, thus my point that Haypro could have been taking away a spot from Moonglade.

While I do think Moonglade deserves it moreso than haypro as a player, I think Haypro also deserves to be invited, since like it was mentioned earlier, he shouldn't have zero chance at qualification just because he plays in Korea. He is a member of teamliquid so it only makes sense, but it is unfortunate that instead of haypro not having a chance at qualification, its moonglade who now has no chance to qualify unless he plays through the lag in the last few qualifiers.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 16 2011 02:51 GMT
#462
Thing about MoonGlade is I would love to see him in there, but he did have a few shots at qualification as we did not ban him from playing from the SEA servers before he moved to Korea. And if I'm correct, he was playing in the SEA servers back then.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
February 16 2011 03:01 GMT
#463
What makes Moonglade better than Haypro? I think giving Moonglade a spot would be much, much worse because he would be taking the spot away from a Korean who is much better and Moonglade isn't on Team Liquid, and Moonglade has had chances to qualify. Both Moonglade and Haypro have had barely any tournament results except for winning IEM in SEA, the weakest server and beating ONE GSL player in Loner.... only one.

TL;DR if it wasn't Hapyro getting the fourth spot it would not be Moonglade
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sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
February 16 2011 04:01 GMT
#464
wooooo, this is going to be awesome, i cant wait to see the terran invites :D!
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MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
February 16 2011 04:45 GMT
#465
THIS IS GONNA BE SO INCREDIBLY TENSE. I'M EXCITED. IDRA FIGHTING
Elegance, in all things.
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
February 16 2011 05:54 GMT
#466
On February 16 2011 10:35 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 13:28 Gentleman7 wrote:
If haypro got invited, would have loved to see Monglade invited by that same logic. That said however, this is panning out to be THE sc2 event of 2011 thus far.

How would that be using the same logic? Moonglade hasn't even proven himself to be good player yet and is not involved with Team Liquid whatsoever (He's on FXO)

The main point is Hayder is on Team Liquid and is not allowed to qualify.

And Haypro is a GREAT player, he qualified for GSL in less tries than Jinro, and he only got beat by the BitbyBit himself in Ro64, so he has yet to even be able to prove himself yet people are saying he is bad....great



making it in less tries means very little. Jinro made top 4 twice in GSL and won a MLG I think that is enough to show he is a stronger player despite taking more tries.

Also no1 said he is bad. Im just saying he isn't as good as other zergs like july, kyrix, and zenio. As we all said we all love Haypro but the fact that people who don't agree with the pick is if he got picked over better zergs just because he is in liquid.
titan_tase
Profile Joined November 2010
Cyprus17 Posts
February 16 2011 10:25 GMT
#467
I played vs MoonGlade a few TL qualifiers back on the EU server, so he tried to qualify and failed, lost to Ciara in that TL open so I guess he can still use his EU account next TL open to try to qualify again(and I hope I don't run into him again )
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
February 16 2011 11:49 GMT
#468
Wow wow wow wow
This is going to be the best TSL ever.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 13:49:32
February 16 2011 13:47 GMT
#469
On February 16 2011 10:35 Kazzabiss wrote:
How would that be using the same logic? Moonglade hasn't even proven himself to be good player yet and is not involved with Team Liquid whatsoever (He's on FXO)


I feel like I have to point this out, considering you are trying to debunk Moonglade, but he is the more accomplished player in SC2 compared to Hayder at the moment. Will this change anything? No. Just wanted to point that out. I haven't seen any of Hayder's practice matches recently, so I really cannot comment on his play other than the few European tournaments in which I've seen him in.

With that said, he has some of the best practice partners at the moment. It really comes down to showtime and if he can keep his nerves in check. We'll have to wait and see. Will he make it through the ro32? Possibly. I think an accomplishment in itself for him would be ro16 or even ro8 depending on the brackets. I won't be shocked when we get 1 Korean in the top 4.
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 17:21:59
February 16 2011 17:21 GMT
#470
I love all these players. Every replay I have seen with them is sooo good...!
I cant wait to see these TSL games!
Serenity
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
February 17 2011 07:02 GMT
#471
dear lordie.. there will be epic games... epic games everywhere
*rawr* d(^_^d)
kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
February 17 2011 18:13 GMT
#472
The difference between Haypro and the rest of the TL invites is that Haypro really has no achievements whatsoever. He got knocked out early at every tournament he's been to; MLG, GSL, even most of the random EU tournaments he went to with TLO. He won one of those, thats nice, but that shouldn't be enough to justify an invite. And unlike the rest of liquid he has no presence on the ladder (minus Jinro, for obvious reasons).

Even if Haypro pulls off a Jinro and wows everyone that still doesn't justify an invite. Pre-MLG Dallas Jinro didn't justify an invite either. Even then, pre-MLG Jinro had accomplished more than Haypro by making it on ogs' A team; as far as I know haypro's been b-team material for the past year now. I'm not saying he's bad, I'm just saying that he's not in the same league with all the other invites. And it's disappointing that a lot of other more promising Zergs were passed over.
IronWolf
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
South Africa315 Posts
February 17 2011 20:05 GMT
#473
NESTEA in TSL?!?!!!!! holy crap

Great news, this is going to be epic
Skytalker
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden671 Posts
February 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#474
I got no problem with haypro getting invited, but I think it just would have looked better if TL at the start had just announced that all TL-players was going to play.
Jaedong HWAITING!
rampaeg
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 15:16:22
February 28 2011 15:07 GMT
#475
On February 14 2011 03:55 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 03:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 14 2011 02:52 rampaeg wrote:

"If you asked the question who is the best Zerg player in the world' there is little doubt that the Answer would be (Z)NesTea."

i think it is supposed to be: I think there is little doubt that the answer WOULDNT be (Z)NesTea.


your tlpd's point towards his bw stats, which indeed are not impressive.

but look at his sc2 stats
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/29_NesTea
or the sc2 ELO rank (http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/?tabulator_search=&auto_redirect=1), where he's far, far ahead of other zergs..

lol i cant believe you even responded to this guy haha


I was just pointing out what i thought to be a typo. -__-
I was saying that you needed a correction to say "there is little doubt the answer wouldn't be NesTea" since he IS arguably the best zerg. As it stood it said there was "little doubt the answer would be Nestea"...meaning he wasn't the best zerg.
Terkill
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark38 Posts
March 02 2011 16:56 GMT
#476
Can you watch TSL on TeamLiquid.net?
You're pro or you're noob. That's life
KinQuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland810 Posts
March 02 2011 19:04 GMT
#477
On March 03 2011 01:56 Terkill wrote:
Can you watch TSL on TeamLiquid.net?


Yeah this i would also like to know.
Holy check.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 02:34:34
March 03 2011 02:34 GMT
#478
Yes, the tiebreaker for the final qualifier spot and the bracket show will be this weekend. You can check in here at TL in the future for the broadcasting schedule and eventually the streams.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 04:30:47
March 03 2011 04:30 GMT
#479
On February 16 2011 12:01 Kazzabiss wrote:
What makes Moonglade better than Haypro?


Really? I've watched very many replays...HayprO is definitely way behind Moonglade IMO


EDIT: NesTea in this... <33333333333 My favorite player, come on man!!!
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Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
March 05 2011 07:22 GMT
#480
Haypro shouldn't have been invited >.<....
It would be cool if he could have qualified, cause I like him and root for him, but he's not nearly good enough to be an invite IMO.
Neither is FruitDealer really... but FruitDealer is just such a badass that I like that invite anyways ;D
I hope he improves and really does well in this tourny.
GL HF all
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