EPTPoll: Favourite TSL2 Caster?
(Vote): Nick "Tasteless" Plott
(Vote): Sean "Day[9]" Plott
(Vote): Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski
(Vote): Blake "Chill" Muzar
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[Poll] Favourite caster?
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
Poll: Favourite TSL2 Caster? (Vote): Nick "Tasteless" Plott (Vote): Sean "Day[9]" Plott (Vote): Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski (Vote): Blake "Chill" Muzar + Show Spoiler [DRAMA] + | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
2. Artosis 3. Tasteless 4. Chill | ||
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Kwidowmaker
Canada978 Posts
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FlamyDeath
Netherlands146 Posts
However I do love them all. | ||
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Sauron
Romania169 Posts
2.Day[9] 3.Chill 4.Artosis | ||
Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
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Macavenger
United States1132 Posts
On February 08 2010 12:12 HazMat wrote: 1. DAy9 2. Artosis 3. Tasteless 4. Chill This, although they're all awesome and the differences between them are very very small. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
Seriously, they are all the best. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
2. Tasteless 3. Artosis 4. Chill | ||
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jgju
United States454 Posts
that said: 1. Dill 2. Artasteless 3. Tastosis 4. Chill[9] | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
2. Tasteless 3. Day[9] 4. Artosis i honestly like chill above the rest (the others are pretty even). Dry humor? who cares. He's smart and i like his style. | ||
Waxangel
United States33388 Posts
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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xellow
United States15 Posts
I would vote for Day[9] but I feel obligated to vote for Tasteless since his commentary kept me interested when I first stumbled across the scene. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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Ranix
United States666 Posts
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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ZZangDreamjOy
Canada959 Posts
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NeCroPoTeNce
United States513 Posts
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The-Dom
United States165 Posts
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meCh[dtr]
Canada111 Posts
Calgarians unite! | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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super_toast
United States269 Posts
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
Is it just me or has Tasteless seemed as though his energy level is much lower than usual lately? Edit: Could very well be this! On February 08 2010 14:15 David Mudkips wrote: I love their casts even if they aren't performing their best at 4 AM. | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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Delphi
Germany88 Posts
 so its a bit annoying by and bytasteless is really professional so really good day9 obv has a lot of knowdlege about the game but i dont like his voice that much since its also really reverberant on the stream (not his fault )chill imo is the best caster since he has really good game understanding and a nice sounding voice  chill gogo^^ | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
my vote goes to artosis easily, i can't even explain why | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Sc2ggRise
United States607 Posts
1. artosis 2. day & chill (tie, wombo combo style) 4. carnac i know what its like to cast at 4am (osl finals est coast time = t.t) but damn... couldn't understand what tasteless was talking about at any point in Ra vs kabal or jf vs terran. artosis gets #1 for keeping some sort of coherence through those series. i felt bad for carnac and thought he did a pretty good job of being camera man catching everything he could while "mathematical" jibberish was going on in the background. | ||
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tre2ettsexsju
Sweden248 Posts
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StarN
United States2587 Posts
On February 08 2010 14:10 Insane wrote: No offense to the others (they're all top level casters), but I really think Day is the best BW caster of all time. His knowledge of the game, ability to inject humor, and ability to switch casting roles seamlessly is really unparalleled. ![[image loading]](http://i50.tinypic.com/xpal2e.jpg) Kanye says it, so it must be true! | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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preacha
Norway210 Posts
and back to topic, go chill! | ||
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maitrecarotte
16 Posts
edit: Btw Day and Chill are much easier to understand with chobo-level English. Yeah, even when Day says million words per minute | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
I love all 4 though, the caster lineup for this TSL's just incredible. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
Chill Artosis Tasteless i hope day/chill will get the + Show Spoiler + nony/idra  | ||
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PluS
United States80 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10705 Posts
I don't know, Day/Chill just make the whole thing more fun, miss less things on the whole and seem to read most games better. I think Tasteless was the best Solo-Caster ever, to bad solocasts seem to be out of fashion... Artosis is best when whining about Protoss-Imba/Terran weakness and so on :p. | ||
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gaizka
United States991 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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rest_less
Germany142 Posts
2. Tasteless 3. Day9 4. Artosis | ||
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On February 08 2010 18:40 Twisted wrote: Day[9] 100% for me. Then Artosis/Chill, then Tasteless. I think Tasteless' casting sounds really forced lately. 100% agreed. | ||
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Insight
19 Posts
don't like artosis cause he's so shamelessly biased and has less game understanding then others | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On February 08 2010 19:15 Insight wrote: day9 by far, he's a natural don't like artosis cause he's so shamelessly biased and has less game understanding then others artosis has more game understanding than tasteless. by a large margin. edit - not meaning to bag on tasteless. i think tasteless is easily the most accessible out of the bunch. much of why i love day9 (far above the others) is that the information he talks about is at a really high level. For a newer player, most of that stuff will either go right over their head or they won't find it that interesting. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
On February 08 2010 19:15 Insight wrote: day9 by far, he's a natural don't like artosis cause he's so shamelessly biased and has less game understanding then others Lol what? The bias part is correct but it's part of his charm. But the comment about game understanding is absolute BS. -___- This poll is so hard though, like chosing between your own children (not that I have any, but also goes for puppies or whatever). | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
edit: Oh, but if I had to choose, Day9 would be my favorite | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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yarkO
Canada810 Posts
2) Chill 3) Power Outage 4) Artosis | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
1.Tasteless 2.Artosis 3.Day 4.Chill | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
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Prof. Protoss
Germany744 Posts
<3 peace and harmony  | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
voted for dan the man ofcourse, but all of these casters r just great :D during gomtv tasteless was by far, ok? by far the best commentator along with superdanielman but without his korean sidekick hes been slacking on the humor. funniest caster but he should give more effort in the tsl ^^ did he ran out of monkey milk? | ||
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Lesotho777 Posts
Artosis has a bias towards the wrong race and players so I don't like that either. (Like watching R.Federer on swiss TV, it just sucks) Chill seems to be off sometimes but handles that pretty good. Day[9] is correcting almost all the faults he makes immediately so he is the most solid caster for me. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Day9 for me.. | ||
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rredtooth
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FalliNinLove
Slovakia865 Posts
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prOxi.Beater
Denmark626 Posts
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EvilSky
Czech Republic548 Posts
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m8
Germany32 Posts
2. Tasteless 3. Chill 4. Artosis | ||
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m8
Germany32 Posts
On February 08 2010 20:00 MorroW wrote: sorry to break ur bubbles here but artosis knows by far more than day9 Artosis doesn't know shit. At least from what you hear in his commentaries. He is only bitching around about how awesome terran players are and how imbalanced protoss is. -------------------------------------------- User was warned for this post. Criticize in an appropriate manner next time. | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
After voting, I realised there were times throughout my progression as an avid Broodwar watcher that i'd vote for each of the casters as the best. When I first started out, Tasteless was easily the best of the four. His only rival in my mind was the ever crazy Klazart. Tasteless's rabid gibbering enthusiasm was great. I feel his commentary was aimed at everybody, it was very accessable and you could immediately get a feel for the game, even if you couldn't follow very well yourself. As my knowledge of the game gained further depth, I became more of a fan of Artosis and Chill. Especially during the previous TSL. Nowadays, I can't help but agree with Insane: On February 08 2010 14:10 Insane wrote: No offense to the others (they're all top level casters), but I really think Day is the best BW caster of all time. His knowledge of the game, ability to inject humor, and ability to switch casting roles seamlessly is really unparalleled. | ||
jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
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renchak
209 Posts
Also tastless doesnt seem to get excited anymore. Think it was during JF vs GosI[Terran] where JF's shuttle got intercepted while Tasteless was having a rant. He just ignored it and continued ranting. The "old" tasteless in the early GOM-seasons would have yelled and got major hyped. | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
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Deleted User 55994
949 Posts
as for the rest, i'd rather not say, making a 1-4 list would probably result in some people being offended~ chill says "oh my god" way too much though | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Day9 is my favorite, then Chill and Artosis draw On February 08 2010 22:52 faction123 wrote: tasteless has an amazing voice, gets my #1 for that reason alone This is strange, since always, even during the GSI and early GOM seasons when imo he was at his best, I've always disliked his voice. | ||
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ItsPaul
Australia177 Posts
Day on the otherhand has elaborate points, and this occassionally means while explaining the viablility of a build order, he can miss some action, or has to keep cutting himself off, which then makes the original explanation hard to follow. I find Artosis and Chill prolly vary between the two extremes, with Artosis doing a better role of a lead type caster and Chill doing a better role as the 'secondary' caster role. It's funny to me that Artosis and Tasteless who both feel like lead casters are on the same day, and chill and day are sharing a day when they both feel to me like the secondary role type of caster. by lead and secondary I mean the lead caster general keeps the pace of the game, explaining the more basic stuff and getting excited as frequent as possible, while the secondary caster's role is more by adding more indepth information to accentuate the leads summing up of basic action. I hope that makes sense, and yeah I think you all cast great. I ended up voting Tasteless purely because while I appreciate the deeper definitions, I want SC to be more publicly acceptable, and in that situation the dude going nuts and saying funny stuff about ninja dt's and what not is generally going to entertain those who really can't tell what is going on in game. e.g. good for showing chicks the game. | ||
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Altair
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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oovv
366 Posts
i like his commentary.. kinda exciting haha | ||
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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Belano
Sweden657 Posts
Like the White-Ra vs Strelok series in the ESWC. Just pure awe inspiring commentating from Tastosis. | ||
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gentile
Switzerland594 Posts
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
2. Tasteless 3. Chill 4. Artosis Tasteless and Day[9] both scream when they're excited, and that's what I like: excitement in the game. They both bring it. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Great mix of various commentating skills. Tasteless takes spot number 4 imo. He tries to make things sound exciting a bit too much, and his commentary is kinda repetitive. That being said, of all the commentators I can think of right now (including others than the 4 in the poll), Tasteless still has the 4th place. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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Alpine
United States86 Posts
"The lurker is apparently overseeing nexus construction" | ||
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
My favorite commentary team is (in order): Artosis/SuperDanielMan, Artosis/Chill, Artosis/Tasteless | ||
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
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Deleted User 55994
949 Posts
On February 08 2010 23:10 Shikyo wrote: This is strange, since always, even during the GSI and early GOM seasons when imo he was at his best, I've always disliked his voice. I dunno, it's just so unique and distinct. The other commentators listed here have pretty normal voices. | ||
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Jaxx
Slovakia758 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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Armathai
1023 Posts
I really love the Chill and Day9 pairing especially sunday with the Ret and Mondi games!!, they're awesome, besides the vent fails ¬¬ I voted for Chill tho because he's under appreciated! | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + day9 sounds like brent spiner to me | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 09 2010 01:00 faction123 wrote: I dunno, it's just so unique and distinct. The other commentators listed here have pretty normal voices. O_o Just as normal as tasteless does imo. | ||
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On February 08 2010 14:10 Insane wrote: No offense to the others (they're all top level casters), but I really think Day is the best BW caster of all time. His knowledge of the game, ability to inject humor, and ability to switch casting roles seamlessly is really unparalleled. well said my thoughts exactly | ||
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
Their casting is clear and informative and the color commentary is usually seamless. | ||
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Captain Mayhem
Sweden774 Posts
All of them are just so awesome. | ||
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drivec
United States354 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
If i would rate all then its : 1.Day[9] 2.Tastless 3.Chill 4.Artosis | ||
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MartT
United Kingdom88 Posts
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GGthx
United States60 Posts
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battarro
United States59 Posts
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kernl
84 Posts
I think people prefer Day only by the slightest of margins. | ||
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LastWish
2013 Posts
They know a lot a sound good together - form a team. However Artosis and Tasteless are not very compatible. Imo Tasteless lacks understanding of some parts of the game and his analysis lately is very poor. I think Artosis could be good but he hasn't got the balls to tell Tasteless he is wrong at some points. Tasteless used to be very good with Suzy and Superdanielman, his humor used to be unmatched... but now he seems to lack both interest and ideas. They do recycle the same things over and over again. Also make a lot of premature judgements for battles ,who has the advantage and who will clearly win and then just switch them over in a second. | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
Day[9] - Enormous knowledge. Him + Chill are the best casters of all time. His humor is also a thing to mention. His screaming too. Artosis - Also a huge knowledge but im sick of his biased prediction and calling the game over too early. Tasteless - Once upon a time he was excellent. Now he lost his interest/touch. Not to mention that when he talks it seems to me that he was partying hard the day before. Overall very good combination. They all make sc much more enjoyable | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
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Solai
204 Posts
I really hope that sooner or later we ll have some english casts of korean games again. Watching the TSL commented is fun, but I would prefer to see the likes of Jaedong and Flash being casted^^ | ||
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Kompicek
Czech Republic245 Posts
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NeVeR
1352 Posts
1) Artosis 2) Day[9] 3) Chill 4) Tasteless Edit: I'm not sure how some people think Tasteless' commentary is the best. I would usually mute the GomTV casts with him and SDM and just listen to music instead, because 50% of the time they weren't even talking about the game, and when they did, nearly everything said was plain/obvious, and rarely ever funny. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
Also, Chill should be fucking raping this poll. | ||
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uppTagg
Sweden473 Posts
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
Tasteless just gets my vote because he hooked me into Broodwar and made it awesome. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10705 Posts
."it's not about e-sport bucks, it's about being a good human being"... Pure win | ||
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sorech02
United States15 Posts
"wigglin' and jigglin'" "purple Protoss pieces" | ||
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PangO
Chile1870 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On February 09 2010 06:29 sorech02 wrote: I think Artosis's- "They aren't pieces, this is a video game." is my favorite quote so far.Rather than make an impossible vote, I'd rather mention some notable quotes: "wigglin' and jigglin'" "purple Protoss pieces" | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On February 09 2010 06:12 dethrawr wrote: All the tasteless hating about "losing touch" or whatnot, you try casting with a 4am start time after a long day, see how you go. Tasteless really got me into following the professional StarCraft scene for his enjoyable and entertaining casts. Day[9] is a phenomenal caster who deserves respect and praise, his daily show is absolutely awesome. Artosis is a really good commentator for game knowledge and insight, and with the amount of "stuff" he generates for the community through scforall and other means, I feel he is a backbone for the community. And while Chill hasn't had as much "professional" experience as the others, I do like him and his casting, and think he is a worthy addition to the casting team. Tasteless just gets my vote because he hooked me into Broodwar and made it awesome. Nobody's hating tasteless. Even if there is a good reason for it, the (subjective) point stands that his casting quality has decreased lately. He still does great casts, and we love him for that. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On February 08 2010 14:10 Insane wrote: No offense to the others (they're all top level casters), but I really think Day is the best BW caster of all time. His knowledge of the game, ability to inject humor, and ability to switch casting roles seamlessly is really unparalleled. Agreed | ||
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Myrkskog
Canada481 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On February 09 2010 05:27 CTStalker wrote: you guys ripping on tasteless suck. the tastosis casting archon is awesome, because you can tell how close artosis and tasteless are. their humour and back and forth is certainly different than day9/chill, but it's still great. I haven't seen anyone ripping on Tasteless, just giving an honest opinion. I still think he does a great job but I think the other 3 casters are a nudge above him at this time. | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
he loves the game and can cast great with anybody. i would pair him with chill. | ||
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
if i were gay i would give him my ass for sure! | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
Artosis - I think he is very good, but I don't like his constant exaggerations. Every 2 minutes he finds something that he has never seen before. In the same context, I feel the casting duo is often exaggerating the advantage a player has. Chill - His knowledge is quite good, he has a clear voice and is more careful in what he says then the other casters, which I like. I feel that he is a perfect wingman so to speak. He is a great addition to Day[9] and was also great with Artosis in TSL1. As a solo-commentator I wouldn't like him that much. Day[9] - There is no better way to put it than this: On February 08 2010 14:10 Insane wrote: No offense to the others (they're all top level casters), but I really think Day is the best BW caster of all time. His knowledge of the game, ability to inject humor, and ability to switch casting roles seamlessly is really unparalleled. The only time I didn't like him that much was during the Combat-ex vs Chill Bo5. I thought it was over the top. But it was a Grudge-match and many others liked it, so whatever. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
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MgZ)ResT
France60 Posts
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
I don't like how Day9 calls every strat except the most popular a "weird build". Everything is weird this weird that. Day9/Chill combo bore me as their casting has little strategic insight beyond what's really obvious. Artosis/Tasteless meanwhile are pretty funny and they discuss timings, implications of what the players are doing, what they should be doing, etc. Overall very good. I like Saturdays more than Sundays. | ||
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
1) He has the best voice 2) He has the best speaking ability 3) He doesn't make strange noises (Day[9] - Tasteless) 4) He doesn't have a subtle superiority complex (Chill) 5) He's better at the other casters at Starcraft and has better knowledge, although he doesn't chime in with it enough. 6) He is legitimately passionate and doesn't have that fakeish "passion" vibe I get from the other casters. When Gosi[terran] lost you could feel the raw emotion of his comrade being overcome by inactive protoss imbalance, and he still held it together. Day[9] gives the illusion of having better knowledge because he talks about such abstract things which most ppl with common sense already know (where to take a 3rd doesn't need a 30 min rant). Chill is never really "sure" about what's going on, and Tasteless loves to let us know how to group mutas or let units mine gas quicker every single game. Artosis is the real deal folks. And don't get me wrong the other casters are VERY good, Artosis is just on a whole different level. | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On February 09 2010 07:57 Malinor wrote: Tasteless - I often have the feeling that he has lost the passion for the game and it shows in his commentaries. I feel as soon as Protoss is involved his commentary gets a lot better. Artosis - I think he is very good, but I don't like his constant exaggerations. Every 2 minutes he finds something that he has never seen before. In the same context, I feel the casting duo is often exaggerating the advantage a player has. Chill - His knowledge is quite good, he has a clear voice and is more careful in what he says then the other casters, which I like. I feel that he is a perfect wingman so to speak. He is a great addition to Day[9] and was also great with Artosis in TSL1. As a solo-commentator I wouldn't like him that much. Day[9] - There is no better way to put it than this: Agreed 100%. Exact same opinion about every single one of them. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
I really enjoy and appreciate all of the commentators; Artosis is a very knowledgeable commentator who relates the Starcraft metagame and how it reflects upon Korean pro Starcraft (because he lives there). I like Chill's sense of humor, he legit makes me lol at times. Day 9 is very knowledgable and I enjoy his sense of humor, but I wish he would amp it up a little more during the PokerStrategy.com TSL so I don't feel like I'm watching a Day 9 daily. | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
Overall I have to say this poll is kinda silly the casters are all amazing and deserve equal credit / appreciation. | ||
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t00ey
Canada57 Posts
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Alphonsse
United States518 Posts
It would be nice if the tasteless/artosis duo could cast at a non-ungodly time for them. I personally don't care if the live time isn't good for me because it's a replay cast anyways, so watching the vods would be just as good. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
edit: I suppose they're just a bit too tired because frankly players at their level should be able to keep track of the minimap. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
Didnt like Day[9] before, but damn, this guy have improved alot during last few months | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
Off topic, thanks again for those great games/casts ! | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
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Kullosus
Canada18 Posts
I think maybe it's because they are super tired because they're casting at some ridiculous hour from Korean. Also I think that Tastetosis might be out of practice. The last cast I saw of them was WCG, and I know DAy[9] was doing all the OSL stuff plus his daily. I realize Tastetosis want to be pro casters and probably be paid for their work, but the lack of work seems to mean they're out of practice. Maybe they should start casting some amateur leagues like the CSL to give them practice and to give more attention to some of the great lower level leagues. | ||
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251
United States1401 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
This may also be due to them missing a ton of stuff that was going in the games. I forget which game it was exactly, but they missed a raid that was going on at 12 for a good 2 minutes as a single tank killed every single probe and had the nexus down to 10% hp (i think it was tasteless). Another game the base collecting and supply disparity was glaring (1:3 ratio between the players) and they were still calling it a close game. I was so annoyed at the casts that i started to watch them on mute. (though the saturday previous to this, it definitely wasn't the case) | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
2. artosis 3. day9 4. chill tastosis is so entertaining | ||
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Glaucus
479 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
I would like Chill better except for his voice. Nothing he can really do about that, he's a good caster otherwise, but I just enjoy listening to Day talk more so I voted for him. Tastless and Artosis have not amazed me this TSL. They're still markedly better than the other English commentators I've heard, but Day/Chill have been much more entertaining to listen to thus far. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On February 09 2010 08:10 PokePill wrote: I'm surprised Artosis isn't getting as much love 1) He has the best voice 2) He has the best speaking ability 3) He doesn't make strange noises (Day[9] - Tasteless) 4) He doesn't have a subtle superiority complex (Chill) 5) He's better at the other casters at Starcraft and has better knowledge, although he doesn't chime in with it enough. 6) He is legitimately passionate and doesn't have that fakeish "passion" vibe I get from the other casters. When Gosi[terran] lost you could feel the raw emotion of his comrade being overcome by inactive protoss imbalance, and he still held it together. Day[9] gives the illusion of having better knowledge because he talks about such abstract things which most ppl with common sense already know (where to take a 3rd doesn't need a 30 min rant). Chill is never really "sure" about what's going on, and Tasteless loves to let us know how to group mutas or let units mine gas quicker every single game. Artosis is the real deal folks. And don't get me wrong the other casters are VERY good, Artosis is just on a whole different level. Basically agree 100%. I never really cared for listening to commentating until I heard superdan and artosis cast foreigners vs progamers. Tasteless is hard to listen to, his voice is strange, and he gets really excited (and then harder to listen to) over what I consider nothing. I like Chill's jokes though. Day is ok, but he gets excited too easily like Tasteless imo. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski was a top American Terran player before beginning his casting career by covering mainly non-Korean online tournaments like Ascension. After casting the Razer TSL in 2008, Artosis moved to Korea and now does interviews and coverage for IEG, the media giant that sponsors the eSTRO professional gaming team. Artosis joined Tasteless to cast Blizzcon 2008 and 2009, as well as the WCG Grand Final this year. Artosis is known as \"The Wikipedia of StarCraft\" for his comprehensive knowledge of the game. Nick "Tasteless" Plott is regarded by many as the top English professional StarCraft commentator. Tasteless began his career with WCG USA Finals in 2005, and casted several other live events throughout the United States. In 2008, he became the first English-only caster to move to Korea, covering all seasons of GomTV\'s TG-Intel Classic and the WCG Grand Finals from 2005 to this year. Tasteless also casted many events for Blizzard, including their World Wide Invitational (since 2006) and Blizzcon (since 2007). Tasteless\'s nickname is the \"Storm Observer\" for his energy, humor, and enthusiasm. YOU CANT TOP THAT. GO TASTOSIS^^!!!  | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
2.Chill 3.Artosis 4.Tasteless | ||
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Zev
United States64 Posts
No offence to them, but i mute Atrosis and Tasteless. Im not sure what it is, and its been a few months since i have listened to them but i remember every time i hear them i tend to mute it. | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On February 09 2010 08:10 PokePill wrote: Day[9] gives the illusion of having better knowledge because he talks about such abstract things which most ppl with common sense already know (where to take a 3rd doesn't need a 30 min rant). Chill is never really "sure" about what's going on, and Tasteless loves to let us know how to group mutas or let units mine gas quicker every single game. I love all you casters so much! | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Rigged. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 09 2010 16:47 iNfeRnaL wrote: Man up Nick and shout some more, we know it's late for you, but what the fuck Tasteless not winning a caster poll? Rigged. | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
actually i dont remember if that was from tsl casts or something else but still p.s. chill i like you but i HATE listening to you cast. FUCK MY LIFE everytime you said 'brattock' i wanted to suicide i don't care if that is the correct pronunciation FUCK. fuck canada | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
But in a way this is an unfair poll, u try casting in 5AM. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
My only criticism is that listening to Artosis commentate on a TvP is like listening to Fox news commentate on Republicans vs. Democrats. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
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Stuslegend
Canada168 Posts
2. klazart | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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Kizlyk
Ukraine84 Posts
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Deathfate
Spain555 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
On February 09 2010 16:55 Rekrul wrote: fuck canada chill is doing a great job except for the bratoks and the outs and the outsiders :D | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On February 09 2010 18:33 Stuslegend wrote: 1. day[9] 2. klazart hahaha I love this | ||
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DarkShadowz
Sweden321 Posts
btw I voted Day9 because I tihnk he can cast in so many different ways depending on the situation. | ||
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-Sky-
Bulgaria284 Posts
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Zeburial
Sweden1126 Posts
1. Day[9] 1. Tasteless 1. Chill Voted for artosis obv. He is <3 | ||
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1a2a3a4a
United States4 Posts
On February 09 2010 16:55 Rekrul wrote: p.s. chill i like you but i HATE listening to you cast. FUCK MY LIFE everytime you said 'brattock' i wanted to suicide i don't care if that is the correct pronunciation FUCK. fuck canada I kind of like some variety outside of higher pitched american accents and sore throat american accents. I really liked the day9/chill combo for the distinctive lack of hyperbole and redundancy. I got so sick of hearing that "this is an incredibly amazingly massively hugely large lead player x has." Chill/Day9 kind of felt more professional, like people talking about something that they had experienced, not just something they were fans of. It felt more like a real sports casting compared to the other pair. | ||
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Ket
United Kingdom124 Posts
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Puosu
6985 Posts
Day is the funniest. Tasteless/Artosis is good because of how in depth they can go about the game, not saying Chill/Day can't but I think Tasteless and Artosis do it more often. Tasteless would top every category if he was in his early-mid GSL shape though. | ||
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SteffoDeffo
Germany48 Posts
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
Chill and Day9 have great humorous synergy in light of their understanding of the game. Tasteless and Artosis are great to watch for their dry humour and intense shoutcast moments. | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
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Severedevil
United States4838 Posts
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UnderWorld_Dream
Canada219 Posts
altho if i can give a little suggestion. Tasteless and Artosis need to give up the 'you are so right', 'this is so true' , 'you are so amazing this is is soooooo true'. It gets boring since we do expect you call the thruth, no need to congrats each other for calling things right... | ||
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
On February 08 2010 12:12 HazMat wrote: 1. DAy9 2. Artosis 3. Tasteless 4. Chill This pretty much sums it up, for me. | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
Tasteless - Solid, accessible commentary for the people who don't understand the game on a deeper level. He's lost a little bit of the fire he used to have, but as other people have mentioned, he's done this day in and day out for years. SC wouldn't be the same without him. Chill - Artosis + Chill were an awesome casting team last TSL. I really enjoy Chill's take on the game, because it tends to be slightly different from my perspective. But, the poll is based on ranking the individual caster, and I can't imagine myself listening to just Chill for every TSL2 game. He doesn't have much energy and I would probably end up being bored. Day[9] - Got energy? Got energy drinks? Got BEAR SEMEN?! The guy is definately entertaining, and like Artosis, he does give lots of valuable insight... but... he's too much for me. By the end of his casts, I'm tired of hearing his voice, and I'm worn out. The guy can reach speeds of 500 words per minute requiring you to be ^ this tall before getting on the ride. I think part of the problem is that many of you now take Artosis for granted. He's so active in the community, that maybe we're all too familiar with his style. I urge many of you to reconsider your choices .Artosis is #1 | ||
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bongjwa
United States199 Posts
On February 08 2010 12:12 HazMat wrote: 1. DAy9 2. Artosis 3. Tasteless 4. Chill this | ||
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Skazzo
United States102 Posts
Love Tasteless but I gotta give it to Day[9] for how easily he is able to present the deeper aspects of the game. | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
Day[9]: I think he really does best as a solo or primary caster which is why he works so well for me in combination with Chill who is an excellent secondary caster. Day[9] always seems to have tons and tons of info to give on any given situation and as such I think he shines the most when he's casting a non-live game so he can stop the game and explain in detail what he wants. I think I enjoy his Day[9] dailies more than his TSL performance for this reason. Not to say either is bad, just a matter of which I feel is better. Chill: My personal favorite for a secondary co-caster. He seems to mesh well with just about any of the other casters and I enjoy his dry humor a lot. He fits into the secondary caster role so well also because he almost never seems to step on the other caster's toes, cutting each other off and such. I like his casting with Day9 in TSL2 but I would like to see him with the other casters as well, even Artosis for TSL1 flashbacks. Tasteless: Like Day[9] I think Tasteless is best suited to a solo or primary caster role which he hasn't really been doing this TSL2 as Artosis seems to be acting like the primary with Tasteless as the secondary. I'm not really liking that combination that way. Tasteless also seems a bit on the tired end of things in these TSL2 casts, understandably so though. He seems like he has more to say a lot of the time but Artosis keeps dominating the cast which I don't think is his best suit. Just for kicks I'd like to see a Tasteless/Day9 cast because I think it would be interesting. Artosis: I think he fits a secondary caster role far better than what seems like a primary caster role he's taken in TSL2. I first heard his casts with Gentho during the Ascension tournament and I thought he was excellent during those, doing what he did best, being an encyclopedia of SC. If he acted as more of a secondary to Tasteless I think I would enjoy their casts more. All that said, I think Artosis and Chill have really good chemistry despite them both being secondary casters in my opinion. I think my favorite pairing for Tasteless was when he casted with SDM. Like I said for Day9, I like his solo casts best but paired with Chill is good too as Chill can back up anyone in my opinion. | ||
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Sebastien
Canada72 Posts
The only criticism I have is that he seems to stress professionalism at the cost of entertainment in the TSL casts at times. It’s understandable considering the different setting and the expectations that come from representing something as large and respectable as the TSL but Day9 is really at his best when he's interspersing humor with his strategic insight. Finding a right balance for his amazing set of skills is his biggest hurdle. Keep up the excellent work Sean you do amazing things for the community. Tasteless, the little brother. Tasteless and I have a complicated history. His appearance pre GOM were lively and interesting but it I didn't crave tasteless like a hard street drug. All of that changed when I caught him on the Gomtv Star Invitational. I don’t know if it was because he was suddenly casting solo or if it had anything to due with his recent arrival in Korea and personal exposure to the E-sport epicenter; whatever it was Nick became a super sayian caster seemingly overnight (fittingly, during one of his casts he joked that his hairstylist had coiffed him a super sayian hairstyle). Nick’s witticism were gut busting and his endless energy and tempo kept the spectator breathless and made every encounter in the game epic and god help anyone watching with shortness of breath or a breathing condition if a speed shuttle and scourge made an appearance- SCOURRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Highlight of my day every time. When Susie came on board the cast was still entertaining but it lost some of the appeal to me. The Nick and Susie pairing was an ongoing struggle to create dynamic chemistry between the casters that unfortunately never came to fruition. Nick and Daniel Lee were an excellent duo that occasionally achieved the sublime. Daniel Lee is akin to Day9 in his thorough dissection of strategy and occasionally even used Art of War quotes lol. Also, Monkey Milk, nuff said. With all these exceptional performances I was really looking forward to Tasteless casting the TSL. However, to my great disappointment tasteless has been severely underperforming. His energy level seems lower and his humor seems neutered if not forced at times. I know he’s casting under difficult circumstances (4 am I think?) and that its bound to affect his performance so I’m trying to be understanding of his recent efforts. Your outgoing personality and raw verbal talent make you a natural caster I still believe! To be blunt, I’ve never really understood why Artosis casting gets so much praise. He does great things for the community by covering stories in Korea and helping promising foreign players putting to use his E-sport connection but his casting is uninspired and dull. He casts like a weatherman with a verbal tempo that rarely deviates from the same eternal metronome pace. Contrary to what it should do his voice hinders my enjoyment of the game and commits the greatest casting sin by taking me out of the action and making me focus on how annoyed I am at the sound coming out of my speakers. His strategic knowledge is fine but fails to bring anything exceptional that differentiate him from every other caster on the circuit. Lastly, Artosis’s bias often creeps through his casts and outright alienates me. Again though, he's casting around 4 am which make things more difficult then they should be. I haven’t listened to Chill enough to have a strong opinion on him yet but he sounds like he has potential. Thanks for all your hard work guys! | ||
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bEsT[Alive]
606 Posts
On February 08 2010 17:40 OneOther wrote: tie between Chill/Day They make a good Good chemistry! | ||
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4Servy
Netherlands1542 Posts
hacker vultures | ||
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
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Myrkul
Croatia132 Posts
Of the other three I like Day[9] the best | ||
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Lyrok
Germany85 Posts
2. ChillTastelessArtosis Not by much, but Day[9]'s humor and anologies are just golden :D | ||
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Trap
United States395 Posts
That said, this TSL commentary has been good overall though I hope for the return of Artosis/Chill. | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
On February 10 2010 02:19 Skazzo wrote: No Klazart option?! In a TSL thread? | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
For me Artosis/Chill is the best team but they're all good. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
Artosis is the nice middleground between those two types so he's probably my favorite. | ||
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Piste
6177 Posts
2. Tasteless 3.Day9 4.Chill how the heck did Chill get that many votes :O | ||
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IceCube
Croatia1403 Posts
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bEsT[Alive]
606 Posts
On February 10 2010 06:41 Trap wrote: I don't know why people seem to think Day has the best analysis... I remember listening to the TvZ mech liquipedia podcast with Artosis, Idra and Day, and Day was way outclassed in terms of knowledge about biomech builds, valkonic, etc. I've listened to a few of his daily shows and while I'm sure some people can't think reasonably about starcraft and find it useful, he doesn't say anything that profound, but he sure takes a long time to say it. if you're trying to get better at starcraft, watch your own replays to see where you fucked up, watch pro replays, practice your mechanics over and over again; the vague ideas he talks about in his show don't make you any better. That said, this TSL commentary has been good overall though I hope for the return of Artosis/Chill. ... You do realize Day is a Zerg player, right? He doesn't have to chime in on a race Artosis and IdrA have been playing to a T. You made one good point: Day never gets right to the point and he'll go on many different tangents. I'd argue his analogies add spice and flavor to each cast he does. Consequently, it helps those who are absolutely unfamiliar with Starcraft understand. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On February 09 2010 16:47 iNfeRnaL wrote: Man up Nick and shout some more, we know it's late for you, but what the fuck Tasteless not winning a caster poll? Rigged. Oh how I miss the days when tasteless casted like that, he made every game epic, no matter how dull it was. I honestly got goose bumps several times a long time ago when he did epic solo casting. Now he is the most emotionless caster out of the 4. I'm pretty surprised artosis is last, his understanding of the game seems to be quite a lot higher than chill and tasteless. Although it's true that tasteless gets quite a bit better when he casts a game with a protoss player.I think people really exaggerate Artosis' bias. Why, because he says that Idra crushed player X because... Idra crushed player X? Anyways, Chill surprised me a bit, for some reason I expected his commentary to be the worst out of the 4 but he did a great job and the day9 chill combo is definitely more enjoyable than the casting archon, although casting at that late hour must obviously suck for artosis and tasteless. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
The thing about Day[9] is he has this odd, almost sheltered sense of humor. I still remember in the Chill-Combat showmatch when he tried his damndest to be mean. It was funny, even though you couldn't take the "hatred" seriously. Things like that make him my favorite caster, easily. | ||
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tbrown47
United States1235 Posts
On February 10 2010 06:41 Trap wrote: I don't know why people seem to think Day has the best analysis... I remember listening to the TvZ mech liquipedia podcast with Artosis, Idra and Day, and Day was way outclassed in terms of knowledge about biomech builds, valkonic, etc. I've listened to a few of his daily shows and while I'm sure some people can't think reasonably about starcraft and find it useful, he doesn't say anything that profound, but he sure takes a long time to say it. if you're trying to get better at starcraft, watch your own replays to see where you fucked up, watch pro replays, practice your mechanics over and over again; the vague ideas he talks about in his show don't make you any better. That said, this TSL commentary has been good overall though I hope for the return of Artosis/Chill. The poll is Favorite caster, not best. I might not learn the most by watching Day[9] (actually I probably do), but he is by far the most entertaining. To me, atleast (this coming from someone who is pretty new to the SC pro scene. I started watching a couple of months before JD won the golden mouse). You might learn more in an hour of extremely serious discussion than an hour of watching Day[9], but you might also fall asleep in that hour. Related question to my noobness: I heard that Hiya and JD used to roll the scene together, yet I have never seen play that would be even close to JD's level, was there ever a time when this was true or was I lied to? Did Hiya used to be Oz's star ace player/game sniper? | ||
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bEsT[Alive]
606 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
day9 artosis chill | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
Chill is pretty cool to ;p but again they are all awesome. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Dan is falling behind! :O | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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bEsT[Alive]
606 Posts
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
On February 10 2010 13:45 bEsT[Alive] wrote: They need a nickname though. What about Chiliday? I like Dill | ||
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bEsT[Alive]
606 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On February 08 2010 18:28 maitrecarotte wrote: Day[9] is the only true answer edit: Btw Day and Chill are much easier to understand with chobo-level English. Yeah, even when Day says million words per minute Are you kidding? Sean has the largest vocab out of them all. | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
But I didn't enjoy chills older commentary sorry chill lol <3 | ||
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Alphonsse
United States518 Posts
Dill[9] imo | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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citi.zen
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CaptainPlatypus
United States852 Posts
2. Chill/Tasteless (tie) 3. Artosis Sorry Artosis, just not a huge fan of your style. | ||
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trance-
United States46 Posts
These things really undermine not only the message of the broadcaster, but the quality of the broadcast as a whole. If your audience thinks it knows more than the voice attached to your product, that voice becomes a hindrance rather than an enhancement. There are other areas to nitpick, but you can at least tell that they're trying, and I really think they could do a better job if they worked on the negatives. Just my two cents. | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
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KwarK
United States42689 Posts
Shit like that just gets under my skin. When the players are mirroring each other I get that it's boring to cast but that doesn't mean you need to make shit up about what the players are going to do. When they have the exact same number of units one of them doesn't have map control and isn't going to cross the map and do some kind of sniping harassment. There was analysis to be done. The faster high ground nexus with the few minerals and no gas versus the low ground, riskier but richer expansion. That was the story of that game and Tasteless didn't even mention it. | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
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tyr
France1686 Posts
I like tasteless the least of the four. Maybe I just got bored of his voice but yeah I dunno ... Also I dislike that he's getting like superexcited when a minor thing is happening. I mean okay, the probe got sniped and that's gonna put the player back but I feel he's doing that a little bit too much. The other casters of course also raise their voices sometimes but only when it's legitimate imo, like during big battles or epic storms or like really nice plays. But well, thats just my opinion ... In any cases they're all very good and they make the games very entertaining and I thank them all a lot for that, keep up the good work ! | ||
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Noah
Norway164 Posts
I did end up with voting on Tasteless though, his GOM coverage was just epic and made it my favorite tournament to watch. Second place is split between Artosis and Day[9], and Chill takes third just because I haven't heard him as much as I have heard the others. | ||
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DaZe
Sweden2111 Posts
I mean half of these comments are ppl arguing whether Artosis or Day has the most knowledge about starcraft. Its kinda retarded since Day obviously has more knowledge about zerg and their aspects of the game while Artosis would shit all over Day's commentating on terran. And frankly both of them have a pretty low standard casting from a protoss players point of view, thus why Tasteless actually (no matter what his 1on1 iccup skill lvl is atm) is the caster who puts focus on the actual importants in most games (ie. arbiter timings / taking the right expansions at the right time / trying to buy some time etc). I guess it's sort of pointless to imagine someone with such a comprehensive knowledge about all 3 races, thats why they've been teamed up. Must say I would enjoy some of the commentating going back a bit to the basics which makes it a lot easier for the casters so that they wont make obvious mistakes. And for all of those who whine at Nick for not being funny enough. It's not like you just lose your sense of humor by default. I really hope Nick wont force it into the casting instead of letting it come naturally which I'm sure it will. | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
Tasteless, however, has by far the best casting voice. He also has good game knowledge and serious experience as a professional caster. Seeing those two commentate as a team for OGN and the MSL would be a dream come true. Also, can the next poll be about the worst Youtube caster? | ||
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Gliche
United States811 Posts
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
its liek there's a denny's on one corner, and ihop on the other | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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kernl
84 Posts
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
On February 10 2010 21:47 DaZe wrote:I mean half of these comments are ppl arguing whether Artosis or Day has the most knowledge about starcraft. Its kinda retarded since Day obviously has more knowledge about zerg and their aspects of the game while Artosis would shit all over Day's commentating on terran. AFAIK, Day offraces quite often | ||
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theslayer922
Canada304 Posts
2)Day[9] 3)Chill 4)Artosis Tasteless is just too awesome not to be first Day[9] Chill Artosis, sorry but your a terran=auto hate | ||
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DaZe
Sweden2111 Posts
So does Artosis And Tasteless.. ... And Chill ! | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On February 09 2010 07:57 Malinor wrote: Tasteless - I often have the feeling that he has lost the passion for the game and it shows in his commentaries. I feel as soon as Protoss is involved his commentary gets a lot better. Artosis - I think he is very good, but I don't like his constant exaggerations. Every 2 minutes he finds something that he has never seen before. In the same context, I feel the casting duo is often exaggerating the advantage a player has. Chill - His knowledge is quite good, he has a clear voice and is more careful in what he says then the other casters, which I like. I feel that he is a perfect wingman so to speak. He is a great addition to Day[9] and was also great with Artosis in TSL1. As a solo-commentator I wouldn't like him that much. Day[9] - There is no better way to put it than this: I agree with everything, especially the Tasteless part (sadly). I feel like he's doing it more as a career choice than what he's passionate about. But he's still awesome so w.e | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On February 11 2010 04:48 Xxio wrote: I agree with everything, especially the Tasteless part (sadly). I feel like he's doing it more as a career choice than what he's passionate about. But he's still awesome so w.e I sort of agree. I don't think it's for lack of passion, but that at some point he began believing he has transcended the role of 'funny guy with a microphone' when he stumbled into this whole casting thing during the wacksteven/wcg days and now thinks he's some sort of professional. Well, he got paid to cast, or still does (not sure about that) so he has sort of become a professional, but that doesn't necessarily mean he has the skills or talents of other commentators that he sort of tries to emulate. Basically what I think is that he stopped being himself as he casts either because he feels that theres some expectation to be the premiere caster in the community, or ego or maybe yeah he has no passion anymore and doesn't care. Chill and Day are absolutely destroying though they are awesome together | ||
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
chill and artosis are also great, but tasteless and day[9] are just, i dont know. i just really really like listening to them | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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JadeFist
United States1225 Posts
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Code
Canada634 Posts
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
I even copy the [9] ^_^ | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
While I appreciate strategic commentary, I just haven't found anyone to be too insightful so I'm taking enthusiasm over generic explanations for this one Tasteless and Artosis need to step up the SC jokes to make up for Chill freaking out over every move. | ||
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Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
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RainmanMP
United States1698 Posts
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PhOeniX[MinD]
361 Posts
On February 11 2010 12:06 RainmanMP wrote: We need a Plott brothers commentary! yes we need it + Artosis-Chill i wonder who will coment the final? | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
its day9 or chill IMO | ||
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Lurgee
Australia252 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
we need tasteless +day9 dual commentary, epic awkwardness ensues? | ||
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duckhunt
Canada311 Posts
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SUSUGAM
United States177 Posts
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aznanimedude
United States199 Posts
but have fun coordinating and timing it since artosis and tasteless are both in korea so it's easy for both of em to be there at the same time but plott brothers? 1 in cali one in korea? it would be cool but dunno how that'd work i voted bear semen ftw | ||
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SD-Spirit
Poland31 Posts
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SD-Spirit
Poland31 Posts
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Achiraaz
Denmark25 Posts
I think Superdanielman and Tasteless was a really good team and I think that Artosis and Chill is a good team as well. I don't think that Artosis and Tasteless is that good a team. Its like it misses this energetic spike. I really like both their commentating styles, but without the energetic spikes it almost gets dull somewhere at the end of the midgame. | ||
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Igneon72
United States2 Posts
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Lovin
Denmark812 Posts
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Jacopana
El Salvador210 Posts
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Wfat
Australia108 Posts
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
On February 11 2010 04:44 DaZe wrote: So does Artosis And Tasteless.. ... And Chill ! Everyone knows Artosis wouldnt betray the terran race. | ||
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onewingedmoogle
Canada434 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On February 13 2010 01:52 Catch]22 wrote: Everyone knows Artosis wouldnt betray the terran race. He offraces strictly without building imbalanced units. Its a matter of principle. | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
i wanna hear day do another commentary like the one he did on combat vs chill haha ya so great. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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ErOs_HalO
United States167 Posts
He has a lot of insight into any game situation. Not to mention, his extremely witty comments that he can spit out at any moment! He's pretty freakin funny haha. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On February 12 2010 03:14 Achiraaz wrote: Hm I think it depends alot on the mix of the commentators as well. I think Superdanielman and Tasteless was a really good team and I think that Artosis and Chill is a good team as well. I don't think that Artosis and Tasteless is that good a team. Its like it misses this energetic spike. I really like both their commentating styles, but without the energetic spikes it almost gets dull somewhere at the end of the midgame. Artosis and Tasteless can be a really good team, you dont even have to look that far. iirc they did a very good job at wcg china for example. Wide awake and excited about the mass of people they were very energetic too | ||
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MelGibson
Canada9 Posts
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
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Lymzor
Romania3 Posts
)2 Tasteless, Day[9],Artosis | ||
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HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
I personally find day's voice a bit hard to listen to- in my ears it has a too exaggerated intonation, but well... no one else seems to share this opinion with me so w/e | ||
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RushWifDietCoke
United States488 Posts
BUT... If my life depended on it I'd say Day9 by a 'smidgen' just because hes so f-ing hilarious and quite the understanding/modest gentleman. Also bonus points to him and Chill for playing Zerg. | ||
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Finance
United States15 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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Daudr
Sweden275 Posts
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TimeToPractice!
United States105 Posts
Chill Tasteless Day[9] But I think they all do a great job | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Jusciax
Lithuania588 Posts
2. Day9 3. Artosis 4. Tasteless | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2270 Posts
2. Chill 3.tasteless 4.anyone 145. artosis but, this shud be decided by an epic 2v2 @ BGH Tasteless/Artosis vs Chill/Day9 Tank+Scout > koreans wannabe! | ||
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nicoaldo
Argentina939 Posts
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Tapioca Weasel
81 Posts
On February 08 2010 14:12 hero.dE wrote: bear semen I would vote for Day[9] but I feel obligated to vote for Tasteless since his commentary kept me interested when I first stumbled across the scene. this is exactly how i feel. and im friends with tasteless on fb. so there's that. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On February 14 2010 08:42 XenOsky- wrote: 1. Day 2. Chill 3.tasteless 4.anyone 145. artosis but, this shud be decided by an epic 2v2 @ BGH Tasteless/Artosis vs Chill/Day9 Tank+Scout > koreans wannabe! why the artosis hate? :[ he's an awesome caster , really knows the game. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
Artosis is a nice productive sidekick-caster who talks about interesting things most of the time, yet his opinions are sometimes a bit biased. Seems calm and focused most of the time which makes it easy to listen to. Day takes a lot of energy to listen to, he's a bit too extreme in his personality for my taste, but still offers good strategy insight and can talk a lot without becoming repetitive. Tasteless main strength is his ability to become excited but other than that he talks about the obvious a bit too much and some of his phrases become repetitive after a short while. Also mixes players up and misses a lot of things going on in the game. 1.Chill 2.Artosis 3.Day 4.Tasteless | ||
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On February 14 2010 10:38 ilj.psa wrote: why the artosis hate? :[ he's an awesome caster , really knows the game. Mostly because he can't seem to separate his distaste of protoss from his otherwise scholarly casting style. | ||
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Soulforged
Latvia918 Posts
2.Chill 3.Artosis 4.Tasteless | ||
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Khyrandor
Czech Republic158 Posts
1,5. Day9 3. Artosis 4. Tasteless | ||
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pioneer8
United States143 Posts
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Dknight
United States5223 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
#2 Tasteless: Even if his performances aren't always stellar because of time zones and fatigue he is just awesome. When i heard his voice i just want to grab a beer and watch the game. He has also a great chemestry with Artosis #3 Chill / Day: i know that Day is loved here and i also like him and Chill but i prefer Artosis / Tasteless combo. It is kinda hard to explain but i think that i prefer their voices. Artosis / Tasteless for the final plz. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On February 10 2010 01:36 ProTech_MediC wrote: I really don't understand how Artosis can be in last place. He's got the most genuine passion for the game, the most insight into the metagame, and a great speaking voice. Tasteless - Solid, accessible commentary for the people who don't understand the game on a deeper level. He's lost a little bit of the fire he used to have, but as other people have mentioned, he's done this day in and day out for years. SC wouldn't be the same without him. Chill - Artosis + Chill were an awesome casting team last TSL. I really enjoy Chill's take on the game, because it tends to be slightly different from my perspective. But, the poll is based on ranking the individual caster, and I can't imagine myself listening to just Chill for every TSL2 game. He doesn't have much energy and I would probably end up being bored. Day[9] - Got energy? Got energy drinks? Got BEAR SEMEN?! The guy is definately entertaining, and like Artosis, he does give lots of valuable insight... but... he's too much for me. By the end of his casts, I'm tired of hearing his voice, and I'm worn out. The guy can reach speeds of 500 words per minute requiring you to be ^ this tall before getting on the ride. I think part of the problem is that many of you now take Artosis for granted. He's so active in the community, that maybe we're all too familiar with his style. I urge many of you to reconsider your choices .Artosis is #1 Oh well this guy wrote what i think and explained it better than me. | ||
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FreeCandyInVan
Canada48 Posts
2.Day[9] - day is just behind tasteless for me he is just as funny of not more, he also has a lot of knowledge of the game only reason hes not #1 is because i have been watching tasteless longer 3.Artosis - artosis has the the most knowledge of the game but isnt as fun to watch 4.chill i never even heard of him before the tsl but i do enjoy his dry humor and he knows what hes talking about the only downside to tasteless/artosis is they miss so much of the matches key points | ||
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ababa
Switzerland17 Posts
Chill is the best for me for live casting. He is the "no-bullshit" caster. Has a voice that does not distract from the action, has a more subtle humor. So there, I voted for Chill, for me an excellent caster. Tasteless is the second best for me: he got me into following the sc pro-gaming scene in the first place, with the gomtv seasons. The dynamics with lilsusi first and sdm next on gomtv worked very well. I find the pairing with artosis a little less convincing, but still very good. Day[9] is very energetic, and I love his channel for his post-match commentaries, replay analysis and very deep strategic thinking. As a caster though, it takes me too much energy to follow him, distracts a little bit from the live action. He's still good though, and sees some deeper things that no one else sees. Would leave them for post-game analysis though Artosis is still good, and I appreciated the "starcraft weekly"; also, I see him very good as an interviewer; as a caster he ends up last in my list, although he is still good! | ||
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simon23
Germany4 Posts
btw. after the TSL, I'd like to see more TL!Attack | ||
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TS
Croatia39 Posts
#2 Tasteless/Chill #3 Artosis Day - friendly (!), funny as hell (imho), best player out of all 4 (?), full of funfacts - intelligent, focuses on subtle things, good at explaining and wording his thoughts - quick to admit mistakes and you rarely see him waving his ego around Tasteless I'm okay with him.. nothing special to me, but since he is in Korea and all, I wish him best of luck with it. He seems pretty calm, confident and cheerful most of the time. I enjoyed his and superdanielman's commentaries a lot, sad that whole gomtv thing ended poorly. Chill I know the least about him, but, as already stated, his voice is soothing and calm most of the time. He seems to know a lot about BOs and strategies, theoretically. Also seems the youngest of them all (I could be totally wrong on this). Sometimes he just laughs out of confusion ^_^. He's solid imho, I like him. Artosis .. I don't like so much as a commentator. His huge ego is always erect and visible, I feel and sometimes his commentaries seem flavorless, aside all the bias in them. Don't get me wrong, I think he knows a lot about Terran race and he seems like an okay guy. Just isn't my cup of tea, I guess. | ||
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s[O]rry
Canada398 Posts
Day[9]. Has to be.... | ||
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awesomeopossum
United States72 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
Artosis is generally accurate but his enthusiasm sometimes comes off as a little forced or awkward. He also has his notorious biases, which I don't mind so much. One thing that would really improve his commentary is more creativity, especially in appreciating what uncertainty/incomplete information means in Starcraft. He's gradually improved his understanding in that area, but he still seems to appreciate mechanics much more than mind. I was happy with what he had to say today in game 1 (JF vs White-Ra) though, so maybe it will turn out that doing badly in the TL.net "favorite caster" poll was just what he needed to step up his casting game. Day is really incredible. He has some great creative insight and an eye for subtlety. He has an extremely creative view of the game, and tends to be more accurate than Tasteless. The real hallmark of his casting is how he can spontaneously weave so much information into a cohesive commentary and still find time to blend some humor into the mix. Don't often watch the stats segment, but when I do it seems pretty repetitive. Would be nice to see fresh hype using more facts about play style, favorite micro techniques, strengths and weaknesses | ||
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kulik-
Czech Republic305 Posts
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bias-
United States410 Posts
8/10 From more experience with Tasteless, Chill, and Artosis, I'm a little biased against Day. He's enthusiastic, sure, but tends to go off on side-tangents, personal 'approval' of play, and isolates the listener a bit if their ears are not accustomed to near-toxic levels of nerdosity. These levels come through in off-game tangents and overall timbre, which, let's face it, is essential. This flaming really is me griping about the casts I've heard during the TSL from him. They're good, but put me on edge while listening. Nothing personal. One thing I should mention is that Day does a GREAT job of bringing the average person in and making them able to listen and understand what the hell is going on without having played iccup or BW for ages. Great trait. 9/10 Next best is Artosis. Clear, brings in background information only when necessary, and sticks to the heart-of-the-matter. Every detail is brought into focus, usually without too much fussing over play not being 'perfect' while relating it to what's happening here and now as the game develops. This man is entrenched in the foreign AND Korean scene so you get every angle on how this game is impacted by player history, recent trends, and find out whether this build is from the day after BW came out. Also, best served alongside Tasteless' commentary. 9/10 Pretty much neck-and-neck with Artosis for me is Chill. This guy is razor-sharp in analysis. As the game unfolds every detail is observed, analyzed, and eloquently vocalized. Even when it gets fast-paced, he does not turn into Klazart but instead focuses on how the result of a skirmish or battle is going to affect the game. I can't stress enough how lucid this guy's commentary is. The only gripe I really have with Chill, and also with Day from their TSL casts thus far, is commenting on and nit-picking seemingly every imperfect play made. Yeah, if they get supply-blocked for more than 5 seconds especially early on, OK. If they choose 'what you consider to be and personally prefer when I play on this map' a different strategy, BO, or building placement, please drop it. That said, Chill's strengths far outshine this nitpicking (of his nitpicking, no less) of mine. For some reason I think Chill would commentate best alone, but he does do a good job making sure the back-and-forth really adds something. He is also very, very Canadian 10/10 Tasteless is best. By far. Besides being the OG imo, he has the best balance. He talks about the relevant history leading up to the match. Then how the map might affect the play, what we might see and what will mean what. He guides the listener only through the important stuff while keeping things strictly tasteless in style (off color remarks, dead-pan humor, what is reality were starcraft, etc) which for me is a plus at this point. When he started off I'd get irritated when things were happening in the game being commentated on while a story was being told of XYZ adventure 2 years ago at WCG. That never happens anymore. Any and all stories stop instantly action heats up because well, we're here to watch action. I feel like this guy has put a lot of work into strictly commentating - watching himself and making conscious improvements. And it shows, not unlike progamers that work hard. I mean, I guess it was his job right? One last thing about the guy is that he stays professional at all times. That incident with Super Daniel Man and Idra? Tasteless was the guy to stop things form falling apart while live. No dissing or taking sides, he knows we're all here for the game. | ||
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ColorsOfRainbow
Germany354 Posts
2. day9 3. artosis 4. chill | ||
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
Artosis Chill/Tasteless tied Maybe Chill is a little bit higher.. Tasteless made me fall in love with Pro SC through the Gom Tourney cause he was really nooby friendly but now since I know SC quite well, a mix of Day9's comedy and Artosis's insight would be by far the best combo. | ||
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gh0st
United States98 Posts
I mean, I guess it was his job right? One last thing about the guy is that he stays professional at all times. That incident with Super Daniel Man and Idra? Tasteless was the guy to stop things form falling apart while live. No dissing or taking sides, he knows we're all here for the game. Thanks for bringing this up. Tasteless showed a lot of maturity in that moment. He salvaged a very awkward moment and kept the show going. As a side note, there were several occasions when SDM failed to keep his cool and act professionally. The Valor tournament, in which he staged an on-air boycott out of frustration, is a great example. 1. Day9 -- He's dynamic and entertaining, and you can really tell he approaches this game in a very inquisitive and thoughtful way and that translates into his casts with superb analysis of decision-making and the overarching strategies involved. Granted, his cast can get tedious when he's too cerebral, but that happens rarely enough. As a teacher of Starcraft, Day9 is unmatched, and that's why he's #1. 2. Tasteless -- I love him. He has an almost child-like playfulness and folksy sense of humor, which really work together nicely. Some of his schtick is getting old (Panda bear guy not withstanding), and I would like to see him generate some new "material." But all in all, he is the most experienced, professional caster out there and it shows. It's a shame how GOMTV fell apart, but when SC2 comes out, Tasteless' casting career will explode. 3. Chill -- Solid. The perfect "straight man" commentator. Let the wild color dude whoop and holler. He delivers the action by the book and gives savvy strategic knowledge to back it up. I've also noticed he's improved as the TSL goes forward. Really like him. 4. Artosis -- Like some others eluded to, the dude's got an ego which he readily flaunts. Lacks the fluidity of the other casters. Still talented and knowledgeable. Just not my cup o tea. I will say, however, he was most likable during the Idra/Nony rematch when he was riffing with Tasteless. Thought that bit during the Outsider game was fun. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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CheAse
Canada919 Posts
On February 08 2010 19:45 yarkO wrote: 1) Tasteless/Day9 2) Chill 3) Power Outage 4) Artosis 100% agree | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
The others do well I think, but Day stands out as the best english speaking caster. | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
in the TSL though I'd Say: 1. Artosis, Day[9], Chill, And Tasteless All tied for first. | ||
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lepape
Canada557 Posts
And it's a hard thing to do, he's genuinely excited about every game he casts, even after watching and playing thousands of games during the past 10 years. | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
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se7en247
United States487 Posts
2. Artosis 3. Day[9] 4. Chill | ||
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Angryhorse
Sweden387 Posts
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KwarK
United States42689 Posts
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iNviSible.yunO
Germany211 Posts
On February 08 2010 14:08 Foreplay wrote: i really like tasteless as a solo commentator but he's a little too subdued for my taste when he's co commentating with someone even though still pleasant to listen too. So far in this tournament i'm reallly liking chill/day[9] though the only thing that kind of pisses me off is how day[9] always calls the units pieces agreed. tastless is a natural solo commentator. hes so much better when casting alone. dunno why though. chill is great and so ist day. those guys are a really good team. and pieces.... just stop it ;/. | ||
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Simple
United States801 Posts
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pyrogenetix
China5094 Posts
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YellowEmperor
Taiwan100 Posts
On February 08 2010 14:10 Insane wrote: No offense to the others (they're all top level casters), but I really think Day is the best BW caster of all time. His knowledge of the game, ability to inject humor, and ability to switch casting roles seamlessly is really unparalleled. This is my exact opinion. | ||
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Mista_Masta
Netherlands557 Posts
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
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iNz
Sweden119 Posts
I Have to say I voted for Tasteless as Number one, because I loved him when he casted for GOMTV, I still enjoy his casting nowdays. All other casters I really enjoy too, can't really choose between Artosis, Chill and Day9.. they are honestly all so damn good ;D | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
involuntary rhyme | ||
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wadadde
270 Posts
Strong opinions all round, but I say diversity ftw! Four-way cast of the finals is gonna be awesome!! (voted Artosis.. he's underrated here) | ||
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[Leo]Se7en
United States50 Posts
2. Artosis 3. Tasteless 4. Chill | ||
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yes9111
United States420 Posts
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iliera
Estonia78 Posts
2. chill 3. tasteless 4. artosis | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3110 Posts
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usopsama
6502 Posts
Artosis is my least favorite because of his awkwardness and biases. For example, his awkwardness during the NonY interview was mostly caused by his fanboyism towards idra; I found the whole thing hilarious though. | ||
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Nokeboy
United States1009 Posts
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esReveR
United States567 Posts
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TimmyMac
Canada499 Posts
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nasze_zrodlo
Cape Verde111 Posts
2. chill 3. artosis 4. tasteless | ||
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
Tasteless i.e. seemed to be much more into it this time, giving me a feeling of GOM TV Season 1&2 again. I thought that Chill was brilliant in the semis. Clear and accurate statements all the time and spot on on build orders and strategies. Therefore I hope for Day[9] and Chill in the finals, but I am sure both teams would be awesome. | ||
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
1. Chill - just fits my style more than any of the others, with his dry humor and sarcasm, and he always teaches me more about the game 2. Day[9] - very fun to listen to, sometimes it is a little too breathless for me, but hilarious and injects so much energy while having lots of good stuff too say. 3. Artosis - great knowledge of the game and very accurate in his predictions, but some of the ego comes through as well as the bias, I think he's more comfortable in his solo work for SCforAll 4. Tasteless - kindof like the Boxer of commentating, was THE standard for so long, but isn't quite up to speed on the new way of playing always. All in all, the casts have been amazing so far, and the little nits are more just to differentiate the casters, not actually | ||
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Rufio
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