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SaftKalasEmil
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden213 Posts
January 30 2010 22:35 GMT
#21
On January 31 2010 07:11 tre2ettsexsju wrote:
No worries!



Yeah, Im realy happy that you got it working so fast and made the streem soo good in so short notice when stuff apeard to go so wrong.

So Full credits to you guys and Thanks for evrything that you give!
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #27 SaftKalasEmil.
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
January 30 2010 22:39 GMT
#22
On January 31 2010 05:08 SanguineToss wrote:
No problem, doesn't matter how late we watch the games, as long we get to watch them :D


yea i agree with you, that's all that matters really.
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 30 2010 22:42 GMT
#23

On January 31 2010 05:08 SanguineToss wrote:
No problem, doesn't matter how late we watch the games, as long we get to watch them :D


well a lot of people have limited time, didn't affect me though

also the delay between commentary and video was REALLY bad
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 30 2010 22:46 GMT
#24
also why are these things not tested beforehand? feels weird to be a guinea pig
leMaj24
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States262 Posts
January 30 2010 22:49 GMT
#25
no need to apologize, thanks for all of the hard work you've done for the community
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 30 2010 22:52 GMT
#26
No worries mate! Stream worked great afterwards. Im shure its stressfull enough fixing somehing when thousands of nerds slam at your door. The chat at some point went completely madness XD

The delay between the casters and the game was heartbreaking at some points though. But i guess that had more to do with tasteless & artosis casting from korea?
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
January 30 2010 22:55 GMT
#27
On January 31 2010 07:46 jalstar wrote:
also why are these things not tested beforehand? feels weird to be a guinea pig

Everything was tested and everything worked. There was something about 2000 people connecting at once which upset the program, which shouldn't have happened according to the tests. We'll analyze it next week tomorrow we will be using the software that you used today.
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Shalthrea
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan34 Posts
January 30 2010 23:10 GMT
#28
Agreeing with the rest of posters; considering the work you put in, an apology really is not necessary, and apart from the slight delay in the commentary track the stream worked perfectly after the delay. Even if that delay can not be fixed, the result is still very good, and as long as we can see the games and commentary, I think many of us are completely satisified no matter any delays.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 23:15:13
January 30 2010 23:12 GMT
#29
On January 31 2010 07:46 jalstar wrote:
also why are these things not tested beforehand? feels weird to be a guinea pig

yah ur right, clearly it goes smth like dis:

at stream time, some guy goes into irc, any1 wanna obs? intrigue is like sure ill obs, then goes and dls obsing software, and then while hes doing that someone makes the video intro while someoen else sings the music, and then they ask w/e players r on iccup at the time 2 play, and ask whatever casters r on msn 2 cast, and this time tasteless and artosis were just hanging out at 5am, what luck. and the player video screens just happen 2 be the right order and maps and players, what luck. then someone is like o shit we need 2 stream dis, and they make stream work, conjure servers out of the atmosphere, and create a stream. then r1ch is like wouldnt it be cool to have an overlay, and while tasteless and artosis talk pregame, r1ch programs the overlay, and gives it to the obs nad he uses it and it works fine.

its amazing they can do all that right then without any testing, ur right they shouudl probably test at least some of it
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
January 30 2010 23:18 GMT
#30
chill out, as said as long as it gets going i cant see a problem.

On January 31 2010 08:12 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 07:46 jalstar wrote:
also why are these things not tested beforehand? feels weird to be a guinea pig

yah ur right, clearly it goes smth like dis:

at stream time, some guy goes into irc, any1 wanna obs? intrigue is like sure ill obs, then goes and dls obsing software, and then while hes doing that someone makes the video intro while someoen else sings the music, and then they ask w/e players r on iccup at the time 2 play, and ask whatever casters r on msn 2 cast, and this time tasteless and artosis were just hanging out at 5am, what luck. and the player video screens just happen 2 be the right order and maps and players, what luck. then someone is like o shit we need 2 stream dis, and they make stream work, conjure servers out of the atmosphere, and create a stream. then r1ch is like wouldnt it be cool to have an overlay, and while tasteless and artosis talk pregame, r1ch programs the overlay, and gives it to the obs nad he uses it and it works fine.

its amazing they can do all that right then without any testing, ur right they shouudl probably test at least some of it


nice rant bro
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 30 2010 23:22 GMT
#31
why we dont use p2p-technology as a stream solution
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 23:27:11
January 30 2010 23:26 GMT
#32
On January 31 2010 07:55 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 07:46 jalstar wrote:
also why are these things not tested beforehand? feels weird to be a guinea pig

Everything was tested and everything worked. There was something about 2000 people connecting at once which upset the program, which shouldn't have happened according to the tests. We'll analyze it next week tomorrow we will be using the software that you used today.


ok cool, yeah shit happens but as long as it works fine in the end i'm ok

yah ur right, clearly it goes smth like dis:

at stream time, some guy goes into irc, any1 wanna obs? intrigue is like sure ill obs, then goes and dls obsing software, and then while hes doing that someone makes the video intro while someoen else sings the music, and then they ask w/e players r on iccup at the time 2 play, and ask whatever casters r on msn 2 cast, and this time tasteless and artosis were just hanging out at 5am, what luck. and the player video screens just happen 2 be the right order and maps and players, what luck. then someone is like o shit we need 2 stream dis, and they make stream work, conjure servers out of the atmosphere, and create a stream. then r1ch is like wouldnt it be cool to have an overlay, and while tasteless and artosis talk pregame, r1ch programs the overlay, and gives it to the obs nad he uses it and it works fine.

its amazing they can do all that right then without any testing, ur right they shouudl probably test at least some of it


i don't know what your point is at all
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
January 30 2010 23:29 GMT
#33
On January 31 2010 08:12 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 07:46 jalstar wrote:
also why are these things not tested beforehand? feels weird to be a guinea pig

yah ur right, clearly it goes smth like dis:

at stream time, some guy goes into irc, any1 wanna obs? intrigue is like sure ill obs, then goes and dls obsing software, and then while hes doing that someone makes the video intro while someoen else sings the music, and then they ask w/e players r on iccup at the time 2 play, and ask whatever casters r on msn 2 cast, and this time tasteless and artosis were just hanging out at 5am, what luck. and the player video screens just happen 2 be the right order and maps and players, what luck. then someone is like o shit we need 2 stream dis, and they make stream work, conjure servers out of the atmosphere, and create a stream. then r1ch is like wouldnt it be cool to have an overlay, and while tasteless and artosis talk pregame, r1ch programs the overlay, and gives it to the obs nad he uses it and it works fine.

its amazing they can do all that right then without any testing, ur right they shouudl probably test at least some of it

hahahaha
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4668 Posts
January 30 2010 23:41 GMT
#34
I love R1CH
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 23:50:27
January 30 2010 23:45 GMT
#35
No worries man. My friends were about an hour late anyway, so because of this they didn't miss anything :D Talk about ee-han-timing!

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously though, insane respect just for being able to work under pressure like that. I love the commitment TL has to providing content. Lesser sites would have have given up and rescheduled.


LOL baller you're the best.
i don't know what your point is at all

His point is no matter how much you test, there's always something you couldn't test. In this case it was 2000 people trying to watch at the same time (as opposed to loads of maybe under 100 that they could have realistically tried).
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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
January 31 2010 00:30 GMT
#36
I am actually pretty shocked that even into the Ro16 the stream doesn't die mid-cast. That's an impressive feat afaik.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 01:02:10
January 31 2010 01:00 GMT
#37
That's alright man! The VODs are as good as live anyway
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Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
January 31 2010 01:01 GMT
#38
np thx anyway
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
January 31 2010 01:17 GMT
#39
On January 31 2010 08:12 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 07:46 jalstar wrote:
also why are these things not tested beforehand? feels weird to be a guinea pig

yah ur right, clearly it goes smth like dis:

at stream time, some guy goes into irc, any1 wanna obs? intrigue is like sure ill obs, then goes and dls obsing software, and then while hes doing that someone makes the video intro while someoen else sings the music, and then they ask w/e players r on iccup at the time 2 play, and ask whatever casters r on msn 2 cast, and this time tasteless and artosis were just hanging out at 5am, what luck. and the player video screens just happen 2 be the right order and maps and players, what luck. then someone is like o shit we need 2 stream dis, and they make stream work, conjure servers out of the atmosphere, and create a stream. then r1ch is like wouldnt it be cool to have an overlay, and while tasteless and artosis talk pregame, r1ch programs the overlay, and gives it to the obs nad he uses it and it works fine.

its amazing they can do all that right then without any testing, ur right they shouudl probably test at least some of it

hahahahahahaha

I don't know what's more funny, this post or the fact that jalstar didn't get it
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
January 31 2010 01:22 GMT
#40
On January 31 2010 08:22 emucxg wrote:
why we dont use p2p-technology as a stream solution


problem is that that requires a software install on your computer and to maximize efficiency everyone with a router would need to open a port. Also the feeling towards this has been quite negative around the community (ESL is using octoshape which some cleavery guys has renamed octoshit and refuses to use because it uses their bandwidth)

another problem with this is for users of wireless that can experience trouble since the wireless communication is semiduplex which means you cant send and recive wireless signals at the same time. this is not a common problems but people with slower/older routers might experiance it and it can cause lags. even if you're at a full duplex lan connection you often experience problems when your upload is full. take me for example, I have a 10/10 connection and when I watch streams I usually limit my torrent-software to 900kb/s so I have some room to prevent these issues.

Despite these problems I would welcome a P2P-solution since I know its cheaper for TL, but the technical difficulties that might pop up can be hard to solve and I think the TL staff has shown that they want everyone who wants to enjoy this as easy as possible

also @ R1CH:
you're still better then MBC
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