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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 21 2009 22:08 GMT
#81
On December 22 2009 02:11 HazMat wrote:
I gotta agree about kolll not making it


I don't know about that, he might make it farther than people think.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 22 2009 01:54 GMT
#82
youtubes are up:



Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
December 22 2009 02:13 GMT
#83
Man I love it when I see Artosis vids popping up and this one doesn't disappoint either. Had me rofl'ing multiple times.
觀過斯知仁矣.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
December 22 2009 02:30 GMT
#84
its either Naugrim or Kolll in group B, depending on who's better at ZvZ, im hoping naugrim
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
December 22 2009 02:49 GMT
#85
I think he underestimates marwin..
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 22 2009 02:49 GMT
#86
Kolll is still a bit of an unknown, I really hope that he advances so we can see more games of him
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
December 22 2009 04:30 GMT
#87
Pretty awesome, thanks for the interview once again!

It defenitly helped to enlighten me on some players I don't know much about
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 05:14:26
December 22 2009 05:14 GMT
#88
Ok, the first 2 minutes I was crying with laughter.

Nemu hwaiting.
Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
December 22 2009 05:57 GMT
#89
Lol "Bulgarians don't fuck around."
seNsiX.421
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
December 22 2009 06:55 GMT
#90
who is Gosi[Terran]? any reps of him?
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
December 22 2009 08:50 GMT
#91
Thanks, really good people's takes on things are always interesting.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 22 2009 11:14 GMT
#92
actually i think kolll has two big flaws in his games:

one is simply his inexpierence. he plays the game for only a few years compared to many guys in this taking part who have a much deeper understanding of the game ( many played it since 99 or even 98 )

his macro. I dont know if its cause he used to be a wc3 player but his weak spot in his zvp e.g. is that he simply seems not to be able to play 5 hatch drone whoring style like hayder or ret are able to..

but ZvZ is always pretty rnd anyways.. so we will see naugrim or kolll have octzerg waíting, too
hatred outlives the hateful
groro
Profile Joined March 2009
67 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 11:53:28
December 22 2009 11:53 GMT
#93
On December 22 2009 20:14 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
actually i think kolll has two big flaws in his games:

one is simply his inexpierence. he plays the game for only a few years compared to many guys in this taking part who have a much deeper understanding of the game ( many played it since 99 or even 98 )

his macro. I dont know if its cause he used to be a wc3 player but his weak spot in his zvp e.g. is that he simply seems not to be able to play 5 hatch drone whoring style like hayder or ret are able to..

but ZvZ is always pretty rnd anyways.. so we will see naugrim or kolll have octzerg waíting, too


maybe i am wrong but in that wcg games that i saw i also had the feeling that his sim city isnt sharped clean. then you are much more vulnerable to this zealot attacks. in the game draco vs jaedong the sim city looked so perfect. sunkens were hard to reach because of other buildings in the way and placed so that he also can defend it nice with drone slides.
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
December 22 2009 12:35 GMT
#94
On December 22 2009 20:14 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
actually i think kolll has two big flaws in his games:

one is simply his inexpierence. he plays the game for only a few years compared to many guys in this taking part who have a much deeper understanding of the game ( many played it since 99 or even 98 )

his macro. I dont know if its cause he used to be a wc3 player but his weak spot in his zvp e.g. is that he simply seems not to be able to play 5 hatch drone whoring style like hayder or ret are able to..

but ZvZ is always pretty rnd anyways.. so we will see naugrim or kolll have octzerg waíting, too

lol... you can only talk bullshit right Phil?
His macro actually is pretty damn good, how often do you have played him?
You just hate him cuz he played w3 once?
Unexperienced?!?!?!? Tell me ONE player that had the experience to play 3 of the 4 best players in this world in his first 1-2 years?!
He's not unexperienced, kid is rock solid and has nerves of steel.
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
December 22 2009 12:55 GMT
#95
On December 22 2009 20:14 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
actually i think kolll has two big flaws in his games:


How many games did you play vs him?
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 22 2009 13:20 GMT
#96
On December 22 2009 21:35 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 20:14 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
actually i think kolll has two big flaws in his games:

one is simply his inexpierence. he plays the game for only a few years compared to many guys in this taking part who have a much deeper understanding of the game ( many played it since 99 or even 98 )

his macro. I dont know if its cause he used to be a wc3 player but his weak spot in his zvp e.g. is that he simply seems not to be able to play 5 hatch drone whoring style like hayder or ret are able to..

but ZvZ is always pretty rnd anyways.. so we will see naugrim or kolll have octzerg waíting, too

lol... you can only talk bullshit right Phil?
His macro actually is pretty damn good, how often do you have played him?
You just hate him cuz he played w3 once?
Unexperienced?!?!?!? Tell me ONE player that had the experience to play 3 of the 4 best players in this world in his first 1-2 years?!
He's not unexperienced, kid is rock solid and has nerves of steel.


Im not talking about LAN experience but for HOW LONG he is playing the game at such a high level. Compare this with Mondragon, ret and many others

I do not hate him everyone here knows Im a big fan

His macro might be good but most of the time i watched his ZvPs it felt as if he just isnt that good at it and somehow does not exploit drone whoring enough and is not expanding that much in general..

He is for SURE not as experienced with tournament play as Mondragon, ret , idra and many others.. a handfull of tsl players...

and now calm down..

actually I wrote this after i saw haypro and ret play zvp and compared them to a few kolll zvps and I just saw the difference and I dont know if its macro, experience or a dislike for this match up but .. whatever..
hatred outlives the hateful
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 13:55:26
December 22 2009 13:47 GMT
#97
If you play this game like 1/4th the time most others have played it then yes you are going to be less experienced. But you claim to know Kolll's weakness based on absolutely nothing. Lack of experience is rarely a weakness in SC.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 22 2009 14:10 GMT
#98
On December 22 2009 15:55 ilj.psa wrote:
who is Gosi[Terran]? any reps of him?

Really young, promising but very unproven Terran from Mexico. Artosis thinks he has a lot of raw talent and darkhorse potential. At WCG he disappointed though, going 1-5? in his group.
✌
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
December 22 2009 16:57 GMT
#99
On December 22 2009 03:02 meathook wrote:
Thanks. This was very interesting.. strangely, he claims that Gamtja is the most undeserving person in the groups.


Gamtja's definitely one of the most undeserving. His Austrian internet lags as if he were from China or Peru (probably what got him all the points, he was practically playing on game speed fast all his games). Macro is abysmal, like B-, and this is in fast game speed, imagine how bad it is in fastest.

Trick to beating him? Don't be fooled into being too aggressive due to the lag. You'll feel as if you had ought to have made an attack by some point, but the normal timing for that attack, adjusting for lag and altered game speed, will prolly will be a few minutes into the future.

Also you'll pretty much always have twice the amount of workers he has by the 10 minute mark, so just focus on surviving.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
December 22 2009 17:24 GMT
#100
lol, if Sawyer was german he would win for sure!
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
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