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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:43 StylishVODs wrote: I hope this leads to datoby qualifing, man he was so close, i think he actually got to 9700 like 5 min after the end or something.. Iccup says that he's 9775 so I would say he's safely in. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:46 meeple wrote: Iccup says that he's 9775 so I would say he's safely in. yeah but his last game started like exactly 4am so i donnu if it counts  Sad to see so many people abuse in such a great event with so much money on the line. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:48 StylishVODs wrote: yeah but his last game started like exactly 4am so i donnu if it counts Sad to see so many people abuse in such a great event with so much money on the line. his last 2 games won't count, they were started after 06:00:00 iCCup time | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:50 d(O.o)a wrote: So who is TSL-Mercury? a new player thats new to the foreign scene like scan. and based on the cheating they seem to be friends | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:50 d(O.o)a wrote: So who is TSL-Mercury? OP: TSL-Scan played four games (4-0) against two accounts: ImAsian and Mpisnw. These four games were played from an IP address that matches TSL-Mercury. Additionally, these two accounts were used by TSL-Scan as well. This is dissapointing ofc, but on the bright side...They got caught in abusing and therefore don't deserve to participate... My dick is still hard for TSL. | ||
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baller
527 Posts
also TSL-Scam haha | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:56 baller wrote: is it true yosh real name is "Surewin"? also TSL-Scam haha scan.. | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:56 baller wrote: is it true yosh real name is "Surewin"? also TSL-Scam haha Sherwin | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:43 StylishVODs wrote: I hope this leads to datoby qualifing, man he was so close, i think he actually got to 9700 like 5 min after the end or something.. I'm pretty sure more people will get caught =) | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
romanian or am i? | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
WTB new Terran idol. pm I'm lookin at you, Kawaii!  | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
 Shame on all of you cheaters. Very disappointing and thanks to those guys in like.. 49 - 55 for not cheating your way into the 48.  | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:55 XsebT wrote: This is dissapointing ofc, but on the bright side...They got caught in abusing and therefore don't deserve to participate... My dick is still hard for TSL. The quote from the OP simply says taht ImAsian and Mpisnw which are 2 randoma ccounts are TSL-Mercury I was wondering if they're actually somebody who isn't a total random. | ||
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ketomai
United States2789 Posts
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JoMal
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
you ain't scan... either way, the most fitting name would've been TSL-Stupid or TSL-maybeishouldhavethoughtthisoutfirstdamnit | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On December 13 2009 16:18 JoMal wrote: Will we still get yosh's reppack =p ? I'm assuming we'll get it if he submitted it. But since he's no longer in the TSL he's no longer obligated to submit it. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:05 Chill wrote: Here's the difference, Kwark. I comment on the topic and people's replies. You always, always enter a thread to talk about yourself. It's getting so tired. I thought Kwark made a good point about how some people's priorities were out of whack. I didn't find it to be egotistical because a lot of players have been hounded for being strategic with their opponent choices (a.k.a. dodging). For instance, from the Morrow interview: + Show Spoiler + I don’t feel like I am in a position to trash other gamers underneath me in this ladder since I’ve also had my fair amount of dodging^^ Altho I do think it’s weak of people who bm the ones who dodge them, and I think its weak to lie to your opponent make up fake excuses not to play, but I don’t think its weak to dodge somebody. When I dodge somebody I just tell them the truth. Players like iNcontrol who I said “i can’t play more today cause i must go soon etc” started bming me and even bringing it up on the TL forum. Guys like Tarson and Terran which I’ve simple told “i dont wanna play you cause your too good” (TvT) and then they start flaming me etc I think this is really weak. It’s also really annoying with the guys who say “sorry i need to warm up” then you ask them 30 minutes later they say “i must eat” and it goes on like this forever. Dodging is OK - lieing and bming is not… we all want a high spot in TSL it’s our natural instinct to dodge so just accept it. Oh yes and a last thing, you should’nt bm somebody because of their game style like many people do. Don’t let the game impact you emotionally, just learn to defend it instead of nerd raging… that is just pathetic. The whole ladder is gonna be a jumbled mess to sort through so I don't envy whoever has to sort that mess out. It's a ton of work for TL when the TSL team has already done yeoman work to catch all sorts of illicit behavior. But, yeah, there are abusers. And then plenty of people unknowingly profiting off abusers (pretty sure Ret and Idra both played Yosh, and how could they not when sharing top ladder space). Some people like Morrow and maybe Kwark probably saw people higher than they deserved to be in the ladder and tried to aim for them (some of them lucky, some of them abusers), but they can't really be blamed, especially when the TSL chose to kind of hang back on enforcement in order to collect the maximum amount of info before acting (which also means the maximum amount of accuracy and work, probably). The ladder format has its weaknesses and strengths. It's open to mass participation by members of this great community. It's also open to grey area practices like dodging, but more draconian rules about matchups would be frustrating. It's also open to abuse with multiple accounts and the like. Bottom line is that I feel the TSL admins are doing a great job and I appreciate it; I also think we should save our pitchforks and torches for real abusers. If you have a problem with what Kwark and Morrow have been (allegedly and hopefully) doing, see if you can draft some ladder rules to prevent that kind of behavior without creating worse problems that outweigh the benefit of the rules. | ||
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