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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:19 sMi.MeOw wrote: so he abused 2 games? while using diff accounts to not lose with his original acc... so 57-0 becomes 55-0 and is still technically legit? if that's the case it's still an achievement... He abused games after the end of his winning streak. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:22 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: Look, I understand why you guys would want to DQ people for abusing etc, but some people, like Advokate and Yosh would have been qualified even with the "abuse" games removed, and should have just had points removed. All your doing is removing competition for IdrA/Ret. an abuser is still an abuser. Don't condone their actions. They would have qualified, but tried to take the easy way out, they got caught, now face the penalty of it. Regardless of their skill, an abuse is still an abuse. | ||
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butter
United States785 Posts
On December 13 2009 15:03 John49ers wrote: Wasn't Yosh one of the guest Teachers for the Berkeley starcraft class? I wonder what the students will think? Now he can do a lecture on how not to cheat. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On December 13 2009 16:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Are we please going to move back to the days that cheaters are relentlessly harassed until after grueling periods of time they earn trust again. Cause seriously, I would be pissed to see any of the big names in any major tournaments (or future TL ones) after all this. Just sickening. What days were those? Because I seem to remember Elky and Smuft stealing money right out of this communitys pockets and people still love them lol. Not saying its right but we have always been a pretty relaxed community when it comes to this stuff. No one ever really gets black balled for long. Map hacking seems to be the only taboo BW players really get up in arms about. Look at Testies no matter what he does the first thing most people think when they see his name is "hacker" | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:26 InToTheWannaB wrote: What days were those? Because I seem to remember Elky and Smuft stealing money right out of this communitys pockets and people still love them lol. Not saying its right but we have always been a pretty relaxed community when it comes to this stuff. No one ever really gets black balled for long. Map hacking seems to be the only taboo BW players really get up in arms about. Look at Testies no matter what he does the first thing most people think when they see his name is "hacker" Map hacking is a taboo, don't get me wrong. But seriously, look at what Testie had to do to get his name "cleared" to the point he could game. Yes people still think hacker at his name, but they can also appreciate the ability he had, as once he went legit and really worked his ass off he became one of the best players in the foreigner scene. Then all the other known maphackers also got persecuted and booted from the community. The people who are abusing ladders are no different. Its arguably worse of a crime to abuse a ladder for free wins, than use a maphack and still have to earn it (although at an advantage). This is a slope that a tournament moderator can crack down on, but without a community really getting angry at it, rather than accepting it and going "well he had his reasons" nothing will change. As for Elky and smuft, stealing cash. Yes it was douchebaggish and the like. Truth be told I still don't like smuft. Elky I respect for his ability at poker/sc, but past that I don't know how much he has changed, so hes still a douche in my eyes. | ||
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sMi.MeOw
New Zealand160 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:22 Boblion wrote: He abused games after the end of his winning streak. now i really think of him as a tard who believes in gimmicks rather than his skills... | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
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BadBinky
Finland649 Posts
So Yosh got caught from 2 games. Who knows how many he actually abused? | ||
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annYeong(o11)
Canada784 Posts
shame because he really didn't need to | ||
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
On December 13 2009 14:32 KwarK wrote: You know what, this actually makes me feel pretty vindicated. I got so much random crap thrown at me because I purposefully sought out players I knew I could beat and farmed them but not once did I consider asking someone to throw a game or utilising one of my other B+ accounts to throw myself games. These are what actual abusers look like. Let's see how the mob treats their heroes now. What you did is fun to make fun of, but there's nothing legitimately wrong with it. OH AND EVERYONE I LOST TO IN THE LAST DAY THAT MADE TOP 48 I GAVE FREE WINS TO PLEASE BAN THEM THANKS | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
i just don't understand he's easily top 10 caliber player whyyyy | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
what was the point in your dumbass abusing 2 games? seriously you're just a moron now | ||
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annYeong(o11)
Canada784 Posts
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DrTJEckleburg
United States1080 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:45 annYeong(o11) wrote: yosh would have been 13th without the 194 points from playing with himself, sigh Yeah gotta love how the last two games on his match list are the ones he abused in, absurd. Course that doesn't take into consideration how many people he played on another account(s). | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:45 annYeong(o11) wrote: yosh would have been 13th without the 194 points from playing with himself, sigh Don't forget about him using a smurf name to play others at no disadvantage to his main name. | ||
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Mr Right
Sweden67 Posts
another abuser most likely, the question is if you can prove who this account belongs to. | ||
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annYeong(o11)
Canada784 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Don't forget about him using a smurf name to play others at no disadvantage to his main name. yeah that was IMO worse than the 2 games, becaus ehe's getting all the info about competitors without reciprocating or risking his precisous rank, | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9107 Posts
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annYeong(o11)
Canada784 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:56 Jonoman92 wrote: Dunno much about the other players but really disappointing to hear about Yosh. I was looking forward to seeing some nice games from him and I wonder how he'd do vs other top foreigners. same here, i've seen him kick ass in the CSL when he's playing scrubs for the most part, and a lot of his 57 game streak was against less than B-, would have been good to see him in his element | ||
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