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On December 07 2009 09:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2009 09:04 eXigent. wrote:On December 07 2009 08:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On December 07 2009 08:19 eXigent. wrote:On December 07 2009 01:31 ftb wrote:
I don't know why you guys are so upset about kwark and morrow abusing their ways to the TSL. The ladder ist kinda irrelevant anyway. JF was only ranked 18th last time and still made his way up. Players who have potencial to get even into the top 16 will be in the top 48 at least and they gonna steamroll the players who dont deserve their ranks. I mean in the moment you see morrow higher ranked than ret or f91, you realize that the ladder is a piece of shit when it comes down to measuring the players skill, jzst because it is a ladder in a ladder as nony said.
So relax, it doesnt matter how high one is ranked. Even if White-Ra is #48, he still will make his way throug the qualification and end up in the elimination rounds and morrow will still get his ass kicked.
Justice will be done eventually. (epic dramatic line to end this post of nensense.) speaking about morrow, maybe you should look at his matchlist before just assuming that he is pure trash and undeserving of his spot. He has beaten: haypro nyoken incontrol fenix squall octzerg mana goody alf deska horror mamon praetor fraer mondragon sen white-ra yayba xiaozi kr predator ptak dimaga shad I would say he is more than just some low level player inflating his rank. He deserves to be where he is at, and saying otherwise is just dumb thinking. His ZvT's hardly count dude. He does a proxy rax on 5-6 and blocks you in on HBR. He then brings 5-6 more scv's and if it fails he does a 1 base 4 rax sunk break all in with cut scv's. YOu may call that "good" I call it a joke. Btw after he did it to me I asked for re and he said "You aree too good to bo3, I can only cheese" or something to that affect. He is actually as bad as they say. 3-0ing haypro and 3-0ing dimaga would suggest he knows more than just cheese. He also beat mondi in a 25min game on othello. I think his TvZ is more than just what you are saying. Sure he cheeses, and gets wins that way, but he is still capable of beating these players straight up. Unless you are saying someone of Dimagas skill can still lose 3 times to the exact same cheese. You can't say he is horrible when he still beats these players, cheese or not. I guess when the time comes, we shall see if he can move on. My point is the time HAS come, and came and gone.. MANY times and guess what he has won? Nothing. He gets A on a ladder by mixing cheese in with some mediocre straight up play and people start heralding him as some kind of good player.. it sickens those that KNOW him. He will lose to the first T he plays. He will lose to the first P he plays. And he MIGHT hero a win vs a Z but not with him as high in the qualifiers as he is.. whoever he faces will be thankful for the free win.
Incontrol, he stated that he hasn't played with the eg players and ret and crew for a long time. In that time, is it not possible that he has improved a bunch? No matter how you look at it, 3-0'ing haypro and dimaga can't just be luck and 6 rax. I'm not saying he's good enough to be top 5 foreigners, but he's definitely not as terrible as you say, and most definitely not a "free win". He has a weak matchup, TvT, but it seems he was able to keep up w/ nyoken, who is known for is strong TvT as well.
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On December 07 2009 15:20 MrWinkles wrote:
At this point in time, only 7 of top 48 are toss... is anyone else worried about not seeing toss in the Tournament?
I guess nony counts for 8 or 49...
Draco is toss, too, which is refreshing. I'm hoping we'll see at least two tosses in the ro8, but it looks unlikely.
On a side note, go incontrol! 
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On December 07 2009 15:20 tinman wrote:
I'm sorry if this has already been said but:
HELL FUCKING YES GO DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!
This cannot be emphasized enough. Drone qualifying = sex
Keep those eyes on the prize man!
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On December 07 2009 15:42 ketomai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2009 09:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On December 07 2009 09:04 eXigent. wrote:On December 07 2009 08:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On December 07 2009 08:19 eXigent. wrote:On December 07 2009 01:31 ftb wrote:
I don't know why you guys are so upset about kwark and morrow abusing their ways to the TSL. The ladder ist kinda irrelevant anyway. JF was only ranked 18th last time and still made his way up. Players who have potencial to get even into the top 16 will be in the top 48 at least and they gonna steamroll the players who dont deserve their ranks. I mean in the moment you see morrow higher ranked than ret or f91, you realize that the ladder is a piece of shit when it comes down to measuring the players skill, jzst because it is a ladder in a ladder as nony said.
So relax, it doesnt matter how high one is ranked. Even if White-Ra is #48, he still will make his way throug the qualification and end up in the elimination rounds and morrow will still get his ass kicked.
Justice will be done eventually. (epic dramatic line to end this post of nensense.) speaking about morrow, maybe you should look at his matchlist before just assuming that he is pure trash and undeserving of his spot. He has beaten: haypro nyoken incontrol fenix squall octzerg mana goody alf deska horror mamon praetor fraer mondragon sen white-ra yayba xiaozi kr predator ptak dimaga shad I would say he is more than just some low level player inflating his rank. He deserves to be where he is at, and saying otherwise is just dumb thinking. His ZvT's hardly count dude. He does a proxy rax on 5-6 and blocks you in on HBR. He then brings 5-6 more scv's and if it fails he does a 1 base 4 rax sunk break all in with cut scv's. YOu may call that "good" I call it a joke. Btw after he did it to me I asked for re and he said "You aree too good to bo3, I can only cheese" or something to that affect. He is actually as bad as they say. 3-0ing haypro and 3-0ing dimaga would suggest he knows more than just cheese. He also beat mondi in a 25min game on othello. I think his TvZ is more than just what you are saying. Sure he cheeses, and gets wins that way, but he is still capable of beating these players straight up. Unless you are saying someone of Dimagas skill can still lose 3 times to the exact same cheese. You can't say he is horrible when he still beats these players, cheese or not. I guess when the time comes, we shall see if he can move on. My point is the time HAS come, and came and gone.. MANY times and guess what he has won? Nothing. He gets A on a ladder by mixing cheese in with some mediocre straight up play and people start heralding him as some kind of good player.. it sickens those that KNOW him. He will lose to the first T he plays. He will lose to the first P he plays. And he MIGHT hero a win vs a Z but not with him as high in the qualifiers as he is.. whoever he faces will be thankful for the free win. Incontrol, he stated that he hasn't played with the eg players and ret and crew for a long time. In that time, is it not possible that he has improved a bunch? No matter how you look at it, 3-0'ing haypro and dimaga can't just be luck and 6 rax. I'm not saying he's good enough to be top 5 foreigners, but he's definitely not as terrible as you say, and most definitely not a "free win". He has a weak matchup, TvT, but it seems he was able to keep up w/ nyoken, who is known for is strong TvT as well.
A guy who has conducted himself as he has in this ladder deserves no respect. He got 3-0'd by Paranoid and called him "bad" afterwards. There are countless stories like this.. an individual on this ladder that dodges and cheeses. Yes he has some nice wins. No that doesn't make him really good.
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On December 07 2009 15:20 MrWinkles wrote:
At this point in time, only 7 of top 48 are toss... is anyone else worried about not seeing toss in the Tournament?
I guess nony counts for 8 or 49...
Don't forget Draco and JF, they're seeded in the ro16.
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Please make it Koll!!! I don't know why I doubt, it just seems like no time is left.
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best picture EVER
I have 2 of those LOVE EM
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That is so so so awesome.
KWARK HWAITING~!
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On December 07 2009 12:30 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2009 08:59 iloahz wrote:
Well then I have no more words. Let's see what happens in a month, whether f91 can rape everyone his meets, like he always did in previous TL events. that'll be a completely separate accomplishment from what he's done on the ladder. the only point i was making is that props shouldnt be handed out for playing normally. go out of your way to play the best people on the ladder, any matchup any map, and come out with a great record? ok, props. play normally and get a record that is expected of him in the first place? congrats for qualifying, but nothing special about it.
So can you fill the question mark?
People who only tough opponents = props
People who play normally = no comment either way
People who purposely dodge tough opponents = ???
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Glad to see Yosh and Eri up there!
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On December 07 2009 17:28 AttackZerg wrote:
That is so so so awesome.
KWARK HWAITING~!
Kwark is the everyman - the true Darvin Moon of Starcraft
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Didn't expect to see GhosTa in Top48!
GoGo GhosTa, Closer, HoRRoRm, iNfeRnaL, aCe, kolll
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On December 07 2009 17:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:best picture EVER I have 2 of those LOVE EM
Now all you need to do is take that pitbull Conrad I showed you a pic of.
That dogs been at the shelter since February >.<
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€: oh wow nvm t.t
go kolll xD
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If kolll dosen't make it blame infernal =p
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I hope DaZe continues playing and reaches the qualifiers. #97 with 60-12 so far. He should be able to make it if he just puts his mind to it.
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If kolll dosen't make it blame infernal =p
i'll blame his parents.
<3 koll
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