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nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-07 00:58:20
December 07 2009 00:57 GMT
#1601
Wow, nice streak by nyoken's...he is getting very high in the ladder
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 07 2009 01:07 GMT
#1602
On December 07 2009 09:52 Beside_kr wrote:
I hope when TL announces the people qualified they make a special mention of Mamon from Russia who, so far, has played almost 600 games of Starcraft on the TSL ladder. I really commend that, what a champion


He is a bm jack ass too

Yes he played an amazing amount of games but he flamed me in during game, in channel and whispered me for a few minutes while he vented it all off. I 12 expanded and he 2 hatch in main..
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
December 07 2009 01:26 GMT
#1603
2-1 Fenix then 3-1 Fenix that's nice Inc :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 07 2009 01:37 GMT
#1604
On December 07 2009 10:26 Boblion wrote:
2-1 Fenix then 3-1 Fenix that's nice Inc :p


ya too bad those skills didnt come out during the pan american tourney >.<! would of been awesome to have you win it all
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 07 2009 01:52 GMT
#1605
hopefully I will get the chance next time
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 07 2009 02:07 GMT
#1606
Who is Chosen with the US flag?
Never Knows Best.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 07 2009 02:12 GMT
#1607
i want to see incontrol vs morrow bo5
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-07 02:19:24
December 07 2009 02:19 GMT
#1608
On December 07 2009 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Who is Chosen with the US flag?
Chosen is Chosen. It's not a smurf. He's one of the strongest American Zerg players.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 07 2009 02:30 GMT
#1609
On December 07 2009 11:12 OneOther wrote:
i want to see incontrol vs morrow bo5


same here. I tried today, he said "go 3 game" but after I raped him game 2 (he said I got lucky, lol, can show rep if we like) and then he "had to go"

He says he will play me tomorrow. We'll see!
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
December 07 2009 02:40 GMT
#1610
i think everyone wants to see the rep
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 07 2009 03:30 GMT
#1611
On December 07 2009 08:59 iloahz wrote:
Well then I have no more words. Let's see what happens in a month, whether f91 can rape everyone his meets, like he always did in previous TL events.

that'll be a completely separate accomplishment from what he's done on the ladder. the only point i was making is that props shouldnt be handed out for playing normally. go out of your way to play the best people on the ladder, any matchup any map, and come out with a great record? ok, props. play normally and get a record that is expected of him in the first place? congrats for qualifying, but nothing special about it.

what im interested to see in a month is whether he'll lag
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-07 04:00:50
December 07 2009 03:59 GMT
#1612
o lol already discussed.
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
December 07 2009 05:25 GMT
#1613
On December 07 2009 00:13 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 00:03 LeoTheLion wrote:
mad props to f91. he has almost exclusively played koreans/non-TSL people to get to where he is. gogo f91!!

haha why does that get props? i think ideally TSL would have its own ladder and not be a ladder within a ladder. it kinda just sucks when people don't get to play most of their games against other TSL participants. i certainly wouldnt encourage it

it's gonna be really sad if you say he deserves props cuz non-TSL players are generally better than TSL players. this is supposed to be kinda a prestigious event... and i think it is :o


So here's the thing. If 50 people in a group play each other once, the net margin is 50 points per game (not MOTW) or 80 points per game (MOTW). Let's be generous and say 50 points per game. So every round, the average points of the players goes up 50 points. This can keep on happening to B+ rank, until players hit A-. Only when they hit green does the pool lose 10 points.

Since TSL people are almost exclusively playing TSL people, they are just adding points to the TSL pool. Theoretically a group of C- players could get up to high B+ like this.

However F91 got up to A- from a much larger pool, what skill levels A/B/C/D really are on iccup, and not because of circlejerking points from other TSL members. Whether or not he deserves "mad props" is subjective dependent on the person, but I think it's pretty impressive. He has achieved a "real" A rank on iccup.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
December 07 2009 05:41 GMT
#1614
wow how funny.

After all that shit where people defended semih he dropped 400~(from 9000~ to 8600~) points and then reset .... with what four days left?

I wanted to be proven wrong and have some guy I dominate turn out to be some a- american toss that would mean that I wasn't nearly as bad as those of you who actually know me know I am.


iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 07 2009 05:45 GMT
#1615
there is 1 week left not 4 days
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
December 07 2009 05:48 GMT
#1616
On December 07 2009 14:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
there is 1 week left not 4 days

I thought it was the tenth? ... guess I'm wrong.


but that changes everything then right? It wasn't a brilliant dodge of replay analyse/abuse detection it was a fresh start!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44166 Posts
December 07 2009 05:57 GMT
#1617
On December 07 2009 04:23 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 03:01 KwarK wrote:
Way too tired to be playing but hungry for points. If this goes badly I could tilt. That'll be interesting.

-600 and counting.

Low point at -1100 points after some insano tilting builds and playing B ranks for -200 points a shot. Back up to A- (just) and I'm gonna call it even and cut my losses for the night.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
December 07 2009 06:20 GMT
#1618
I'm sorry if this has already been said but:

HELL FUCKING YES GO DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
MrWinkles
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States200 Posts
December 07 2009 06:20 GMT
#1619
At this point in time, only 7 of top 48 are toss... is anyone else worried about not seeing toss in the Tournament?

I guess nony counts for 8 or 49...
What does the knight do?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 07 2009 06:27 GMT
#1620
On December 07 2009 14:48 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 14:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
there is 1 week left not 4 days

I thought it was the tenth? ... guess I'm wrong.


but that changes everything then right? It wasn't a brilliant dodge of replay analyse/abuse detection it was a fresh start!


No it doesn't change everything but spreading misinformation is bad. So I corrected you.
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