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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here. Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue. Keep it civil. NOTE: For those of you who want to find the actual ABL thread where the bans are posted. Please look in here: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/ | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
BennySEA was just banned by Manifesto7. That account was created on 2011-12-17 09:11:44 and had 20 posts. Reason: Makes shitty topics. Grow up before discussing big boy ideas. How can someone make so many bad threads and not get the hint? They belong in blogs! | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On January 24 2012 20:32 Hassybaby wrote: How can someone make so many bad threads and not get the hint? They belong in blogs! Hahahaha his threads were entertaining, to say the least. Too bad he only made 2 controversial threads, I really wanted to see where he would have taken us next. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
I wouldn't mind being "first blood" | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On January 24 2012 16:37 Craton wrote: The phrasing on the last part was bad, but his overall thought wasn't wrong, which was elaborated on later posts. His tone was also civil. A week is extremely harsh. Clearly the ban was too harsh. But if you haven't learned this yet, tree hugger has a propensity to ban people who express opinions he doesn't agree with, particularly those of a "limited government" variety. The moment Hider made a link to Mises, he had a death sentence over his account. Of course, TH has the sense to wait for the poster to make some small error, to mispeak or say something unpopular or something that can be taken out of context, before banning them. Usually no one has the balls to point these types of things out, but when they do, the go-to argument in these types of cases is to always assume that the posters history is shit and justifies anything a mod ever does, without actually looking up their history and judging for yourself. It's the classic "god works in mysterious ways" type of justification. The reality is that certain people get tired of hearing certain arguments in certain threads, and feel it would be better for everyone if the arguments just went away. This is where all the sheeple point me to the ten commandments and the fact that the mods never believed in free expression or the tolerance of diverse opinions in the first place. And people call this a "mature" community lawl. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On January 25 2012 02:16 jdseemoreglass wrote: Clearly the ban was too harsh. But if you haven't learned this yet, tree hugger has a propensity to ban people who express opinions he doesn't agree with, particularly those of a "limited government" variety. The moment Hider made a link to Mises, he had a death sentence over his account. Of course, TH has the sense to wait for the poster to make some small error, to mispeak or say something unpopular or something that can be taken out of context, before banning them. Usually no one has the balls to point these types of things out, but when they do, the go-to argument in these types of cases is to always assume that the posters history is shit and justifies anything a mod ever does, without actually looking up their history and judging for yourself. It's the classic "god works in mysterious ways" type of justification. The reality is that certain people get tired of hearing certain arguments in certain threads, and feel it would be better for everyone if the arguments just went away. This is where all the sheeple point me to the ten commandments and the fact that the mods never believed in free expression or the tolerance of diverse opinions in the first place. And people call this a "mature" community lawl. I could write a detailed post describing why everything you said is completely wrong, but I think it would be a waste of my time. If you don't like it here then leave. Go post on reddit for a while and let us know how mature that community is. | ||
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Griffiththehawk
United States14 Posts
On January 25 2012 02:16 jdseemoreglass wrote: Clearly the ban was too harsh. But if you haven't learned this yet, tree hugger has a propensity to ban people who express opinions he doesn't agree with, particularly those of a "limited government" variety. The moment Hider made a link to Mises, he had a death sentence over his account. Of course, TH has the sense to wait for the poster to make some small error, to mispeak or say something unpopular or something that can be taken out of context, before banning them. Usually no one has the balls to point these types of things out, but when they do, the go-to argument in these types of cases is to always assume that the posters history is shit and justifies anything a mod ever does, without actually looking up their history and judging for yourself. It's the classic "god works in mysterious ways" type of justification. The reality is that certain people get tired of hearing certain arguments in certain threads, and feel it would be better for everyone if the arguments just went away. This is where all the sheeple point me to the ten commandments and the fact that the mods never believed in free expression or the tolerance of diverse opinions in the first place. And people call this a "mature" community lawl. Let me make a couple inferences. 1.) You disagree with TH's political opinions 2.) You've been banned for shitting up politics threads in the past. I'm almost 100% sure I'm right on both of those, in fact, searching the ban list has shown that you have a couple bans under your belt, and I bet a couple warnings too. Now, what you are doing here is making a completely baseless and downright offensive accusation. While I will admit that moderators are people, and they make mistakes, I can assure you, without the slightest shadow of doubt, that they take their responsibilities seriously. Why do you think they work as a team, and sometimes bans are revised (down or up)? Perhaps because they take these decisions seriously? Because they consult with each other when banning people? Now, I don't personally give a damn what you think about th, hotbid or any of these people, opinions, are, after all, free. But I am offended that you have the audacity to slander someone who has done a hell of a lot more for team liquid than you have. Its very simple, if you feel so persecuted here, where you have been tolerated despite having toed the line several times, and having not done anything at all for the community, you are free to get out. This is, as they indicate, their house. That doesn't mean they don't strive to be as fair as possible. You'll notice that people who hold minority opinions are not automatically banned, e.g. the guy who insists on making astrology threads, or people who argue in favor hyper conservative theories, as long as they do so in respectable and inteligent ways. Tell me, mr. oh so prosecuted. Why the hell haven't you been permed yet then? You've been here for almost two years, and have about 4 bans, how come none of them are a perm, with the "excuse" "shitty history", which you more than clearly have, especially since you've expressed your less than admirable opinion on the team liquid administration before. Its simple, its because mods are more professional, more concerned with fairness, than you give them credit for. Arguing with you, is, I'm sure, a waste of time, you have already decided that TL is biased, and because you find TH opinions distasteful you have chosen to slander him. That is fine, think what you will. I will not let your baseless accusations stand uncontested however. If this place is so evilly moderated and you have a sword hanging above your head, as you claim, then I suggest you leave, why stay somewhere you hate? I know, without a shadow of doubt, that these moderators strive for fairness. As humans they fall short, and have human bias, but to accuse them of choosing to disregard duty for personal gain, and to say that we would not notice, not only insults them in their professional attitude, but insults us, the users, by implying that we cannot see beyond a shallow facade. That is all. May the stars watch over you. | ||
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
On January 24 2012 20:54 writer22816 wrote: Hahahaha his threads were entertaining, to say the least. Too bad he only made 2 controversial threads, I really wanted to see where he would have taken us next. His Controversial #2 was really poorly cnostructed. But I was also hoping for more installments, as long as they are argued properly. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Of course civil people should be able to discuss about anything but, I don't know, maybe the modern man is somehow unable to question their own views. Just a little doubt of his own godhood and infallacy. But no, enter a opinion - any opinion - and it's seen as a personal attack and everything turns into shit. Even faster if that opinion is based on solid, although maybe different, logic. Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. And it always seems it's the small minds that drag everyone else to their level. To the e-peen contest. The more there are people the more uniform everything must be. And then people start getting banned for different ideas, not because the mods necessarily want to ban people but to prevent shit storms. So many small minds with way too much ego to handle otherwise. I don't know why Hider was banned, maybe he didn't know what he was talking about, maybe he did. Maybe he presented his point in a bad manner. But I'd have rather asked him to explain his stance a bit more instead of attacking him like that. Honestly I would've rather read an opposing post by one guy with one economics course on his belt than 200 complying posts by people who have most likely even less schooling on the subject. But maybe that's just me. Maybe the majority likes their topics to be dogmatic and uniform. Circlejerking at its best:"who cares if it's the right idea, when it's the only one allowed" Anyway, bans aren't serious business. Bleh,dunno why I wrote that, I'm just so tired. My shitty posting is getting even more shittier than the usual and all it's getting harder to not stir up shit. Anyways if Falling or GMarshal (the new banlings) want a jumpstart on their banning career, hit me with 30 or 90 days. I had one last year around this time and it felt dandy. kk. ^^ User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
Clearly the ban was too harsh. But if you haven't learned this yet, tree hugger has a propensity to ban people who express opinions he doesn't agree with, particularly those of a "limited government" variety. The moment Hider made a link to Mises, he had a death sentence over his account. Of course, TH has the sense to wait for the poster to make some small error, to mispeak or say something unpopular or something that can be taken out of context, before banning them. Usually no one has the balls to point these types of things out, but when they do, the go-to argument in these types of cases is to always assume that the posters history is shit and justifies anything a mod ever does, without actually looking up their history and judging for yourself. It's the classic "god works in mysterious ways" type of justification. The reality is that certain people get tired of hearing certain arguments in certain threads, and feel it would be better for everyone if the arguments just went away. This is where all the sheeple point me to the ten commandments and the fact that the mods never believed in free expression or the tolerance of diverse opinions in the first place. And people call this a "mature" community lawl. So basically, the mods are mean, and you are no happy about it. It no fair (or something). Well, this is the internet... learn to take those pixels on the chin. They're just pixels! | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On January 25 2012 03:34 HwangjaeTerran wrote: You are bound to have arguments wherever there are people, sooner or later. Of course civil people should be able to discuss about anything but, I don't know, maybe the modern man is somehow unable to question their own views. Just a little doubt of his own godhood and infallacy. But no, enter a opinion - any opinion - and it's seen as a personal attack and everything turns into shit. Even faster if that opinion is based on solid, although maybe different, logic. I've found a solution to that problem by stopping myself and having a solo conversation any time I consider hitting the reply button. In general if you only reply when you feel that you can be either helpful or motivational, you'll avoid a lot of conflict. You'll also rack up fewer than a thousand posts in the two and a half years you've been reading the more ambitious content of others, but sacrifices must be made. | ||
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Tortious_Tortoise
United States944 Posts
On January 25 2012 03:59 urashimakt wrote: I've found a solution to that problem by stopping myself and having a solo conversation any time I consider hitting the reply button. In general if you only reply when you feel that you can be either helpful or motivational, you'll avoid a lot of conflict. You'll also rack up fewer than a thousand posts in the two and a half years you've been reading the more ambitious content of others, but sacrifices must be made. I beg to differ. Having a conversation with yourself will only eventually drive you to argument again and again. For example: [15:43] <TorteDeLini> So how about them Knicks? [15:44] <TorteDeLini> I don't really watch B-Ball [15:44] <TorteDeLini> What do you watch then? [15:44] <TorteDeLini> Starcraft 2 games. [15:44] <TorteDeLini> Wow, what a nerd... [15:45] <TorteDeLini> Nah, SC2 are kind of like sporting events, several members with high-levels of testosterone yell about grown men duking it out on an arena-like stadium from various locations of the world as we, the members, spectate via large electronic squares. [15:45] * salle[] wonders if TorteDeLini is starting to lose his grip of sanity from not being able to post on his favorite forum [15:45] <TorteDeLini> You have a point, but I don't think it should be consider a sport. [15:46] <+disciple> oh TorteDeLini [15:46] <TorteDeLini> I think what you're thinking of is physical sports. To which SC2 is not, but starcraft 2 is a competitive sport testing the mental capabilities and understanding of the game both players are competing on. It combines many aspects of sports and intergrates them into an interesting game and gameplay. [15:46] <+disciple> why you got banned man [15:46] <+disciple> Im your fan [15:46] <TorteDeLini> Strategy, communication, mental strength and healthy competition is what makes many games, despite not physical, very competitive and very interesting to watch. [15:46] <TorteDeLini> I lost a bet ): | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On January 25 2012 04:15 mbr2321 wrote: I beg to differ. Having a conversation with yourself will only eventually drive you to argument again and again. For example: There's a Pinkie Pie reference here somewhere. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On January 25 2012 04:15 mbr2321 wrote: I beg to differ. Having a conversation with yourself will only eventually drive you to argument again and again. For example: Wow, what a dig in the past jesus lol! disciple a fan, man that is an old quote ahahahahhaah | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On January 25 2012 04:20 NEOtheONE wrote: So what's the most random post that has received a ban? (temp or perma). Obviously, this would exclude PBUs. Try and find Optical's ban to get on page 1000. That was pretty random | ||
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Tortious_Tortoise
United States944 Posts
On January 25 2012 04:48 Torte de Lini wrote: Wow, what a dig in the past jesus lol! disciple a fan, man that is an old quote ahahahahhaah Looked for 9001 years and couldn't find your ban post. Why did you get banned recently? | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Ask staff. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On January 25 2012 04:48 Torte de Lini wrote: Wow, what a dig in the past jesus lol! disciple a fan, man that is an old quote ahahahahhaah Not posting almost killed a man.... Here's an interesting thought Torte; if you took all of your posts at the time of this reply, printed them out keeping the same dimentions, and stacked them up sideways end to end, the result would be over 8 times the height of the Empire State building. At your current rate of average daily posting, in 3 years your posts will be almost 2 and a half times the length of central park, in 5 years they will reach into the stratosphere, and in 10 years they would reach from Coney Island to Jersey City.  + Show Spoiler + based on an estimate of a seven inch width of posts. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
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