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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 27 2011 22:05 GMT
#10941
Thanks disciple for not temp'ing me in there.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#10942
On September 28 2011 06:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 06:51 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 28 2011 06:24 dementrio wrote:
In Italy (where cloud is from) gypsies tend to concentrate on sorts of bidonvilles in the outskirts of big cities, where they have no services and esp. no water. There have been several instances of vigilante squads lighting fires in those camps causing hell. Gypsy hatred is widespread and many people applaud this sort of behaviour.

Pretty much. Honestly, this Gypsy thread stinks. I really like TL but sometimes you read things here that make you doubt about humanity.


I made my retreat from the General board some time ago. I couldn't handle it any more ._. there's a lot of good posters, but there are a lot of bad posts as well. My compassion goes out to the poor mod who has the wrangle the horses in that thread.


Honestly, the best way to handle General topics is to simply argue for the sake of arguing.
I bantered and argued in the circumcision topic purely for the discussion regardless what were my actual point of views.

Easy way to make enemies though if they misinterpret, but great way to draw out fun in replying and chatting!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 27 2011 22:21 GMT
#10943
On September 28 2011 06:51 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 06:24 dementrio wrote:
In Italy (where cloud is from) gypsies tend to concentrate on sorts of bidonvilles in the outskirts of big cities, where they have no services and esp. no water. There have been several instances of vigilante squads lighting fires in those camps causing hell. Gypsy hatred is widespread and many people applaud this sort of behaviour.

Pretty much. Honestly, this Gypsy thread stinks. I really like TL but sometimes you read things here that make you doubt about humanity.


I might keep my head down in that thread if I were you, your last response in that thread is governed by logic. That is like the sworn enemy of all that is going on in that shithole.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 27 2011 23:32 GMT
#10944
lol I demanded answers and moderate solutions and was told 1) I'm a big dumb American and I don't know anything (Gee what a surprise) and 2) how bad all gypsies are. Thank you and goodnight.

Also I'd welcome any of those people to come live at my old apartment across the street from a housing project if they think their life is so different.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
September 28 2011 03:22 GMT
#10945
So I found this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212750

Nyovne's note:
Permed user doesn't get to stream.

And Storq's note:
Don't trust this guy.
He's done a runner...

Unfortunately nobody goes into clear explanation of why he got banned or how. I was wondering if anyone could clarify?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
September 28 2011 03:35 GMT
#10946
On September 28 2011 12:25 Lumi wrote:
why the f*** is esea sticking their nose in these peoples lives so far that they watch that and then decided to s*** on their lives because they can? what the hell is the relation? that's like if blizzard banned some players for doing this at night during a blizzcon event. people travel and go to things a nd they have a good time at night in the hotels between the days. and this happened AFTER the finals? it's such completely standard fare. what is it to esea whether they are underaged or not; they aren't the GD POLICE. some moral crusader within the esea needs to lose their job. what a joke. as idra said earlier on inside the game - tournaments work best when admins let players play t he game and don't get in the way with their own ideas. this is a huge example of people going out of their way to ruin their own business / events.

I don't follow the cs scene closely at all so this is my first impression of the ESEA as an organization and I have to say; thumbs down, fart noise and a look of disgust over such stupidity.



Too painful to read, but can't find an adequate reason to report the post. It just hurts when I see this kind of posting... honest. I want to turn off General, but then I would forget about the funny pictures thread.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
September 28 2011 04:10 GMT
#10947
I have a massive headache from the Gypsy/Romani thread. Fellow Americans, we know exactly jack shit about what is going on, shall we stop poking in that thread already? Undeniably some of the comments are very very bad (kill them all, wtf?) But there is a co-relation between crime rates and not being educated, which the Gypsies advocate by choice.
I post only when my brain works.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 28 2011 04:14 GMT
#10948
On September 28 2011 12:22 Seeker wrote:
So I found this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212750

Nyovne's note:
Permed user doesn't get to stream.

And Storq's note:
Don't trust this guy.
He's done a runner...

Unfortunately nobody goes into clear explanation of why he got banned or how. I was wondering if anyone could clarify?

If you read the thread closer it seems that he took some money to provide korean accounts for people and then just dashed T_T
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
September 28 2011 04:22 GMT
#10949
On September 28 2011 13:10 Reaper9 wrote:
I have a massive headache from the Gypsy/Romani thread. Fellow Americans, we know exactly jack shit about what is going on, shall we stop poking in that thread already? Undeniably some of the comments are very very bad (kill them all, wtf?) But there is a co-relation between crime rates and not being educated, which the Gypsies advocate by choice.

Yeah, some of the comments from both sides, just make me go... "wtf?"

Like this one:
On September 28 2011 12:58 RudrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 12:57 decemberTV wrote:
On September 28 2011 12:50 HereticSaint wrote:
On September 28 2011 12:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
The saddest thing about this thread (after a couple of Cloud's comments) is that Americans with no idea about what goes on in that part of the world are attempting to compare minorities in the US to gypsies and saying there's nothing different and there is no problem except those people in Bulgaria, Romania, etc. are a bunch of racists. The reality is they (gypsies and US minorities) are completely incomparable. A few gangsta thugs from a people well-integrated into American society, who know only American culture, who generally do something for society, don't arrogantly and defiantly separate themselves, and don't make welfare, robbery, and begging how the overwhelming majority of them make a living, is completely opposite from what people in this thread have described. In fact, the complete irrationality of such comparisons topped by arrogant determination that they are completely correct shames me a bit that I proudly display my country next to my username.

Poor blacks in US cities != gypsies. Completely incomparable in nearly all manners, except for a few thugs that are entirely negligible compared to the entire population of blacks, and even then, I'm not so sure.

Unless there is some huge conspiracy that everyone in Europe who has dealt or lived with gypsies are terrible racists, I think the people from the Balkans in this thread are speaking more reasonably than not.

On top of that, I'm quite certain that Romanians, Bulgarians, and other southern European people know what goes on in their country better than we Americans do, not NA Internet heroes who probably have never heard of these countries outside of some random class lecture.


Come live in South Central LA, then go live near gypsies. I'd love to hear your first hand accounts of why they aren't comparable at all.

But clearly, when Mr December talked down to me strictly because I was an American or when cloud suggested executing them with terrorist methods they weren't being racist or extremist. Jesus.

Edit: I thought December wasn't going to post anymore since it's early in the morning, guess he changed his mind...

Apparently, he doesn't like Canada very much either. Apparently if we live anywhere but where he does we are just huge morons.


Strictly because you're an american who compares "the bad part of town" with an ethnic group who has made it its culture to live off welfare, teach and force its own children to steal / beg from as little as 4~5 y old because until 13~14 years they cannot be prosecuted, across an entire continent. But yea, you know better.


What does being an American have to do with anything?

Seriously...

Secondly... Why not give them a job so they wont be forced to steal?

OH WAIT... I forgot you would rather kill them all. AM I RIGHT?

As far as I've read, DecemberTV hasn't advocated any kind of genocide, so that little addendum to the end is just a reaction to Cloud's post on the first page, from what I can tell. Obviously all Eastern Europeans who believe the Gypsies or Romanis (or whatever they wish to be called) are a problem that needs to be addressed, also believe that they should be murdered en masse. AM I RIGHT?

Too bad TL doesn't ban for stupid. =/
you gotta dance
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
September 28 2011 04:35 GMT
#10950
On September 28 2011 05:01 Kibibit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 04:46 Shiragaku wrote:
Wait...the Cloud that was banned in the first page of the Gypsy Riot, is it our Cloud? The Cloud? The Cloud with a Liquidpedia article?

Yep, and he more than deserved it, to be honest. Anyone else would've probably been a 2 week at minimum, because that was some pretty vile shit he was spewing for it. I'm almost disgusted that a call for genocide gets ANYONE just a 2 day ban, but so it goes.



Agree with ya, should prob be longer.

I was wondering if his posts in that thread would be in the 'Recent Pro Posts' thread :p

The whole thread should prob be shut down asap, its a huge mess of prejudice and nobody is going to gain anything from it, but oh well.

Bleh.
Bubelzeeb
Profile Joined September 2011
8 Posts
September 28 2011 04:36 GMT
#10951
^^

Sometimes people need to realise that what they say, think and do is a reflection of who they are.

Some of the comments in that thread are just plain disgusting but are borne out of frustration. The people condemning them without a moment's notice don't themselves justice.

As Biff said "Corelation!=causation" but clearly there is a problem. I'm just disappointed in the responses that thread has received. TL should be better than that. I've said it before and I will say it again, it is really hard to have a conversation with someone when they're shouting in your face.

Probulous is awesome...
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 04:52:59
September 28 2011 04:51 GMT
#10952
On September 28 2011 13:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 13:10 Reaper9 wrote:
I have a massive headache from the Gypsy/Romani thread. Fellow Americans, we know exactly jack shit about what is going on, shall we stop poking in that thread already? Undeniably some of the comments are very very bad (kill them all, wtf?) But there is a co-relation between crime rates and not being educated, which the Gypsies advocate by choice.

Yeah, some of the comments from both sides, just make me go... "wtf?"

Like this one:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 12:58 RudrA wrote:
On September 28 2011 12:57 decemberTV wrote:
On September 28 2011 12:50 HereticSaint wrote:
On September 28 2011 12:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
The saddest thing about this thread (after a couple of Cloud's comments) is that Americans with no idea about what goes on in that part of the world are attempting to compare minorities in the US to gypsies and saying there's nothing different and there is no problem except those people in Bulgaria, Romania, etc. are a bunch of racists. The reality is they (gypsies and US minorities) are completely incomparable. A few gangsta thugs from a people well-integrated into American society, who know only American culture, who generally do something for society, don't arrogantly and defiantly separate themselves, and don't make welfare, robbery, and begging how the overwhelming majority of them make a living, is completely opposite from what people in this thread have described. In fact, the complete irrationality of such comparisons topped by arrogant determination that they are completely correct shames me a bit that I proudly display my country next to my username.

Poor blacks in US cities != gypsies. Completely incomparable in nearly all manners, except for a few thugs that are entirely negligible compared to the entire population of blacks, and even then, I'm not so sure.

Unless there is some huge conspiracy that everyone in Europe who has dealt or lived with gypsies are terrible racists, I think the people from the Balkans in this thread are speaking more reasonably than not.

On top of that, I'm quite certain that Romanians, Bulgarians, and other southern European people know what goes on in their country better than we Americans do, not NA Internet heroes who probably have never heard of these countries outside of some random class lecture.


Come live in South Central LA, then go live near gypsies. I'd love to hear your first hand accounts of why they aren't comparable at all.

But clearly, when Mr December talked down to me strictly because I was an American or when cloud suggested executing them with terrorist methods they weren't being racist or extremist. Jesus.

Edit: I thought December wasn't going to post anymore since it's early in the morning, guess he changed his mind...

Apparently, he doesn't like Canada very much either. Apparently if we live anywhere but where he does we are just huge morons.


Strictly because you're an american who compares "the bad part of town" with an ethnic group who has made it its culture to live off welfare, teach and force its own children to steal / beg from as little as 4~5 y old because until 13~14 years they cannot be prosecuted, across an entire continent. But yea, you know better.


What does being an American have to do with anything?

Seriously...

Secondly... Why not give them a job so they wont be forced to steal?

OH WAIT... I forgot you would rather kill them all. AM I RIGHT?

As far as I've read, DecemberTV hasn't advocated any kind of genocide, so that little addendum to the end is just a reaction to Cloud's post on the first page, from what I can tell. Obviously all Eastern Europeans who believe the Gypsies or Romanis (or whatever they wish to be called) are a problem that needs to be addressed, also believe that they should be murdered en masse. AM I RIGHT?

Too bad TL doesn't ban for stupid. =/

Well, Rudra just admitted he's racist against Europeans, so judging by the note in white at the top of that thread, he may receive a break if mods see fit. Still, I don't think it was a good idea of him to insult much of this forum's population, and most of the team members of TL.

As an optimist, I think his utterly irrational, baseless posting in that thread is just trolling, rather than him just being plain stupid *shrugs*.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 28 2011 05:45 GMT
#10953
I feel stupid when reading that thread lol... I feel like I don't even live in Europe lol, I had no idea Gypsy's were a problem, basically I barely even know what a gypsy is. So in that regard I suppose that thread has enlightened me, and also made me somewhat happy that I don't have the same problem in Norway.

I feel really bad for the people who's countries get stereotyped and feared because of it though.

I can imagine all the anti-american bullshit some people are spewing in there too whenever a non-european tries to be part of the discussion >_< headache-inducing indeed.

I just stay faar far away from the general section.
memes are a dish best served dank
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 28 2011 07:06 GMT
#10954
On September 28 2011 13:14 nttea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 12:22 Seeker wrote:
So I found this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212750

Nyovne's note:
Permed user doesn't get to stream.

And Storq's note:
Don't trust this guy.
He's done a runner...

Unfortunately nobody goes into clear explanation of why he got banned or how. I was wondering if anyone could clarify?

If you read the thread closer it seems that he took some money to provide korean accounts for people and then just dashed T_T

I don't know anyone that happened to but he did sell Korean accounts through TL, which is against site policy. After a list of warnings and half measures, always resulting in EZ going right back to selling accounts, he was banned. As a hilarious punctuation- in his google document apology letter to TL after he was banned he had a section with contact info for anyone that wants to buy an account.

It was as hilarious as it was sad.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 28 2011 07:20 GMT
#10955
I reported EZ when he tried to sell me copies via p.m. I think that's when he got banned.
I also reported that stream.

Oddly enough, I think I still have his apology letter in my google docs. It's pretty long and lengthy with annoying colors D:<
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
September 28 2011 07:20 GMT
#10956
I, and I am sure I'm not alone, had no idea that gypsies and the gypsy problem were apparently missing in America, and would gladly provide a perspective on it since for once I do know something about stuff that people are interested in.
This also happens in the strategy forums where once in a while somebody whishes to discuss some particular tactic or strategy that by chance I practiced for 200 games straight.
However I am discouraged by how every thread of some interest explodes to 20 pages overnight, where every semblance of an intelligent contribution is drowned in imbecility. This is not only a problem of the general forum. There's no incentive to pay attention to what others say and even less incentive to put effort in your posts.
The mods work full time but are unable to contain this. I feel like TL really needs some sort of reputation system where shitty posters are sent into oblivion forever instead of getting a short tempban when they manage to excrete something so stupid that stands out from the rest.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 07:28:07
September 28 2011 07:26 GMT
#10957
People read what you post, no matter how much volume. Trust me. Yeah there are a lot of useless posts and there's even more posts that fall under content don't help, but everyone is read by someone.

Edit: TL does have a reputation system. It's users. I know, it's a little archaic, but I remember people who make good posts and I remember people who make bad ones. Mods are the same way.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 28 2011 07:32 GMT
#10958
Gotta earn that TL street cred yo!
Cackle™
Bubelzeeb
Profile Joined September 2011
8 Posts
September 28 2011 07:40 GMT
#10959
On September 28 2011 16:32 TheKefka wrote:
Gotta earn that TL street cred yo!


This surprisingly true. You can tell a good poster from a mile away. In fact you don't even have to read their posts in depth to know a decent poster from regular trash. For a start, there isn't a wall of text. There is limited if any rough aggressive language, grammar is decent as is the spelling.

If people take the time to write out their posts properly, there is more chance they took the time to actually think about what they were writing.

Most people who post in this thread are pretty good posters. Perhaps all new posters should only be allowed to read the ABL for the first week
Probulous is awesome...
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 28 2011 07:53 GMT
#10960
On September 28 2011 16:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
I reported EZ when he tried to sell me copies via p.m. I think that's when he got banned.
I also reported that stream.

Oddly enough, I think I still have his apology letter in my google docs. It's pretty long and lengthy with annoying colors D:<


Who the fuck are you? Fucking double digit poster. Read the fucking commandments.

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