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On April 05 2011 05:50 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 05:48 Puosu wrote:
This is the ban thread? Sickest derailment. Didn't even notice, I am terrible.
Really I doubt there'll ever be a concensus on what exactly cheese means but if you guys want to keep discussing it I suggest you move it to private means or the SC2 general discussion thread. I motion that cheese is whatever the guy with the ban button says it is. Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 05:48 ModerateTemperature wrote:
Please tell me what percentage of army cutting the line between risk and cheese exists at. Cutting say, 3 Marines early to get an early expansion is risky. Getting a supply depot and then 2 Command Centers is cheese.
You didn't answer my question. The reason cheese is cheese is because it puts pressure on your opponent threatening to kill them. Is building 15 Mutalisks midgame and hoping Protoss doesn't scout them until you have 15 cheese? Your definition is so case-by-case arbitrary.
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On April 05 2011 05:41 ModerateTemperature wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 05:37 Puosu wrote:
Liquipedia:
Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies on large parts on secrecy and/or psychological impact on the opponent.
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A main characteristic of cheese is whatever the form, if scouted in time and answered correctly, it will almost surely fail and put the executed player at a severe disadvantage.
It just depends on how you define the word, I've personally always considered 14cc/14nex etc. "economical cheeses" but can definitely see why people might not like the use of the word cheese here. Is not scouting cheese? Is going 2 base Colossus without scouting cheese? This is a slippery slope that is heading towards any risk suddenly becoming cheese.
The only slippery slope is your slippery slope argument. :/ And mine.
There is economic cheese and the point is really to emphasize that cheese, whether a 6pool or 14CC, is okay and people shouldn't get so upset about it. If it becomes a liability because you always lose if it gets to midgame or Jaedong figures out you're always going to 14CC, then it's your problem. But most people need to stop complaining about it.
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On April 05 2011 05:57 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 05:41 ModerateTemperature wrote:On April 05 2011 05:37 Puosu wrote:
Liquipedia:
Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies on large parts on secrecy and/or psychological impact on the opponent.
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A main characteristic of cheese is whatever the form, if scouted in time and answered correctly, it will almost surely fail and put the executed player at a severe disadvantage.
It just depends on how you define the word, I've personally always considered 14cc/14nex etc. "economical cheeses" but can definitely see why people might not like the use of the word cheese here. Is not scouting cheese? Is going 2 base Colossus without scouting cheese? This is a slippery slope that is heading towards any risk suddenly becoming cheese. The only slippery slope is your slippery slope argument. :/ And mine. There is economic cheese and the point is really to emphasize that cheese, whether a 6pool or 14CC, is okay and people shouldn't get so upset about it. If it becomes a liability because you always lose if it gets to midgame or Jaedong figures out you're always going to 14CC, then it's your problem. But most people need to stop complaining about it.
I don't see how you can refute years of experience and the liquipedia article by saying "It exists." I also don't understand your first paragraph.
Anyways I just saw Boes' post so I'll step out.
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Drunkasarous was just temp banned for 2 days by Chill. That account was created on 2011-02-16 02:35:40 and had 64 posts. Reason: Show nested quote +I dont understand why people think iNcontroL is all that good. Hes an alright player, but I honestly think he doesnt contribute much on SotG. Hell, he charges 100$ an hour and cant even get a webcam (warn / ban me if you wish, but im willing to bet a lot of his money goes into his fruity little "Miss Oregon") Show nested quote +I am not a fan of iNcontroL, and I state it publicly (being as respectful as I can as I love TL and I dont want to be banned), but I hope NASL does well in general. Okay... Where to start? Knowing nothing about Incontrol, you make a wild assumption that he spends all his money on his girlfriend, belittling their relationship by calling her "fruity little Miss Oregon". Okay, so that's pretty offensive and stupid, but then you decide to insult the moderators by implying that they don't know how to warn/ban users and need your approval to do it. Then you wrap this up with another "I don't want to be banned." Honestly, if you just wrote your comment and stopped worrying about being banned, you would be fine. And here's a shocking thought: If a comment has your worried about being banned, why would you post it? You know it's a shitty comment by your own admission (twice) in the same comment. You can't write "Look, I know this is a shitty comment" and then get some magical self-admitting free pass to shit all over the page.
I still don't get why people try the personal attacks on people they don't know. And "I love TL but I'm going to make a shit post about a moderator and his girlfriend".....where's the logic?
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On April 05 2011 05:57 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 05:41 ModerateTemperature wrote:On April 05 2011 05:37 Puosu wrote:
Liquipedia:
Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies on large parts on secrecy and/or psychological impact on the opponent.
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A main characteristic of cheese is whatever the form, if scouted in time and answered correctly, it will almost surely fail and put the executed player at a severe disadvantage.
It just depends on how you define the word, I've personally always considered 14cc/14nex etc. "economical cheeses" but can definitely see why people might not like the use of the word cheese here. Is not scouting cheese? Is going 2 base Colossus without scouting cheese? This is a slippery slope that is heading towards any risk suddenly becoming cheese. The only slippery slope is your slippery slope argument. :/ And mine. There is economic cheese and the point is really to emphasize that cheese, whether a 6pool or 14CC, is okay and people shouldn't get so upset about it. If it becomes a liability because you always lose if it gets to midgame or Jaedong figures out you're always going to 14CC, then it's your problem. But most people need to stop complaining about it.
I can't report you :<
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On April 04 2011 13:43 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 12:46 Aurdon wrote:On April 04 2011 06:01 ScarletKnight wrote:
the MLG thread is getting out of hand. People really need to chill. Getting insulted and people are posting so aggressively.
Only a few more months till that report button. Seeing your post made me check to see how long I had until the report button. About one more day to go. So this got me thinking about the fact of how many people are about to get access to that little report button because of the giant flood of us that came for SC2. I wonder if the report button feature will get out of control with so many people about to get access to it. It is a controllable privilege that the mods can enable/disable at will; i imagine it will always be around as it serves a valuable purpose but whether it remains a default 1 year membership requirement could always change; you can also get the report feature before this requirement if the mods deem you worthy 
This. You also don't need the report button to report, I did fine without it before (though now it's a lot easier too)
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On April 05 2011 05:59 ModerateTemperature wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 05:57 Jibba wrote:On April 05 2011 05:41 ModerateTemperature wrote:On April 05 2011 05:37 Puosu wrote:
Liquipedia:
Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies on large parts on secrecy and/or psychological impact on the opponent.
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A main characteristic of cheese is whatever the form, if scouted in time and answered correctly, it will almost surely fail and put the executed player at a severe disadvantage.
It just depends on how you define the word, I've personally always considered 14cc/14nex etc. "economical cheeses" but can definitely see why people might not like the use of the word cheese here. Is not scouting cheese? Is going 2 base Colossus without scouting cheese? This is a slippery slope that is heading towards any risk suddenly becoming cheese. The only slippery slope is your slippery slope argument. :/ And mine. There is economic cheese and the point is really to emphasize that cheese, whether a 6pool or 14CC, is okay and people shouldn't get so upset about it. If it becomes a liability because you always lose if it gets to midgame or Jaedong figures out you're always going to 14CC, then it's your problem. But most people need to stop complaining about it. I don't see how you can refute years of experience and the liquipedia article by saying "It exists." I also don't understand your first paragraph. Anyways I just saw Boes' post so I'll step out.
The Liquipedia article supports exactly what I said.
EDIT: Yes, boes. 
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On April 05 2011 06:04 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 13:43 bkrow wrote:On April 04 2011 12:46 Aurdon wrote:On April 04 2011 06:01 ScarletKnight wrote:
the MLG thread is getting out of hand. People really need to chill. Getting insulted and people are posting so aggressively.
Only a few more months till that report button. Seeing your post made me check to see how long I had until the report button. About one more day to go. So this got me thinking about the fact of how many people are about to get access to that little report button because of the giant flood of us that came for SC2. I wonder if the report button feature will get out of control with so many people about to get access to it. It is a controllable privilege that the mods can enable/disable at will; i imagine it will always be around as it serves a valuable purpose but whether it remains a default 1 year membership requirement could always change; you can also get the report feature before this requirement if the mods deem you worthy This. You also don't need the report button to report, I did fine without it before (though now it's a lot easier too)
I'm not sure if you're talking to me and using that post as reasoning or not, but I have the report button. I was more commenting on the fact that you can't report staff.
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On April 05 2011 06:08 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 06:04 Torte de Lini wrote:On April 04 2011 13:43 bkrow wrote:On April 04 2011 12:46 Aurdon wrote:On April 04 2011 06:01 ScarletKnight wrote:
the MLG thread is getting out of hand. People really need to chill. Getting insulted and people are posting so aggressively.
Only a few more months till that report button. Seeing your post made me check to see how long I had until the report button. About one more day to go. So this got me thinking about the fact of how many people are about to get access to that little report button because of the giant flood of us that came for SC2. I wonder if the report button feature will get out of control with so many people about to get access to it. It is a controllable privilege that the mods can enable/disable at will; i imagine it will always be around as it serves a valuable purpose but whether it remains a default 1 year membership requirement could always change; you can also get the report feature before this requirement if the mods deem you worthy This. You also don't need the report button to report, I did fine without it before (though now it's a lot easier too) I'm not sure if you're talking to me and using that post as reasoning or not, but I have the report button. I was more commenting on the fact that you can't report staff.
It wasn't directed at you.
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On April 05 2011 06:10 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 06:08 tofucake wrote:On April 05 2011 06:04 Torte de Lini wrote:On April 04 2011 13:43 bkrow wrote:On April 04 2011 12:46 Aurdon wrote:On April 04 2011 06:01 ScarletKnight wrote:
the MLG thread is getting out of hand. People really need to chill. Getting insulted and people are posting so aggressively.
Only a few more months till that report button. Seeing your post made me check to see how long I had until the report button. About one more day to go. So this got me thinking about the fact of how many people are about to get access to that little report button because of the giant flood of us that came for SC2. I wonder if the report button feature will get out of control with so many people about to get access to it. It is a controllable privilege that the mods can enable/disable at will; i imagine it will always be around as it serves a valuable purpose but whether it remains a default 1 year membership requirement could always change; you can also get the report feature before this requirement if the mods deem you worthy This. You also don't need the report button to report, I did fine without it before (though now it's a lot easier too) I'm not sure if you're talking to me and using that post as reasoning or not, but I have the report button. I was more commenting on the fact that you can't report staff. It wasn't directed at you.
This (x2! I get to use it twice in a row!).
I was responding to the person I was quoting (now I'm responding to tofucake).
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On April 05 2011 06:12 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 06:10 Aeres wrote:On April 05 2011 06:08 tofucake wrote:On April 05 2011 06:04 Torte de Lini wrote:On April 04 2011 13:43 bkrow wrote:On April 04 2011 12:46 Aurdon wrote:On April 04 2011 06:01 ScarletKnight wrote:
the MLG thread is getting out of hand. People really need to chill. Getting insulted and people are posting so aggressively.
Only a few more months till that report button. Seeing your post made me check to see how long I had until the report button. About one more day to go. So this got me thinking about the fact of how many people are about to get access to that little report button because of the giant flood of us that came for SC2. I wonder if the report button feature will get out of control with so many people about to get access to it. It is a controllable privilege that the mods can enable/disable at will; i imagine it will always be around as it serves a valuable purpose but whether it remains a default 1 year membership requirement could always change; you can also get the report feature before this requirement if the mods deem you worthy This. You also don't need the report button to report, I did fine without it before (though now it's a lot easier too) Maybe you should quote me then. You say you do one thing and do something. Mr. Ambiguous...wondering why people don't k I'm not sure if you're talking to me and using that post as reasoning or not, but I have the report button. I was more commenting on the fact that you can't report staff. It wasn't directed at you. This (x2! I get to use it twice in a row!). I was responding to the person I was quoting (now I'm responding to tofucake).
Maybe you should quote me then! Mr. Ambiguous.....wondering why people don't know who you're talking to.
Sheesh.
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On April 05 2011 05:51 svperstar wrote:
Just noticed they didn't invite a single Liquid player? Is that because there's some rivalry between TL and the new soon to be announced wellplayed.org site, which content is supposedly going to somewhat mirror TL?
User was temp banned for this post.
Kennigit edit: This might be the stupidest most uninformed post i've read in the last 6 months.
kekekeke
Kennigit is funny like that.
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TazzDingo was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Kennigit.
That account was created on 2010-10-08 07:50:39 and had 292 posts.
Reason: NATTY NATTY! (borat voice)
I couldn't find what this one was for but I found the reason funny. Search doesn't come up with a banned post.
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anyone want to bet on how many more posts until inferno97 is temped? (the guy spamming his new cs meme in the random pic thread)
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On April 05 2011 07:17 DCLXVI wrote:
anyone want to bet on how many more posts until inferno97 is temped? (the guy spamming his new cs meme in the random pic thread)
Why? It seems pretty harmless to me, and I actually chuckled at a few. The unfunny memes deserved to be purged, but this one's at least mildly humorous, and as long as it's confined to the picture thread, I see no reason for complaint.
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On April 05 2011 07:45 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 07:17 DCLXVI wrote:
anyone want to bet on how many more posts until inferno97 is temped? (the guy spamming his new cs meme in the random pic thread) Why? It seems pretty harmless to me, and I actually chuckled at a few. The unfunny memes deserved to be purged, but this one's at least mildly humorous, and as long as it's confined to the picture thread, I see no reason for complaint.
people who triple post to respond to others typically get warned/temped and get temped for sure in later posts.
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On April 05 2011 08:26 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 07:45 Aeres wrote:On April 05 2011 07:17 DCLXVI wrote:
anyone want to bet on how many more posts until inferno97 is temped? (the guy spamming his new cs meme in the random pic thread) Why? It seems pretty harmless to me, and I actually chuckled at a few. The unfunny memes deserved to be purged, but this one's at least mildly humorous, and as long as it's confined to the picture thread, I see no reason for complaint. people who triple post to respond to others typically get warned/temped and get temped for sure in later posts.
I didnt even notice lol. Well see how it work's out. i think the meme will be forgotten in a few pages
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ModerateTemperature March 30 2011 00:26. Posts 19 PM Profile Report Quote #
Sorry, I only have 14 posts before 20k so I had to register this new account to address some of the replies.
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You guys know it's chill right?
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yes, I caught the reference.
I didn't realize he had a reason to smurf until you pointed it out though. Thought it was a fan/wannabe.
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