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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here. Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue. Keep it civil. NOTE: For those of you who want to find the actual ABL thread where the bans are posted. Please look in here: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/ | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23675 Posts
On March 08 2018 12:44 Plansix wrote: I enjoyed how the daughter was "collateral damage". Classy. I love it when posters cheer on an assassination attempt. That's pretty standard fare around here (particularly the US in general). I'm really struggling to find what makes this comment seem so out of bounds to so many people? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 08 2018 12:48 GreenHorizons wrote: That's pretty standard fare around here (particularly the US in general). I'm really struggling to find what makes this comment seem so out of bounds to so many people? If he dithered for a sentence or two on the exact same conclusion, he'd be identical to around a quarter of posters in the US Pol thread. It's the succinct thought that damns him here. But I understand that moderation has to operate efficiently in the model of this website, so it has a large systemic component. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23675 Posts
On March 08 2018 12:54 Danglars wrote: LegalLord gets arguments (a skill that evades dozens in US Pol) and typically writes clearly. And yet, somewhere deep down, the motherland dictates some edgy text that's really sociopathic. I'd say he's a smart man with his demons. If he dithered for a sentence or two on the exact same conclusion, he'd be identical to around a quarter of posters in the US Pol thread. It's the succinct thought that damns him here. But I understand that moderation has to operate efficiently in the model of this website, so it has a large systemic component. I guess, I just don't get it. Seems more like hurt feelings than a particularly egregious comment. I've heard worse out of the Obama administration (and liberals in general) so it just doesn't strike me as beyond the norm. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but this simply isn't that bad of a comment relatively imo. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37063 Posts
On March 08 2018 13:05 GreenHorizons wrote: I guess, I just don't get it. Seems more like hurt feelings than a particularly egregious comment. I've heard worse out of the Obama administration (and liberals in general) so it just doesn't strike me as beyond the norm. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but this simply isn't that bad of a comment relatively imo. Keep in mind that not all moderators think the same way. What I deem as an inappropriate comment and a bannable offense may not be the same for others, and vice versa. Also keep in mind that certain users on this site have already burned many bridges and have a terrible mod note page or pages. In those instances, we won't be as lenient as we would be to other relatively "newer" offenders. Looking at LL's mod page, he does not have a good track record with us. Him, along with a handful of others, are always walking on eggshells on this site. In those cases, when we carry out a mod action on them, the duration is often longer because we have given them enough second chances. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23675 Posts
On March 08 2018 13:12 Seeker wrote: Keep in mind that not all moderators think the same way. What I deem as an inappropriate comment and a bannable offense may not be the same for others, and vice versa. Also keep in mind that certain users on this site have already burned many bridges and have a terrible mod note page or pages. In those instances, we won't be as lenient as we would be to other relatively "newer" offenders. Looking at LL's mod page, he does not have a good track record with us. Him, along with a handful of others, are always walking on eggshells on this site. In those cases, when we carry out a mod action on them, the sentences are harsher because we have given them enough second chances. Yeah that's kinda what I was getting at with hurt feelings. Certainly appears to be a situation where someone was personally offended because this particular comment struck too close to home and then lashed out and justified it (perhaps legitimately) with a bad posting history from LL. Which is fine, your house and all, just seemed people were acting all aghast as if he had crossed some clear line. While to me it appeared that the victims LL didn't show any particular affinity toward we're more valued (by someone with moderation power) than the people who are more regularly treated with comparable disregard and by someone with a notably disliked posting history. Then people pretending to be (or were just displaying a shocking lack of self-awareness?) offended. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8818 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On March 08 2018 14:53 evilfatsh1t wrote: how many mod notes fit on one page 20, just like a normal TL thread. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 08 2018 16:55 opisska wrote: So if a particular user has too many mod notes, do the mods buy TL+ to be able to see them all at once? I somehow doubt that any one user has 1000 mod notes. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On March 08 2018 17:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I somehow doubt that any one user has 1000 mod notes. Maybe if they merged all fluidrone's accounts?  The banning system just provides so many opportunities for cool features that a normal user never sees. I wonder how large is the percentage of TL's code dedicated to all things banning | ||
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fluidrone
France1478 Posts
On March 08 2018 18:43 opisska wrote: Maybe if they merged all fluidrone's accounts? The banning system just provides so many opportunities for cool features that a normal user never sees. I wonder how large is the percentage of TL's code dedicated to all things banning mmm i'm more like a 50 pages tops, no? talk to stimey or murphy charlie, they probably would qualify no? i completely lost the taste for spamming on forums ..  i spam in live chats  | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On March 08 2018 12:48 GreenHorizons wrote: That's pretty standard fare around here (particularly the US in general). I'm really struggling to find what makes this comment seem so out of bounds to so many people? The UK pol thread is not the US pol thread. Please don't try to lower the rest of the forum to its standard. Maybe you do, but culturally we don't normally consider expressing satisfaction to a savage murder as civilised. Thank you. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23675 Posts
On March 09 2018 00:42 Dangermousecatdog wrote: The UK pol thread is not the US pol thread. Please don't try to lower the rest of the forum to its standard. Maybe you do, but culturally we don't normally consider expressing satisfaction to a savage murder as civilised. Thank you. I'm not there frequently enough to know for sure, but I'd wager a guess that it's not such a stretch. Not sure he was celebrating so much as marking it as an unsurprising fate either. Either way, I'd rather see the standard comparably raised in the US thread rather than lowered in the UK thread. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
I must say I only now read LL's ban reason and I am terrified a bit. Sure, I hate that guy to some extent and I make fun about being happy he's gone for a while, but I'd be sad if he got permed. It's absurd to ban someone just for showing a political stance, in particular when it is a political stance shared by some hundred million people - and believe me, many things that LL show are just a window into the mind of a Russian person. Here with the added bonus that the person actually has more intellect than vodka in their skull. So yeah, there are reasons to keep him around. I somewhat see why he got banned for what he wrote, but even that was more emotional than logical. Didn't westerners rejoice when bin Laden was killed? Or any other "enemy of the western civilization". This poisoned guy was just the same thing to many Russians (the pro-regime ones that are apparently still a strong majority in the country). Pretending it's not true won't make this fact disappear. | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37063 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9283 Posts
LegalLord was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK. That account was created on 2013-04-06 03:39:42 and had 11170 posts. Reason: Honestly I just don't know why we keep you around here. You have literally no redeeming qualities. None. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
LL can be pro Russia, but the guy needs to pick his moments. | ||
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farvacola
United States18855 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On March 09 2018 05:34 Plansix wrote: It would be akin too going into the US pol threat the day of a terrorist attack and posting “justice for years of drone strikes.” Let's all agree to that next time there is an opportunity | ||
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