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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 19 2017 00:50 GMT
#57241
My guess is a posting tirade on a sister site.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
January 19 2017 01:04 GMT
#57242
On January 19 2017 09:50 LegalLord wrote:
My guess is a posting tirade on a sister site.


if its sonnington yeah he would post the weirdest pseudo intellectual trolling about kpop in the league off topic thread and never contribute anything else.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 19 2017 20:45 GMT
#57243
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 17 2017 08:18 YokoKano wrote:
no one really knows how language works man. it's recursive relation between you, the writer, the world, and other variables too. the vase might say exactly what it's supposed to say given the time, context, and recent change of ownership. expensive calligraphy jobs wont reveal their intended meaning until presented to a TL scholar of sufficient experience, age, and merit.

china has a very complex causal map compared to the western world, with a vast unexplored second level ante-dating the pyramids. great wars were fought in the dawn of marijuana smoking using magickal powers far beyond the diminutive power of modern man. only with the aid of the egyptian witch doctors could the space:time:mind ratio be shattered and unbound as the pre-hindu religions discovered meditation, creating a permanent lock to the time:mind ratio. finally the pyramids were constructed as edifices to flesh and blood, ceiling for a time the fate of earth in a space:time-mind ratio called the golden ratio.

the beginning work of the unbinding followed with the primitive space-time relationship of the desert wastes wherein mescaline provided a lightspeed isotope. mescaline began the work of disassembling the space-capsules called pyramids, gradually loosing the 12,000 year hold meditative technique had ingrained on the time-mind relation. it was entirely necessary to place the meditative hold on the time-mind relation to develop space-faring spatial vehicles... thus only recently...


To be honest, this is one of the funniest things I've ever read (probably top 20) because he starts off being sarcastic, but then his brain tells him, "Tell them the secret of the Chinese marijuana wars." and he was like "Huh? Who was that? What was I writing? Oh yeah. Chinese marijuana wars from pre-history." then goes off on a tangent about being able to teleport through meditation and how the Pyramids of Giza are actually space-ships powered by mind-altering drug-induced telepathy.

I'm figuratively dead from laughter.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
January 19 2017 20:50 GMT
#57244
Its no secret the two of you are in love.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
January 19 2017 21:02 GMT
#57245
That Gary was a cheeky metaphore i fkin knew it...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
January 20 2017 00:44 GMT
#57246
What happened in my head:

1) usual nonsensical post from yoko.
2) someone says it's the funniest things ever.
3) Huh? >_>
4) Oh, it's nina. Now it makes sense.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10267 Posts
January 20 2017 02:31 GMT
#57247
On January 19 2017 10:04 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 09:50 LegalLord wrote:
My guess is a posting tirade on a sister site.


if its sonnington yeah he would post the weirdest pseudo intellectual trolling about kpop in the league off topic thread and never contribute anything else.

Link pls?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
January 20 2017 03:15 GMT
#57248
On January 17 2017 14:26 Sonnington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 11:00 Eppa! wrote:
Yet again Sonivtone you completely miss the point. "You are so amazing, I am beautiful." Is the "I see dead people" line in 6th sense.


There's hope for LL yet. Very smart post.

The way that line comes together is sooo well done. They have Seolhyun standing there looking perfectly symmetrical. Then the beat drops and she pauses between each line: You are so handsome... ...I am beautiful...
...We don’t have to look to know that we must be a match made in heaven. The phonetic structure of the line in Korean and the way she sings it is a really powerful moment.

You see, boybands/girlgroups sell the fantasy of the members being in a romantic relationship with the listener. While also selling the fantasy of -being- the person that is so hot and sought after. It's the same thing Frank Sinatra and the Beatles did. So the premise of the song as a representation of the fantasy "A hot girl might ask me out" "Maybe I can ask out that hot guy" hit home for both sexes very powerfully in that line.

What I find interesting is that the lyric I quoted in the OP isn't found in the youtube closed captioning. I think it was intentionally left out. I think the song is marketed towards a more western audience and wanted to appeal to the myth of women asking men out being acceptable and desirable.



User was banned for this post.

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 20 2017 03:18 GMT
#57249
He's not wrong.

Seolhyun is fine.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10267 Posts
January 20 2017 03:34 GMT
#57250
Can someone explain to me what is ban-worthy about that? I don't get it.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-20 04:47:06
January 20 2017 04:43 GMT
#57251
On January 20 2017 12:34 Jealous wrote:
Can someone explain to me what is ban-worthy about that? I don't get it.



he randomly would come into the thread and post random stuff like that ignoring everything else and was told to stop. he didn't. never did anything else or talked. It's like you had a book club once a week and a guy just showed up doing nothing but this

[image loading]



oh and some political trolling too but don't feel like posting that.

some examples

http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/website-feedback/494741-about-this-warning


On July 06 2016 08:28 Sonnington wrote:
I love you guys too.

So what do you guys think about the song?

+ Show Spoiler +


It's really quite thoughtful and deep. The song deals with the issue that some girls have with dating in their youth. Their expectations for a man are far too high. We have lyrics like "I want you, but you don't" then later on "I don't know why I feel so suffocated." As though the ladies don't exactly know what they want and don't know how to feel or act properly. At one point the man-doll, or representation of the male in the relationship, goes to strike Yenny. Then, right after, you hear Yubin sing a line about wanting to control the man's mind, not being able to, and then nit-picking his characteristics. This shows the confusion young ladies have over serious and non-serious relationship issues and how one needs to act in a relationship.

The end we see the girls squirt ketchup and silly string the helpless man-doll. He's left with a stick of TNT on his lap, fuse burning. Besides the attempted strike, the man-doll hasn't done anything wrong. He's a representation of a perfect and innocent man, but the ladies aren't able to deal with their own feelings and thus make -him- look bad to make themselves look better.

Then they ask why they're so lonely, I won't why, right?

It's quite a deep an interesting concept. I'd expect nothing less from these beautiful women.

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 20 2017 09:09 GMT
#57252
I honestly see nothing wromg with those points. At least I have learnt here to stay away from interpreting teenager music as it is obviously more touchy subject on TL than, say, holocaust. Only maybe gender can rival it.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-20 10:15:13
January 20 2017 10:13 GMT
#57253
As a LL regular he always came off as rather creepy to me, plus he spouted some misogynistic shit once or twice.
In the end I'm in camp #freesonivton2017, but it's primarily a "This is our house" ban, especially because LL off-topic basically is a house at this point.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 20 2017 12:59 GMT
#57254
I don't get it. The reason given seems to bear no relation to the actual, and rather humorous post. The ban seems to be the result of some sort of personal grudge, which means that from now on, I have to be really wary of arguing against a TL staff member.


On January 20 2017 13:43 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
he randomly would come into the thread and post random stuff like that ignoring everything else and was told to stop. he didn't. never did anything else or talked. It's like you had a book club once a week and a guy just showed up doing nothing but this

[image loading]
Anyways there's a poster who is like this and anybody who has a reasonable command of English understands that he is basically doing as the comic does, but he isn't randomly banned either.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18207 Posts
January 20 2017 13:46 GMT
#57255
On January 20 2017 21:59 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I don't get it. The reason given seems to bear no relation to the actual, and rather humorous post. The ban seems to be the result of some sort of personal grudge, which means that from now on, I have to be really wary of arguing against a TL staff member.


Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 13:43 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
he randomly would come into the thread and post random stuff like that ignoring everything else and was told to stop. he didn't. never did anything else or talked. It's like you had a book club once a week and a guy just showed up doing nothing but this

[image loading]
Anyways there's a poster who is like this and anybody who has a reasonable command of English understands that he is basically doing as the comic does, but he isn't randomly banned either.

That has been true here since forever. It's why Opisska is so funny ranting and railing against it. It's rule number 1 of the 10 commandments. Accept that all opinions are equal, but some are more equal than others, and you will be fine. And no, arguing with a TL Staff member in the US/UK/EU politics threads won't get you banned. But having wonky opinions on the feminine psyche, and voicing them in completely unrelated threads, may.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 20 2017 13:51 GMT
#57256
On January 20 2017 22:46 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 21:59 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I don't get it. The reason given seems to bear no relation to the actual, and rather humorous post. The ban seems to be the result of some sort of personal grudge, which means that from now on, I have to be really wary of arguing against a TL staff member.


On January 20 2017 13:43 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
he randomly would come into the thread and post random stuff like that ignoring everything else and was told to stop. he didn't. never did anything else or talked. It's like you had a book club once a week and a guy just showed up doing nothing but this

[image loading]
Anyways there's a poster who is like this and anybody who has a reasonable command of English understands that he is basically doing as the comic does, but he isn't randomly banned either.

That has been true here since forever. It's why Opisska is so funny ranting and railing against it. It's rule number 1 of the 10 commandments. Accept that all opinions are equal, but some are more equal than others, and you will be fine. And no, arguing with a TL Staff member in the US/UK/EU politics threads won't get you banned. But having wonky opinions on the feminine psyche, and voicing them in completely unrelated threads, may.


I think that my dissent against this rule is being constantly misinterpreted and you are now doing the same. I was never questioning the right of TL staff to enforce the rule, I am merely of the opinion that it is detrimental to their own goals to have a good discussion platform and their own personal development. Or does someone really believe that the mods vigorously enforcing an echo chamber around themselves is doing them any good?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-20 14:09:24
January 20 2017 14:08 GMT
#57257

Acrofales what do you find funny about someone pointing out that the banning appers to be unjustified as related to the post he was banned for?

Reading the reason given the mod appears to be banning people based on what appears to be a personal grudge. Having been on the recieving end it's rather unpleasant.

Yes, the mods have ultimate power. Afterall, other users don't have the ability to ban or unban people. We all know that. No one disputes that. Anyways, I don't think this is the place to discuss this.

Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10267 Posts
January 20 2017 15:53 GMT
#57258
On January 20 2017 23:08 Dangermousecatdog wrote:

Acrofales what do you find funny about someone pointing out that the banning appers to be unjustified as related to the post he was banned for?

Reading the reason given the mod appears to be banning people based on what appears to be a personal grudge. Having been on the recieving end it's rather unpleasant.

Yes, the mods have ultimate power. Afterall, other users don't have the ability to ban or unban people. We all know that. No one disputes that. Anyways, I don't think this is the place to discuss this.


That's one thing I don't get it - what better place to discuss it than here? On Website feedback I feel like that is an elevated complaint, and one that few if any will see. Here, we are supposed to be discussing bans in the automated ban list, but not supposed to discuss whether we agree with the ban or not? Why?

Anyway, once concession I will make is that context is very important in matters like these - although the posts themselves maybe did not warrant a ban directly, if this was in a thread that would make these posts wildly off-topic and he did it consistently, I can understand that (this is what has been inferred). We've also only seen a handful of posts out of his thousands - what if they are all more or less of this nature? While none being blatantly offensive, if each is abrasive, then the cumulative impact would be worthy of a ban for sure. I had my second account permed for something like this. OR, if as someone said, this poster has said very misogynistic things in the past, then even weak allusions to that in these posts would be referencing a greater offense that was actioned in the past.

That is all speculation in an effort to play devil's advocate with my own stance that those posts in a vacuum weren't ban-worthy. My initial impression is that, as others have said, it was a dogmatic action from the mod. Or that the mod is heavyset. No way of knowing.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
January 20 2017 16:19 GMT
#57259
Meh, live by the sword, die by the sword!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 20 2017 16:20 GMT
#57260
On January 21 2017 01:19 farvacola wrote:
Meh, live by the sword, die by the sword!


Meh, penis mightier
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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