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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18112 Posts
November 23 2016 08:05 GMT
#56841
On November 23 2016 17:02 fluidrone wrote:
See? Like padawans you "normal" / "kind" peeps try to get out of it.. (and you are nice, imagine just how worse it goes with the same subject and bad people)
you say "there is no definite effectiveness".. you are kidding yourself right?

Wearing a surgical mask prevents most of your involuntary coughs and spits to get airborn.. it is standard procedure in many many places,

.. MOST people in our "western" countries join the "oups" generation and get those germs available to EVERY one around. Result of wearing one is you infect almost no one INVOLUNTARILY.

Stay at home when you are ill.. not everyone has this luxury, not to mention this is barely a very short sighted dodge.. what about inside the house? You have to wear it for people living in your house, .. no!!!?

...

i come from a life just like yours where i was selfish and self entitled (just like you guys, never wearing mask etc) for 30 years.. then
.. i had to wear one when my second kid was born .. wait for it .. so i wouldn't kill said kid with my normal adult germs!
When i say "one" i mean hundreds of masks over a month period...
Now i hate wearing it with a passion, i'm a lazy son of bit ch but .. forced and compelled, i changed.. trust me, you can too.

As for no trump link? sorry there is a definite link:
we have to fight adversity, not let it thrive.. everywhere!
..trump being allowed to say the things he says (and no one would challenge him / try to make it stop) and furthermore allowing for "it" to be elected at such a prominent platform, WE tell kids "it is ok" "this is the world" "join us in anarchy and suicide"..

.. telling people that it wont probably help to wear a mask to not infect other people is
exactly like
telling people that it is ok to act like trump..

am i wrong?

tell me i'm wrong

Your in the wrong








thread
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
November 23 2016 08:06 GMT
#56842
On November 23 2016 17:02 fluidrone wrote:
See? Like padawans you "normal" / "kind" peeps try to get out of it.. (and you are nice, imagine just how worse it goes with the same subject and bad people)
you say "there is no definite effectiveness".. you are kidding yourself right?

Wearing a surgical mask prevents most of your involuntary coughs and spits to get airborn.. it is standard procedure in many many places,

.. MOST people in our "western" countries join the "oups" generation and get those germs available to EVERY one around. Result of wearing one is you infect almost no one INVOLUNTARILY.

Stay at home when you are ill.. not everyone has this luxury, not to mention this is barely a very short sighted dodge.. what about inside the house? You have to wear it for people living in your house, .. no!!!?

...

i come from a life just like yours where i was selfish and self entitled (just like you guys, never wearing mask etc) for 30 years.. then
.. i had to wear one when my second kid was born .. wait for it .. so i wouldn't kill said kid with my normal adult germs!
When i say "one" i mean hundreds of masks over a month period...
Now i hate wearing it with a passion, i'm a lazy son of bit ch but .. forced and compelled, i changed.. trust me, you can too.

As for no trump link? sorry there is a definite link:
we have to fight adversity, not let it thrive.. everywhere!
..trump being allowed to say the things he says (and no one would challenge him / try to make it stop) and furthermore allowing for "it" to be elected at such a prominent platform, WE tell kids "it is ok" "this is the world" "join us in anarchy and suicide"..

.. telling people that "it probably wont help" to wear a mask to not infect other people is
exactly like
telling people that it is ok to act like trump..

am i wrong?

tell me i'm wrong


You're wrong.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-23 08:57:58
November 23 2016 08:56 GMT
#56843
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 23 2016 17:02 fluidrone wrote:
Sorry for off topicness (well not really because if i was discussing a ban, that would mean someone got banned and i wouldn't want someone to have been banned )
+ Show Spoiler +

On November 22 2016 23:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2016 20:59 fluidrone wrote:
On November 21 2016 10:31 dNa wrote:
On November 21 2016 03:07 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On November 20 2016 16:04 Lumi wrote:
All i can think about is how dopey the sars mask guy is and how he's ruining the whole photoshoot with that crap. I don't understand why he wasn't ridiculed into submission and good mental health.

User was temp banned for this post.


I feel like the guy just misunderstood the purpose of that mask and probably thinks the guy is a germophobe to an extend where he can't even take the mask off even for a photoshoot. Most of us westerners don't understand the concept of wearing a mask when being sick and just spread our germs freely :p


This is one of the worst examples of our "advanced" nations (lol).. asian people feel it it is "normal" to not want to spread your illness .. and so they look weird (in the street at the market at school wherever) .. "we" feel it makes no difference = lol.

It is like the age old question: do you wash your hands before or after going to pee? Answer is both.

We should wear masks to prevent hurting others but our preoccupation remains purely selfish, we want to look cool and a tissue on one's face is just not.. cool.

#Trump generation

Not much to do with Trump.

I would say if you are ill enough to be contagious you can also just stay home and get better. If not spreading your illness is the rational behind the masks, then it might also reveal a society in which everyone needs to function all the time 100%; which is equally disturbing than not caring at all.

Don't get the washing your hands before peeing? What's the idea?



On November 23 2016 02:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2016 20:59 fluidrone wrote:
On November 21 2016 10:31 dNa wrote:
On November 21 2016 03:07 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On November 20 2016 16:04 Lumi wrote:
All i can think about is how dopey the sars mask guy is and how he's ruining the whole photoshoot with that crap. I don't understand why he wasn't ridiculed into submission and good mental health.

User was temp banned for this post.


I feel like the guy just misunderstood the purpose of that mask and probably thinks the guy is a germophobe to an extend where he can't even take the mask off even for a photoshoot. Most of us westerners don't understand the concept of wearing a mask when being sick and just spread our germs freely :p


This is one of the worst examples of our "advanced" nations (lol).. asian people feel it it is "normal" to not want to spread your illness .. and so they look weird (in the street at the market at school wherever) .. "we" feel it makes no difference = lol.

It is like the age old question: do you wash your hands before or after going to pee? Answer is both.

We should wear masks to prevent hurting others but our preoccupation remains purely selfish, we want to look cool and a tissue on one's face is just not.. cool.

#Trump generation


While there is evidence for face masks to be effective in a home or hospital setting, there isn't any evidence that they are useful elsewhere. So not wearing an ineffective mask isn't exactly a sign of selfishness. They are useful as a "I'm sick, keep away" type of thing though.



See? Like padawans you "normal" / "kind" peeps try to get out of it.. (and you are nice, imagine just how worse it goes with the same subject and bad people)
you say "there is no definite effectiveness".. you are kidding yourself right?

Wearing a surgical mask prevents most of your involuntary coughs and spits to get airborn.. it is standard procedure in many many places,

.. MOST people in our "western" countries join the "oups" generation and get those germs available to EVERY one around. Result of wearing one is you infect almost no one INVOLUNTARILY.

Stay at home when you are ill.. not everyone has this luxury, not to mention this is barely a very short sighted dodge.. what about inside the house? You have to wear it for people living in your house, .. no!!!?

...

i come from a life just like yours where i was selfish and self entitled (just like you guys, never wearing mask etc) for 30 years.. then
.. i had to wear one when my second kid was born .. wait for it .. so i wouldn't kill said kid with my normal adult germs!
When i say "one" i mean hundreds of masks over a month period...
Now i hate wearing it with a passion, i'm a lazy son of bit ch but .. forced and compelled, i changed.. trust me, you can too.

As for no trump link? sorry there is a definite link:
we have to fight adversity, not let it thrive.. everywhere!
..trump being allowed to say the things he says (and no one would challenge him / try to make it stop) and furthermore allowing for "it" to be elected at such a prominent platform, WE tell kids "it is ok to do this.." "this is the world we live in, do it too.." "join us in anarchy and suicide"..

.. telling people that "it probably wont help" to wear a mask to not infect other people is
exactly like
telling people that it is ok to act like trump.. telling people that "speaking up against it is useless etc"

am i wrong?

tell me i'm wrong

ps: the wash your hands bid+ Show Spoiler +
:
1/ you wash your hands after peeing because?
2/ you wash your hands before because?

1/for other people
2/for yourself

1/prevents you putting pee on stuff
2/prevents you from putting stuff on your weewee

You're wrong.

Here's a quote from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC):

The lack of clear scientific evidence regarding the effectiveness of facemasks and respirators in protecting against influenza poses a challenge to proposing interim guidance on the use of these devices during a pandemic.


So please send all your comments about facemasks and Trump to the CDC not the ABL.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
November 23 2016 10:31 GMT
#56844
Wrong or not, did i see some spoilers there?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18112 Posts
November 23 2016 10:32 GMT
#56845
On November 23 2016 19:31 Skynx wrote:
Wrong or not, did i see some spoilers there?

Can we get fluidrone banned by editing spoilers into the quote of his post?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
November 23 2016 16:28 GMT
#56846
On November 23 2016 17:06 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2016 17:02 fluidrone wrote:
See? Like padawans you "normal" / "kind" peeps try to get out of it.. (and you are nice, imagine just how worse it goes with the same subject and bad people)
you say "there is no definite effectiveness".. you are kidding yourself right?

Wearing a surgical mask prevents most of your involuntary coughs and spits to get airborn.. it is standard procedure in many many places,

.. MOST people in our "western" countries join the "oups" generation and get those germs available to EVERY one around. Result of wearing one is you infect almost no one INVOLUNTARILY.

Stay at home when you are ill.. not everyone has this luxury, not to mention this is barely a very short sighted dodge.. what about inside the house? You have to wear it for people living in your house, .. no!!!?

...

i come from a life just like yours where i was selfish and self entitled (just like you guys, never wearing mask etc) for 30 years.. then
.. i had to wear one when my second kid was born .. wait for it .. so i wouldn't kill said kid with my normal adult germs!
When i say "one" i mean hundreds of masks over a month period...
Now i hate wearing it with a passion, i'm a lazy son of bit ch but .. forced and compelled, i changed.. trust me, you can too.

As for no trump link? sorry there is a definite link:
we have to fight adversity, not let it thrive.. everywhere!
..trump being allowed to say the things he says (and no one would challenge him / try to make it stop) and furthermore allowing for "it" to be elected at such a prominent platform, WE tell kids "it is ok" "this is the world" "join us in anarchy and suicide"..

.. telling people that "it probably wont help" to wear a mask to not infect other people is
exactly like
telling people that it is ok to act like trump..

am i wrong?

tell me i'm wrong


You're wrong.

so damn wrong
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RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
November 23 2016 20:36 GMT
#56847
On November 23 2016 19:32 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2016 19:31 Skynx wrote:
Wrong or not, did i see some spoilers there?

Can we get fluidrone banned by editing spoilers into the quote of his post?

How ironic.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 23 2016 20:41 GMT
#56848
On November 24 2016 01:28 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2016 17:06 Phredxor wrote:
On November 23 2016 17:02 fluidrone wrote:
See? Like padawans you "normal" / "kind" peeps try to get out of it.. (and you are nice, imagine just how worse it goes with the same subject and bad people)
you say "there is no definite effectiveness".. you are kidding yourself right?

Wearing a surgical mask prevents most of your involuntary coughs and spits to get airborn.. it is standard procedure in many many places,

.. MOST people in our "western" countries join the "oups" generation and get those germs available to EVERY one around. Result of wearing one is you infect almost no one INVOLUNTARILY.

Stay at home when you are ill.. not everyone has this luxury, not to mention this is barely a very short sighted dodge.. what about inside the house? You have to wear it for people living in your house, .. no!!!?

...

i come from a life just like yours where i was selfish and self entitled (just like you guys, never wearing mask etc) for 30 years.. then
.. i had to wear one when my second kid was born .. wait for it .. so i wouldn't kill said kid with my normal adult germs!
When i say "one" i mean hundreds of masks over a month period...
Now i hate wearing it with a passion, i'm a lazy son of bit ch but .. forced and compelled, i changed.. trust me, you can too.

As for no trump link? sorry there is a definite link:
we have to fight adversity, not let it thrive.. everywhere!
..trump being allowed to say the things he says (and no one would challenge him / try to make it stop) and furthermore allowing for "it" to be elected at such a prominent platform, WE tell kids "it is ok" "this is the world" "join us in anarchy and suicide"..

.. telling people that "it probably wont help" to wear a mask to not infect other people is
exactly like
telling people that it is ok to act like trump..

am i wrong?

tell me i'm wrong


You're wrong.

so damn wrong


What if he is not even wrong?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 23 2016 20:41 GMT
#56849
i think he is just trying to test kwark's resolve by starting the rape discussion.

On November 24 2016 05:27 Doodsmack wrote:
This looks like a prime opportunity to talk about how our new president is a rapist.

User was temp banned for this post.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 23 2016 23:08 GMT
#56850
On November 24 2016 05:41 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2016 01:28 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 23 2016 17:06 Phredxor wrote:
On November 23 2016 17:02 fluidrone wrote:
See? Like padawans you "normal" / "kind" peeps try to get out of it.. (and you are nice, imagine just how worse it goes with the same subject and bad people)
you say "there is no definite effectiveness".. you are kidding yourself right?

Wearing a surgical mask prevents most of your involuntary coughs and spits to get airborn.. it is standard procedure in many many places,

.. MOST people in our "western" countries join the "oups" generation and get those germs available to EVERY one around. Result of wearing one is you infect almost no one INVOLUNTARILY.

Stay at home when you are ill.. not everyone has this luxury, not to mention this is barely a very short sighted dodge.. what about inside the house? You have to wear it for people living in your house, .. no!!!?

...

i come from a life just like yours where i was selfish and self entitled (just like you guys, never wearing mask etc) for 30 years.. then
.. i had to wear one when my second kid was born .. wait for it .. so i wouldn't kill said kid with my normal adult germs!
When i say "one" i mean hundreds of masks over a month period...
Now i hate wearing it with a passion, i'm a lazy son of bit ch but .. forced and compelled, i changed.. trust me, you can too.

As for no trump link? sorry there is a definite link:
we have to fight adversity, not let it thrive.. everywhere!
..trump being allowed to say the things he says (and no one would challenge him / try to make it stop) and furthermore allowing for "it" to be elected at such a prominent platform, WE tell kids "it is ok" "this is the world" "join us in anarchy and suicide"..

.. telling people that "it probably wont help" to wear a mask to not infect other people is
exactly like
telling people that it is ok to act like trump..

am i wrong?

tell me i'm wrong


You're wrong.

so damn wrong


What if he is not even wrong?

Probably the case. He's begging to achieve the status of wrong, but i wouldn't say he quite got there. Good effort though.
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-24 00:02:56
November 24 2016 00:00 GMT
#56851
I fail to see how linking is an argument?

+ Show Spoiler [Quote] +
the first page I found:
"Other studies found promising results outside of the household. For example, one such study was conducted by a team of researchers from the University of Michigan on more than 1,000 students living in residence halls. They assigned the student to groups: those who wore masks, those who wore masks and practiced hand hygiene, and those who did neither. The results showed that those who wore masks in residence halls and practiced good handwashing
reduced their risk of flu-like illness by an astonishing 75 percent."
"not enough rights"
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 24 2016 08:56 GMT
#56852
What if this is all an evil plan to recolonize Asia? Let them all wear masks, flu is eliminated, immunity lost, then we decimate the population by coming in and sneezing and take the land. The preparations have already begun, because we still need to be beat anyone who is left alive and so far we are at the right track, at least when it comes to SC2-warfare. No surprise fluidrone is a part of the plan.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 24 2016 09:33 GMT
#56853
Sounds like a piss-poor theory to me.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 24 2016 09:39 GMT
#56854
On November 24 2016 18:33 LegalLord wrote:
Sounds like a piss-poor theory to me.


ima gonna put a cipher in my posts predicting your reaction to them and post a key afterwards and seem like a prophet.

cause my dear legallight, this is exactly what i have foreseen doesnt it bother you that you are so predictable? why even post a post that everyone knows you'll post?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 24 2016 09:49 GMT
#56855
Legallight, that's a good one. I now imagine myself as a statue symbolizing justice holding a torch to guide people to the proper path.

Naturally, I do expect that people will be bowing down before me. But that goes without saying.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
November 24 2016 10:47 GMT
#56856
The subltely is in which way people are bowing.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 24 2016 10:49 GMT
#56857
I also will need to have laser beams installed in my eyes to take down those who choose not to properly pay tribute towards the Light of Justice that I would be.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
November 24 2016 10:58 GMT
#56858
On November 24 2016 19:49 LegalLord wrote:
I also will need to have laser beams installed in my eyes to take down those who choose not to properly pay tribute towards the Light of Justice that I would be.


That'd be awesome. Laserbeam through the eyes, soooooo cooool !!
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 24 2016 12:33 GMT
#56859
On November 24 2016 18:49 LegalLord wrote:
Legallight, that's a good one. I now imagine myself as a statue symbolizing justice holding a torch to guide people to the proper path.

Naturally, I do expect that people will be bowing down before me. But that goes without saying.


Do you have more alts or previous accounts to feed my creativity, or is that it?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
November 24 2016 15:45 GMT
#56860
On November 24 2016 09:00 fluidrone wrote:
I fail to see how linking is an argument?

+ Show Spoiler
Show nested quote +
+
the first page I found:
"Other studies found promising results outside of the household. For example, one such study was conducted by a team of researchers from the University of Michigan on more than 1,000 students living in residence halls. They assigned the student to groups: those who wore masks, those who wore masks and practiced hand hygiene, and those who did neither. The results showed that those who wore masks in residence halls and practiced good handwashing
reduced their risk of flu-like illness by an astonishing 75 percent."

I'm not a scientist so I might be wrong about this, but as far as I can tell that study is not conclusive as what actually worked.
See they had two dimensions, wearing surgical masks, and hand sanitation. To figure out what the correlation between these are and if there's a synergetic effect you would have to have four sample groups They did not, only having three, missing out on the no face mask - hand sanitation group. But even with only three sample groups they still didn't get enough data to be statistically significant for the group with masks and no hand sanitation (due to how rare people getting influenza-like illnesses during the 6 weeks of the study was even with a total sample size of 1000 students.)

I would hesitate to draw any strong conclusions from this study.
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