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fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-24 16:10:50
November 24 2016 16:04 GMT
#56861
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 25 2016 00:45 salle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2016 09:00 fluidrone wrote:
I fail to see how linking is an argument?

+ Show Spoiler
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the first page I found:
"Other studies found promising results outside of the household. For example, one such study was conducted by a team of researchers from the University of Michigan on more than 1,000 students living in residence halls. They assigned the student to groups: those who wore masks, those who wore masks and practiced hand hygiene, and those who did neither. The results showed that those who wore masks in residence halls and practiced good handwashing
reduced their risk of flu-like illness by an astonishing 75 percent."

I'm not a scientist so I might be wrong about this, but as far as I can tell that study is not conclusive as what actually worked.
See they had two dimensions, wearing surgical masks, and hand sanitation. To figure out what the correlation between these are and if there's a synergetic effect you would have to have four sample groups They did not, only having three, missing out on the no face mask - hand sanitation group. But even with only three sample groups they still didn't get enough data to be statistically significant for the group with masks and no hand sanitation (due to how rare people getting influenza-like illnesses during the 6 weeks of the study was even with a total sample size of 1000 students.)

I would hesitate to draw any strong conclusions from this study.

I don't either. I think those studies are skewed (either way).

What i do think is quite simple:

when i had to wear a mask it helped me "be in that mode".. a "spread no infection mode".
This "practice" (to wear a mask to not cough / spit in people's faces when applicable) is a way to make people aware (not scared mind you!) of how things work. People get into situations and they see the world better..
wearing a mask when you are sick is like taking a placebo, it allows for you to remember all day that you have to wash your hands take your pills..
.. it signals to others that you are weakened and in need of extra leeway or other..
.. it means you care about not COUGHING on other people!!
etc
etc.. life is mindsets isn't it?

Anyway,

fact is humans are a giant interchanging cesspool and that we all share it is the only reason that our specie survives (only strongest survive yes).

No! no! Really what the subject is here (for me) .. is no one (me included) wants to be pointed at while doing something "good" for others, it is an uber castrate type of picture we draw for ourselves when we contemplate using a mask or not.
Which is why our culture has great difficulty in doing it.. we place all on ourselves.. no?
i for one am happy that people don't want to spit in my face.. and i feel compelled to return the favor when i'm real sick and snot.

ps edit: + Show Spoiler [modshootout] +
sorry for off topicness, please temp ban someone (possibly me ) to re re re re set abl standard example..
please no more than 2 days


User was temp banned for this post.
"not enough rights"
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 24 2016 16:13 GMT
#56862
On November 25 2016 01:04 fluidrone wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 25 2016 00:45 salle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2016 09:00 fluidrone wrote:
I fail to see how linking is an argument?

+ Show Spoiler
+
the first page I found:
"Other studies found promising results outside of the household. For example, one such study was conducted by a team of researchers from the University of Michigan on more than 1,000 students living in residence halls. They assigned the student to groups: those who wore masks, those who wore masks and practiced hand hygiene, and those who did neither. The results showed that those who wore masks in residence halls and practiced good handwashing
reduced their risk of flu-like illness by an astonishing 75 percent."

I'm not a scientist so I might be wrong about this, but as far as I can tell that study is not conclusive as what actually worked.
See they had two dimensions, wearing surgical masks, and hand sanitation. To figure out what the correlation between these are and if there's a synergetic effect you would have to have four sample groups They did not, only having three, missing out on the no face mask - hand sanitation group. But even with only three sample groups they still didn't get enough data to be statistically significant for the group with masks and no hand sanitation (due to how rare people getting influenza-like illnesses during the 6 weeks of the study was even with a total sample size of 1000 students.)

I would hesitate to draw any strong conclusions from this study.

I don't either. I think those studies are skewed (either way).

What i do think is quite simple:

when i had to wear a mask it helped me "be in that mode".. a "spread no infection mode".
This "practice" (to wear a mask to not cough / spit in people's faces when applicable) is a way to make people aware (not scared mind you!) of how things work. People get into situations and they see the world better..
wearing a mask when you are sick is like taking a placebo, it allows for you to remember all day that you have to wash your hands take your pills..
.. it signals to others that you are weakened and in need of extra leeway or other..
.. it means you care about not COUGHING on other people!!
etc
etc.. life is mindsets isn't it?

Anyway,

fact is humans are a giant interchanging cesspool and that we all share it is the only reason that our specie survives (only strongest survive yes).

No! no! Really what the subject is here (for me) .. is no one (me included) wants to be pointed at while doing something "good" for others, it is an uber castrate type of picture we draw for ourselves when we contemplate using a mask or not.
Which is why our culture has great difficulty in doing it.. we place all on ourselves.. no?
i for one am happy that people don't want to spit in my face.. and i feel compelled to return the favor when i'm real sick and snot.

ps edit: + Show Spoiler [modshootout] +
sorry for off topicness, please temp ban someone (possibly me ) to re re re re set abl standard example..
please no more than 2 days


I love how you preach respect for others yet often cant be bothered to post in a way easily readable for others
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 24 2016 16:15 GMT
#56863
On November 24 2016 21:33 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2016 18:49 LegalLord wrote:
Legallight, that's a good one. I now imagine myself as a statue symbolizing justice holding a torch to guide people to the proper path.

Naturally, I do expect that people will be bowing down before me. But that goes without saying.


Do you have more alts or previous accounts to feed my creativity, or is that it?

What better food for creativity is there than the mystery of knowing that they may or may not have existed?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
November 24 2016 20:25 GMT
#56864
If you go out wearing a surgical mask to not infect people you're an ass. Stay at home, get well.

If you have to like stay at home with your kids, remember to wash your hands often, and I guess wear a mask if it helps you remember to clean your hands and not touch your face but then a string around your finger might do the job just as well.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
November 24 2016 21:21 GMT
#56865
ABL = Anti Bacterial-Surgeon-Mask League
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-24 22:08:10
November 24 2016 22:07 GMT
#56866
I did not think that one ban would lead to this much discussion.

I think this guy out meta'd himself

On November 24 2016 15:27 Nakajin wrote:
Wow Incontrol pulling the old "I am going to stay in the starcraft scene" when he is turning his back on us. I hope you die eaten by a shark, after you just escape of your car you drove into the ocean because you got your eye burn by trying to watch an eclipse while driving.

+ Show Spoiler +
Jk I am not mad at you for leaving EG, and I know how much you love SC2 and how many hours of work you have given to this community. + Show Spoiler +
I just want you to die in a terrible fashion because I generaly hate you!


User was temp banned for this post.

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 25 2016 06:12 GMT
#56867
On November 25 2016 05:25 salle wrote:
If you go out wearing a surgical mask to not infect people you're an ass. Stay at home, get well.

If you have to like stay at home with your kids, remember to wash your hands often, and I guess wear a mask if it helps you remember to clean your hands and not touch your face but then a string around your finger might do the job just as well.


what if you have no other choice? then you wear the mask while apologizing

+ Show Spoiler +
life is mindsets+ Show Spoiler +
#trumpgeneration+ Show Spoiler +
an ##precariatgeneration+ Show Spoiler +
deregulation leads to more masks
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
November 25 2016 07:52 GMT
#56868
On November 25 2016 05:25 salle wrote:
If you go out wearing a surgical mask to not infect people you're an ass. Stay at home, get well.

If you have to like stay at home with your kids, remember to wash your hands often, and I guess wear a mask if it helps you remember to clean your hands and not touch your face but then a string around your finger might do the job just as well.

Some people can't afford to stay at home, simply not an option.
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RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
November 25 2016 09:36 GMT
#56869
On November 25 2016 16:52 Nixer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2016 05:25 salle wrote:
If you go out wearing a surgical mask to not infect people you're an ass. Stay at home, get well.

If you have to like stay at home with your kids, remember to wash your hands often, and I guess wear a mask if it helps you remember to clean your hands and not touch your face but then a string around your finger might do the job just as well.

Some people can't afford to stay at home, simply not an option.

In the rich western countries you are getting paid sick leave from work.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23460 Posts
November 25 2016 09:42 GMT
#56870
On November 25 2016 18:36 RoomOfMush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2016 16:52 Nixer wrote:
On November 25 2016 05:25 salle wrote:
If you go out wearing a surgical mask to not infect people you're an ass. Stay at home, get well.

If you have to like stay at home with your kids, remember to wash your hands often, and I guess wear a mask if it helps you remember to clean your hands and not touch your face but then a string around your finger might do the job just as well.

Some people can't afford to stay at home, simply not an option.

In the rich western countries you are getting paid sick leave from work.


Unless you're talking about the richest one, and the people who need it most.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-25 13:22:42
November 25 2016 13:22 GMT
#56871
Usually in Asian country when you go out and wear a mask, doesn't matter if it's a surgical mask or not and doesn't matter if you're sick or not. It's normal stuff there. I once wear mask to school during the H1N1 break out for months because my mom made me wear it, even though it doesn't really reduce the chance you not catching the virus.

So I guess it's like a cultural stuff then. Some people in certain countries do it, if it doesn't personally affect us then no reason to get mad over such things
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
November 25 2016 14:51 GMT
#56872
On November 25 2016 18:42 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2016 18:36 RoomOfMush wrote:
On November 25 2016 16:52 Nixer wrote:
On November 25 2016 05:25 salle wrote:
If you go out wearing a surgical mask to not infect people you're an ass. Stay at home, get well.

If you have to like stay at home with your kids, remember to wash your hands often, and I guess wear a mask if it helps you remember to clean your hands and not touch your face but then a string around your finger might do the job just as well.

Some people can't afford to stay at home, simply not an option.

In the rich western countries you are getting paid sick leave from work.


Unless you're talking about the richest one, and the people who need it most.

But that one is a pretty fucked up country. It should be obvious that wasnt the one I meant.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 25 2016 19:53 GMT
#56873
It's actually pretty ironic that when sick pay exists, less working days are lost to sickness and productivity increases.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
November 25 2016 20:03 GMT
#56874
On November 26 2016 04:53 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It's actually pretty ironic that when sick pay exists, less working days are lost to sickness and productivity increases.



makes sense though cause you don't have sick people going into work and they can actually rest until they get better
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
November 25 2016 20:07 GMT
#56875
Is Jewing an actual term or is this guy just inventing the term. regardless yeah if you've been warned multiple times probably best to think of another term


On November 26 2016 03:10 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2016 03:00 Dracolich70 wrote:
On November 26 2016 02:56 hunter_x wrote:
On November 26 2016 02:53 wims80 wrote:
On November 26 2016 02:50 hunter_x wrote:
On November 26 2016 02:36 wims80 wrote:
wtf is liquid doing :D

wtf is alliance doing?

Getting rubber-banded after outplaying liquid for 25 minutes?

Or just getting ouplayed by liquid when it mattered?
When you have been outplayed for 25 mins and can turn everything 180 in one team fight, you know there is a problem with the game.

?. they had safe lane slardar, furion and jugg. the only hero on alliance that could ever deal with a fat tb was jugg. jugg itemized like a 3k pubbie knowing that tb's been jewing all game and he's liquid's only hope to get back in the game. alliance had a pub draft (gank, gank, gank, gank, drop a rock in teamfight). pub drafts work sometimes because pros are capable of snowballing games without making that big mistake that lets the rubber band fuck them over. alliance fucked up and they got punished for their draft and especially for jugg's poor itemization. there's nothing wrong with the game, there's a lot wrong with drafting tons of gank and then teamfighting without warlock ult.

User was temp banned for this post.



Kabras was just temp banned for 2 days by BluemoonSC.

That account was created on 2011-06-03 07:58:12 and had 1008 posts.

Reason: You've been warned for using bigoted language before, you should know that this is unacceptable. In the future, please come up with a different word to describe a Terrorblade who has been farming.


"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
November 25 2016 20:09 GMT
#56876
I'm not sure what "actual term" is, but dumbass internet kids and others without common sense use it from time to time.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 25 2016 20:26 GMT
#56877
its a thing in eve online, which has one of the edgiest video game communities out there
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
November 25 2016 22:22 GMT
#56878
On November 25 2016 18:36 RoomOfMush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2016 16:52 Nixer wrote:
On November 25 2016 05:25 salle wrote:
If you go out wearing a surgical mask to not infect people you're an ass. Stay at home, get well.

If you have to like stay at home with your kids, remember to wash your hands often, and I guess wear a mask if it helps you remember to clean your hands and not touch your face but then a string around your finger might do the job just as well.

Some people can't afford to stay at home, simply not an option.

In the rich western countries you are getting paid sick leave from work.

I'm well aware. I was obviously making a point.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
November 26 2016 03:19 GMT
#56879
On November 26 2016 05:09 farvacola wrote:
I'm not sure what "actual term" is, but dumbass internet kids and others without common sense use it from time to time.

That depends on your definition of what "is" is...
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11928 Posts
November 26 2016 10:14 GMT
#56880
hunter_x was just temp banned for 2 weeks by tehh4ck3r.

That account was created on 2014-06-05 06:35:52 and had 1 posts.

Reason: This is the 6th time you've been warned or banned for being an idiot in the Alliance discussion thread. The 7th time will be permanent.


So happy. Think I have reported him 5 times in that thread alone.
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