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On January 09 2013 22:54 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:19 Rollin wrote:On January 09 2013 22:14 JOJOsc2news wrote:On January 09 2013 21:46 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 09 2013 21:44 Deleuze wrote:On January 09 2013 18:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 09 2013 17:50 Defacer wrote:On January 09 2013 14:16 cLAN.Anax wrote:On January 09 2013 13:13 JingleHell wrote:On January 09 2013 12:57 cLAN.Anax wrote:neversummer and affinity_12 for me. So much conspiracy, I wouldn't dare pick their opponents. Even found this as one of neversummer's posts: [quote] I admit. I still lol'ed.  EDIT: Full prediction: jd's going to win and has my vote, even over neversummer because jd was a decent poster 85% of the time, but still had the crusader-like conviction that the mods were unfair and out to get him like neversummer. I believe he was a genuinely good commenter, but his paranoia clearly dropped him off the cliff into Disneyland. Gotta know: why isn't StateOfReverie on here again? He wouldn't win, but I still think he was a better candidate than most. 'Least an honorable mention would do, lol. Nah, jd was nuts, and he's definitely keeping himself fresh in the public eye by going on his mad zealous rampage, but Failsafe and Neversummer are better. Granted, affinity was interesting, but only because of the entertainment value that cropped up around him being proven a shill. Neversummer was just better at the "evil mods" ranting than JD, and Failsafe... well, let's face it, radioactive purple sloths were replacing his brain with whipped cream. It's tough to top a guy who can simultaneously maintain 2,000 high-post accounts like jd, man. neversummer may have quality on his side, but the sheer deluge of quantity coming from jd is simply insurmountable, in my opinion. Plus, consider post-ban activity: jd is now on Stimey's anti-TL site continuing his raging rants against the mods of Team Liquid. There's integrity, dedication and conviction to jd's obstinance and belligerence that is impressive. He's the poster that all self-aggrandizing jackasses think they are and should aspire to be. I don't think we should be encouraging this lol. Next thing you know we get a guy that is so fucked up he will start stalking and harassing moderators on a more personal level. EDIT: Wait... wait wait wait. I just remembered. How come that russian guy that kept making new accounts just to spam scat pics in LR threads and insult GMarshall's mother hasn't been nominated? :| The scat-man never reached the kind of profile others did in the ABL imo. Do we even know what his original account was? Y'know before he got so incredibly buttmad that he had to take a shit on the forums. (pun intended, hue hue hue) I'm really glad I missed all of that. Do you guys really find those kind of pictures that disturbing? I mean I find them distasteful, but it's just another (completely unwarranted) picture to me. Like I'd expect to see some level of immunity to shock/gore themes in an online community, given what the internet is comprised of. Not hating though. It is more of a quality thing imo, not letting posters like that run rampant. I am willing to bet at least some here have been desensitized to the point of not really caring about the image itself but the fact they are polluting TL with it. Who knows maybe the mods would have let him get away with an appreciation thread on the subject XD. I don't think it would have done too well in general though.
It's not about "guys i enjoy scat, does anyone else feel the same?"
It's the fact that he was a PBU who did this specifically to piss off random people as well as him posting "fuck gmarshall mother" or something along those lines. And it wasn't a single post either.
But yeah I personally didn't get offended or anything about it, it was just really annoying to have to scroll down past the 2-3 dozen big resolution pictures that his posts contained.
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On January 09 2013 22:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:54 ThomasjServo wrote:On January 09 2013 22:19 Rollin wrote:On January 09 2013 22:14 JOJOsc2news wrote:On January 09 2013 21:46 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 09 2013 21:44 Deleuze wrote:On January 09 2013 18:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 09 2013 17:50 Defacer wrote:On January 09 2013 14:16 cLAN.Anax wrote:On January 09 2013 13:13 JingleHell wrote:
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Nah, jd was nuts, and he's definitely keeping himself fresh in the public eye by going on his mad zealous rampage, but Failsafe and Neversummer are better. Granted, affinity was interesting, but only because of the entertainment value that cropped up around him being proven a shill.
Neversummer was just better at the "evil mods" ranting than JD, and Failsafe... well, let's face it, radioactive purple sloths were replacing his brain with whipped cream. It's tough to top a guy who can simultaneously maintain 2,000 high-post accounts like jd, man. neversummer may have quality on his side, but the sheer deluge of quantity coming from jd is simply insurmountable, in my opinion. Plus, consider post-ban activity: jd is now on Stimey's anti-TL site continuing his raging rants against the mods of Team Liquid. There's integrity, dedication and conviction to jd's obstinance and belligerence that is impressive. He's the poster that all self-aggrandizing jackasses think they are and should aspire to be. I don't think we should be encouraging this lol. Next thing you know we get a guy that is so fucked up he will start stalking and harassing moderators on a more personal level. EDIT: Wait... wait wait wait. I just remembered. How come that russian guy that kept making new accounts just to spam scat pics in LR threads and insult GMarshall's mother hasn't been nominated? :| The scat-man never reached the kind of profile others did in the ABL imo. Do we even know what his original account was? Y'know before he got so incredibly buttmad that he had to take a shit on the forums. (pun intended, hue hue hue) I'm really glad I missed all of that. Do you guys really find those kind of pictures that disturbing? I mean I find them distasteful, but it's just another (completely unwarranted) picture to me. Like I'd expect to see some level of immunity to shock/gore themes in an online community, given what the internet is comprised of. Not hating though. It is more of a quality thing imo, not letting posters like that run rampant. I am willing to bet at least some here have been desensitized to the point of not really caring about the image itself but the fact they are polluting TL with it. Who knows maybe the mods would have let him get away with an appreciation thread on the subject XD. I don't think it would have done too well in general though. It's not about "guys i enjoy scat, does anyone else feel the same?" It's the fact that he was a PBU who did this specifically to piss off random people as well as him posting "fuck gmarshall mother" or something along those lines. And it wasn't a single post either. But yeah I personally didn't get offended or anything about it, it was just really annoying to have to scroll down past the 2-3 dozen big resolution pictures that his posts contained.
Bad talking Mods, PBU, and unmitigated NSFW content three strikes you're out. Yeah I was more addressing the posting of that kind of NSFW content rather than the personal beefs those inclined to do such things bring to the ABL table.
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The ban awards are more about the bans that we find most hilarious or ridiculous or eyebrow-raising. Not about the one that deserved the ban the most.
Why are you obsessed with him anyway?
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On January 09 2013 23:07 Firebolt145 wrote:
The ban awards are more about the bans that we find most hilarious or ridiculous or eyebrow-raising. Not about the one that deserved the ban the most.
Why are you obsessed with him anyway?
I find it a bit underwhelming that we only have 6 nominees. And of those 6, if you ask me, Kiledxl and HanClan aren't even that interesting, I've seen quite a few of both raging hardcore at perceived imbalance and raging hardcore at mod actions (the latter especially, recently ^^)
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On January 09 2013 22:21 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:14 JOJOsc2news wrote:On January 09 2013 21:46 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 09 2013 21:44 Deleuze wrote:On January 09 2013 18:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 09 2013 17:50 Defacer wrote:On January 09 2013 14:16 cLAN.Anax wrote:On January 09 2013 13:13 JingleHell wrote:On January 09 2013 12:57 cLAN.Anax wrote:neversummer and affinity_12 for me. So much conspiracy, I wouldn't dare pick their opponents. Even found this as one of neversummer's posts: On September 09 2012 20:12 neversummer wrote:
Why don't you all just get on a big wooden ship and go back to France?
Edit: honest question
User was warned for this post I admit. I still lol'ed. EDIT: Full prediction: jd's going to win and has my vote, even over neversummer because jd was a decent poster 85% of the time, but still had the crusader-like conviction that the mods were unfair and out to get him like neversummer. I believe he was a genuinely good commenter, but his paranoia clearly dropped him off the cliff into Disneyland. Gotta know: why isn't StateOfReverie on here again? He wouldn't win, but I still think he was a better candidate than most. 'Least an honorable mention would do, lol. Nah, jd was nuts, and he's definitely keeping himself fresh in the public eye by going on his mad zealous rampage, but Failsafe and Neversummer are better. Granted, affinity was interesting, but only because of the entertainment value that cropped up around him being proven a shill. Neversummer was just better at the "evil mods" ranting than JD, and Failsafe... well, let's face it, radioactive purple sloths were replacing his brain with whipped cream. It's tough to top a guy who can simultaneously maintain 2,000 high-post accounts like jd, man. neversummer may have quality on his side, but the sheer deluge of quantity coming from jd is simply insurmountable, in my opinion. Plus, consider post-ban activity: jd is now on Stimey's anti-TL site continuing his raging rants against the mods of Team Liquid. There's integrity, dedication and conviction to jd's obstinance and belligerence that is impressive. He's the poster that all self-aggrandizing jackasses think they are and should aspire to be. I don't think we should be encouraging this lol. Next thing you know we get a guy that is so fucked up he will start stalking and harassing moderators on a more personal level. EDIT: Wait... wait wait wait. I just remembered. How come that russian guy that kept making new accounts just to spam scat pics in LR threads and insult GMarshall's mother hasn't been nominated? :| The scat-man never reached the kind of profile others did in the ABL imo. Do we even know what his original account was? Y'know before he got so incredibly buttmad that he had to take a shit on the forums. (pun intended, hue hue hue) I'm really glad I missed all of that. I guess you don't visit LR threads much... He has done it in the threads for main events such as WCS EU, GSL, GSL finals, MLG and a random CSL thread... probably more. Anyway here's a relevant thread with us complaining about it. He even posted there. Good thing we haven't seen much of him in a while. Good riddance. His no-life dedication was nothing short of astonishing though.
I do I do. Between beginning of June '12 until January '13 I wasn't on TL at all though. 
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On January 09 2013 23:27 TL.net Bot wrote:Zealos was just t emp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB. That account was created on 2011-11-07 22:30:03 and had 1462 posts. Reason: QQing in that thread is fine, calling russians a cancer on everyone goes a little too far. Show nested quote +Do russian people get educations? Can they not locate themselves on a map? They have their own fucking server for crying out loud, why do they have to be a cancer on everyone elses?
I guess you could say...
... he was a little overZealos.
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On January 09 2013 23:35 Archas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 23:27 TL.net Bot wrote:Zealos was just t emp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB. That account was created on 2011-11-07 22:30:03 and had 1462 posts. Reason: QQing in that thread is fine, calling russians a cancer on everyone goes a little too far. Do russian people get educations? Can they not locate themselves on a map? They have their own fucking server for crying out loud, why do they have to be a cancer on everyone elses? I guess you could say... ... he was a little overZealos.
Context? I see it's from the DotA 2 designated waah waah thread but other than that not sure... :/
Also: good one. 8D
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On January 09 2013 23:27 TL.net Bot wrote:Zealos was just t emp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB. That account was created on 2011-11-07 22:30:03 and had 1462 posts. Reason: QQing in that thread is fine, calling russians a cancer on everyone goes a little too far. Show nested quote +Do russian people get educations? Can they not locate themselves on a map? They have their own fucking server for crying out loud, why do they have to be a cancer on everyone elses?
I suppose one could say...
..."his life was for 'ire.'"
+ Show Spoiler +Heh? No? Okay.... 
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On January 09 2013 23:43 cLAN.Anax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 23:27 TL.net Bot wrote:Zealos was just t emp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB. That account was created on 2011-11-07 22:30:03 and had 1462 posts. Reason: QQing in that thread is fine, calling russians a cancer on everyone goes a little too far. Do russian people get educations? Can they not locate themselves on a map? They have their own fucking server for crying out loud, why do they have to be a cancer on everyone elses? I suppose one could say... ..."his life was for 'ire.'" + Show Spoiler +Heh? No? Okay....
Good effort Clan. His post seems to really underestimate the Russian gaming community, beyond the blatant disregard for its people shown in the post.
The quote from his profile is oddly fitting I think, "Stupid questions are better than stupid mistakes."
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On January 09 2013 09:47 dAPhREAk wrote:ban: Show nested quote +decado90 was just temp banned for 2 days by Myles.
That account was created on 2012-12-07 08:47:13 and had 390 posts.
Reason: You were just warned for poor posting and now you post this gem? You can express your distaste for EG without shitting all over them. And you have no idea what JD's personal motivations are. post that relates to ban: Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players. Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong. Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year. post he got warned for: Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 06:16 decado90 wrote:
Of course esports isn't a sport. Sitting down playing a video game with no athleticism at all, with a talent pool that is microscopic, compared to real sports.
User was warned for this post confused.....
The funniest part about that was that it wasn't AT ALL what I was trying to say :D The guy just basically took a huge dump on EG for no apparent reason.....
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On January 10 2013 00:33 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 09:47 dAPhREAk wrote:ban: decado90 was just temp banned for 2 days by Myles.
That account was created on 2012-12-07 08:47:13 and had 390 posts.
Reason: You were just warned for poor posting and now you post this gem? You can express your distaste for EG without shitting all over them. And you have no idea what JD's personal motivations are. post that relates to ban: On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players. Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong. Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year. post he got wadrned for: On January 09 2013 06:16 decado90 wrote:
Of course esports isn't a sport. Sitting down playing a video game with no athleticism at all, with a talent pool that is microscopic, compared to real sports.
User was warned for this post confused..... The funniest part about that was that it wasn't AT ALL what I was trying to say :D The guy just basically took a huge dump on EG for no apparent reason.....
Potential reasons are quite apparent actually:
- Die-hard JaeDong fan who cannot cope with the fact that JaeDong isn't on top anymore and has to blame it on things (denial)
- Serious believer of the EG curse that doesn't want to see JaeDong's career ruined
- Simply a hardcore EG anti-fan
Pick one or more of the above.
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On January 10 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 00:33 Grovbolle wrote:On January 09 2013 09:47 dAPhREAk wrote:ban: decado90 was just temp banned for 2 days by Myles.
That account was created on 2012-12-07 08:47:13 and had 390 posts.
Reason: You were just warned for poor posting and now you post this gem? You can express your distaste for EG without shitting all over them. And you have no idea what JD's personal motivations are. post that relates to ban: On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players. Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong. Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year. post he got wadrned for: On January 09 2013 06:16 decado90 wrote:
Of course esports isn't a sport. Sitting down playing a video game with no athleticism at all, with a talent pool that is microscopic, compared to real sports.
User was warned for this post confused..... The funniest part about that was that it wasn't AT ALL what I was trying to say :D The guy just basically took a huge dump on EG for no apparent reason..... Potential reasons are quite apparent actually: - Die-hard JaeDong fan who cannot cope with the fact that JaeDong isn't on top anymore and has to blame it on things (denial) - Serious believer of the EG curse that doesn't want to see JaeDong's career ruined - Simply a hardcore EG anti-fan Pick one or more of the above.
I am going with the latter two, account seems too new for an absolutely hardcore JD fan. It doesn't explain the post he got a warning for but per Myles there was a history of rather unhelpful posting.
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On January 09 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:Neversummer easily over Kliedxl. That guy was glorious. To encourage you all to vote for neversummer I am going to declassify a few gems he sent me (unless some admins think that PMs sent to me are presumed privileged and want to edit all this out). Fortunately a lot of this was already made public by him when complaining about me but it's still nice to put it all in one place. + Show Spoiler +Original Message From neversummer:
Homophobia? I said gay men should not lead boy scout troops. That qualifies as homophobia? Are you an omnipresent being who is capable of deciphering the motives, rationale and reasoning for the thoughts and opinions of others? How can you possibly determine, with absolute certainty, that I am homophobic merely for that opinion?
Secondly, you ASSUME I am implying something? Is that a fucking joke? You're banning people for what they're implying, even when they're not implying anything at all? Holy shit dude, get some fucking perspective. If you are a gay man, that's fine, but don't abuse your privilege as a mod on these forums to pursue your own pro-gay agenda.
My so-called "mod-history" is two temp bans from GMarshal for similar reasons; people abusing mod privileges to ban people whose opinions are not congruent with their own. Unbelievable man. Who do I contact for personal complaints Original Message From KwarK:
We have a website feedback forum which we use for website feedback. If you'd like to give any website feedback then I recommend you take it to the website feedback forum. It can be found at the bottom of the left sidebar where the word website is followed by the word feedback. If you continue to have problems finding it then please let me know.
If you are still angry about the ban and wish to do something about it immediately then you could write us a letter. Just put whatever words you think are pertinent on a piece of paper and then put it in a mailbox. Original Message From neversummer:
Is that some sort of joke? Your sense of humor eludes me.
Anyway I'd appreciate it if you actually answered my message and acknowledged my rebuttal, as per your responsibility as moderator. You have banned me, and I have refuted your rationale for doing so. You have not answered my rebuttal, you have not addressed it and instead you've made a sore attempt at a joke. Original Message From KwarK:
I'm not sure you understand how this works. I wasn't laying down a challenge for a competition at arguing on the internet and I have absolutely no interest in engaging with you in one. I just banned you, that's pretty much it for my involvement in the matter. Original Message From neversummer:
I'm not quite certain you understand how this works. I've contacted another moderator, who has instructed me in order to lift my ban I must present a case for rebuttal, whereby if said case is accepted the ban will be lifted.
Accordingly I have submitted my rebuttal to you, with every ounce of civility I can muster, and you respond by disregarding my rebuttal and personally insulting me by both questioning my intelligence and belittling my original response.
Once again I'd appreciate some transparency in moderation; could you please respond to my rebuttal and offer reasons why my ban should remain in place? Original Message From KwarK:
Okay, consider your case read and dismissed. If you feel you've been treated unfairly by the process then we have a website feedback forum. Original Message From neversummer:
You've fucked with the wrong person. Original Message From neversummer:See you in two weeks
Well-played KwarK, well-played.
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On January 10 2013 01:43 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:Neversummer easily over Kliedxl. That guy was glorious. To encourage you all to vote for neversummer I am going to declassify a few gems he sent me (unless some admins think that PMs sent to me are presumed privileged and want to edit all this out). Fortunately a lot of this was already made public by him when complaining about me but it's still nice to put it all in one place. + Show Spoiler +Original Message From neversummer:
Homophobia? I said gay men should not lead boy scout troops. That qualifies as homophobia? Are you an omnipresent being who is capable of deciphering the motives, rationale and reasoning for the thoughts and opinions of others? How can you possibly determine, with absolute certainty, that I am homophobic merely for that opinion?
Secondly, you ASSUME I am implying something? Is that a fucking joke? You're banning people for what they're implying, even when they're not implying anything at all? Holy shit dude, get some fucking perspective. If you are a gay man, that's fine, but don't abuse your privilege as a mod on these forums to pursue your own pro-gay agenda.
My so-called "mod-history" is two temp bans from GMarshal for similar reasons; people abusing mod privileges to ban people whose opinions are not congruent with their own. Unbelievable man. Who do I contact for personal complaints Original Message From KwarK:
We have a website feedback forum which we use for website feedback. If you'd like to give any website feedback then I recommend you take it to the website feedback forum. It can be found at the bottom of the left sidebar where the word website is followed by the word feedback. If you continue to have problems finding it then please let me know.
If you are still angry about the ban and wish to do something about it immediately then you could write us a letter. Just put whatever words you think are pertinent on a piece of paper and then put it in a mailbox. Original Message From neversummer:
Is that some sort of joke? Your sense of humor eludes me.
Anyway I'd appreciate it if you actually answered my message and acknowledged my rebuttal, as per your responsibility as moderator. You have banned me, and I have refuted your rationale for doing so. You have not answered my rebuttal, you have not addressed it and instead you've made a sore attempt at a joke. Original Message From KwarK:
I'm not sure you understand how this works. I wasn't laying down a challenge for a competition at arguing on the internet and I have absolutely no interest in engaging with you in one. I just banned you, that's pretty much it for my involvement in the matter. Original Message From neversummer:
I'm not quite certain you understand how this works. I've contacted another moderator, who has instructed me in order to lift my ban I must present a case for rebuttal, whereby if said case is accepted the ban will be lifted.
Accordingly I have submitted my rebuttal to you, with every ounce of civility I can muster, and you respond by disregarding my rebuttal and personally insulting me by both questioning my intelligence and belittling my original response.
Once again I'd appreciate some transparency in moderation; could you please respond to my rebuttal and offer reasons why my ban should remain in place? Original Message From KwarK:
Okay, consider your case read and dismissed. If you feel you've been treated unfairly by the process then we have a website feedback forum. Original Message From neversummer:
You've fucked with the wrong person. Original Message From neversummer:See you in two weeks Well-played KwarK, well-played.
On the one hand I want to say KwarK is attempting to tamper with the voting machines but these are too good. Please keep them coming.
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On January 10 2013 01:51 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 01:43 mordek wrote:On January 09 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:Neversummer easily over Kliedxl. That guy was glorious. To encourage you all to vote for neversummer I am going to declassify a few gems he sent me (unless some admins think that PMs sent to me are presumed privileged and want to edit all this out). Fortunately a lot of this was already made public by him when complaining about me but it's still nice to put it all in one place. + Show Spoiler +Original Message From neversummer:
Homophobia? I said gay men should not lead boy scout troops. That qualifies as homophobia? Are you an omnipresent being who is capable of deciphering the motives, rationale and reasoning for the thoughts and opinions of others? How can you possibly determine, with absolute certainty, that I am homophobic merely for that opinion?
Secondly, you ASSUME I am implying something? Is that a fucking joke? You're banning people for what they're implying, even when they're not implying anything at all? Holy shit dude, get some fucking perspective. If you are a gay man, that's fine, but don't abuse your privilege as a mod on these forums to pursue your own pro-gay agenda.
My so-called "mod-history" is two temp bans from GMarshal for similar reasons; people abusing mod privileges to ban people whose opinions are not congruent with their own. Unbelievable man. Who do I contact for personal complaints Original Message From KwarK:
We have a website feedback forum which we use for website feedback. If you'd like to give any website feedback then I recommend you take it to the website feedback forum. It can be found at the bottom of the left sidebar where the word website is followed by the word feedback. If you continue to have problems finding it then please let me know.
If you are still angry about the ban and wish to do something about it immediately then you could write us a letter. Just put whatever words you think are pertinent on a piece of paper and then put it in a mailbox. Original Message From neversummer:
Is that some sort of joke? Your sense of humor eludes me.
Anyway I'd appreciate it if you actually answered my message and acknowledged my rebuttal, as per your responsibility as moderator. You have banned me, and I have refuted your rationale for doing so. You have not answered my rebuttal, you have not addressed it and instead you've made a sore attempt at a joke. Original Message From KwarK:
I'm not sure you understand how this works. I wasn't laying down a challenge for a competition at arguing on the internet and I have absolutely no interest in engaging with you in one. I just banned you, that's pretty much it for my involvement in the matter. Original Message From neversummer:
I'm not quite certain you understand how this works. I've contacted another moderator, who has instructed me in order to lift my ban I must present a case for rebuttal, whereby if said case is accepted the ban will be lifted.
Accordingly I have submitted my rebuttal to you, with every ounce of civility I can muster, and you respond by disregarding my rebuttal and personally insulting me by both questioning my intelligence and belittling my original response.
Once again I'd appreciate some transparency in moderation; could you please respond to my rebuttal and offer reasons why my ban should remain in place? Original Message From KwarK:
Okay, consider your case read and dismissed. If you feel you've been treated unfairly by the process then we have a website feedback forum. Original Message From neversummer:
You've fucked with the wrong person. Original Message From neversummer:See you in two weeks Well-played KwarK, well-played. On the one hand I want to say KwarK is attempting to tamper with the voting machines but these are too good. Please keep them coming.
My sentiments exactly. As long as the hilarity continues you'll hear no protest from me.
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On January 10 2013 01:51 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 01:43 mordek wrote:On January 09 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:Neversummer easily over Kliedxl. That guy was glorious. To encourage you all to vote for neversummer I am going to declassify a few gems he sent me (unless some admins think that PMs sent to me are presumed privileged and want to edit all this out). Fortunately a lot of this was already made public by him when complaining about me but it's still nice to put it all in one place. + Show Spoiler +Original Message From neversummer:
Homophobia? I said gay men should not lead boy scout troops. That qualifies as homophobia? Are you an omnipresent being who is capable of deciphering the motives, rationale and reasoning for the thoughts and opinions of others? How can you possibly determine, with absolute certainty, that I am homophobic merely for that opinion?
Secondly, you ASSUME I am implying something? Is that a fucking joke? You're banning people for what they're implying, even when they're not implying anything at all? Holy shit dude, get some fucking perspective. If you are a gay man, that's fine, but don't abuse your privilege as a mod on these forums to pursue your own pro-gay agenda.
My so-called "mod-history" is two temp bans from GMarshal for similar reasons; people abusing mod privileges to ban people whose opinions are not congruent with their own. Unbelievable man. Who do I contact for personal complaints Original Message From KwarK:
We have a website feedback forum which we use for website feedback. If you'd like to give any website feedback then I recommend you take it to the website feedback forum. It can be found at the bottom of the left sidebar where the word website is followed by the word feedback. If you continue to have problems finding it then please let me know.
If you are still angry about the ban and wish to do something about it immediately then you could write us a letter. Just put whatever words you think are pertinent on a piece of paper and then put it in a mailbox. Original Message From neversummer:
Is that some sort of joke? Your sense of humor eludes me.
Anyway I'd appreciate it if you actually answered my message and acknowledged my rebuttal, as per your responsibility as moderator. You have banned me, and I have refuted your rationale for doing so. You have not answered my rebuttal, you have not addressed it and instead you've made a sore attempt at a joke. Original Message From KwarK:
I'm not sure you understand how this works. I wasn't laying down a challenge for a competition at arguing on the internet and I have absolutely no interest in engaging with you in one. I just banned you, that's pretty much it for my involvement in the matter. Original Message From neversummer:
I'm not quite certain you understand how this works. I've contacted another moderator, who has instructed me in order to lift my ban I must present a case for rebuttal, whereby if said case is accepted the ban will be lifted.
Accordingly I have submitted my rebuttal to you, with every ounce of civility I can muster, and you respond by disregarding my rebuttal and personally insulting me by both questioning my intelligence and belittling my original response.
Once again I'd appreciate some transparency in moderation; could you please respond to my rebuttal and offer reasons why my ban should remain in place? Original Message From KwarK:
Okay, consider your case read and dismissed. If you feel you've been treated unfairly by the process then we have a website feedback forum. Original Message From neversummer:
You've fucked with the wrong person. Original Message From neversummer:See you in two weeks Well-played KwarK, well-played. On the one hand I want to say KwarK is attempting to tamper with the voting machines but these are too good. Please keep them coming.
It's not like there is any contest anyways, neversummer is a clear winner already 
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On January 10 2013 02:33 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 01:51 ThomasjServo wrote:On January 10 2013 01:43 mordek wrote:On January 09 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:Neversummer easily over Kliedxl. That guy was glorious. To encourage you all to vote for neversummer I am going to declassify a few gems he sent me (unless some admins think that PMs sent to me are presumed privileged and want to edit all this out). Fortunately a lot of this was already made public by him when complaining about me but it's still nice to put it all in one place. + Show Spoiler +Original Message From neversummer:
Homophobia? I said gay men should not lead boy scout troops. That qualifies as homophobia? Are you an omnipresent being who is capable of deciphering the motives, rationale and reasoning for the thoughts and opinions of others? How can you possibly determine, with absolute certainty, that I am homophobic merely for that opinion?
Secondly, you ASSUME I am implying something? Is that a fucking joke? You're banning people for what they're implying, even when they're not implying anything at all? Holy shit dude, get some fucking perspective. If you are a gay man, that's fine, but don't abuse your privilege as a mod on these forums to pursue your own pro-gay agenda.
My so-called "mod-history" is two temp bans from GMarshal for similar reasons; people abusing mod privileges to ban people whose opinions are not congruent with their own. Unbelievable man. Who do I contact for personal complaints Original Message From KwarK:
We have a website feedback forum which we use for website feedback. If you'd like to give any website feedback then I recommend you take it to the website feedback forum. It can be found at the bottom of the left sidebar where the word website is followed by the word feedback. If you continue to have problems finding it then please let me know.
If you are still angry about the ban and wish to do something about it immediately then you could write us a letter. Just put whatever words you think are pertinent on a piece of paper and then put it in a mailbox. Original Message From neversummer:
Is that some sort of joke? Your sense of humor eludes me.
Anyway I'd appreciate it if you actually answered my message and acknowledged my rebuttal, as per your responsibility as moderator. You have banned me, and I have refuted your rationale for doing so. You have not answered my rebuttal, you have not addressed it and instead you've made a sore attempt at a joke. Original Message From KwarK:
I'm not sure you understand how this works. I wasn't laying down a challenge for a competition at arguing on the internet and I have absolutely no interest in engaging with you in one. I just banned you, that's pretty much it for my involvement in the matter. Original Message From neversummer:
I'm not quite certain you understand how this works. I've contacted another moderator, who has instructed me in order to lift my ban I must present a case for rebuttal, whereby if said case is accepted the ban will be lifted.
Accordingly I have submitted my rebuttal to you, with every ounce of civility I can muster, and you respond by disregarding my rebuttal and personally insulting me by both questioning my intelligence and belittling my original response.
Once again I'd appreciate some transparency in moderation; could you please respond to my rebuttal and offer reasons why my ban should remain in place? Original Message From KwarK:
Okay, consider your case read and dismissed. If you feel you've been treated unfairly by the process then we have a website feedback forum. Original Message From neversummer:
You've fucked with the wrong person. Original Message From neversummer:See you in two weeks Well-played KwarK, well-played. On the one hand I want to say KwarK is attempting to tamper with the voting machines but these are too good. Please keep them coming. It's not like there is any contest anyways, neversummer is a clear winner already
I predict jd will use what is left of his ~2,000 remaining accounts to rig the election in his favor, regardless of all of our honest intentions.
You guys are starting to convince me to vote for neversummer more and more, though. Blast you, KwarK. X-o
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On January 10 2013 03:21 cLAN.Anax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 02:33 Cokefreak wrote:On January 10 2013 01:51 ThomasjServo wrote:On January 10 2013 01:43 mordek wrote:On January 09 2013 05:19 KwarK wrote:Neversummer easily over Kliedxl. That guy was glorious. To encourage you all to vote for neversummer I am going to declassify a few gems he sent me (unless some admins think that PMs sent to me are presumed privileged and want to edit all this out). Fortunately a lot of this was already made public by him when complaining about me but it's still nice to put it all in one place. + Show Spoiler +Original Message From neversummer:
Homophobia? I said gay men should not lead boy scout troops. That qualifies as homophobia? Are you an omnipresent being who is capable of deciphering the motives, rationale and reasoning for the thoughts and opinions of others? How can you possibly determine, with absolute certainty, that I am homophobic merely for that opinion?
Secondly, you ASSUME I am implying something? Is that a fucking joke? You're banning people for what they're implying, even when they're not implying anything at all? Holy shit dude, get some fucking perspective. If you are a gay man, that's fine, but don't abuse your privilege as a mod on these forums to pursue your own pro-gay agenda.
My so-called "mod-history" is two temp bans from GMarshal for similar reasons; people abusing mod privileges to ban people whose opinions are not congruent with their own. Unbelievable man. Who do I contact for personal complaints Original Message From KwarK:
We have a website feedback forum which we use for website feedback. If you'd like to give any website feedback then I recommend you take it to the website feedback forum. It can be found at the bottom of the left sidebar where the word website is followed by the word feedback. If you continue to have problems finding it then please let me know.
If you are still angry about the ban and wish to do something about it immediately then you could write us a letter. Just put whatever words you think are pertinent on a piece of paper and then put it in a mailbox. Original Message From neversummer:
Is that some sort of joke? Your sense of humor eludes me.
Anyway I'd appreciate it if you actually answered my message and acknowledged my rebuttal, as per your responsibility as moderator. You have banned me, and I have refuted your rationale for doing so. You have not answered my rebuttal, you have not addressed it and instead you've made a sore attempt at a joke. Original Message From KwarK:
I'm not sure you understand how this works. I wasn't laying down a challenge for a competition at arguing on the internet and I have absolutely no interest in engaging with you in one. I just banned you, that's pretty much it for my involvement in the matter. Original Message From neversummer:
I'm not quite certain you understand how this works. I've contacted another moderator, who has instructed me in order to lift my ban I must present a case for rebuttal, whereby if said case is accepted the ban will be lifted.
Accordingly I have submitted my rebuttal to you, with every ounce of civility I can muster, and you respond by disregarding my rebuttal and personally insulting me by both questioning my intelligence and belittling my original response.
Once again I'd appreciate some transparency in moderation; could you please respond to my rebuttal and offer reasons why my ban should remain in place? Original Message From KwarK:
Okay, consider your case read and dismissed. If you feel you've been treated unfairly by the process then we have a website feedback forum. Original Message From neversummer:
You've fucked with the wrong person. Original Message From neversummer:See you in two weeks Well-played KwarK, well-played. On the one hand I want to say KwarK is attempting to tamper with the voting machines but these are too good. Please keep them coming. It's not like there is any contest anyways, neversummer is a clear winner already I predict jd will use what is left of his ~2,000 remaining accounts to rig the election in his favor, regardless of all of our honest intentions. You guys are starting to convince me to vote for neversummer more and more, though. Blast you, KwarK. X-o
Nah, jd is ecstatic, because KwarK is showing his hand by drawing attention to a different ban to aid the cover-up of the jd conspiracy.
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On January 09 2013 23:37 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 23:35 Archas wrote:On January 09 2013 23:27 TL.net Bot wrote:Zealos was just t emp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB. That account was created on 2011-11-07 22:30:03 and had 1462 posts. Reason: QQing in that thread is fine, calling russians a cancer on everyone goes a little too far. Do russian people get educations? Can they not locate themselves on a map? They have their own fucking server for crying out loud, why do they have to be a cancer on everyone elses? I guess you could say... ... he was a little overZealos. Context? I see it's from the DotA 2 designated waah waah thread but other than that not sure... :/ Also: good one. 8D
There is no context. The Russian hate in the Dota 2 forums can get out of hand some times.
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