The Automated Ban List - Page 1600

Come on. I wasn't insisting it would work; I was just offering one particular suggestion and asking why it wouldn't work. So far only one or two people have given a valid reason (which turns out to be more of a "maybe" than a knock-down argument).

I have no intention of responding point-by-point to every insulting post in the thread. In fact, this will probably be my last post. But just as an example of a general trend we're seeing, I'd like to demonstrate that you don't give a single valid reason why the build wouldn't work, and there's nothing to your post but content-free posturing and browbeating intimidation tactics.

We're not talking about attacking stimmed marines, but units with relatively low DPS, or rate of fire in the case of immortals. And they're still faster than sentries even without speed. And as has observed by another commenter, even A-move with banes and lings (without the follow-up with roaches) has been known to work against fairly good players.

No. Dumb argument. Roach/ling isn't just cost inefficient, but massively cost inefficient against a well-microed sentry-immortal. And generally speaking if Toss loses all his sentries or force field energy then the push fails. And a simple bit of arithmetic suggests that Zerg can afford banelings + zerglings + a good amount of roaches for the same cost in worker production (i.e. converting the excess gas to minerals) as teching to spire and getting mutas.

By that logic, mutas would be a no-go. And that puts you in opposition with every Code S and grandmaster Zerg who seriously entertains mutas as a counter.

For which you give no argument. It stands to reason that if force fields tend to increase the cost effectiveness of an army (and they most definitely do), then they have a value in resources in any particular battle. Maybe banes are worth the trade; who knows? You don't give any reason why not. You don't give any arithmetic or even claim to have done the experiment.

I happily defer to the experience of anyone who has actually tried the strategy of using bane/ling to deplete sentry energy and following up with roach/ling to finish the job. That's very different from being put off by armchair theorists who browbeatingly pound their fists on the coffee table whenever someone doesn't appear to be fully convinced.