EPTCSL presents Azubu Collegiate Champions - Page 10
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
What's the point to a regular season when you're gonna be playing the same guys whether you're the first seed or the 4th? And 7 unique players right before finals and into winter break? How the hell are coordinators supposed to find people to play. | ||
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xmShake
United States1100 Posts
On December 05 2012 05:01 T.O.P. wrote: Once again. No fixes to unbalanced scheduling. What's the point to a regular season when you're gonna be playing the same guys whether you're the first seed or the 4th? And 7 unique players right before finals and into winter break? How the hell are coordinators supposed to find people to play. Agree completely. This playoff bracket and timing is complete bullshit. The seeding is just plain messed up for a multitude of reasons. Because the majority of teams still get into playoffs, it makes the regular season completely pointless for the most part as only the absolute worst of teams (probably can't field a full lineup of competitive players, or possibly inactive), get culled. This still leaves many schools who clearly don't deserve to be in the playoffs in there, and provides no tension as almost all the major schools with good teams get in with no threat of elimination early. Another problem is that playoffs seem to be an extension of the regular season for the most part, when schools of your division are going to meet you if they get at least as far as you do in your position of the brackets. It's not that fun to play against the schools you already competed against during the regular season, and because it seems that there is no regional distinction to where divisions are placed in the brackets, you can't even determine major regional champions if you wanted this way. The currently implemented seeding also makes finishing first or barely qualifying largely irrelevant as you end up playing most of the schools in your division if they perform as well as your own. Playoffs also seem to be completely unequal with respect to schools which run on the quarter system, as it begins directly during finals and continues on through Winter break, both times which make it extremely difficult for players to showup, much less practice for their matches so they can put on good games. Combined with the bo7 straight from the beginning (a departure from last season), it's going to make it very tough for coordinators to put a lineup that show's their school's best. I can imagine even fielding ANY lineup to be an impossible task for smaller schools with not as many players during this time frame. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On December 04 2012 19:37 Novice wrote: I have a question! *raises hand then speaks freely* Can someone please explain to me how the playoff brackets were decided? Because looking at them it doesn't appear as though any thought went into making them, and here's why I think that! Here is our division, #1 seed Berkeley, #2 SFSU, #3 Nebraska Lincoln, #4 Cal Poly Our opponents, Division Blue 12 #1 North Dakota, #2 Manitoba, #3 Saskatchewon, #4 Rowan So shouldnt it be, UCB vs Rowan, SFSU vs Saskatchewon, Nebraska Lincoln vs Manitoba, and Cal Poly vs North Dakota?? Instead they have UCB (1) vs Saskatchewon (3), SFSU (2) vs Manitoba (2), Cal Poly (4) vs Rowan (4), and Nebraska-Lincoln (3) vs North Dakota (1) Not only do our opponents not make sense, but they have UCB and SFSU, if both beat their first round opponents, playing against each other in the very next round. What is the point of the season and getting the top 4 from each division, if you're just going to make them play each other all over again in the second round? UCB and SFSU literally just played each other the very last week of the season, so you're going to have them possibly play each other again on the first week of playoffs, now how does that make sense? I was to understand that seeding in brackets was to put the higher seed vs lower seed to reward teams for their efforts/work during the season, but it seems like they randomly picked two divisions, threw them together and THEN they put them all next to each other so that if two teams from the same division make it out of the first round that they'll just play each other again, basically a rematch from the season. Smh man, smh..... Thanks for your post, but some of your information is incorrect. There is a bug with statistics not being recorded accurately on the site. We have our own list by hand. The standings for your divisions are: 1. Berkeley 2. SF State 3. Pomona 4. Nebraska-Lincoln 1. North Dakota 2. Rowan 3. Manitoba 4. Saskatchewan The matchups are all fine. I will look into the placing of the matchups today and see if we can change things around to make it more equitable. Thanks! | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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syncopate
United States70 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Homework
United States283 Posts
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Fabled
United States14 Posts
"Here’s the reality: the Azubu Collegiate Champions will be a gauntlet for all teams. Playtime will last 2-3 hours in the regular season, and due to our schedule and limited time, we will play through holidays and exam periods. All teams and players should account for this and set aside time for matches or reschedule ahead of time. Teams who advance must confirm that they are able to come to the live finals on February 2-3, 2013." I am not saying I agree with this, but they did warn us... | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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KingDime
Canada750 Posts
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Fabled
United States14 Posts
There was a lack of information though, I know some teams that had trouble submitting line-ups because they were unsure when they had to submit it. (Azubu Collegiate Championship did tell us however when they wanted line-ups: "Lineups are due earlier than in the previous season, giving teams more time to prepare for opponents. Saturday matches will be due Monday and Sunday matches due Tuesday.") Maybe the website should have posted their information better.... And their website is worst than their old one  | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On December 05 2012 12:44 KingDime wrote: Yes, but the problem was the extreme delays made organizing very difficult. Also, the terrible website has made this entire season annoying at every turn. There was only a 1 week delay and that was due to the hurricane... Also about the playoffs: there's nothing wrong with the actual matchups. We are going to re-adjust the order to make it so division teams won't play each other until later in the bracket, however. We know about the website errors, and as I've said before, we're working hard on getting them fixed while still adding all the necessary features to the site. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Proficient
United States16 Posts
On December 05 2012 19:26 Xeris wrote: Just re-did the bracket after taking some community suggestions. Now, same-division teams will avoid each other for a few rounds. <3 Just saw the updated bracket! Great job Xeris!! This looks much better :D | ||
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KarneEspada
United States72 Posts
On December 05 2012 19:26 Xeris wrote: Just re-did the bracket after taking some community suggestions. Now, same-division teams will avoid each other for a few rounds. <3 Thanks! UCI fighting! CSL fighting! | ||
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Novice
United States115 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
A&M Fighting! Edit: Xeris, are we supposed to be able to access replays for opponents? It seems like the functionality is there, but some links are broken, and others that let you download replays seem to be blocked by some administrator or something (says I don't have authority to view) Double edit: I can launch it from replay within SC2, but not from just my folders in windows explorer. Weird. | ||
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