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inn5013orecl
United States227 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:06 Phoenix_ wrote: Korean progamers are known to be the best in starcraft, will the universities live to that standard? TLDR: No P.S. Go Merrica Fud Yeah! | ||
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Phoenix_
United States37 Posts
On September 26 2012 13:56 SniXSniPe wrote: ib4 we get all of the complexity players to join the University of Houston CSL team Scumbag snixsnipe: joins complexity academy, forgets his friends and teammates | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On September 26 2012 20:56 Laffs wrote: Maybe it should be mandatory that all participating players (at least in the RO16) are not failing their program. I think this is done for major varsity sports like football and it would almost completely negate the possibility of a bunch pro gamers (specifically coL as so many people are suggesting haha) enrolling as full-time students, never going to school or studying, and raking in $40k. I'd be down for that as long as CSL players get the same academic treatment as varsity players... ie. Free textbooks paid and delivered, free tutors who do your homework, free cheat sheets prior to exams, free copies of past exams... there's more too lol. | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
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binski
United States225 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Laffs
Canada25 Posts
On September 27 2012 14:19 SupLilSon wrote: I'd be down for that as long as CSL players get the same academic treatment as varsity players... ie. Free textbooks paid and delivered, free tutors who do your homework, free cheat sheets prior to exams, free copies of past exams... there's more too lol. Not all varsity teams get that.. only football and hockey here. and they definitely do not get "cheat sheets" unless they allow them for all students in that course. Unless someone can think of another way to objectively decide who is a student and who just signed up for bullshit classes with no intention of going or studying just so they can win a slice of the $91,000 then alright, but I certainly cant. | ||
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Phoenix_
United States37 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/10kxxa/looking_for_starcraft_players_at_my/ There are lots of schools already posting in the thread, so keep a watch on it | ||
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Velociraptor95
United States50 Posts
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Phoenix_
United States37 Posts
On September 28 2012 07:05 Velociraptor95 wrote: Oh yes! Can't wait for freshman year next fall! To the CSL! For now, there's still the High School Starleague for you http://www.hsstarleague.com/ | ||
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carrott
Singapore1 Post
I have some questions regarding the eligibility though. The university students in my clan (team Eve) are hoping to take part in this league together. however, we come from different universities in Singapore. (Singapore only has 4 state universities). The scene down here is not that huge and it's difficult to find sufficient players from the same university. We're hoping for some leeway for us to take part in this league together there're only 3-4 main sc2 clans in singapore currently, and most of the good university players are in this clan. havent took part in csl before so i'm not sure if there's any skill requirement. most of us are gm on sea server and masters on na server. yep. hope to take part in this. do pm me if need to! thanks | ||
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Phoenix_
United States37 Posts
On September 28 2012 16:25 carrott wrote: hey. this upcoming CSL looks like it's going to be a blast! I have some questions regarding the eligibility though. The university students in my clan (team Eve) are hoping to take part in this league together. however, we come from different universities in Singapore. (Singapore only has 4 state universities). The scene down here is not that huge and it's difficult to find sufficient players from the same university. We're hoping for some leeway for us to take part in this league together there're only 3-4 main sc2 clans in singapore currently, and most of the good university players are in this clan. havent took part in csl before so i'm not sure if there's any skill requirement. most of us are gm on sea server and masters on na server. yep. hope to take part in this. do pm me if need to! thanks There is no skill requirement, we have players who are extremely competitive as well as extremely casual. In regards to your team, generally teams are only made up of players from the same school except under certain circumstances, as listed under the eligibility section of the post. | ||
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Imagine42
United States73 Posts
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ParkwayDrive
United States328 Posts
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
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Dawsmonkee
United Kingdom31 Posts
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clm100
United States18 Posts
These comments drive at a fundamental question about the CSL: what is it? The varying responses indicate clearly different perceptions of what the league is, who its members are, and what its goals should be. Some (based on comments I'd guess Benji, reslived, Yossarian, and Bayani?) seem to be focused on the collegiate, community aspect. For them the CSL is an organization that provides structure for their school's clubs. The league is a vehicle for them to compete in, and the most important thing is that it functions smoothly and efficiently from a club's point of view. Can we register on time? Is the schedule accommodating? Does my group enjoy it? Their goal is to create the best experience for students interested in Starcraft at their school. The other group (I'd guess Invagination, Mona, AlphaFerg, and Laffs) seem to care about CSL as a league. They like prize pools, casters, big finals, TL and reddit coverage. For them these changes are fantastic - big sponsors, a huge prize pool, and more centralized casting will definitely make CSL more like GSL. They're focused on creating the best team league they can. The original season 6 announcement straddled this line. Division 1 was what the League group was really interested in - better players, more professional, more focused. Division 2 was more a community thing, and enjoyed support from the community minded folks, especially at very large and very small schools that either couldn't field a D1 team, or could field both D1 and D2 teams. The Azubu sponsorship changes all this. The community aspect has suffered significantly. The promise of supporting teams (financially, I assume?) is great, and that's a real opportunity the Azubu sponsorship provides (anyone who needed financing to go to the LANs last year would agree). However the prize pool, delays, changes, and issues. Those of us in the CSL community who are complaining care enough to be here. It's not that we don't appreciate the hard work the entire admin team is doing. It's that we seem to disagree with them about the implicit vision for CSL. Unfortunately the goals are implicit. CSL admins haven't stated what they would like it to be, and it's diverse membership hasn't been asked (or provided a unified voice). Perhaps this does suggest CSL is not the right league for all teams (shit, did I just say a troll was right and we SHOULD leave?). Regardless, it suggests that there is a clear and deep divide in vision and that we should attempt to reconcile it or expect more loud disagreement. | ||
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
I actually think that a Div 1 and Div 2 system should exist in the future, which registration fees for Division 1 no matter what sponsorships exist. With registration fee comes commitment from teams, an incentive to fund raise, reasons to grab sponsorships, and more opportunity to put money into supporting teams across the country. Unsure if it will come back in the future, but it's something I'd like to see. Things had to be changed for the event so we can get things started smoothly leading up to the finals. A lot of people just play in CSL because it provides the structure and reason to have schools compete against one another in SC2. Some people care about prize pools, some people don't, but its important to accommodate both and get as many people playing as possible. However, an issue we were seeing with Div 1 and Div 2 was where to place mid tier teams who wanted to play in Div 1 for the experience but still considered themselves "recreational". I think we'll learn a lot about how to manage a variety of college SC2 teams in the league when we play through this season and the event. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
As Shindigs stated, the "Division 2" idea is something we plan on revisiting. It's a complicated subject. It is something that we at the CSL have been straddling with ever since the beginning. We put out feedback after each season asking the question: "would you like two separate leagues." Every season the answer was mostly "no." This season, the feedback was mixed, so we initially announced the creation of a Division 2. While we did move away from that for now, it is something that we will implement in the future. However, for our short-term goals, we felt it necessary to have one large, unified league. This is important to us for a variety of reasons: one of which being the scale at which we are operating is increasing drastically. Before we attempt to revamp the format entirely and really open the league up to an even broader audience of casual gamers who are likely not participating in the league due to skill perceptions, we want to make sure that we are able to put out the best possible product we can with the staff we have available. This season is going to test us and push us all to our administrative/organizational limits. We felt that the introduction of a "Division 2" at this time would cause more of a strain on our staff because it represents such a big change. However, as I said before, this idea is something that will happen. We want to give every college gamer what they want, and have the CSL be a place where anyone can compete as much or as little as they choose. Over the next 6-7 months we will be rolling out significant changes to our website that will reflect this, and we are confident everyone will enjoy them quite a bit. As you all may have noticed, we are in the process of a complete re-design, which is another reason implementing such a drastic format change now is not possible. So again, I really do understand and appreciate your concerns! All of us at the CSL staff are very aware of the desire of our more casual audience and rest assured, we'll be adding more to accommodate you all in the near future. <3! Duran | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
Hmm as I wrote this some teams popped up on the list again, albeit many fewer than were up before. Do we need to reregister the teams? | ||
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