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Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 08 2012 14:32 GMT
#121
On January 08 2012 12:03 Troxle wrote:
So this will be open to all players? Could a semi pro tean form specifically for this type of tournament? No sponsors or anything just like a clan tag to signify some team unity. I know you say this is a bit off in the distance so there is time to practice. I know a few people in the South who would play, though they don't use TL for anything other than watching streams so I'd be informing them directly. Sounds like a great way for players to get their name out there and open the game to a wider number of people!


All players except for contracted pros, so no Idra or QXC or Naniwa to worry about. It's a way to get your name out, a "best of the unknowns" if you were. So technically, yes, you could form your own semi-pro team with tag and all.

On January 08 2012 16:28 ePLocust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 11:30 Drogith wrote:
On January 08 2012 11:28 ePLocust wrote:
On January 07 2012 14:29 Drogith wrote:
On January 07 2012 12:31 ePLocust wrote:
Hey I'm running the New York National Star League team I would be willing to help put the US NE team together if there isn't anyone else doing it.

Edit;
If you want to contact me you can e-mail me @ locustsstarcraft@gmail.com, pm me here or add me on skype : grlundahl

Psst. This isn't a team league.
Your not the first to make that mistake either. I guess, do to the relatively close posting times for both the NSL and the SPGL you can mix up the two. But we are two separate entities.

NSL- teams with everyone involved
SPGL- individual with no pros


oh okay. now that I've read your reddit post seems like I'm not needed.

No, you're still needed. Gotta keep Boyo training hard. Go Team Epidemic!


Well there's that but I meant specifically help with the league:p

Besides the jobs I have listed, if you have any other skills that can help: website development, graphics, etc... and want to help out, then I'd be glad to see what you have to offer.
Founder of the New England SC2 League
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 15:08:18
January 08 2012 15:04 GMT
#122
On January 07 2012 13:07 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 22:34 Drogith wrote:
On January 06 2012 20:45 gosuMalicE wrote:
Wtf the Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Nunavut region is stupid compared to the others, there will be like 3-5 people from the whole region, just put us with alberta/bc/alaska ffs.


I disagree. Yes, you may have a smaller population to grab from, but I have had multiple job applications from the listings I have put up. Also, if you look at the NSL thread, both Saskatchewan and Manitoba have teams built up to compete. There are 2 cities about the size of Boston in that region, and I was able to get ~22-26 people in New England consistently for LAN tournaments.

Now, I am definitely not saying you are wrong, heck you may be a lot more right than I am and if so, I will gladly redistrict to try and balance things out better. It may come to a point where we combine some US and Canadian areas to get the right population spread. We already did it with Alaska, why not right?

From what I gather, BC and Alberta can't be compared with Manitoba and Saskatchewan, no offense to anyone. BC and Alberta can field 15-20 GMs if everyone were active, I think the prairie provinces may be lucky to field a few.

However, that is just the skill level of these provinces. Both Manitoba and SK seem to have pretty active communities.

Well it comes form the fact that the total population of Saskatchewan + Manitoba + Nunavut is only about ~2 000 000 people, that's about 1/4 of the population of BC + Alberta alone.


On January 07 2012 13:07 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 22:34 Drogith wrote:
On January 06 2012 20:45 gosuMalicE wrote:
Wtf the Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Nunavut region is stupid compared to the others, there will be like 3-5 people from the whole region, just put us with alberta/bc/alaska ffs.


I disagree. Yes, you may have a smaller population to grab from, but I have had multiple job applications from the listings I have put up. Also, if you look at the NSL thread, both Saskatchewan and Manitoba have teams built up to compete. There are 2 cities about the size of Boston in that region, and I was able to get ~22-26 people in New England consistently for LAN tournaments.

Now, I am definitely not saying you are wrong, heck you may be a lot more right than I am and if so, I will gladly redistrict to try and balance things out better. It may come to a point where we combine some US and Canadian areas to get the right population spread. We already did it with Alaska, why not right?

From what I gather, BC and Alberta can't be compared with Manitoba and Saskatchewan, no offense to anyone. BC and Alberta can field 15-20 GMs if everyone were active, I think the prairie provinces may be lucky to field a few.

However, that is just the skill level of these provinces. Both Manitoba and SK seem to have pretty active communities.


Nothing to do with the skill level of the provinces, just the population, there are several top masters players on the Saskatchewan CSL teams too.
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
ePLocust
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States587 Posts
January 09 2012 17:43 GMT
#123
On January 08 2012 23:32 Drogith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 12:03 Troxle wrote:
So this will be open to all players? Could a semi pro tean form specifically for this type of tournament? No sponsors or anything just like a clan tag to signify some team unity. I know you say this is a bit off in the distance so there is time to practice. I know a few people in the South who would play, though they don't use TL for anything other than watching streams so I'd be informing them directly. Sounds like a great way for players to get their name out there and open the game to a wider number of people!


All players except for contracted pros, so no Idra or QXC or Naniwa to worry about. It's a way to get your name out, a "best of the unknowns" if you were. So technically, yes, you could form your own semi-pro team with tag and all.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 16:28 ePLocust wrote:
On January 08 2012 11:30 Drogith wrote:
On January 08 2012 11:28 ePLocust wrote:
On January 07 2012 14:29 Drogith wrote:
On January 07 2012 12:31 ePLocust wrote:
Hey I'm running the New York National Star League team I would be willing to help put the US NE team together if there isn't anyone else doing it.

Edit;
If you want to contact me you can e-mail me @ locustsstarcraft@gmail.com, pm me here or add me on skype : grlundahl

Psst. This isn't a team league.
Your not the first to make that mistake either. I guess, do to the relatively close posting times for both the NSL and the SPGL you can mix up the two. But we are two separate entities.

NSL- teams with everyone involved
SPGL- individual with no pros


oh okay. now that I've read your reddit post seems like I'm not needed.

No, you're still needed. Gotta keep Boyo training hard. Go Team Epidemic!


Well there's that but I meant specifically help with the league:p

Besides the jobs I have listed, if you have any other skills that can help: website development, graphics, etc... and want to help out, then I'd be glad to see what you have to offer.


Heh. The only thing I'm really learning right now is coding but I'm not all that great at it just yet.
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 09 2012 19:02 GMT
#124
On January 10 2012 02:43 ePLocust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 23:32 Drogith wrote:
On January 08 2012 12:03 Troxle wrote:
So this will be open to all players? Could a semi pro tean form specifically for this type of tournament? No sponsors or anything just like a clan tag to signify some team unity. I know you say this is a bit off in the distance so there is time to practice. I know a few people in the South who would play, though they don't use TL for anything other than watching streams so I'd be informing them directly. Sounds like a great way for players to get their name out there and open the game to a wider number of people!


All players except for contracted pros, so no Idra or QXC or Naniwa to worry about. It's a way to get your name out, a "best of the unknowns" if you were. So technically, yes, you could form your own semi-pro team with tag and all.

On January 08 2012 16:28 ePLocust wrote:
On January 08 2012 11:30 Drogith wrote:
On January 08 2012 11:28 ePLocust wrote:
On January 07 2012 14:29 Drogith wrote:
On January 07 2012 12:31 ePLocust wrote:
Hey I'm running the New York National Star League team I would be willing to help put the US NE team together if there isn't anyone else doing it.

Edit;
If you want to contact me you can e-mail me @ locustsstarcraft@gmail.com, pm me here or add me on skype : grlundahl

Psst. This isn't a team league.
Your not the first to make that mistake either. I guess, do to the relatively close posting times for both the NSL and the SPGL you can mix up the two. But we are two separate entities.

NSL- teams with everyone involved
SPGL- individual with no pros


oh okay. now that I've read your reddit post seems like I'm not needed.

No, you're still needed. Gotta keep Boyo training hard. Go Team Epidemic!


Well there's that but I meant specifically help with the league:p

Besides the jobs I have listed, if you have any other skills that can help: website development, graphics, etc... and want to help out, then I'd be glad to see what you have to offer.


Heh. The only thing I'm really learning right now is coding but I'm not all that great at it just yet.

Sorry, nothing like that available. The only thing I needed taht for, is a RUBY programmer and I already have someone doing that for me.
Founder of the New England SC2 League
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 10 2012 01:22 GMT
#125
I have been seeing some amazing resumes from you guys. keep them coming in, and don't worry about the deadline of tonight, push it out to Thursday if you need the extra time. It was my fault on the mis-send and the delay. I'm really really looking forward to seeing the amazing talent we have.

I even may have a few people picked out for a verbal interview.
Founder of the New England SC2 League
GleefulPiXie
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada76 Posts
January 10 2012 03:13 GMT
#126
Ottawa!
Master Protoss Player - www.twitch.tv/gleefulmidget - Don't eat the crab dip yahyah
bigL
Profile Joined December 2007
Canada20 Posts
January 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#127
Kitchener, any other players ?!!? lets do this
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
January 10 2012 04:45 GMT
#128
Sounds like an amazing idea that should have started a long time ago. Only thing I'm wondering is what exactly is the purpose of the regional separation aside from diversified automatic competition, is it to spread out a pool of players among eight tournaments instead of instantly having one huge tournament? Thing is, with an entry fee of $15 I feel like that'd weed out a huge amount of potential players right off the bat, plus there's no fast, efficient way of proving location of residence without getting personal, and even then people can lie or fake it. At any rate, I hope it works out because it sounds like an awesome idea. Can't wait to see this get started!
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
January 10 2012 06:18 GMT
#129
This is a great idea, but it won't be easy. The definition of "pro player" is still a bit fuzzy. There are some obvious ones, but there are also those who play full time, but don't necessarily get a team salary. So are they considered not pro?
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 10 2012 10:24 GMT
#130
On January 10 2012 13:45 Areon wrote:
Sounds like an amazing idea that should have started a long time ago. Only thing I'm wondering is what exactly is the purpose of the regional separation aside from diversified automatic competition, is it to spread out a pool of players among eight tournaments instead of instantly having one huge tournament? Thing is, with an entry fee of $15 I feel like that'd weed out a huge amount of potential players right off the bat, plus there's no fast, efficient way of proving location of residence without getting personal, and even then people can lie or fake it. At any rate, I hope it works out because it sounds like an awesome idea. Can't wait to see this get started!


I've been diligently working on reducing the $15 down to $0. You see, I currently run a regional league in the New England area. We have had great support from our sponsors and I proposed them the concept of this league. They like it and are going to give us product. They are also proposing it further up the ladder to gain actual funding for the league. I do have to wait until after CES before I go any further in negotiations.

As far as the regions go, you nailed part of it with spreading out the talent. If you want to, you could even consider it a big tournament of 256 that takes place over 2 months. What it also does, is spotlights up and coming players in the different regions and, much like other sports, gives you a local face to cheer for the next tournament.

On January 10 2012 15:18 Mr Showtime wrote:
This is a great idea, but it won't be easy. The definition of "pro player" is still a bit fuzzy. There are some obvious ones, but there are also those who play full time, but don't necessarily get a team salary. So are they considered not pro?


I consider the players that get a salary from a team ro can make a living off of playing all the time as pro players. Destiny, just as an example, makes enough money to survive on. That, I consider pro. Now mind you, it's either or, not necessarily both.
Founder of the New England SC2 League
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 12 2012 16:03 GMT
#131
OP has been updated as such.

I just wanted to give everyone an update so far as a lot of people don't read all the way through a thread... me included sometimes. Current negotiations with sponsors are going very good and it looks like I will be able to make this free. There are still job openings for casters, admins, and producers based off of regions. You can go here to see what the jobs entail and where you can shoot an email to apply. I am just about ready to start actually hiring people into positions. I've also been in some chats with MLG about working with them in a few ways. Very exciting btw. More info to come when CES is over.


And once more, I did send out emails a while back for everyone that applied.
Founder of the New England SC2 League
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
January 12 2012 17:26 GMT
#132
I want this for Europe.
btw: Wyoming and Montana are missing.
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 12 2012 17:34 GMT
#133
On January 13 2012 02:26 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
I want this for Europe.
btw: Wyoming and Montana are missing.

You sir, have a keen eye!
Founder of the New England SC2 League
lonzzie
Profile Joined September 2011
United States4 Posts
January 12 2012 18:43 GMT
#134
maybe the leagues could be run by local barcrafts : )
ahhh motherland
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 12 2012 19:09 GMT
#135
On January 13 2012 03:43 lonzzie wrote:
maybe the leagues could be run by local barcrafts : )


I can see that being done for the state vs state league that Canucks is running, but since this is large regions, I don't think that would work too well. Having a barcraft event to watch this. I can see that one for sure
Founder of the New England SC2 League
OceanMan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada21 Posts
January 12 2012 19:11 GMT
#136
Quebec here, really interested. I will be following this thread to see what happens!
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 19 2012 14:15 GMT
#137
Sorry, no update this week. The sponsors are back from CES and I have spoken to 2 of them through email about product they have alreasy sent out for my local league and some clarifications for future development. Speaking of which, do we have any graphic designers in the house?
Founder of the New England SC2 League
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:26:32
January 19 2012 14:25 GMT
#138
Just wondering... would you guys need french casters AND english casters for Quebec? Or will everything be run in english?

I don't think it's a problem either way since most of the eSports fan are pretty much all bilangual (they don't have much choice lol) but casting some games in "Canadian French" when some players from Quebec are playing could actually bring new blood to the scene I think.
Drogith
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1350 Posts
January 19 2012 14:35 GMT
#139
On January 19 2012 23:25 Xalorian wrote:
Just wondering... would you guys need french casters AND english casters for Quebec? Or will everything be run in english?

I don't think it's a problem either way since most of the eSports fan are pretty much all bilangual (they don't have much choice lol) but casting some games in "Canadian French" when some players from Quebec are playing could actually bring new blood to the scene I think.

Everything is run in english, but if this takes off, I think that would be a great idea. There are spanish and russian casters who have proposed the same as you. Are you offering to cast in french?
Founder of the New England SC2 League
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
January 19 2012 15:18 GMT
#140
On January 19 2012 23:35 Drogith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 23:25 Xalorian wrote:
Just wondering... would you guys need french casters AND english casters for Quebec? Or will everything be run in english?

I don't think it's a problem either way since most of the eSports fan are pretty much all bilangual (they don't have much choice lol) but casting some games in "Canadian French" when some players from Quebec are playing could actually bring new blood to the scene I think.

Everything is run in english, but if this takes off, I think that would be a great idea. There are spanish and russian casters who have proposed the same as you. Are you offering to cast in french?


My knowledge of the game is not bad at all and my french speaking skill is quite good too, i would say.

I can't say that I am a good caster since I pretty much never tried, so there is probably plenty of french casters in canada better than me, but I could try it and send a sample to you.

I would love too if it turns out that I am actually any good.

I follow the scene quite a lot and I'm an Information Technology/Network technician too and completed some class in cisco CCNA, if you guys need any help with something.

Woud you like a more formal application by mail?
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