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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 04:29:42
July 10 2012 04:28 GMT
#3321
Ty Kau ^.^

Wow was waiting for the punchline and motbob delivers as always!

poor ITW ;__; hm I thought it was a ninja
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
July 10 2012 04:41 GMT
#3322
On July 07 2012 20:07 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:07 Xxio wrote:
Nestea, MVP, MC and MKP are all great players. For the first three, their old achievements don't mean as much as the championships today because of the low skill level of the players at the time. Similarly, I think that we will look back on the tournaments of 2011-2012 in one or two years time and go "wow, people really weren't very good back then". But more than that, nothing about them stuck with me, I suppose. Same goes for Stork and other, older BW pros.

I think that there is still a vast amount of untapped potential in StarCraft 2, strategically and mechanically. Hopefully this trend of (mostly foreign) players running from one weekend tournament to the next will be replaced by something more sedentary. Players need to live in proper team houses and play in tournaments that don't start and finish over the course of three days if they want to improve their skill and invent exciting, new styles that push StarCraft 2 to its limit. Practicing on ladder is not good enough, and the huge difference between the tournament structures of MLG and GSL is always overlooked.

A major reason why StarCraft tournaments like the OSL are so exciting is because the players have time to practice and create strategies specifically for one or two opponents, and play their games in peak condition. Right now, tournaments like MLG are just a grind. Many of the top players were probably at a different tournament a week or two before and they will use the same strategies and tactics that they always have until someone's ingenuity or a patch forces them to innovate. The winner is determined by a different (and less interesting and laudable, imo) set of skills and circumstances than those of the winner of a GSL or OSL.

You can equate it to the difference between a huge war in medieval times where the warriors just go from castle to castle and fight in huge free-for-all brawls, and a samurai duel in feudal Japan. Another example is in professional Go, where there are amateur tournaments with time limits on games and the players have multiple games in a day. But at the highest levels, the best players have long drawn-out games with months of preparation. Personally, I think that the MLG format is great for amateurs and the GSL format is unquestionably the ideal for the top players.

Coach Park (SKT1 coach) said that one of the biggest factors in why KeSPA players will come to dominate the SC2 scene is that they are working in structured and time-tested team house environments, and I believe him.


Thank you for the reply

Do you think that with the advent of HotS, championships achieved shortly after that release are worth less (in terms of your respect) than championships achieved right now then? After all, when people start playing HotS they will carry over some builds, but all the races will change significantly - probably Terran most of all with the Mech style - and everyone will go back to being not so good. Not to the same extent as GSL Open Seasons, but still far less polished play.

edit: with regards to MVP, Nestea, MC and MKP in particular, what makes me respect them more than Hero, Parting, MMA and the like is that they are just so consistent. Considering all the comments about how SC2 takes less skill, is more volatile etc etc, it is just amazing that these guys have been around since the Open Seasons and (with the possible exception of Nestea) are still considered to be contenders for the best players of their races. Only 1 of the four, MC, has ever dropped out of GSL, and he got back in there through a ridiculous run at Orlando. To me that stands out far more than Parting's storms, MMA's drops or Hero's cutesy Warp Prism micro.


Well yea, for the first few months people will just be figuring out how to play the game.
KTY
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2578 Posts
July 10 2012 08:33 GMT
#3323
On July 10 2012 09:01 GMarshal wrote:
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On July 10 2012 04:50 MavivaM wrote:
On July 10 2012 03:39 motbob wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 10 2012 02:58 MavivaM wrote:
Many of the staff members and privileged posters have a unique avatar.
Excluding the "TLPD", the "banhammer", "TL player", "TSL winner" and the canonics one, what's the meaning behind the others?
I can imagine the reasoning behind Nazgul's and EvilTeleTubby's ones, but the others?
I'm curious...

Edit: of course I'm looking at + Show Spoiler +

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TeamLiquid.net_Staff

Manifesto7 probably is a communist... but the others?
Does it mean for example that GTR kills people?

The icons should be taken as literally as possible. For example, Plexa really likes waffles. ETT used to work on the Teletubbies show as an actor. Ares[Effort] is good at compiling replays. Waxangel is really lazy. And Nazgul is one of nine evil beings of great power dedicated to serving a dark lord.

Thanks, my respect for ETT has become even bigger.
I think this icon for the oldtimers is a nice touch.

The only ones I don't get then are tree.hugger, semioldguy and especially InToTheWow since I can't understand what that icon is.


Semioldguy is one of those pieces from a board game (carcassonne specifically I think), it has a specific name, but it escapes me right now.

tree.hugger has a Lorax, from the Dr Seus story, The Lorax.

Intothewow's icon is a goat, wearing a wizard hat, smoking a pipe.

Oh, wow. I always thought it was a stargazing elephant wearing a viking helmet.
The frumious Bandersnatch
LakseWim
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands202 Posts
July 10 2012 09:45 GMT
#3324
Hi i ordered the awesome TL hoodie and some other stuff a couple of days ago and now i would like to check my order status. I need my order ID to do this, could someone please tell me where i can find it? Thanks in advance!
NaNiwa | HerO | MC | Rain | PartinG | sOs
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
July 10 2012 12:09 GMT
#3325
On July 10 2012 18:45 LakseWim wrote:
Hi i ordered the awesome TL hoodie and some other stuff a couple of days ago and now i would like to check my order status. I need my order ID to do this, could someone please tell me where i can find it? Thanks in advance!

Sorry I don't, but there's a thread for these kinds of questions: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304222
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19086 Posts
July 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#3326
On July 10 2012 13:05 Kau wrote:
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On July 09 2012 16:12 Aerisky wrote:
Is Kau pronounced "cow"? Was going to ask that. Maybe "how do you pronounce your name?" is an important question too

What about "salle"? I assume non-swedes think it's like "sal" (which is how I read it in my head). Would be interesting to see the disparity between how we see a lot of mods' names and how it's supposed to be pronounced haha.


Yes pronounced cow.

He's also sacred in India.
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thegiantnome
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
July 10 2012 21:36 GMT
#3327
I have a question that is probably not easily answered O_o. What was it like to start a professional gaming team? What were the challenges and how did you overcome them? Is it rewarding or would you go back in time and pick a different career path if you could? Lastly any advice for someone looking to start a progaming team? :D Thanks!
Today is a great day to forget all your problems and create bigger new ones- Dane Cook
Randobob
Profile Joined April 2011
United States9 Posts
July 10 2012 23:12 GMT
#3328
Any recommendations for someone trying to break into the esports scene? Not as a player...I’m too old and bad, so that ship as sailed. I have a 4-year degree in management, and have been a project manager for over six years post graduation, and have a lot of business experience; so I'm actually looking to break into the management side. I'd be very interested in emailing or PM'ing with someone on the staff to see how they got into it. Is it even possible without a degree in programming? I guess I’m just curious to see if i could eventually find a career I love and am passionate about, but still pays well and has security. Which would differ from my current management roll that pays very well, but is slowly sucking out my soul.
The crows seemed to calling his name thought Caw
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 02:57:43
July 11 2012 02:57 GMT
#3329
On July 09 2012 15:09 Aerisky wrote:
Nice, nice salle :D

What does JWD stand for, if anything?

JWD are my initials. I got mad creative.

in spoken word "JWD" is a bit of a mouthful, and it's just a reference to my actual name, so I'm kind of surprised that people I know through TL (HB especially, haha) will almost always use it to refer to me. "Joe" seems simpler! (then again...I find myself referring to HB as "HB" or "Hot_Bid" instead of his monosyllabic name. maybe this is always natural, for people who met under aliases.)

I think R1CH got it right. no tough choices there.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 03:05:46
July 11 2012 03:05 GMT
#3330
On July 11 2012 11:57 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 15:09 Aerisky wrote:
Nice, nice salle :D

What does JWD stand for, if anything?

JWD are my initials. I got mad creative.

in spoken word "JWD" is a bit of a mouthful, and it's just a reference to my actual name, so I'm kind of surprised that people I know through TL (HB especially, haha) will almost always use it to refer to me. "Joe" seems simpler! (then again...I find myself referring to HB as "HB" or "Hot_Bid" instead of his monosyllabic name. maybe this is always natural, for people who met under aliases.)

I think R1CH got it right. no tough choices there.

Ah I see, thanks for the reply~ ^^

Yeah, people who meet under aliases do tend to call each other by their handles, it seems. I would have called you JWD if I had met you in person, actually. Somehow didn't know before, so if we do meet, I'll call you Joe
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
July 11 2012 03:12 GMT
#3331
On July 11 2012 11:57 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 15:09 Aerisky wrote:
Nice, nice salle :D

What does JWD stand for, if anything?

JWD are my initials. I got mad creative.

in spoken word "JWD" is a bit of a mouthful, and it's just a reference to my actual name, so I'm kind of surprised that people I know through TL (HB especially, haha) will almost always use it to refer to me. "Joe" seems simpler! (then again...I find myself referring to HB as "HB" or "Hot_Bid" instead of his monosyllabic name. maybe this is always natural, for people who met under aliases.)

I think R1CH got it right. no tough choices there.

I dunno. Are-One-Tch is much more of a mouthful than "Rich." I wish I had gotten to know him as Rich, so I wouldn't have to bother trying to pronounce his complicated screenname.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34493 Posts
July 11 2012 10:24 GMT
#3332
On July 11 2012 12:12 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 11:57 JWD wrote:
On July 09 2012 15:09 Aerisky wrote:
Nice, nice salle :D

What does JWD stand for, if anything?

JWD are my initials. I got mad creative.

in spoken word "JWD" is a bit of a mouthful, and it's just a reference to my actual name, so I'm kind of surprised that people I know through TL (HB especially, haha) will almost always use it to refer to me. "Joe" seems simpler! (then again...I find myself referring to HB as "HB" or "Hot_Bid" instead of his monosyllabic name. maybe this is always natural, for people who met under aliases.)

I think R1CH got it right. no tough choices there.

I dunno. Are-One-Tch is much more of a mouthful than "Rich." I wish I had gotten to know him as Rich, so I wouldn't have to bother trying to pronounce his complicated screenname.

Are you serious that you actually call him are-one-tch instead of rich? Can't tell if you're joking here lol.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19086 Posts
July 11 2012 12:17 GMT
#3333
As Master of Numbers you don't agree with that practice?
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
July 11 2012 12:56 GMT
#3334
On July 09 2012 12:26 Ares[Effort] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 16:39 quirinus wrote:
If I were to post a replay thread of a tournament, which forum should I post it on? BW General or BW Tourneys?

BW General

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On July 09 2012 11:45 Dalguno wrote:
Is there a compiled list of mods Twitters somewhere? I know there are a few here but that's only Kennigit/HotBid really.

Don't know but mine is @AresEffort


Thank you.
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Mari0
Profile Joined February 2010
United States2 Posts
July 11 2012 14:29 GMT
#3335
Getting a new batch of TL jerseys/shirts anytime soon?


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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
July 11 2012 14:43 GMT
#3336
On July 11 2012 12:12 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 11:57 JWD wrote:
On July 09 2012 15:09 Aerisky wrote:
Nice, nice salle :D

What does JWD stand for, if anything?

JWD are my initials. I got mad creative.

in spoken word "JWD" is a bit of a mouthful, and it's just a reference to my actual name, so I'm kind of surprised that people I know through TL (HB especially, haha) will almost always use it to refer to me. "Joe" seems simpler! (then again...I find myself referring to HB as "HB" or "Hot_Bid" instead of his monosyllabic name. maybe this is always natural, for people who met under aliases.)

I think R1CH got it right. no tough choices there.

I dunno. Are-One-Tch is much more of a mouthful than "Rich." I wish I had gotten to know him as Rich, so I wouldn't have to bother trying to pronounce his complicated screenname.

Oh I always pronounced it as Are One See Aitch. Guess I was wrong, Are one tch it is!
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
July 11 2012 14:47 GMT
#3337
On July 11 2012 23:43 salle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 12:12 Kiett wrote:
On July 11 2012 11:57 JWD wrote:
On July 09 2012 15:09 Aerisky wrote:
Nice, nice salle :D

What does JWD stand for, if anything?

JWD are my initials. I got mad creative.

in spoken word "JWD" is a bit of a mouthful, and it's just a reference to my actual name, so I'm kind of surprised that people I know through TL (HB especially, haha) will almost always use it to refer to me. "Joe" seems simpler! (then again...I find myself referring to HB as "HB" or "Hot_Bid" instead of his monosyllabic name. maybe this is always natural, for people who met under aliases.)

I think R1CH got it right. no tough choices there.

I dunno. Are-One-Tch is much more of a mouthful than "Rich." I wish I had gotten to know him as Rich, so I wouldn't have to bother trying to pronounce his complicated screenname.

Oh I always pronounced it as Are One See Aitch. Guess I was wrong, Are one tch it is!


Are One See Aitch vs See Three Pee You

Who wins?

+ Show Spoiler +
obviously R1CH does, he can hack C3PU!
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 11 2012 21:11 GMT
#3338
If you could get one current kespa pro to stream bw on twitch who would it be? And same question but with only pros retired from bw? (so boxer nada and july are on the table)
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:28:05
July 11 2012 21:23 GMT
#3339
(P)Stork (although (P)Bisu would also be fun to watch from first person view with his insane multitasking) and (P)Reach.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 11 2012 21:26 GMT
#3340
On July 12 2012 06:11 Jaaaaasper wrote:
If you could get one current kespa pro to stream bw on twitch who would it be? And same question but with only pros retired from bw? (so boxer nada and july are on the table)

Bisu, I froth at the mouth just thinking about watching him play and the chance I might have to talk to him on stream chat. If not Bisu than I would probably choose Fantasy. For retired pros I'd go with Nal_rA. Although the language barrier would kind of suck :/
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