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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

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S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
May 08 2011 14:38 GMT
#1441
Teamliquid needs a concrete system for bans. It seems waaaaaay too subjective. There needs to be a list of rules, and if you break any one of them, you get a specific amount of points and they last for a specific amount of time. If you get more than X points, you're done until some of your points expire. No one should get banned for one post imo.

That's a little off topic though. IdrA deserved extra punishment, but 45x the punishment is something that's ridiculous to me. Especially since what IdrA said ("PM Chill if this upsets you") had nothing to do with harassing or spamming. I don't believe that he should be punished that much for how people interpreted his words. He should be punished for what HE did.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6178 Posts
May 08 2011 14:40 GMT
#1442
good decision, I like how TL managed that.

Hope Idra woould learn a bit after that but I really doubt it
n_n
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
May 08 2011 14:41 GMT
#1443
On May 08 2011 23:38 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
Teamliquid needs a concrete system for bans. It seems waaaaaay too subjective. There needs to be a list of rules, and if you break any one of them, you get a specific amount of points and they last for a specific amount of time. If you get more than X points, you're done until some of your points expire. No one should get banned for one post imo.

That's a little off topic though. IdrA deserved extra punishment, but 45x the punishment is something that's ridiculous to me. Especially since what IdrA said ("PM Chill if this upsets you") had nothing to do with harassing or spamming. I don't believe that he should be punished that much for how people interpreted his words. He should be punished for what HE did.


You really don't think Idra had bad intentions when he posted that on Twitter? He knows his fans well and he knew exactly how they would interrupt it/react to it. Idra has gotten away with a hell of a lot around here the constant string of 2 days bans(which for anyone else would have resulted in perma ban after the first like 3) obviously did nothing to change his attitude.... Heres hoping a 90 ban day will.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19152 Posts
May 08 2011 14:42 GMT
#1444
On May 08 2011 23:38 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
Teamliquid needs a concrete system for bans. It seems waaaaaay too subjective. There needs to be a list of rules, and if you break any one of them, you get a specific amount of points and they last for a specific amount of time. If you get more than X points, you're done until some of your points expire. No one should get banned for one post imo.

That's a little off topic though. IdrA deserved extra punishment, but 45x the punishment is something that's ridiculous to me. Especially since what IdrA said ("PM Chill if this upsets you") had nothing to do with harassing or spamming. I don't believe that he should be punished that much for how people interpreted his words. He should be punished for what HE did.

This has been suggested, and the obvious problem this creates is that then people will accumulate as many points as they can without getting banned and mock the staff. Before you say "that won't happen", I'll say I've seen it happen numerous times.
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 08 2011 14:43 GMT
#1445
I wish he'd just get permabanned so this wouldn't be news every time it happens. I don't think anyone would agree that IdrA is going to clean up his act just because he got banned.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
May 08 2011 14:43 GMT
#1446
On May 08 2011 07:40 Aravan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 07:39 Horse...falcon wrote:
For everybody's benefit Idra should follow Artosis/Day9/Tasteless's lead and just stop posting on TL anyway.

Sean does post on the forums (though not with great frequency).

I think Sean mainly stopped posting after the masturbation on the plane disaster.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
May 08 2011 14:44 GMT
#1447
And all this could have been avoided if IdrA had acted like a grown up, Oh lordy.

Though the number of uninformed(or dumb) fanboys posting in here is hilarious, did that guy few pages back really not understand what repetitive is? Hilarious :D
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 08 2011 14:45 GMT
#1448
On May 08 2011 23:42 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 23:38 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
Teamliquid needs a concrete system for bans. It seems waaaaaay too subjective. There needs to be a list of rules, and if you break any one of them, you get a specific amount of points and they last for a specific amount of time. If you get more than X points, you're done until some of your points expire. No one should get banned for one post imo.

That's a little off topic though. IdrA deserved extra punishment, but 45x the punishment is something that's ridiculous to me. Especially since what IdrA said ("PM Chill if this upsets you") had nothing to do with harassing or spamming. I don't believe that he should be punished that much for how people interpreted his words. He should be punished for what HE did.

This has been suggested, and the obvious problem this creates is that then people will accumulate as many points as they can without getting banned and mock the staff. Before you say "that won't happen", I'll say I've seen it happen numerous times.


It's a viable way to work, but because of what you say, you'd have to keep it a secret. Otherwise people would manipulate the system.

I don't care either way, your system is subjective but usually fine. And if you get unfairly banned (it happens) you can always PM a mod and they respond very nicely and politely.
bellykiller
Profile Joined December 2010
United States69 Posts
May 08 2011 14:46 GMT
#1449
I love TL's decision. It should always be like that, no matter how famous you are! If you are a prick you will be banned!
“Warning! Assholes are closer than they appear”
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:49:19
May 08 2011 14:47 GMT
#1450
On May 08 2011 23:24 Aesop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 23:19 zunova wrote:
I don't see how "pm Chill" translates to "encourage to harass and spam" but I guess some people saw it like that. Either way I hope IdrA continues to stream, really enjoyed it whenever he did.

"PM Chill if this upsets you". There has been a broad consensus among the people who bothered to send a message to interpret this as an invitation to "harass and spam". Given, there is plenty of meaning within a single sentence, it could be interpreted in various ways. But most people took it in exactly this way and insisting on the literal meaning or stating what it could have meant won't get us anywhere.


"evrybody PM chill of this upsets you" is a very clear invitation/encouragement to spam a mod no matter how you look at it.


and either we assume he expected exactly what happened and still did it or Idra is very stupid so he had no clue that this would happen.

and idra is definitly not stupid.

now its possible that he just did it out of a moment of rage and didnt really think it through. and he had the opportunity to talk with the tl staff about it but judging from the result of that talk this wasnt the case.

seems pretty clear to me.


Teamliquid needs a concrete system for bans. It seems waaaaaay too subjective. There needs to be a list of rules, and if you break any one of them, you get a specific amount of points and they last for a specific amount of time. If you get more than X points, you're done until some of your points expire. No one should get banned for one post imo.


TLs judgement and moderation is the best i know in the whole internet even after the wave of '10 which brought the quality here down quite some.

and if that was the case then idra wouldvebeen permbanned years ago. so ya.
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
May 08 2011 14:47 GMT
#1451
Aww I'm sad I always thought he would get banned though lol. Maybe not for this but I'm constantly asking him "what did you do this time".

3 Months isn't that bad though. And If he still streams what does it really matter to us anyway. It's not like hes banned from B.Net or something
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 08 2011 14:47 GMT
#1452
On May 08 2011 23:43 Sinensis wrote:
I wish he'd just get permabanned so this wouldn't be news every time it happens. I don't think anyone would agree that IdrA is going to clean up his act just because he got banned.


Well it wouldn't feel right if Idra couldn't by definition be banned at a later date. Speaking of which, does hold the record for the longest period of bans of anyone active on TL? I remember someone had a thread like a year ago on people-who-have-been banned statistics.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:50:59
May 08 2011 14:49 GMT
#1453
On May 08 2011 23:43 ComusLoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 07:40 Aravan wrote:
On May 08 2011 07:39 Horse...falcon wrote:
For everybody's benefit Idra should follow Artosis/Day9/Tasteless's lead and just stop posting on TL anyway.

Sean does post on the forums (though not with great frequency).

I think Sean mainly stopped posting after the masturbation on the plane disaster.


not really he posts in LR threads some times,I had the honor of him posting in the first topic I have ever made on TL.

Mods do not need to justify their extension of ban in anyway,don't even ask them to.If you've been here long enough and avctive enough on the forums,you know that they are right.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Phisk
Profile Joined June 2010
166 Posts
May 08 2011 14:49 GMT
#1454
I had assumed the twitter message was a joke, I was under the impression that idra and chill was on good terms. 90 days seems a little steep but I guess that's what you get for going after staff members. Didn't he get another 90 days ban pretty recently (like 5-6 months ago?) for talking shit about some other staff member? Forums not gonna be the same without him =/, it's a shame that its the fans that suffers.
Nesquik
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom600 Posts
May 08 2011 14:50 GMT
#1455
90 days is a very long time, i think 30 days would been fine. You do know how long that is right ... ? 2160 Hours. 129600 mins 7776000 Seconds.
Oh IMMvp won agian but EGHuK getting Ro8 is a way bigger deal - Gootecks
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#1456
On May 08 2011 23:49 Phisk wrote:
I had assumed the twitter message was a joke, I was under the impression that idra and chill was on good terms. 90 days seems a little steep but I guess that's what you get for going after staff members. Didn't he get another 90 days ban pretty recently (like 5-6 months ago?) for talking shit about some other staff member? Forums not gonna be the same without him =/, it's a shame that its the fans that suffers.


Forums are not going to be the same without him? Try us.battle.net. Everyone posts like IdrA there.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
May 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#1457
On May 08 2011 23:50 Nesquik wrote:
90 days is a very long time, i think 30 days would been fine. You do know how long that is right ... ? 2160 Hours. 129600 mins 7776000 Seconds.


90 days is enough for all parties to forget about the incident.

2 days for idra,88 days for the fans.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
May 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#1458
On May 08 2011 23:50 Nesquik wrote:
90 days is a very long time, i think 30 days would been fine. You do know how long that is right ... ? 2160 Hours. 129600 mins 7776000 Seconds.

Considering a perma ban(Which is what most people would have gotten) Is an infinite amount of time,2160 Hours. 129600 mins 7776000 Seconds isn't that long in relativity
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
BuzzKerbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia46 Posts
May 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#1459

I disliked the guy for a while but kind of overlooked it as mostly just in game bm, respected him for backing up his smack talk with performances recently but this kind of stuff is just totally childish.

Supposably, according to some who know Greg, he does not care what anyone thinks of him but its quite clear it is not the case at all but all his behavior; simply just a pure smug brat who only pretends to not care.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#1460
On May 08 2011 23:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 23:50 Nesquik wrote:
90 days is a very long time, i think 30 days would been fine. You do know how long that is right ... ? 2160 Hours. 129600 mins 7776000 Seconds.


90 days is enough for all parties to forget about the incident.

2 days for idra,88 days for the fans.


Lol, so true.
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