EPTThat's a little off topic though. IdrA deserved extra punishment, but 45x the punishment is something that's ridiculous to me. Especially since what IdrA said ("PM Chill if this upsets you") had nothing to do with harassing or spamming. I don't believe that he should be punished that much for how people interpreted his words. He should be punished for what HE did.
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S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
That's a little off topic though. IdrA deserved extra punishment, but 45x the punishment is something that's ridiculous to me. Especially since what IdrA said ("PM Chill if this upsets you") had nothing to do with harassing or spamming. I don't believe that he should be punished that much for how people interpreted his words. He should be punished for what HE did. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6185 Posts
Hope Idra woould learn a bit after that but I really doubt it | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:38 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Teamliquid needs a concrete system for bans. It seems waaaaaay too subjective. There needs to be a list of rules, and if you break any one of them, you get a specific amount of points and they last for a specific amount of time. If you get more than X points, you're done until some of your points expire. No one should get banned for one post imo. That's a little off topic though. IdrA deserved extra punishment, but 45x the punishment is something that's ridiculous to me. Especially since what IdrA said ("PM Chill if this upsets you") had nothing to do with harassing or spamming. I don't believe that he should be punished that much for how people interpreted his words. He should be punished for what HE did. You really don't think Idra had bad intentions when he posted that on Twitter? He knows his fans well and he knew exactly how they would interrupt it/react to it. Idra has gotten away with a hell of a lot around here the constant string of 2 days bans(which for anyone else would have resulted in perma ban after the first like 3) obviously did nothing to change his attitude.... Heres hoping a 90 ban day will. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19259 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:38 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Teamliquid needs a concrete system for bans. It seems waaaaaay too subjective. There needs to be a list of rules, and if you break any one of them, you get a specific amount of points and they last for a specific amount of time. If you get more than X points, you're done until some of your points expire. No one should get banned for one post imo. That's a little off topic though. IdrA deserved extra punishment, but 45x the punishment is something that's ridiculous to me. Especially since what IdrA said ("PM Chill if this upsets you") had nothing to do with harassing or spamming. I don't believe that he should be punished that much for how people interpreted his words. He should be punished for what HE did. This has been suggested, and the obvious problem this creates is that then people will accumulate as many points as they can without getting banned and mock the staff. Before you say "that won't happen", I'll say I've seen it happen numerous times. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
On May 08 2011 07:40 Aravan wrote: Sean does post on the forums (though not with great frequency). I think Sean mainly stopped posting after the masturbation on the plane disaster. | ||
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
Though the number of uninformed(or dumb) fanboys posting in here is hilarious, did that guy few pages back really not understand what repetitive is? Hilarious :D | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:42 tofucake wrote: This has been suggested, and the obvious problem this creates is that then people will accumulate as many points as they can without getting banned and mock the staff. Before you say "that won't happen", I'll say I've seen it happen numerous times. It's a viable way to work, but because of what you say, you'd have to keep it a secret. Otherwise people would manipulate the system. I don't care either way, your system is subjective but usually fine. And if you get unfairly banned (it happens) you can always PM a mod and they respond very nicely and politely. | ||
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bellykiller
United States69 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:24 Aesop wrote: "PM Chill if this upsets you". There has been a broad consensus among the people who bothered to send a message to interpret this as an invitation to "harass and spam". Given, there is plenty of meaning within a single sentence, it could be interpreted in various ways. But most people took it in exactly this way and insisting on the literal meaning or stating what it could have meant won't get us anywhere. "evrybody PM chill of this upsets you" is a very clear invitation/encouragement to spam a mod no matter how you look at it. and either we assume he expected exactly what happened and still did it or Idra is very stupid so he had no clue that this would happen. and idra is definitly not stupid. now its possible that he just did it out of a moment of rage and didnt really think it through. and he had the opportunity to talk with the tl staff about it but judging from the result of that talk this wasnt the case. seems pretty clear to me. Teamliquid needs a concrete system for bans. It seems waaaaaay too subjective. There needs to be a list of rules, and if you break any one of them, you get a specific amount of points and they last for a specific amount of time. If you get more than X points, you're done until some of your points expire. No one should get banned for one post imo. TLs judgement and moderation is the best i know in the whole internet even after the wave of '10 which brought the quality here down quite some. and if that was the case then idra wouldvebeen permbanned years ago. so ya. | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
 I always thought he would get banned though lol. Maybe not for this but I'm constantly asking him "what did you do this time". 3 Months isn't that bad though. And If he still streams what does it really matter to us anyway. It's not like hes banned from B.Net or something | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:43 Sinensis wrote: I wish he'd just get permabanned so this wouldn't be news every time it happens. I don't think anyone would agree that IdrA is going to clean up his act just because he got banned. Well it wouldn't feel right if Idra couldn't by definition be banned at a later date. Speaking of which, does hold the record for the longest period of bans of anyone active on TL? I remember someone had a thread like a year ago on people-who-have-been banned statistics. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51550 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:43 ComusLoM wrote: I think Sean mainly stopped posting after the masturbation on the plane disaster. not really he posts in LR threads some times,I had the honor of him posting in the first topic I have ever made on TL. Mods do not need to justify their extension of ban in anyway,don't even ask them to.If you've been here long enough and avctive enough on the forums,you know that they are right. | ||
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Phisk
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Nesquik
United Kingdom600 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:49 Phisk wrote: I had assumed the twitter message was a joke, I was under the impression that idra and chill was on good terms. 90 days seems a little steep but I guess that's what you get for going after staff members. Didn't he get another 90 days ban pretty recently (like 5-6 months ago?) for talking shit about some other staff member? Forums not gonna be the same without him =/, it's a shame that its the fans that suffers. Forums are not going to be the same without him? Try us.battle.net. Everyone posts like IdrA there. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51550 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:50 Nesquik wrote: 90 days is a very long time, i think 30 days would been fine. You do know how long that is right ... ? 2160 Hours. 129600 mins 7776000 Seconds. 90 days is enough for all parties to forget about the incident. 2 days for idra,88 days for the fans. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:50 Nesquik wrote: 90 days is a very long time, i think 30 days would been fine. You do know how long that is right ... ? 2160 Hours. 129600 mins 7776000 Seconds. Considering a perma ban(Which is what most people would have gotten) Is an infinite amount of time,2160 Hours. 129600 mins 7776000 Seconds isn't that long in relativity  | ||
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BuzzKerbox
Australia46 Posts
I disliked the guy for a while but kind of overlooked it as mostly just in game bm, respected him for backing up his smack talk with performances recently but this kind of stuff is just totally childish. Supposably, according to some who know Greg, he does not care what anyone thinks of him but its quite clear it is not the case at all but all his behavior; simply just a pure smug brat who only pretends to not care. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:53 BLinD-RawR wrote: 90 days is enough for all parties to forget about the incident. 2 days for idra,88 days for the fans. Lol, so true. | ||
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