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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:17:19
May 08 2011 14:16 GMT
#1421
Seems like more of a spite decision but they make the decisions and gotta respect that.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:17:58
May 08 2011 14:16 GMT
#1422
On May 08 2011 23:12 Sneakyz wrote:
Will the fanclub thread actually be unlocked after the initial 2 day ban period, or will it remain locked for the full 90 days of the new ban? Just curious.


I don't think that lock was a direct consequence of IdrA's ban. The mods probably just wanted to keep it from going out of control because everyone was discussing his ban over there despite of the mods telling us to discuss it somewhere else. They will probably unlock it once all this fuss dies down.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:17:20
May 08 2011 14:16 GMT
#1423
typical little boy who got beaten in school a lot.. Always strong on the internet, but when you meet him IRL, he is scared to even look at you

Imo he should just get perm. banned, in sport you must show respect towards people u play against, and he has zero.. He doesnt deserve to be called a pro player.. He is just a little boy who cant deal with defeat, and goes to insult people around. On the internet ofcourse

He is like a cat.. U cant let them stop pissing, and the same way idra never learns

One ring, to rule them all!
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
May 08 2011 14:18 GMT
#1424
On May 08 2011 23:09 Kulijo wrote:
I don't get it. He gets banned and his fanclub is being locked. So why are you still showing his stream? It is a platform for him to speak so it should be effected by the ban. Also it should be a permban if you really think he meant to say his fans should harrass Chill, considering his history.

Doing it like this is basically like saying: "We don't act against his fans, he does."

But you ban Idra for advising his fans to stop caring about Cruncher and the incident.
But some fans do care about (in their eyes) cheating. So you ban Idra even longer for saying something on another platform (twitter) but don't care if he is bm und insulting on his other platform (stream).

I hope I expressed what I mean well enough in English which is: I really don't understand what is happening here.

Welcome to TL.net! Now, it would benefit you to read the OP or the various explanations in this thread again, since most answers to your questions are already there.

You write: So why are you still showing his stream?
Nazgul wrote:
Idra's stream will still be listed in the stream section. Our stream list is an informational resource much like the TLPD, Calendar, or Liquipedia. We believe for these resources to function properly, they must be comprehensive and complete and thus we do not remove banned pro players from them.


You write: So you ban Idra even longer for saying something on another platform (twitter) but don't care if he is bm und insulting on his other platform (stream).

We did not ban him for writing on twitter alone. Nazgul wrote:
We spoke with Idra and he stated that he does not regret his actions and will not change his behavior on our forums. Thus, we've decided to ban him for 90 days.

There are precedents for TL acting upon stuff that happens outside. But this wasn't off TL. He specifically caused users to harass a moderator with PMs. He was given a preferential treatment by speaking to him in person in order to resolve the issues. As that didn't work out, the ban ensued.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
zunova
Profile Joined April 2010
United States83 Posts
May 08 2011 14:19 GMT
#1425
I don't see how "pm Chill" translates to "encourage to harass and spam" but I guess some people saw it like that. Either way I hope IdrA continues to stream, really enjoyed it whenever he did.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
May 08 2011 14:19 GMT
#1426
On May 08 2011 23:16 Samurai- wrote:
typical little boy who got beaten in school a lot.. Always strong on the internet, but when you meet him IRL, he is scared to even look at you

Imo he should just get perm. banned, in sport you must show respect towards people u play against, and he has zero.. He doesnt deserve to be called a pro player.. He is just a little boy who cant deal with defeat, and goes to insult people around. On the internet ofcourse

He is like a cat.. U cant let them stop pissing, and the same way idra never learns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbkLjjlMV8&feature=player_embedded#at=491


Damn you just missed out! 2 more smileys and this post would've been considered coherent
Cold-Blood
Profile Joined March 2010
United States200 Posts
May 08 2011 14:22 GMT
#1427
Completely justified.

Oh Idra... I feel like he's the little kid who you know will always get into trouble and you just wish for once they wont.

Forever and Always #1 YellOw fan.
setmeal
Profile Joined March 2011
162 Posts
May 08 2011 14:22 GMT
#1428
Totally agree with the decision by the TL mods. Good job guys. We can't have players, even pros, openly spamming garbage and flouting the rules.
HipsterBK
Profile Joined May 2011
1 Post
May 08 2011 14:23 GMT
#1429
As if Idra's godlike troll status needed conirming. Im pretty sure the only thing that would actually have an effect were if EG stepped in and told him to cut it out.
As it is he gets free publicity and a larger group of people to watch his games (even if most want to see him lose)

(new account in fear of ban for supporting Idra)
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
May 08 2011 14:24 GMT
#1430
On May 08 2011 23:19 zunova wrote:
I don't see how "pm Chill" translates to "encourage to harass and spam" but I guess some people saw it like that. Either way I hope IdrA continues to stream, really enjoyed it whenever he did.

"PM Chill if this upsets you". There has been a broad consensus among the people who bothered to send a message to interpret this as an invitation to "harass and spam". Given, there is plenty of meaning within a single sentence, it could be interpreted in various ways. But most people took it in exactly this way and insisting on the literal meaning or stating what it could have meant won't get us anywhere.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
May 08 2011 14:28 GMT
#1431
I believe that if idra was not a part of team EG, he would not get a 2day ban in the first place.
Dyme
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany523 Posts
May 08 2011 14:28 GMT
#1432
On May 08 2011 23:16 Samurai- wrote:
typical little boy who got beaten in school a lot.. Always strong on the internet, but when you meet him IRL, he is scared to even look at you

Imo he should just get perm. banned, in sport you must show respect towards people u play against, and he has zero.. He doesnt deserve to be called a pro player.. He is just a little boy who cant deal with defeat, and goes to insult people around. On the internet ofcourse

He is like a cat.. U cant let them stop pissing, and the same way idra never learns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbkLjjlMV8&feature=player_embedded#at=491


Haha, now that IdrA can't defend himself, let's bash him hard.
(Completely disregarding that he wouldn't have answered to a person like you anyways.)

But don't talk about respect when you go on by comparing a person to a pissing cat. Thanks.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:29:41
May 08 2011 14:28 GMT
#1433
On May 08 2011 23:24 Aesop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 23:19 zunova wrote:
I don't see how "pm Chill" translates to "encourage to harass and spam" but I guess some people saw it like that. Either way I hope IdrA continues to stream, really enjoyed it whenever he did.

"PM Chill if this upsets you". There has been a broad consensus among the people who bothered to send a message to interpret this as an invitation to "harass and spam". Given, there is plenty of meaning within a single sentence, it could be interpreted in various ways. But most people took it in exactly this way and insisting on the literal meaning or stating what it could have meant won't get us anywhere.


I think this is more of an argument for banning those people who chose to harass and spam instead of simply contacting Chill with their disapproval.

Edit: Grammar
danscabra
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom12 Posts
May 08 2011 14:29 GMT
#1434
And the plot to turn the western sc2 community into the mindless drones that exist in the Korean community thickens.
Cold-Blood
Profile Joined March 2010
United States200 Posts
May 08 2011 14:29 GMT
#1435
On May 08 2011 23:28 zolii wrote:
I believe that if idra was not a part of team EG, he would not get a 2day ban in the first place.


What do you even mean by that...?
Forever and Always #1 YellOw fan.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 08 2011 14:30 GMT
#1436
On May 08 2011 22:39 Skamtet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:02 Sein wrote:
On May 08 2011 21:55 Skamtet wrote:
On May 08 2011 21:50 Sein wrote:
On May 08 2011 08:44 teve wrote:
I think it's pretty sad how Cruncher was able to so blatantly BM Idra in the third set of their game in the TeamLiquid Star League, and mock Idra's fans in his fan club, without receiving any sort of punishment. While Idra gets crucified for saying that "he's a waste of life".

It's quite hypocritical to take such an aggressive stance against one of the two parties. I realize that Idra has received a lot of warnings already, if not too many, but how is this in any way fair? I hardly believe Cruncher took Idras remark very seriously, I bet you if anything he laughed and felt sorry for Idra.

This is the internet, people don't get hurt by forum posts. What's the point of making this forum a safe haven for insults?


Cruncher typed "" in the third game after Idra repeatedly provoked him in the game lobby after each game by saying things like "Boy it must suck when skill matters".
No need to lie to get your point across.


http://gyazo.com/ef7f840318e3e68c3afb67a55ca70b75.png
http://gyazo.com/c7dff7b0936149ebfccea7c37acdd705.png

No need to incorrectly call someone a liar when you aren't fully informed.
2 times, sick. Still not repeatedly as you said.

Have you seen CrunChers BM on ladder?

.. no?


You said in the third match. Idra repeatedly was a dick to a guy who ended up outskilling him and all he gave in return was a smiley. Nice to see idra finally get a lengthy ban, any other person acting this imaturely on forums almost anywhere would be isp banned so he should count himself lucky.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 08 2011 14:31 GMT
#1437
On May 08 2011 23:16 JediGamer wrote:
Seems like more of a spite decision but they make the decisions and gotta respect that.


you realize he has been banned like 50 times.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:35:39
May 08 2011 14:31 GMT
#1438
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 23:07 tofucake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Then don't bring up the pre-game banter if the walkover statement is your main beef.
It's not his main beef. His main beef is repeatedly, and he's giving you more examples which further his argument.


I'm saying the pre-game banter example is not a very good one.

The interview example isn't a very good one either. When's the last time you heard of a tournament disqualifying a player for disrespecting his opponent in an interview?

If a poster breaks the forum rules, then he should be banned. I don't question that in the slightest. But bringing up Idra's TSL conduct is simply not related to this. If you want to bring up Idra's unsportsmanlike behavior then bring up his MLG games against HuK, that was a hoot(though if the in-game banter law was invoked in those games HuK would have suffered a forfeit).
/commercial
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 08 2011 14:33 GMT
#1439
On May 08 2011 23:28 zolii wrote:
I believe that if idra was not a part of team EG, he would not get a 2day ban in the first place.


Yeah he would have been isp banned a couple years ago.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
May 08 2011 14:38 GMT
#1440
On May 08 2011 23:28 zolii wrote:
I believe that if idra was not a part of team EG, he would not get a 2day ban in the first place.


LOL what does his team have to do with this? Have you read anything in this thread? Looked at any of the reasons? Seriously this blind fanboyism is retarded.... Idra should have been ISP banned a long time ago, his name carries a lot of weight and has helped him along. I enjoy his play so I really hope after this 90 day ban he cleans up his act a little bit I'd hate to see him perma banned but he really needs to grow up.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
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