Idra Banned for 90 Days - Page 115

On May 09 2011 10:04 Jyxz wrote:
I dont really understand the need to even ban him for 2 days, isnt there something called freedom of speech, all he did was state his opinion about another player, I dont get the big deal at all.

I think banning him is rather silly and to be frank I would much rather read a poor post by Idra then almost anyone else, since he is pretty much the best foreign player.

And regarding the 90 day ban, he was upset he got banned and vented about it on twitter... so what? The only reason it even had an effect is because he is so popular...

Honestly to me this is about the moderators saying to Idra that they can shit on him if they want to and he can't do anything about it, it is out of spite. You want Idra to kiss your ass and he isn't, so you ban him? Very poor decision in my opinion.

On May 09 2011 10:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Posting here as a long-time moderator, asshole, friend of Idra, and giver of blunt opinions. Don't take what I say as TL gospel, I'm just an old hand venting his frustration. Forgive my take on mod policy for being a little old-school.



Freedom of speech doesn't apply to TL. Idra has a long history of being a total douche as often as possible; he has probably the longest ban/warning history of any user. He knows where the boundaries are, he just refuses to adhere to them because he 'doesn't care'.



Any other user would have been perm-banned a long fucking time ago. As someone who's been friends with Idra for six or seven years now (and one of his greatest supporters on staff), the fact that even I am ready to say "enough is enough" ought to give you a clue not only to how collectively sick we are of his attitude, but also to the severity of his action against Chill.



While it's true that the massive influx of harassing PMs (and waves of shit appearing on other websites, etc) happened because of the popularity of Idra's Twitter, it's ignorant to pretend that Idra didn't know exactly what sort of effect his tweet would have. He wanted his fans to harass Chill. It was direct intent, and his drooling caste of retarded followers made good on it. This crosses a major line, one that very, very few people have ever been so arrogant & uncaring as to cross. It speaks volumes on Idra's lack of respect for TL, and I'm still trying to understand how my friend of so many years has become so vindictive, egotistical, and petty.



This is not, has never been, and will never be the basis for moderation decisions on TL. We really don't give a shit whether or not Idra likes us, but we expect every forum user to behave with a certain level of civility. Idra has consistently shown that he will shit on the forum rules. He has repeatedly told us he doesn't care about our website, not even enough to simply not post to save us these headaches. Because of the player that he is, and the benefit he adds to the community, we have been exceedingly lenient. We have let Idra get away with things no other user could, and yet every time he crosses the line so far that we must take action, he returns with a poorer attitude and stronger hubris.

No one has ever asked Idra to kiss our asses. That's not how we operate; it's neither productive nor effective. I will say that Greg has got some ass-kissing to do my way, but that's a personal matter that has nothing to do with the website. I really miss my old brood war buddy Greg, and I've had just about enough of the selfish, childish, egomaniac ESPORTS gremlin he's becoming.

To say that Idra shouldn't be blamed for how Chill's been harassed, or to tell us we ought to just buck up and tolerate his shit, is incredibly ignorant. I think we deserve a little more respect than this.

On May 09 2011 10:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Posting here as a long-time moderator, asshole, friend of Idra, and giver of blunt opinions. Don't take what I say as TL gospel, I'm just an old hand venting his frustration. Forgive my take on mod policy for being a little old-school.



Freedom of speech doesn't apply to TL. Idra has a long history of being a total douche as often as possible; he has probably the longest ban/warning history of any user. He knows where the boundaries are, he just refuses to adhere to them because he 'doesn't care'.



Any other user would have been perm-banned a long fucking time ago. As someone who's been friends with Idra for six or seven years now (and one of his greatest supporters on staff), the fact that even I am ready to say "enough is enough" ought to give you a clue not only to how collectively sick we are of his attitude, but also to the severity of his action against Chill.



While it's true that the massive influx of harassing PMs (and waves of shit appearing on other websites, etc) happened because of the popularity of Idra's Twitter, it's ignorant to pretend that Idra didn't know exactly what sort of effect his tweet would have. He wanted his fans to harass Chill. It was direct intent, and his drooling caste of retarded followers made good on it. This crosses a major line, one that very, very few people have ever been so arrogant & uncaring as to cross. It speaks volumes on Idra's lack of respect for TL, and I'm still trying to understand how my friend of so many years has become so vindictive, egotistical, and petty.



This is not, has never been, and will never be the basis for moderation decisions on TL. We really don't give a shit whether or not Idra likes us, but we expect every forum user to behave with a certain level of civility. Idra has consistently shown that he will shit on the forum rules. He has repeatedly told us he doesn't care about our website, not even enough to simply not post to save us these headaches. Because of the player that he is, and the benefit he adds to the community, we have been exceedingly lenient. We have let Idra get away with things no other user could, and yet every time he crosses the line so far that we must take action, he returns with a poorer attitude and stronger hubris.

No one has ever asked Idra to kiss our asses. That's not how we operate; it's neither productive nor effective. I will say that Greg has got some ass-kissing to do my way, but that's a personal matter that has nothing to do with the website. I really miss my old brood war buddy Greg, and I've had just about enough of the selfish, childish, egomaniac ESPORTS gremlin he's becoming.

To say that Idra shouldn't be blamed for how Chill's been harassed, or to tell us we ought to just buck up and tolerate his shit, is incredibly ignorant. I think we deserve a little more respect than this.

On May 09 2011 10:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Posting here as a long-time moderator, asshole, friend of Idra, and giver of blunt opinions. Don't take what I say as TL gospel, I'm just an old hand venting his frustration. Forgive my take on mod policy for being a little old-school.



Freedom of speech doesn't apply to TL. Idra has a long history of being a total douche as often as possible; he has probably the longest ban/warning history of any user. He knows where the boundaries are, he just refuses to adhere to them because he 'doesn't care'.



Any other user would have been perm-banned a long fucking time ago. As someone who's been friends with Idra for six or seven years now (and one of his greatest supporters on staff), the fact that even I am ready to say "enough is enough" ought to give you a clue not only to how collectively sick we are of his attitude, but also to the severity of his action against Chill.



While it's true that the massive influx of harassing PMs (and waves of shit appearing on other websites, etc) happened because of the popularity of Idra's Twitter, it's ignorant to pretend that Idra didn't know exactly what sort of effect his tweet would have. He wanted his fans to harass Chill. It was direct intent, and his drooling caste of retarded followers made good on it. This crosses a major line, one that very, very few people have ever been so arrogant & uncaring as to cross. It speaks volumes on Idra's lack of respect for TL, and I'm still trying to understand how my friend of so many years has become so vindictive, egotistical, and petty.



This is not, has never been, and will never be the basis for moderation decisions on TL. We really don't give a shit whether or not Idra likes us, but we expect every forum user to behave with a certain level of civility. Idra has consistently shown that he will shit on the forum rules. He has repeatedly told us he doesn't care about our website, not even enough to simply not post to save us these headaches. Because of the player that he is, and the benefit he adds to the community, we have been exceedingly lenient. We have let Idra get away with things no other user could, and yet every time he crosses the line so far that we must take action, he returns with a poorer attitude and stronger hubris.

No one has ever asked Idra to kiss our asses. That's not how we operate; it's neither productive nor effective. I will say that Greg has got some ass-kissing to do my way, but that's a personal matter that has nothing to do with the website. I really miss my old brood war buddy Greg, and I've had just about enough of the selfish, childish, egomaniac ESPORTS gremlin he's becoming.

To say that Idra shouldn't be blamed for how Chill's been harassed, or to tell us we ought to just buck up and tolerate his shit, is incredibly ignorant. I think we deserve a little more respect than this.

On May 09 2011 05:55 cujo2k wrote:

Yea well good luck getting Hot_Bid banned sir Will be updated soon I'd think.

On May 09 2011 10:08 dsperg wrote:
When someone publicly streams their games, they open themselves up to this kind of "cheating".

If you don't like it, don't stream.

Case closed.

On May 09 2011 11:16 dan1mal wrote:
idra fightiiiing, honestly pretty bm to ban him imo... If I put the same thing on my twitter i wudnt get a 90 day ban either

On May 09 2011 11:16 dan1mal wrote:
idra fightiiiing, honestly pretty bm to ban him imo... If I put the same thing on my twitter i wudnt get a 90 day ban either

On May 09 2011 11:16 dan1mal wrote:
idra fightiiiing, honestly pretty bm to ban him imo... If I put the same thing on my twitter i wudnt get a 90 day ban either

On May 09 2011 11:07 Sandster wrote:
Greg is such a sad human being. He was a great BW player who had questionable manner compared to many of the other top-level foreigners (whitera, draco, sen, mondragon, etc). His transformation over the last couple of years is almost sickening...who are his genuine friends? I don't know his personal life, but it appears that all he has is sc2 at this point, and I'm guessing he's going to have a harder and harder time finding practice partners as he further alienates the community.