TL.net Ten Commandments - Page 6

On September 14 2004 22:41 Keanu_Reaver wrote:
this is, of course, me stretching the boundaries of your view on what this sites free speech should be. if what i said is worthy of me being banned, then by all means ban.

im not saying this site will crash and burn because of this, because it wont, so long as you guys maintain it and bw is popular, this site will remain intact. im simply saying, that if what i said is worthy of being banned, then this isn't a community i would want to associate myself with in the first place.

On September 14 2004 22:39 Keanu_Reaver wrote:


was this directed at me?

if so - most of what you said is incorrect. absolute free speech exists in any non-hierarchal group (sorry, but being ridiculed is not a hindrance on your free speech, nor is cliquish behavior no matter how wrong it may be) so to assume a hierarchy in this site is very arrogant thing to do, and it turns this from a non-hierarchal community to discuss whatever into, well, what you intended, a rigid governmental type institution. i've been to plenty of forums, and in my experience, when admins and site owners suddenly decide they have a government and immediately begin imposing rules beyond the obvious (spamming and posing?) the goers of the site become disgustingly fake and monotonous. this thread itself is a perfect example, i shudder to think how soggy your ass must be with how many times it's been kissed. i have no idea what your supposed "analysis" is, or if it even exists, but once again, when rules are lenient beyond the obvious the site will become more honest and motley...this is, of course, my experience in practically every group setting i've ever been associated with (and with how many places i've moved to, believe me, its a lot).

im certain the bw.com forums scare you, as they should, but had spam, posing, and a very VERY lenient sense of trolling get banned (as well as not having psycho's for admins) that site would have been fine. quality over quantity? don't make me laugh, that statement is to ridiculous i wont even bother. i also find it funny you said this would make you unpopular, again that is absolutely ridiculous, it will have the reverse effect, and you're too smart of a person (or you put on airs of such) to not already know that. and like i said, them being 'ten commandments' itself is very distasteful.

if not - read the if so anyway, cause yeah, most of what you said is incorrect.

On September 14 2004 23:23 Klogon wrote:


Seriously, why the hell do you care at all? It seems you are just ranting over nothing because posting these rules will not change how I or any other mod will moderate the forums. Do you seriously want OVizioFrio's actively posting here? Do you want Iszard here? Do you want various other really mentally unstable people hanging around be being welcome here? Well, in case you said yes to the following, then I suggest you find a new forum because that isn't going to happen here period. We run the site and forums the way we want it to, and we want it to be a place that we like. We don't care if you feel the forums are "fake" or that our asses are caked with the siliva of other forumers, as long as it is still the way we want it. And you say you shudder to think how much asskissing there has been? What... a bit of recognition of the beautiful English mensrea wrote and approval of the rules from LONG TIME forumers isn't to be expected? Seriously, do you seriously want whining, moaning, spamming, flaming, and trolling in place of these, just because YOU BELIEVE they are "fake"?

And the groups you've been around in real life is totally different and irrelevent when you are talking about an online setting. You should know by know that a lot of people act differently online, and they tend to feel invincible sitting behind their computers while mouthing off at other people. Having so few rules will only encourage this. Where's my evidence? Check out the majority of the forums out there with very few rules and very little moderation and a huge memberbase. Not exactly the best place to try to be "honest, personal, and not fake" is it? Can you imagine how hard it will be to be yourself and not be totally annoyed everytime you share your honest and personal feelings when you are surrounded by an army of idiots?

And what you are saying is stretching the boundries of free speech? No, it really isn't because you can argue all you want about the rules written, but like I said earlier, we aren't chaging how we will actually moderate the site. I'll just assume you know how we do it, so why didn't you bitterly complain about it earlier? Is it because of the statement of "we give you your rights?"

The thing comes down to this: if you really detest our "new" rules, hate how everything is moderated, despise the fact that everybody is "fake", and totally can't stand the fact you don't have total freedom of speech here, then you can leave. I'll leave the door open to you, because obviously this isn't the community you'd want to be associated with. But if my point came across clear and you do decide to stay, you're also welcome: just don't make something out of nothing and be totally annoying about it.

On September 14 2004 04:02 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
russians can't speak english anyways so whats the point

On September 14 2004 20:33 mensrea wrote:



Since you never speak the truth, you have nothing to worry about.

i will rant because i believe its a right i've been born with (not given to me by whatever the superior authorities are), if i dont have this right, ban me, as i've said.

On September 14 2004 22:56 SkY wrote:


That's a good point, and alot of people probably censor what they really feel on topics because they're afraid they might get banned (well I do). Can't say everyone does cause that's a opinion i just can't back up.