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Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
July 20 2010 18:11 GMT
#121
Definitely a hit to the community. Completely justified for their actions. Hopefully this won't happen again. Seeing this just shows what a strong community we have and that this place won't tolerate any of this bs. Thanks teamliquid.
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
July 20 2010 18:11 GMT
#122
On July 21 2010 03:04 Louder wrote:
Fortunately we have good people in the community who are decent human beings


Lots of them, fortunately.
What are you tinkering about?
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
July 20 2010 18:18 GMT
#123
Ero-Sennin
How is it that every post from you in this thread goes something like this:
"Hey guys I'm not like taking sides here but here's what they told me."
"I also want to know both sides of the story but I'm just gonna post and agree with what I hear from them!"
"I understand why they left him, but I dont think they should have."

Just disregarding everything else that we've basically gotten confirmed (them stealing booze and downloading shit to another guys computer without permission) and just go with the hard facts:
They left a guy....400 miles....from home. I cannot belive you are trying to defend them in any way, shape or form. If they were my "friends" I'd break all bonds that ever tied us together.
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11595 Posts
July 20 2010 18:29 GMT
#124
On July 21 2010 02:05 Ero-Sennin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 12:29 Housemd wrote:
http://img843.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=dscn0219d.jpg

These are the 18 pictures they took if the link works.

Edited the link.


Picture 18 of 18... are you sure Lou and Semih were eating? Didn't look like it T_T lol

I wouldn't pay 20 bucks if I didn't eat. Sorry, no offense, but I wouldn't.


It was Mack and Buckets who ate and didn't pay. They sat right across from me and being a buffet, they both ate about a plate and left to sit with Semih/Loudog. Then they all left at once and didn't pay, me being a slow eater, was one of the las to leave, and one of the last to pay with 2 people behind me (sorry i don't remember who you were).
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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 18:34:01
July 20 2010 18:32 GMT
#125
I feel for you guys.
I've been stuck with the big bill
when others dined/dashed.

Leaving someone though...
That's some fucked up shit right there.
Plus the random theft.

Sorry to hear this!
Good to see his ass got banned.
Daikyo, that's bad luck.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
July 20 2010 18:43 GMT
#126
On July 21 2010 02:06 JiYan wrote:
nnilf majors in emergency management and criminal justice at University of Akron


criminal justice how ironic
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
July 20 2010 18:50 GMT
#127
This thread should be a sticky. Leaving guy 400 miles from home is major douchebaggery. Tell him to sit in the back seat and just stfu if you don't like him that much.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
trulla
Profile Joined February 2010
Chile303 Posts
July 20 2010 18:51 GMT
#128
i'm a member of another community and when this kind of shit happens we send messages to people related with them (family/gf/friends) through facebook telling them what happened. It really works and I encourage you to do it if you are able to contact someone close to these morons.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 18:52:26
July 20 2010 18:52 GMT
#129
On July 21 2010 03:51 trulla wrote:
i'm a member of another community and when this kind of shit happens we send messages to people related with them (family/gf/friends) through facebook telling them what happened. It really works and I encourage you to do it if you are able to contact someone close to these morons.

I encourage you not to do this. The way to deal with this isn't to affect their personal lives, but rather to cut them off from this community cleanly.
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 19:08:04
July 20 2010 18:56 GMT
#130
That's so incredibly lame it's beyond words. Those guys deserve the alienation. Way to act like six year olds.

brb starting a StorrZerg's Dad fan club in TL Community.
Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 21:10:05
July 20 2010 20:23 GMT
#131
Ero-Sennin
How is it that every post from you in this thread goes something like this:
"Hey guys I'm not like taking sides here but here's what they told me."


You're right. No, let's just look at one side. And hey, if your mom gets hit by a car (doesn't die, remembers the accident very well), let's just hear what the driver has to say. "Nah man, it was her fault." And then let's ban your mother forever. Yes... perfect justice. I'm not defending them. I'm defending that perhaps maybe they should get a say in their defense. That doesn't mean you have to like them, but to stick your head in the sand and go with everyone else instead of wanting to know both sides is retarded.

"I also want to know both sides of the story but I'm just gonna post and agree with what I hear from them!"


So are you naturally stupid or did you have to take classes to reach this sort of level? At what point did I say that I agreed with their actions? If it came across as such, I apologize, but I'm fairly certain this is not the case. Ever think the reason why I post what I hear from them is because everyone else is hearing Storr/Deja etc...? And mind you, I've heard from Deja and Storr, and again, not sticking up for Lou/Semih/Nnilf's actions. However, every story has more than one point of view. And listening to only one point of view is, as I have said before, retarded.

"I understand why they left him, but I dont think they should have."


If you're going to put words in my mouth, I'll put words in yours. "Oh, my God, my crotch, you've punched me in the crotch."

Cool beans. Anywho, again, to clear the air. No, I don't support leaving Deja behind, and as I said before, it would have to take an extreme amount of assholeishness to ever make me leave someone behind.

Here is what I said:
Computer is pretty gay - that's just not cool

Leaving a guy stranded isn't cool, unless he was being a huge jackass for the few days they were there. But I mean, I can't imagine it getting to that kind of level, or perhaps they just had a lower tolerance. Also, not pitching in for gas money was kind of lame. Worthy of getting left behind? No. (See that right there? Keyword = NO. Perhaps I need to draw in crayon for you to interpret the exact meaning of the word NO. I'd make further jokes about the word "NO" being used and your existence on this planet, but I believe I've made my point clear.)

Making Storr's family pay is pretty low, agreed.


Oh, and by the by, don't talk about how you think you know me from these few posts and how you think I'm sticking up from them bailing out on a LAN (that they payed 16 dollars that was asked of them). You see, here is where communication comes in to play.

Gather around children and I will explain this to you. When you have an event like this, gather the money beforehand or tell them to F off. Simple as that. They played the event, and skipped out on paying because they didn't go as far as they'd like, or just came to have a good time and thought, "Hey, what's a few bucks here and there?" Of course when they found out the earnings were going to be deducted from the winner, plus a few people then asked for 16 bucks, they relented. Now, key point being, when you say, "Alright, hey, just, no no, listen. Eight bucks from both of you, yeah, 16 total, that'll be fine."

That makes it seem like it wasn't a huge deal to begin with. But no, afterward you go out and have dinner. 20 bucks a person. Was this specifically told to each individual? Because you can't say, "Oh, well they knew it was 20 bucks." Because maybe they didn't. It's their first time doing that sort of thing (Lou/Buckets etc...). If I'm going to go out to dinner afterward, this is what I say, "Alright, listen, we're going out to eat after the LAN. It's 20 bucks per person. Let me know straight up if you're not planning on eating."

Communication, again, is KEY.

Is it cool they took a bottle of alcohol from Storr's house? No. Not the end of the world, but you don't take shit from a place that was kind enough to let you stay for free, even if it wasn't the most pleasant stay.

Is it cool they threw 2 DVDs out on the lawn? Nah, just because you're from the midwest, doesn't mean you have to bring that to the East Coast.

Is it cool they left Deja, even if he may or may not have been the best company while at Storr's house? Definitely not, and I'm not saying to unban them by any means. The WCG ban seems a bit far, and hopefully that won't go through, but if it does, another lesson learned.

To summarize, no I'm not sticking up for their actions. I may be sticking up for getting their story told, whether I agree with it or not is irrelevant.

Edited: God damn I love me.

Edited again: So what I gather was, you had to pay 20 bucks to participate in the Tourney. Mack said beforehand he wasn't going to, and there was no big uproar over that. Semih paid to participate, and I don't know if Loudog and Buckets did, although I can't see them playing for free? Because if you don't pay beforehand, why would you be let into the tournament? So I assume they paid that - otherwise, you don't blame them, you blame the organizer.

Afterward you clock out and pay for how much you were on the computer. Did they blow that off on purpose? Yeah. Not the end of the world, but still lame.

The dinner, everything else, just a culmination of things that led to the final product.
Luck makes talent look like genius.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 20:52:40
July 20 2010 20:51 GMT
#132
On July 21 2010 05:23 Ero-Sennin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Ero-Sennin
How is it that every post from you in this thread goes something like this:
"Hey guys I'm not like taking sides here but here's what they told me."


You're right. No, let's just look at one side. And hey, if your mom gets hit by a car (doesn't die, remembers the accident very well), let's just hear what the driver has to say. "Nah man, it was her fault." And then let's ban your mother forever. Yes... perfect justice. I'm not defending them. I'm defending that perhaps maybe they should get a say in their defense. That doesn't mean you have to like them, but to stick your head in the sand and go with everyone else instead of wanting to know both sides is retarded.

Show nested quote +
"I also want to know both sides of the story but I'm just gonna post and agree with what I hear from them!"


So are you naturally stupid or did you have to take classes to reach this sort of level? At what point did I say that I agreed with their actions? If it came across as such, I apologize, but I'm fairly certain this is not the case. Ever think the reason why I post what I hear from them is because everyone else is hearing Storr/Deja etc...? And mind you, I've heard from Deja and Storr, and again, not sticking up for Lou/Semih/Nnilf's actions. However, every story has more than one point of view. And listening to only one point of view is, as I have said before, retarded.

Show nested quote +
"I understand why they left him, but I dont think they should have."


If you're going to put words in my mouth, I'll put words in yours. "Oh, my God, my crotch, you've punched me in the crotch."

Cool beans. Anywho, again, to clear the air. No, I don't support leaving Deja behind, and as I said before, it would have to take an extreme amount of assholeishness to ever make me leave someone behind.

Here is what I said:
Show nested quote +
Computer is pretty gay - that's just not cool

Leaving a guy stranded isn't cool, unless he was being a huge jackass for the few days they were there. But I mean, I can't imagine it getting to that kind of level, or perhaps they just had a lower tolerance. Also, not pitching in for gas money was kind of lame. Worthy of getting left behind? No. (See that right there? Keyword = NO. Perhaps I need to draw in crayon for you to interpret the exact meaning of the word NO. I'd make further jokes about the word "NO" being used and your existence on this planet, but I believe I've made my point clear.)

Making Storr's family pay is pretty low, agreed.


Oh, and by the by, don't talk about how you think you know me from these few posts and how you think I'm sticking up from them bailing out on a LAN (that they payed 16 dollars that was asked of them). You see, here is where communication comes in to play.

Gather around children and I will explain this to you. When you have an event like this, gather the money beforehand or tell them to F off. Simple as that. They played the event, and skipped out on paying because they didn't go as far as they'd like, or just came to have a good time and thought, "Hey, what's a few bucks here and there?" Of course when they found out the earnings were going to be deducted from the winner, plus a few people then asked for 16 bucks, they relented. Now, key point being, when you say, "Alright, hey, just, no no, listen. Eight bucks from both of you, yeah, 16 total, that'll be fine."

That makes it seem like it wasn't a huge deal to begin with. But no, afterward you go out and have dinner. 20 bucks a person. Was this specifically told to each individual? Because you can't say, "Oh, well they knew it was 20 bucks." Because maybe they didn't. It's their first time doing that sort of of thing (Lou/Buckets etc...). If I'm going to go out to dinner afterward, this is what I say, "Alright, listen, we're going out to eat after the LAN. It's 20 bucks per person. Let me know straight up if you're not planning on eating."

Communication, again, is KEY.

Is it cool they took a bottle of alcohol from Storr's house? No. Not the end of the world, but you don't take shit from a place that was kind enough to let you stay for free, even if it wasn't the most pleasant stay.

Is it cool they threw 2 DVDs out on the lawn? Nah, just because you're from the midwest, doesn't mean you have to bring that to the East Coast.

Is it cool they left Deja, even if he may or may not have been the best company while at Storr's house? Definitely not, and I'm not saying to unban them by any means. The WCG ban seems a bit far, and hopefully that won't go through, but if it does, another lesson learned.

To summarize, no I'm not sticking up for their actions. I may be sticking up for getting their story told, whether I agree with it or not is irrelevant.



Wow..no one cares.
they are clearly morons and your big wall of wasted text will not prove otherwise.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
July 20 2010 20:54 GMT
#133
Wow these guys are fucking idiots. I always knew semih was a fucking tool but i didnt expect this act of retardism. Its laughable how dumb this kid is.
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sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 20:56:28
July 20 2010 20:56 GMT
#134
ero just wants attention
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Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
July 20 2010 21:00 GMT
#135
On July 21 2010 05:51 Coagulation wrote:
Wow..no one cares.
they are clearly morons and your big wall of wasted text will not prove otherwise.


Not to derail this any further, but do you know how stupid you look when you say that? Are you aware of it? Because I can point it out to you if you'd like.

I didn't say they were not morons, nor did I try to prove they're not morons.

Swing and a miss, eh, kiddo?

Perhaps you should read it again. If you can't read, find your parent and they'll read it for you at your bedtime. Unless they hate you - which probably isn't too far off. Again, if you're going to just post empty non-needed posts, do it in some other thread.


AGAIN, to SUMMARIZE, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THEIR ACTIONS, and find it to be pretty stupid. However, listening to only one side is more than just stupid.

User was warned for this post
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 21:00:56
July 20 2010 21:00 GMT
#136
Can someone just ban Ero_Sennin? He is the same as Semih, and you can see from his above post he will eventually be banned because he cannot post with out coming off as a condescending douchebag. If you treat the community like shit then you deserve what you get, especially being banned from WCG, I very much hope that does go through.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
July 20 2010 21:13 GMT
#137
Ero-Sennin
Wow if I would've quoted you on all that it would have been so annoying to read, I'm just gonna go trough it and pick out my favorite parts:

First paragraph:
If you read trough the op, they have been given the chanse to defend themselfes and I feel its fairly objectivly written, wouldn't you agree? If not please tell me where you feel the OP lacks in objectivity, or I'd say you do think its not objective enough since you're still so keen on posting "their side of the story". Also in this case wouldnt you agree that it's the woman getting hit that represents storr/deja in this case? You know, the victims of a couple of morons.

2nd paragraph
Yeah just read the first one again (you're repeating youself). And I feel like I am an fairly intellectual individual, and you do realize that the second you get mad and start insulting people you've lost the argument right? What's gonna come in your next post? Comparing me to Hitler? Because that's a classic!

3rd paragraph
Again with the anger! Also this is what people do when someones an asshole: you talk to them, say what you feel. You do NOT leave them behind 400 miles from home. No matter what they've done (oh murder exluded).

4th paragraph
You're such an angry man! There is no reason do insult someone in a civil discussion. And yes you said no, but my point is you're saying "Hey this and that could've happen, I mean sure it's not reason to leave someone behind, but it could've happend" It's like you're writing 4 lines of text just to disprove them with one word. That is quite often used when someone is of a diffrent opinion but doesnt want to show it!

last piece of text
Where did I meantion anything about me knowing you?

More angry text, wow you're putting yourself down. Sit down, have a cup of tea, chill out and then use your vocabulary instead of trying to put me down. So what you're basically also trying to get across here is that its the tournament admins fault that someone skipped the payment?

More text defending them. So you're claiming they thought dinner was FREE? Come an man, you can't have been serious while writing that. I don't go out to dinner with my friends and just assume its free. I ask. If we go to a buffé (unless its written on signs outside) I ask either them or the staff. Hey, how much is this? Or should I just sit down, eat and afterwards run off and blame my friends for not telling me?

About the alcohol: nothing is ever the end of the world but imagine the implications. What about next time something like this is run? Storr might go "no, no people in my house. last time some guys stole shit" and it wont be possible for people from out of state to go!

I have no comments on the three last parts of text because I honestly belive you dont see why people think like me when they read what you've posted
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Perdition
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
American Samoa77 Posts
July 20 2010 21:28 GMT
#138
Those actions are inexcusable. Thank you for making us aware, Chill.
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 20 2010 21:29 GMT
#139
We already heard "their side" in the vent convo with Loudog. He tried to dodge responsibility and answering questions as hard as he could.

It seems the people who don't want their side heard in a coherent manner, are the offenders in the first place which is pretty ironic.

Also, if you weren't at the LAN/dinner, please stop derailing this shit further to get your post count up.
sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
July 20 2010 22:04 GMT
#140
Hey sadistx since i was like at the lan can i derail this to get my post count up? )))))
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